1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: This time for the week that was the last week 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: that was for twenty twenty two, and joining me in 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: the studio as the colp's Murray Claire Boothby. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning Katie, and to your listeners. 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: We have got independent keys here Puric who's jingling over there, 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: jingling all the way. Don't worry, we will post a 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: photo of her magnificent hat that she's wearing today. Everybody's 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: in a bit of Christmas cheer. Good morning to you, 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: keez here, Morning Katie, Morning bush people. And we've also 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: got Paul Kirby who is donning a Santa hat today 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: for the ALP. Good morning to you, curbs. 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: Good morning, yeah, good morning everyone. Very Christmas. He feel 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: around the place this morning. 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, there really is. And Keyzy has even brought in 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: a special Christmas button. 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 4: Christmas, oh God. 17 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: And I think every time every time he does something new, 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: which is which is lots of fun. Now we will 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: get into into sort of the biggest stories of the 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: year a little bit later this hour, but I am 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: keen to cover off still on the issues of the week, 22 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: because unfortunately things haven't quiet and down there is still 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: a lot happening around the place, and I'll kick off 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: this morning with the fact that there were indeed a 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: number of car thefts earlier in the week. We know 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: that Strikeforce Trident and the Dog Operations Unit they worked 27 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: tirelessly to secure the arrest of fifteen people involved in 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: separate property offenses. So essentially we're in a situation where 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: Patrol Dog Drax and daily they trailed through heavy vegetation 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: to track six offenders who allegedly stole a Toyota high 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Lux in Yarrawanga that was one of the incidents. 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 5: And then went speeding with it to town. 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there was another situation where there were 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: a number of vehicles stolen five I think it was 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: in total though nine cars stolen. Eventually the Northern Territory 36 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Police being able to apprehend fifteen people, one hundred and 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: sixty charges laid. 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: And I did hear the lady who owned that silveral 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 5: black Toyda land Cruise that got stolen and then stolen 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 5: again from mechanic and the scumb punks put their photo 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 5: on Facebook at the front of the car and you 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 5: could see from the car from a little bit of 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: the number plate. I mean, it's just outrageous. Half of 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: them were on bail and then half of them got 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 5: bail again. 46 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: You know. 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: So they are targeting the older cars obviously because it 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 5: hasn't got as many electronics or you know, fancy stuff 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 5: like they wouldn't be able to do it to Subaru's. 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 5: But these older cars, they're not hot worrying them. They 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 5: just got the ability. Because if you've got I don't know, PEPs, 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 5: I shouldn't say that. 53 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Well, maybe don't tell us how to tell us about 54 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: the car keasy. 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: But the older cars are their targets. So people who 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: have older cars just be vigilant. 57 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: You know. 58 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: It's no good saying, oh, disconnect the battery, which the 59 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 5: police officer did, and I think that's fine. We'd sadly 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 5: just have to be more vigilant where we leave our keys, 61 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 5: where we put our keys, where we park our cars, 62 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: because they're being stolen from workshops. Well this is it's 63 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 5: not the mechanics job to bloody keep an eye on 64 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 5: his car. I mean it is, but like he can't 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 5: have or she can't have their eyes there everywhere. So 66 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 5: they knew that car went to that workshop, and that's 67 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 5: just so wrong. 68 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: It is, it's wrong on so many levels and I guess, 69 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, the thing is, we've spoken so much about 70 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: crime throughout this year, but even throughout the week, I 71 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: know of another person that I know had their car 72 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: stolen in Bayview. I know that there ended up being 73 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: a crime or a meeting, I think in Bayview overnight, 74 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: because there is obviously concerns that are being raised from 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: the community because you've literally got people who've got vision 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: then of young will they look like kids inside their 77 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: homes going through their stuff and then stealing their cars. 78 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: The thing that I've found really quite disturbing on a 79 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: number of instances as well is that they seem to 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: be armed with knives in some situations, which is bloody frightening. 81 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I went to the Bayview crime meeting that 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: they held last night and it was a really good turnout, 83 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: considering the weather was pretty wet. And you know, those 84 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: people who live in Bayview, I don't think that they 85 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: usually go through this. You know, they are now experiencing 86 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: the crime crisis just like the rest of the territory, 87 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: and especially about their cars. And you're right, kids, you're like, 88 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: you know to they were talking with each other about 89 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: being really vigilant, but they were just really frustrated at 90 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: the fact that they're even having to have this meeting, 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: and this is the eighth meeting that has been held 92 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: across the territory in only five months. And it is 93 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: sad that there was no one from labor that could 94 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: come that we're from the government, because I think that 95 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: it would have been great to be able to hear 96 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: those stories so that they realized that what they're doing 97 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: is just not working. And you know, we know that 98 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: territorians believe that they're not being heard, that they are 99 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: out of touch, and that things need to change. 100 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: I think that the acknowledgment from our government that there's 101 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: a host of work that continues to need to be done, 102 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: that to say that we're not listening is just not 103 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: the truth. Like to you look at Alice Springs, you 104 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: look at right across the territory, there is absolutely a 105 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: host of work being done. 106 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: There still needs to be more done. 107 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: There's absolute acknowledgment that some of these rates and people 108 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: that are in town at the moment, they just don't have. 109 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: Regard for the law. That's that's the really troubling. 110 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: Part is what is the is a disincentive for people 111 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: if they don't fear the police, if they don't fear 112 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: getting caught, if they don't fear going to jail. So 113 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: we'll absolutely continue to do everything that we can. You saw, 114 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: you know, forty odd coppers going to Alice Springs recently 115 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: and still you know a number of events down there, 116 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: So it's certainly something we're aware of, Certainly something will 117 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: continue to work on. But it's just a real change 118 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: and if you go into state, if you look at 119 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: news from Indo State, it's not just here. It's just 120 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: a change in society very recent Townsville. 121 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: I do acknowledge that there's definitely in other parts of 122 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: Australia when it comes to youth crime and when it 123 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: comes to the issues that are being experienced around the place. 