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Speaker 1: Mark Turner now sits as an independent and is the

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Speaker 1: incumbent member, and joins me on the line right now.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Mark.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm very well. Now we've got seven minutes and a

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Speaker 1: series of questions. Are you ready to get started?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Fire away. The more difficult the better.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it now. Why did you decide

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Speaker 1: to put your hand up to run again? Oh?

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Speaker 2: You think I ran last time because I was set

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Speaker 2: up and banging my head against the brick wall as

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Speaker 2: a policeman. Unfortunately, I've just found a different brick wall

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Speaker 2: to bang my head against. But we have managed to

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Speaker 2: get results over the last four years. The only problem

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Speaker 2: is without a whole of government response, we're just squeezing

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Speaker 2: the balloon and moving the problem elsewhere. This my community,

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Speaker 2: I live in it. I'm raising my children here, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not willing to let things keep on sliding in

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Speaker 2: the direction they're going in Now.

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Speaker 1: Based on your previous experience, and certainly based on the

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Speaker 1: experience that you've had as an office, so why do

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Speaker 1: you think that you're the best person for the job.

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Speaker 2: Well, because somebody needs to turn around and say stop,

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Speaker 2: we've got to put the brakes on and have a

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Speaker 2: look at why these problems are happening and why they're

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Speaker 2: getting worse. None of the glossy media releases have actually

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Speaker 2: fixed anything, and all of the promises that have been

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Speaker 2: made at repeated elections unfortunately seem to come to nothing.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had some propaganda dropped in the postbox

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Speaker 2: yesterday about boot camps. Again. It was the same thing

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Speaker 2: they were saying four years ago, but they just they

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Speaker 2: don't happen. The prison is full, the tension center is full,

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Speaker 2: and we've got the ridiculous situation where people are not

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Speaker 2: worried about going in there. There's no you know, regardless

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Speaker 2: of the lack of consequences, we're not dealing with the

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Speaker 2: problem before it happens. And it's not rocket science. You know.

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Speaker 2: You look at other jurisdictions in Australia and they are

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Speaker 2: proactively dealing with this and until we adopt a zero

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Speaker 2: tolerance approach. And you know, one of government's most important

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Speaker 2: responsibilities is keeping its people safe, and we're failing in

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Speaker 2: that massively at the moment. I've got constituents in Woodruff

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Speaker 2: that haven't slept for two weeks, and we've got the

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Speaker 2: legislation to deal with it, which is the most frustrating

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Speaker 2: thing as a politician. But the police just don't have

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Speaker 2: the resources to And I think that's at least one

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Speaker 2: of the things I bring to the table. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I know the problems intimately from dealing with them for

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Speaker 2: the last twenty four years now, I can shine a

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Speaker 2: light on it that other people can't.

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Speaker 1: So what do you see as being the biggest issues

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Speaker 1: in the electros?

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Speaker 2: Not law and order without shadow of doubt, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think we were looking at the figures of what

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Speaker 2: we've had come into the office and law and order,

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Speaker 2: anti social behavior and predominantly housing have been the biggest issues. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: education then comes in, but most of the education issues

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Speaker 2: and the housing issues again all stem back to law

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Speaker 2: and order and is trying to get the different government

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Speaker 2: agencies to work together. I got called yesterday morning because

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Speaker 2: there was a scared old lady in Malden punch up

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Speaker 2: in the street again, called police, No police available to come,

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Speaker 2: call public housing safety, No public Housing safety available to come.

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Speaker 2: So I'd ended up dealing with it, calling Triple O

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Speaker 2: and not taking all the photos for the crime scene stuff,

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Speaker 2: and I'm still yet to get a response. And I

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Speaker 2: know that the General Duties Police at Armerston just as

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Speaker 2: frustrated as everyone else is. You talk to the rank

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Speaker 2: they're saying the same thing, which is why the whole

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Speaker 2: reason the Cabinet and the Subcommittee of Cabinets exist is

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Speaker 2: to deal with this issue, and they're just not now.

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Speaker 1: Based on your previous experience, I guess you know, based

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Speaker 1: on what you've just spoken about there as being the

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's because it's no fault of the politicians.

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Speaker 2: They don't have the background that I do. But I've

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Speaker 2: from that. And I've had people from the COLP, you know,

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Speaker 2: say it's not fair. Not everybody is a six foot

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Speaker 2: nine x cop and not everybody can do what you do.

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Speaker 2: But I suppose that's the reason if your listeners who

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Speaker 2: were in our community, you want to keep me there.

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Speaker 2: That's what I bring to the table now.

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Speaker 1: In terms of some of the other issues that are

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Speaker 1: being raised in the electric mold and oval is something

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Speaker 1: that's been raised with us quite a bit. The oval

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Speaker 1: there at the school. Is that something that has been

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Speaker 1: raised with you? And have you done any work in

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Speaker 1: this space or has it just sort of moved into

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Speaker 2: Oh, we've had people from Molden contacting us probably about

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Speaker 2: the last six months and that was definitely one of

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Speaker 2: the issues that was frustrating people. We wrote to the

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Speaker 2: Minister responsible all right, I think it was probably about

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Speaker 2: three months ago, and again it was the usual issue

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Speaker 2: in the territory of different agencies holding different responsibilities. We

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Speaker 2: Education yep, so your Palmerston had responsibility for the ball.

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Speaker 2: So it was getting all of that fixed and then

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Speaker 2: the clas have come on board to get the maintenance done.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully that was one of the easier things that

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Speaker 2: we managed to fix.

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Speaker 1: So and so were you involved in the fixing of that,

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Speaker 1: because we've spoken, I mean we've spoken about it with

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things as a local member where

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Speaker 2: you can write, you can make noise, you can be annoying,

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Speaker 2: but ultimately it comes down to the departments to do

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Speaker 2: And it's one of the things I found that as

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Speaker 2: long as I put things in writing, they haven't got

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Speaker 2: the deniability. They can't ignore it anymore and let me

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Speaker 2: get the action on it or up.

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Speaker 1: Forty five seconds to go. Why should people vote for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you want politics done differently, if you want

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Speaker 2: people will that will talk up when they need to

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Speaker 2: talk up, and if you want somebody who's who's not

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Speaker 2: scared to have the difficult conversations and can't be leaned on,

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Speaker 2: I'm the person for you.

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Speaker 1: Well, Mark Turner, You've got about ten seconds to go.

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Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say.

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Speaker 2: Oh, mainly thank you to you and your listeners. If

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for you guys raising this and keeping the

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Speaker 2: pressure on government, it would just disappear off. So whatever

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Speaker 2: happens at the election, we need people to get involved,

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Speaker 2: join political parties and make democracy work for us. If

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Speaker 2: we just leave it to the powers to be, the

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Speaker 2: problems are going to keep on coming, so please everybody

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Speaker 2: get involved.

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Speaker 1: Mark Turner, thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Much appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Cheers, Katie, thank you,