124 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: But I think when it comes to the level of 125 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: antisocial behavior as well that we're experiencing here and public 126 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: drunkenness and then the on flow of that public drunkenness, 127 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that you see it when you walk 128 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: around Cans in the same way. I grew up in 129 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: Townsville and Cans and I know that things have changed 130 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: in recent years, but there isn't that same level of 131 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: absolute anti social behavior around the place. 132 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 2: Are actually genuinely fearing for their lives from this antisocial behavior. 133 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean years and years ago, I remember going to 134 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 2: Casarina Square and feeling like, oh, you know, someone's asked 135 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: me for something, I've said no and then they walk away. 136 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: Now when you say no, they beat you up like 137 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: they absolutely aw your car, steal it anyway exactly, and 138 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: they don't care who it is. It could be a child, 139 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: it could be a senior person. It's just not a caman. 140 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: Businesses are getting smashed up at the cost of crime. 141 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: So are our local councils, our car owners and some 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: of the taxpayers. I mean, when's it going to stop? 143 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: We can you just take you to as well. On Monday, 144 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: we did have a situation where the police were calling 145 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: for witnesses following an alleged indecent assault that had occurred 146 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: in Perap So that happened just after five o'clock in 147 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: the morning and a woman was walking along the Stewart 148 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: Highway when she was approached by an unknown man. The 149 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: woman briefly engaged with the man before continuing to walk 150 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: towards the parap Road, where the man then grabbed the 151 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: woman from behind. Now struggles then occurred. Before the pair 152 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: fell to the ground, the man indecently assaulted the woman. Luckily, 153 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: nearby witnesses intervened and the offender fled towards Parat Road. 154 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: As far as I understand that the police are still 155 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: searching for that person. One three, one, triple four is 156 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: the number if you've got any information. But I think 157 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: you know we've got to. We do have a situation 158 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: at the moment in the territory where there's no doubt 159 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: we've got the element of youth crime. 160 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 5: There's two parts to a k there's I think anyway, 161 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: probably many parts, but there's two clear major parts. There's 162 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: the car theft by young people and using it for 163 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 5: their own vicarious entertainment and recklessness and damage and theft, 164 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: et cetera. And we know that there's a lot of 165 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: these young, youngish and not so youngest people are coming 166 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 5: in from what I to do these kind of crimes 167 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: and then taking the vehicles out there. Then you've got 168 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: the component of what you're saying is the social upheaval, 169 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 5: the drunken behavior in the city that perhaps you know, bludging. 170 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Of people and then attacking them. 171 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: So they're all crimes, but this car business and this 172 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: stealing and ramming and doing reckless things on the road 173 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 5: is one part, and then it's the other part, and 174 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: then there's subsets. But I think there's a fundament, there's 175 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 5: a fundamental thing in common, and that is lawlessness. And 176 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 5: they have no fear, as you said, Paul, no fear 177 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 5: of the law or police officers, and they just keep 178 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: going through a turnstile because of the bail laws. Which 179 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: I agree with the opposition on is the bail laws 180 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 5: need to be changed. 181 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: You're evolving door of bolving door, that's right, and there's 182 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: no clear there's no clear and immediate consequences, and that's 183 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: what's needed to happen, because, like you said, any consequence 184 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: of any crime, even a first time offender, if there's 185 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: a clear consequence, even if it is something like painting 186 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: some graffitio or something, or cleaning up some rubbish, whatever 187 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: it is, work on something. At the moment, there is 188 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: literally nothing that happens. 189 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: You've had Chancy Pate in here very recently talking about 190 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: some of the changes that are being made, some of 191 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: the programs that are continuing to be worked on. What 192 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: we do know is if you lock these young kids 193 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: up with hardened criminals right from the get go. It 194 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: has a really negative effect on their entire life. So 195 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: it is a tough problem. It's stuff that will continue 196 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: to work through. 197 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even mentioned looking up. I said a consequence 198 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: being something of a description. 199 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Though from U Curbs because obviously you the CBD is 200 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: part of your electorate. Even throughout the week, we saw 201 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: a situation where at John John's, you know, just really 202 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: unnecessary behavior where you know, somebody has jumped across their 203 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: little fence that they've got there. They've got beautiful Christmas 204 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: decorations up. These kids are then stabbing. 205 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: The Christmas and then hiding them back in their path, and. 206 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: You just go, like, to me, that is an absolute 207 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: demonstration of unnecessary behavior, unnecessary, unwarranted behavior, but then an 208 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: absolute lack of care that they're going to get in trouble. 209 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: And we'll get caught. 210 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: Obviously a really poignant picture into what must be going 211 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: on at home. If they've got absolutely no respect for 212 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: anybody else's belongings, then that starts at home. And there's 213 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: a mountain of work that you have to do to 214 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: try and turn those sort of behaviors around. But yeah, 215 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: people know, you know, from from twenty sixteen, we're putting 216 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: on extra coppers with extra security around the city, with 217 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: extra lighting and different patrols, reinvesting in Laroche and Nation 218 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: and patrols like that. 219 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 4: Like the city did get better for for a. 220 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: Long long time, and now we know there's a lot 221 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: of people that are in town that are living rough 222 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: at the moment, and that does create some. 223 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: Issues as well. It is cycling cyclic. 224 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: Like there is a large range of stuff going on 225 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: at the moment. It's just stuff that will continue. 226 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: To do the hard yard. 227 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: Joleng just don't feel they don't feel the hope though 228 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: that I mean the talk that we hear from the 229 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: government is only one thing. We don't see any action 230 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: and that's not the case. 231 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: Marine. 232 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: You know that there's more coppers on the beat now 233 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: than there ever has been, the more we've invested like 234 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: a third more into the police budget. 235 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 4: So to say that there is nothing being done is. 236 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: Now absolutely generously sketching them. 237 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: Police are usually they're they're preventative, of course, and that's 238 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 5: where we need them on the beat, preventatives. So people 239 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 5: got ship cops here but not do this. But most 240 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: of the time the police are picking up after the crime. 241 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: Well, and we go back to the bail laws. You know, 242 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: if they were there, then maybe this wouldn't be I 243 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: think that. 244 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: We've got to enter twenty twenty three. Like honestly, I 245 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: know the government have said that this is a priority, 246 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: but I think entering twenty twenty three, we've got to 247 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: acknowledge that the issues that we've got around crime at 248 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: the moment are holding us back, and they are holding 249 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: us back. When you've got the licen of Fitch, that's 250 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: exactly right. When you've been the life of Sentinel who've 251 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: purchased Casuarina Square saying that they are spending an enormous 252 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: amount of money they're holding next week, they've got, you know, 253 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: the opportunity for staff that work at the shopping center 254 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: to be able to gather at a gathering point to 255 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: get to their cars supervised so that they feel safe. 256 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: That's an issue, absolutely. 257 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: But let's keep in mind as well, Sentinel are the 258 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: group that have invested almost half a billion dollars very 259 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: recently into the Northern Territory. So understand what you're saying 260 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: that it is distressing and will. 261 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely contend it to work. 262 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Said, but they are engasing up to half a billion dollars, 263 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: so to say that it's stopping the territory from moving ahead, 264 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: we will continue to do that hard work and there's 265 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: a mountain of work that's going into that Casuarina area. 266 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: I didn't say it's stopping us. I said it's holding 267 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: us back. And I do maintain that I reckon it's 268 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: holding us back because I do think that once you 269 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: get here and you go, oh goodness, met like Sentinel 270 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: have done, and they're saying this is the worst antisocial 271 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: and crime that we've got across any of the shopping 272 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: centers that we've got around the nation, that's not something 273 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: for us to be proud of. 274 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: And when casuin a Square is spending two and a 275 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: half million dollar dollars of a year on security to 276 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: try and alleviate these young offenders, which just keeps escalating. 277 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: The labour's answer to that was to raise the age 278 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: of criminal responsibility because the youth offenders don't know what 279 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: they're doing, and yet these same people like they hide. 280 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Machetes, they do know what they're doing. 281 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: They do know they're hiding machetes and then they're using 282 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: that to attack people my goodness. 283 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 5: I get it that they're you know, people humans between 284 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 5: you know, sort of I don't know, you know, one 285 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 5: to five, you know, yeah, not much consequences. But you 286 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 5: can't tell me a kid that's eleven or twelve. Okay, 287 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 5: they might be a faz d kid. They might have 288 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: poor education or no education, might have health issues. I 289 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: get all that, but you can't tell me in that 290 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 5: little pea brain they have some understanding of stealing a 291 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: car and holding a life at a service station is 292 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 5: not right. 293 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I do think I certainly acknowledge the points that you know, 294 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: that Kirby was making earlier, that you have been talking about, absolutely, 295 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: but also that we are talking about, you know, a 296 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: situation where, like you'd said, Kurbs, you know, if there 297 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: are children who are slashing those Christmas decorations, what's going 298 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: on at home and why are they you know, lashing 299 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: out in that way and behaving in that way. But 300 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: we've also got laws, and we've also got different rules 301 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: that everybody need to needs to follow as a society. 302 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: And at the moment it does feel like there's that 303 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: breaking down of you know, of those rules in a. 304 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: Society over time with this labor government, have been watered 305 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: down and if they're not focusing on the problem at 306 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: home to try and resolve it, and our situation is 307 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: now worse because we genuinely have people who are fearing 308 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: for their lives and they are genuinely packing up and leaving. 309 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: If that was true, why are jails overcrowded? 310 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Because people are. 311 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 3: Breaking the law and being sent and because so you 312 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: acknowledge that people are getting pulled up, that people that 313 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: do the wrong thing are being found. The talk about 314 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: recently of fifteen people and how long the police will 315 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: track these people down and there will be consequences for that, But. 316 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm keen to know then. So from the government's perspective, 317 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: if you guys feel as though, all right, the jails 318 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: are full, and they are full, there is no doubt 319 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: about that the police are doing their jobs and capturing 320 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: people that are breaking the laws, and that we've got 321 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: to change our approach. What Look, what is the answer 322 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: right now then to curb the issues that we're seeing 323 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: because our crime stats are on the rise. Unfortunately they're 324 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: not getting better based on those year on year stats. 325 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: From what we get from we'll talk about the consequences 326 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: being clear and immediate from the outset, even for first 327 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: time offenders, and that's not locking them up, that is 328 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: them going into work programs. I mean, this government promised 329 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: before the last election that they were going to do that. 330 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: They have not done that. The programs they have are limited, 331 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: they are voluntary. Kids don't have to go through that 332 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: they don't want to and that's just not okay. 333 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: There absolutely are programs and will continue to work on 334 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: making sure that there are more programs to put kids 335 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: into because yes, we can't lock them up with hard 336 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: and criminals. 337 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: They do need to understand and do need. 338 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: To learn nail, but do you reckon That's the key 339 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: then from next year as well, I mean, is that 340 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: the focus from the government that there does need to 341 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: be an expansion of those programs and that there does 342 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: really need to be a focus on, you know, having 343 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: an impact here. 344 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: What I can guarantee is every week that Cabinet meets, 345 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: it's a discussion that we have about what are we 346 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: doing about how we looking at people that are trespassing, 347 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: how are we looking at people that are doing the 348 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: wrong things, how are we looking at young kids, how 349 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: are we looking at programs that they get into. 350 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: We've got workers shortages at the moment. 351 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: How we looking at getting these kids into programs, how 352 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: we looking at giving them the best opportunities to get 353 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: a job and to change their lives. So it is 354 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: the biggest problem that we look at. It is the 355 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: biggest problem that we look at, and we're discussing it 356 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: every week with police, with all of those wrap around services. 357 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: You've seen those Social order response teams that we've put 358 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: into place to try and help address with that. So 359 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: that all of territory, families and all of the police 360 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: are all working on these problems as a combined issue. 361 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: It's a mountain of work to do. We'll continue to 362 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: do it. 363 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a bit 364 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: of a break. You are listening to mix one oh 365 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: four nine's three sixty. It is the week that was've 366 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: been at Merry Christmas cheer at the end there if 367 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: you've just joined us, we've got the ALP's Paul Kirby, 368 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Independent Keziapuric and the colp's Marie Claire Boothby. Now we 369 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: know that well. After a month long negotiation period, the 370 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: Darwin Festival has rejected an offer of funding from a 371 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: philanthropists if the board agreed to dump its contest did 372 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: fossil fuel sponsorships following years of lobbying from artists and 373 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: traditional owners. Now, while Santos has already walked away amid 374 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: continued criticism of the role in the festival, the board 375 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: has doubled down on its remaining fossil fuel sponsorships. Is 376 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: how it's being reported. So in a letter obviously to 377 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: the Darwin Festival, the philanthropists have urged the board to 378 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: reconsider their position, saying we're disappointed that your initial response 379 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: to our offer is to reject a collaborative approach to 380 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: ensuring the sustainable future direction of the darw And Festival. 381 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: But look the way I see it is it may 382 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: indeed be some funding, but there's a lot of strings attached. 383 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: And you're talking about an independent board trying to run 384 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: that festival. I used to be on the board. 385 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 4: I know how hard it is and how close to 386 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: the bone they. 387 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: It's what they've done, and good on in Ce. Tell 388 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 5: them bloody Grinny left him. Mob to this or back 389 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 5: down south. You don't need them and we. 390 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Don't want them. Tell us a really clearly. 391 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: The Darwin Festival Board doesn't want them either because there 392 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: was way too many strings attached. And that woman was 393 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 5: on TV the other night. She looks like she needs 394 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: a good feed of meat. 395 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: You know. 396 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: The thing is it's hot. It is body hard work 397 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: to run that, you know, to run that festival and 398 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: the management of that festival, and you know the crew 399 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: there do a phenomenal job. 400 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 5: They really they held them to ransom and that is 401 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 5: no way to form a collaborative partnership. She needs to 402 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 5: get a dictionary, that woman and look up the definition 403 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 5: of collaborative, because that is not the way to do 404 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: it is to say you will do this, you will do. 405 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: This, and you will do this, then we might give 406 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: you money. 407 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 3: Absolutely too many strings attached, and they do they do 408 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: a mountain of work. You know, from twenty sixteen when 409 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: we came in, that was almost in receivership. 410 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: The festival has grown and grown and grown. 411 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: Over recent years direction and it's from those people from 412 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 3: private enterprise in conjunction with major events doing that hard 413 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: work to get it up and running. 414 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 4: And it is disappointing. 415 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: What I went to an APS like the Petroleum Industry 416 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: conference a few years ago, and they will absolutely admit 417 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 3: that gas is a transition industry. In ten years time, 418 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: we'll be having different discussions around renewables and all of 419 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: those things. Maybe we can get Twiggy to invest in the. 420 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: Maybe into the Hancock. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, see. 421 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 4: She does mining. So is that a loud or as well? 422 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: You see, this is the thing if it's had the 423 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: hard rock mining. 424 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 5: Okay, what if a sexy gold miner came along and said, 425 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: we want to invest in the Darance Festival because our 426 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 5: values aligne et cetera, et cetera. 427 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Was that going to be acceptable? 428 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: Well? 429 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: And this this is the whole point, isn't it that 430 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: it's you know that there were so many strings attached. 431 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: What about a quarry industry, like I don't know, We've 432 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: got lots of major extractive operators up here, you know, 433 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: gold boys like the Baby, you know, the Ostrigen, successful, 434 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 5: great company, you know, so where does where does this 435 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 5: greeny mob draw the line? 436 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: But also you know, like you touched on their curves 437 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and festival was almost at the point 438 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: where it wasn't going to be able to continue on. 439 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: So now it's at the point where it's had the 440 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: most successful year it's ever had. That's exactly right. And 441 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: so now all of a sudden, somebody wants to you 442 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: to be involved and to yeah, and you go that 443 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's right. When so much hard 444 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: work has gone in over the years, over such an 445 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: incredibly long period of time, and had no. 446 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 2: Fault of their own. They have literally been put into 447 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: a lose situation, and of course it's all because of 448 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: the collateral damage of these activists. It's terrible. 449 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: Well, and I will read you the statement that the 450 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: board sent out. They said, the Board recognizes that it 451 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: is due to the support of sponsors that Darwin Festival 452 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: is able to stage a world class festival, and would 453 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: like to express their appreciation to Original Power for coming 454 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: to them with the offer of sponsorship. There were some 455 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: non negotiable terms and conditions set out in the offer 456 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: that could have had wider implications to the independence and 457 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: operations of the festival, and attempts by the Board to 458 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: enter into negotiations around these terms were declined. After careful consideration, 459 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: the Board have made the decision to decline the sponsorship 460 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: offer put forward by Original Power. The festival's future is 461 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: secure and we look forward to sharing our twenty twenty 462 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: three program in the new year, and it sounds like. 463 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: That the board do are a great job and that 464 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure they have it under control, which is great, 465 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: but it is still a risk. I mean, if you 466 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: look at Victoria, what happened there with the netballers and 467 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: how that sponsorship was pulled, and I believe the Victorian 468 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: government are now coughing up that money. So it's taxpayers 469 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: and we just don't want to be in that situation 470 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: here at Darlot. It is a success. We need it 471 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: to continue to be a success, and it can come 472 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: from private industry. 473 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: And that's where private industry. If you know, people go 474 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: to that festival wall shapes and sizes and walks of life, 475 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: but maybe they have to come to the party. 476 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: But that's up to the board to approach. Gooper Companish. 477 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: But every major event that runs on sponsorship, like the 478 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 5: Dawn Show, like Fred's Pass Show, you know, they've always 479 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 5: had a certain amount of risk element to them. You know, 480 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 5: if we went into a financial slump, the financial crisis 481 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 5: some years ago, companies just pull back on those kind 482 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 5: of expenses because it's not really core business. So you know, 483 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 5: sponsorship is a tough gig to secure and to retain 484 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 5: because you and that's why the WOD collaborative is so important. 485 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 5: You actually form a partnership with the sponsor, and there's 486 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 5: got to be returns to them, whether it be sort 487 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: of philanthropic return or whether they get exposure for that 488 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 5: social license. 489 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: If people want to in the Northern Territory, they need 490 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: to invest in the community and things like that. 491 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: They're the ones that support the industry and business. 492 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 2: And they're going to be here anyway. I mean, Santas 493 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: to a truckload of work here in the territory. 494 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: So you come back, Santos. 495 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: But they should, they should invest and they are trying 496 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: and then this happens. 497 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: Well, just on that, I do just want to say 498 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: that we know that the National Gas you know, there 499 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: was the agreement throughout federal Parliament through the week, and 500 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: Santos has slammed the Albanzy government and accused it of 501 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: running a Soviet style nationalization policy after Labor pushed through 502 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: the controversial set of intervention measures designed to cut prices. 503 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: So they're obviously concerned. The energy producer which owns that 504 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: stake in Queensience GLNG Gas Project export Projects, said that 505 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: the heavy handed approach by the Prime Minister had put 506 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: Australia on par with authoritarian regimes. Now I don't know 507 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: whether that's the case or not. I don't know enough 508 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: about it. But what I wonder is whether it's going 509 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: to have any impact in terms of the Beaterloo project 510 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory with the legislation. 511 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 5: I do think it should be Katie because Beaterloo is 512 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: the production and the supply of gas two. 513 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: I think it just gres to that uncertainty though around. 514 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: Can I just when we put the regulations in place 515 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: for that onshore gas industry to start, we had the 516 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 3: heads of Santos and other big businesses. 517 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: They are businesses. 518 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: They don't like extra costs, they don't like extra regulations. 519 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 4: But you know what, they're still here. 520 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: They've told us that we have the toughest regulations that 521 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: they have to work through anywhere in the world. And 522 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 3: they're still here. 523 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 4: And so it makes it safer. 524 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: It makes it better for the consumers in the long 525 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: run than it makes it better for territories. 526 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: But they will still stay here and do business. 527 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: I agree with Paul, but on that point. 528 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: But this the National Sea, sorry, the Eastern Seaboard, and 529 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 5: their current energy. CHRISTI crisis supply, I think is a 530 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: separate issue to the supply of gas from the bable. 531 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: I mean there's enough, as I think I said in 532 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 5: Parliament in a speech, there's five hundred approximately trillion cubic feet. 533 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 5: And for people listening to put it in perspective, black 534 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 5: tip gas is one trillion cubic feet. So there's just 535 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 5: so much, and that's what they know at the moment. 536 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 5: There's nothing to suggest there isn't more gas in another 537 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 5: geological formation nearby. But I don't know much about what 538 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 5: Albanizi government's done, and. 539 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I will check it out. 540 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 5: But as I think Paul mentioned, what companies want, whether 541 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 5: it be a patrolling all gas mining company or any 542 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 5: business for that mine is they want dead set certainty 543 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: and they don't want restraints of trade. I know when 544 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: Western Australia bought in the gas reservation policy where the 545 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: companies have to reserve a certain amount of gas for 546 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: emergency christ problems in the in the West, there was 547 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 5: huge resistance. 548 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: Now good on the WO. 549 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: Government for pushing through and they came to an arrangement 550 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: with the companies. We don't have that up here, but 551 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 5: some governments would like to have that it's too laid 552 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: up here, but it sounds like it's a bit like that. 553 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 5: What Albanize is doing is they're putting restraints upon the 554 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: companies and how they must operate, which is which is 555 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 5: not right, it's not I don't believe. 556 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: Really need people to have their lights on. I mean, 557 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: that's the end of the day. 558 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: There needs to be Peter's down there. Yeah, well, look 559 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: we will take a bit of a break. You are 560 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty eight 561 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: is the week that was in the studio with us 562 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: this morning, Paul Kirby, Keesier Purick and Marie Claire Boothby. 563 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: And we do know this. Last week we spoke about 564 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: the ship left facility and some of the concerns after 565 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Cloff Group had gone into into administration. But the situation 566 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: is here now that obviously the c orp have referred 567 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: or they want to refer the ship lift project to 568 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: the Public Accounts Committee following those concerns that value for 569 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: territorians will not be realized if growing costs and the 570 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: demise of one of those league contractors well as a 571 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: result of that. So I know that the Shadow Minister 572 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: for Infrastructure Planning and Logistics. Jared Maylee had written to 573 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: the committee's chair, jol Bowden, to refer the project for 574 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: inquiry as the shiplift ballooned from one hundred million dollars 575 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: a one hundred million dollar project to more than half 576 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: a billion dollars in just six years. So I don't 577 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: know at this point in time whether it's going to 578 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: go to the Public Accounts Committee or exactly what the 579 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: situation is going to be. But I've got a message 580 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: from Jerry Wood. How am mister Woods. I love it 581 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: when Jerry gets in contact. Jerry see planning those trees. 582 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: Jerry said, if talking about the Public Accounts Committee not 583 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: being able to look at the shiplift, it is because 584 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: the committee must get approval from the Assembly and of 585 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: course the government runs the show. The Public Accounts Committee 586 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: should be able to look at it at what it 587 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: wants and have an independent chair as it was when 588 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: we had the Committee of Territory Cooperation under Labor government. 589 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: Now that would mean open and transparent government. So why 590 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: doesn't this government do that or does it have something 591 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: to hide? 592 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 4: Jerry wants us to bring him back and make him 593 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: the king maker because. 594 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 5: They're not open and transparent. It's simple, Jerry. 595 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: There's absolutely Look, every project that is going on around 596 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: the nation at the moment has gone up exponentially post COVID. 597 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: Everybody knows supply chains are really tough. What's happened to 598 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: Cloth is a separate set of circumstances. My intel is 599 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: that it's through their involvement in the Snowy River project 600 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: and there's been a massive expenditure and wa. 601 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: In the pilbra It's and it's pulled them down. 602 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: Like there's other interconnectors they're building in South Australia in 603 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: the electrical industry. Like the really sad story is hundreds 604 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: of people have just found out before before Christmas that 605 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 3: their jobs are done. That's really really sad to be honest, Like, 606 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: you know, we'll do what we have to do to 607 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: get that project up and running and to make sure 608 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: it gets off the ground, but it is really really 609 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: tough for those families. 610 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a big project. 611 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 5: And we've talked about this before, Katie, and and I'm 612 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: not an optimist that Cluff can come back from the 613 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: receivership or administration, but time will tell. But I think, 614 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 5: as we said before, the joint partner BMR or BMD, 615 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 5: whichever it is. They may well be in discussions right now, 616 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 5: but ultimately the client, which is the empty government, this 617 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 5: is my view, they will probably have to come up 618 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 5: with more money because it's the client's project and these 619 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: people have been contracted to supply the project. So if 620 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 5: one of the partners has gone down for whatever reason, 621 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 5: then there'll be discussions as to how do we keep 622 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: this project going forward. But I do believe that the client, 623 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: being anti government, will have to come up with more money. 624 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: Katie, I want to be clear the COLP actually support 625 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: a ship lifts project. I mean this is a major 626 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: project and we haven't seen any major projects get off 627 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: the ground, so we absolutely support it. What is concerning, 628 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: of course, is the budget blowout, like we've gone from 629 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars to nearly half a billion. But 630 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: even more concerning is the fact that Natasha Files has 631 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: literally ruled out the watchdog, which is the public accounts 632 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: can be that Jerry wood A leads to from looking 633 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: at it all together, and that was within hours of 634 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: Joel Bowden receiving that letter. To be able to the 635 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: Assembly is call it's twenty five members of Parliament. So 636 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: the fact that she just says straight out nope, we're 637 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: not going to look at it. It disregards every kind 638 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: of parliamentary process and democracy that we have. I mean, 639 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: there's a reason we have these scrutiny committees, and I 640 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: mean we see we've seen them in the last two years, 641 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: a road that's scrutiny, with cancelations of scrutiny committees and 642 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: less questions for opposition questions, not accepting center motions time 643 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: after time, knocking back select committees. They just what is 644 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: it that they're hiding? And it's really clear to territoriess 645 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: they are hiding something. I mean, we get questioned on 646 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: this stuff all of the time. We go into Parliament 647 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: representing Territorians who talk to us about what they want 648 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: us to talk to the government about, and the government 649 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: just says nothing to see here, We're not going to 650 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: talk about it. 651 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that it's fair for it 652 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: to actually be looked into. There's no harm in the 653 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: Public Accounts Committee having a look into this ship lived 654 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: to making sure that it is value for Territorians dollars, 655 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: because let's be honest, it's taxpayers money. 656 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: There will be a mountain of work that has to 657 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: go into making sure that that project can get back 658 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: off the ground. Now, absolutely no doubt about that, and 659 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: it is really tough. As I mentioned post COVID every 660 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: big project that you do. Now the costs have gone through. 661 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: If every flood that happens on the East Coast means 662 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: that supply of equipment, machinery, staff, having workers, it's all 663 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: going to be a problem into the future. 664 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: That's the worry I suppose, so too is that if 665 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: the cost is at half a billion dollars or five 666 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: hundred hours, Yeah, now what's going to happen as those 667 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: costs do blow out because presumably once you actually start, 668 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: that's when you will see the further blowout. 669 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: Well with people like probably almost a blessing in disguise 670 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: that it's happened before the project started. If they were 671 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: a third of the way into the project and something 672 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: that has happened, it would be really, really difficult to 673 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: work through. So it'll absolutely get off the ground. It'll 674 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: absolutely be the best value for money that it can be, 675 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: and that's why it was put together to be the 676 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: size project that it is to attract vessels from all around. 677 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: On the top end of Australia to make sure that 678 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: it's got the best chance of surviving long term into 679 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: the future. 680 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: Cans Is it going to beat it? 681 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: Are they? 682 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: Because they? 683 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 5: What what definitely will happen is it will cause delays, 684 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. How many delays and how 685 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 5: long don't know. It depends on discussions between government and 686 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: the business partners. But there will be delays and that 687 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 5: can be a problem because our window of opportunities may 688 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 5: well close because Ken's comes on board or are business looking. 689 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: To have their ships? 690 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: Would you call it cleaned and flushed out? Will go 691 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: to Perth. Perth has a fabulous facility. 692 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: But when you. 693 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: Look at the size of the defense investment into the 694 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: Darwin region that isn't going away in any short space 695 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: of time. There will be massive opportunities for for shiplifting. 696 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: Just because the government says that, though it doesn't mean 697 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: territories are buying it. I mean we've seen this time. 698 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: And time because we say that defense are investing. 699 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: You don't believe the federal government defense are investing. 700 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 5: But we need defense Navy investment for a ship lift, 701 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 5: not not tank tanks aren't going into this ship lift 702 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 5: and araplanes aren't going to this shiplift. We need the 703 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 5: Navy increased investment. 704 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: And a project of this side. It should be investigated, 705 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: it should be looked at to make sure that it's 706 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: not just the government saying it's going to be okay. 707 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: We need businesses to have confidence about what's happening as well, 708 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: and we're just not seeing that. I mean we've seen 709 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: projects fall over time and time again. I mean look 710 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: at the Sea Dragon and the prown fund that's still 711 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: not happening. What's happening without not sure. There's a bunch 712 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: of things we've got to road to nowhere, didn't they exactly? 713 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: So we just there's no harm in it being looked at. 714 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: It's a good thing for Territorians. They want that certainty. 715 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: And the fact that Tasha Files has said no straight 716 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: up without even thinking about it, is it goes to 717 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: her transparency and accountability. 718 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 5: Maybe she doesn't want the Parliament to sit at all. 719 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 5: Maybe we should get rid of the parliament somewhat. Would 720 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: have loved that someone wants to get rid of the 721 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: American Constitution. 722 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: Well never never yet questioned again, that's exactly what they 723 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: would like. 724 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: Well, you guys, ask yourselves questions in question time. Don't 725 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: you slage us about who can ask who questions? Because 726 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: when have you ever heard me decent questions from that position? 727 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: We are going to take a very short break and 728 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: when we come back, keen to get everybody's take. God, 729 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: what have been the biggest stories, the biggest issues, maybe 730 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: the biggest wins as well throughout twenty twenty two. It 731 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: is the final week that was for twenty twenty two, 732 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: and what a massive year it's been if you have 733 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: just joined us. Of course, I've got Mariy Claire Booth, 734 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: big keasy Appearican Paul Kirby in the studio this morning, 735 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: and really there's been some big highs, some big lows, 736 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: lots of big expectations I think for twenty twenty three. 737 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: But I guess going through you know, what were the 738 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: biggest issues of the year, what were the biggest wins 739 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: of the year, and what your hopes are for next year? 740 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: I know, for me, I'd say that definitely the issue 741 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: that we've received the most interaction from listeners about on 742 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: a daily basis on this show has been the concerns 743 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: that we've had with crime and anti social behavior, and 744 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: you know that's been tough. It's been tough for a 745 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of different businesses, and I really do hope that 746 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three we do see some you know, 747 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: some light at the end of the tunnel and things 748 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: starting to get a bit better. But I've got to say, 749 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: for me, the biggest highlight for me every year and 750 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: every day really is the you know, is hearing from 751 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: genuine everyday Territorians, whether that's with their good stories, whether 752 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: it's with their sad stories. You know, they make me laugh, 753 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: they make me cry. 754 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: I think the resilience of territories, particularly when it's as 755 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 3: hot as it is now. The lead up to Christmas 756 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: in the territory is a won full time. It's a 757 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: great time to wish everyone Merry Christmas, but to look 758 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 3: back over like some of the events that we do 759 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: in the territory, from Alice Springs with PARTSMA and the 760 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: Melbourne Footy Club going there, to having two games now 761 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 3: in the Top End with Gold Coaster, to having some 762 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 3: amazing AFL players come and to play in the territory. 763 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: Every time we have those really big events that the 764 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 3: Salties we were just talking about how big an input 765 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: they have had to have the NBL come and play 766 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: here for the first time. That was fantastic. But it 767 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: really is the best place in the world to live. 768 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: We know it's a tough place at times sport up here. 769 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 5: I mean, we know we get a lot of the 770 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 5: teams from down south who are going somewhere fromn international 771 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: competition and they come up here as a as a 772 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 5: training ground to get used to heat whatever the heat 773 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 5: may be or wherever they're going. And I think in 774 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 5: the last little while we have the Olympians. 775 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, at one point was that this year last year. 776 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 5: And the athletics check out at Marara has been brought 777 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 5: up to standard finally so we can have not only 778 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 5: our meats but national meets and potentially international meets. 779 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's positive. 780 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 5: So I think I mean that Marara Complex generally, I 781 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 5: think it was set up usually by the COLP. That 782 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 5: is a fabulous complex. You know, there's no. 783 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: Direct and of course I think probably you know the 784 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 1: fact that. 785 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: COVID is sort of still around, but you know, we've 786 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 5: just learned to live with it a little bit better 787 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 5: and we're still very conscious of it. I mean, I've 788 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 5: got it coming back from overseas. Its the most dreadful illness. 789 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 5: But I think that we've still got to be conscious 790 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 5: of our space and try and keep COVID at a minimum. 791 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 5: And I think the health professionals and all the advice 792 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 5: that people give out, that's got to be a bonus. 793 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that, as we all know, the 794 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 5: territory fared a lot better. My two nieces are up 795 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 5: for Christmas or ones come back to live here, and 796 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 5: they were looking at us. I think it was election 797 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 5: night too, whenever it was elections, and she was down 798 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 5: south watching it on TV and we were all hugging 799 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 5: each other and she was in longdown going what's going 800 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 5: on territory? So we definitely have not fared as badly 801 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 5: as the other place. And I think, you know, there's 802 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 5: lots of positives around here. We've had a crooked year 803 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 5: for lots of reasons. But I think, as Paul said, 804 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 5: you know, we're a resilient bunch and we've just got to. 805 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: Get opportunities in the Northern Territory. 806 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: Lif I've always been there, They've always been there. 807 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: You know, you've got kids that are growing up here, 808 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: and the opportunities that kids get here and the chances 809 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 3: that people get in their career and that you know, 810 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: we're going through some some tough EBA negotiation has got 811 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: one across the board with the teachers, with. 812 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 4: The teachers the other day. We continue to do that. 813 00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: Do you come here for opportunity? 814 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 5: Talk about briefully the teachers have been offered whatever they've 815 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 5: been three plus plus where you can't go underneath that 816 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 5: for any other EBA you've actually got to match that 817 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 5: or go high police corrections. 818 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: You can't lower. 819 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 3: It's a two percent pay deal that they've been able 820 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 3: to find another percent within their bargaining wat. 821 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. What do you reckon a bit? 822 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: What's been Can I just add in there because I 823 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: didn't get to bud in then, on the back of 824 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: what Keiser and Paul said, like, I think, yeah, the 825 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 2: territory is a great place to live and of course 826 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: we do love living here. And I mean they see 827 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: your p opposition will continue to be out listening to territorians. 828 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: I mean we saw, you know, the Parliament exposed Labor 829 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: recently for their anti freedom of speech and anti faith 830 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: based schools legislation which they passed, and of course that 831 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: was completely out of touch with what territorians were looking 832 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: for and we saw that through rallies at them that 833 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: a lot of the faith based organizations we're having. We 834 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: also persistently stood up for our police and our community 835 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: by trying five different times to create an inquiry into 836 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: the policing and what's been happening with crime and police, 837 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: and it did get knocked back every time. But you know, 838 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: our promise to territories is luck we have been done 839 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: doing for a number of years. We will continue to 840 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: listen to them. We will continue to take the fight 841 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: to the labor government to ensure that they are heard, 842 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: no matter how hard the labor government make it for us. 843 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 5: The big issues for the year are the best issues. 844 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: Well, what do you reckon? Well, I reckon we had 845 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good dry season. We did have a good 846 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: change chief ministers. Now we changed chief minutes a week 847 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: of different things. 848 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: Wins. Actually it was a win and now it's a 849 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: loss because we have even did you say that about mind, Natasha? 850 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: I know you like Natasha Katie. The interesting thing is legislation. 851 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 5: See that Michael Gunner still has Instagram post charity chief. 852 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: Now what's going on? There's anymore the chief of his 853 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: own household. Maybe maybe you met Christy Christie, she's the chief. 854 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: Well look, it's it has certainly been a massive year, 855 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: you know, no matter how you look at it. But 856 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: what I think the really important point is that we 857 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: do have such a resilient bunch of Territorians. And one 858 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: thing that I've loved absolutely and the thing that I 859 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: always love is that when somebody goes through a tough time, 860 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: what we see immediately on the phone lines in this 861 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: studio is other Territorians stepping up and going, hey, I'm. 862 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: Prepared to help. 863 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, giving out gifts or like people who that lady, 864 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 5: who's your girl? 865 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: Got it with the rock? Yesay to the young girl. 866 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 5: Yeah you're right. Territories say, yep, I'll help them. 867 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: He doesn't matter what industry or if it's just members 868 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 3: of the public, like people diging behind each other in 869 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: the Northern Territory like nowhere else. I recon just the 870 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: storms in our springs recently and people just walk in 871 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 3: the streets with James AU's clearing. 872 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 4: Trees and it's an amazing place. We live in the 873 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 4: best place. 874 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: What are your hopes for twenty twenty three? Before I 875 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: let you all go fearing better? Territory and mb all side. 876 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: I want our community to feel safer, Katie. I mean 877 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 2: we talk about it all the time. There's not scared. 878 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of changes that can happen. I mean 879 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: we've seen it with our children and our seniors and 880 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: we just want them to feel safe. 881 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 5: I would like the white ants to stop eating my 882 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,479 Speaker 5: trees at home. 883 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: What about for the wider community? For the wider community, okay. 884 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 5: I would actually like the government to take on a 885 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 5: CeNSE of motion one time and let's be scared once, 886 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 5: just once. 887 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: I think we tried. I think we tried seven. 888 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: Chris Burns was the leader of Government Business. 889 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 5: He would get up and say, yeap will take the 890 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 5: censure and then they got up and had their say, 891 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 5: and this opposition had their say, and maybe Jerry Woold. 892 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: Had his say. So don't be scaredy cats. 893 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 5: Take on the centre, you know, set up select committees, 894 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 5: select committees and committees of the parliament. They're not a 895 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 5: government committee, you know. And the recommendation is good or bad. 896 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 5: You don't have to excess open and transparency and then 897 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 5: don't understand the parliamentary process is better. 898 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: So that's Mike, we. 899 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: Need to understand you at least we have pasted hundreds 900 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 3: of pieces of legislation to many opposition months and months 901 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 3: and months to even try and get. 902 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 4: A billboard in. We understand the process. 903 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: If you were in opposition, you had to I'm offended 904 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: by that. I'm going to take exactly to that Department 905 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: of hurt feelings. I'm Another hope that I've got for 906 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is that instead of our Polly's getting 907 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: offended by each other and by different things that are 908 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: being raised, is for you all to you know, to 909 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: understand that they are issues that everyday Territorians care about. 910 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: While you may not like them, or while you may 911 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: not like the different issues that are being raised, you know, 912 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that you listen to them 913 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: because they're genuine concerns of the community. 914 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: That's lovely. Do you have another win? Actually, okay, make 915 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 2: it quick. And this is in particular my electorate. So 916 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: the Bakewell Primary School car park and these guys on this. 917 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 2: You don't know that I talk about this every sittings 918 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: that I possibly can. We have finally finally been able 919 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: to get at the government, both nty and federal to 920 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: co contribute to have it upgraded. So we're going to 921 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: have more car parks and a kissing drop zone, which 922 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 2: is much better. That is something that I've been fighting 923 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 2: for for a long time and the community have been 924 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 2: really getting behind me to make that happen. 925 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 5: So finally, has anyone text in to say they're not 926 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 5: my mother? 927 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: Yes, they have. Let me just double check that for you. 928 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: So I believe I've got one here that says I'm 929 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: just trying to find it now. I found it before. 930 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: I believe that it said, Hi, Katie, are straight talking 931 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: Keysier for chief Ministers? Still not She is Maryanne from Virginia. 932 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Maryanne. There you come in for it. We tipple 933 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: later next week. Oh goodness. 934 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 5: May all right. 935 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: On that note, we are going to have to wrap up. 936 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: I have a cragging Christmas. Christmas babies. Oh yes, a 937 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to all the christ and happy Birthday Christmas 938 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: Chris Young's wife. You only young, Briana Gallagher? Oh is 939 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: it Christmas baby? And of course my mother no, weel 940 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's lovely. We get sets of presents. 941 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 5: My mother has birthday presents and stuff in the morning 942 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 5: for breakfast, and then we do Christmas later. 943 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: That's the way it should be. 944 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 2: You've got to. 945 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: Get double presents if your birthday is Christmas Day. Thank 946 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: you all so very much for your time this morning, 947 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: but all throughout the year as well. We appreciate the 948 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: fact that we've always got the government, the opposition, and 949 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: indeed the independence on the show, not only for the 950 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: week that was, but for our listeners to hear from 951 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: each and every day. So thank you all so very much. 952 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. 953 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 4: Everyone. Travel safe if you are going anywhere. We know 954 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 4: that the. 955 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 3: Flights are expensive and the airports are all so so 956 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 3: be early to your flights and travel safe. 957 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 4: Everyone. Look forward to seeing everyone in the new year. 958 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh there we go. Merry Christmas.