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Speaker 1: New Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, this next guest. She's one of our great friends

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Speaker 2: and she's one of Australia's most acclaimed actresses. Of course,

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Speaker 2: you know her from Julian Pack to the Rafters and

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Speaker 2: a thousand other incredible roles. There's a new one though,

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Speaker 2: that I'm so excited about. A new show called prosper

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Speaker 2: starts on stand tomorrow. It's a show about a wealthy

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Speaker 2: evangelical family whose faith and ambition threatened to tear them apart.

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Speaker 2: It sounds fabulous. Rebecca Gibney, Hello, hello, good morning morning.

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Speaker 2: Very well, this is a role the likes of which

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Speaker 2: I imagine you haven't played before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: It's actually been one of the toughest ones for me

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Speaker 3: because throughout the course of the series she deals with

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Speaker 3: certain things that really do cause major conflict for her

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Speaker 3: emotionally and spiritually, and so I was constantly questioning the scripts.

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Speaker 3: I kept reading them going oh, why is she doing that?

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Speaker 3: And I had to keep going to the writers and

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Speaker 3: they kept giving me the right answers.

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Speaker 1: And it's because she you know, they're flawed.

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Speaker 3: They it might be people with lofty expectations and they

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Speaker 3: are the heads of the chip, but they're flawed because

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Speaker 3: everyone is, so you're never going to live up to

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Speaker 3: those expectations.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting you say that. As an actor, I've often

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Speaker 4: thought about that. If you're in a movie and say

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Speaker 4: you're like, I'm a good guy. You know me, I'm

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Speaker 4: a good guy. But imagine Hollywood calls me and they

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Speaker 4: say we want you to be a real baddy bad guy.

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Speaker 4: And they're, well, I don't know if I could do that,

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Speaker 4: but you so. Are you allowed to push back? So

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Speaker 4: you get a script? Can you say well, I don't think,

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Speaker 4: I don't think my character I don't think, and they'll say, well, yes,

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Speaker 4: well you can say that.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, the great thing was with this they're

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Speaker 1: so layered.

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Speaker 3: Every every episode of this series, you peel back another

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Speaker 3: layer of each character and you discover why they're behaving

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Speaker 3: the way they are or why they're doing and every

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Speaker 3: one of them is completely relatable, even though they're flawed.

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Speaker 3: I think the great thing about this series is that

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Speaker 3: people will be able to like someone then dislike them.

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Speaker 3: They might not like what they're doing, but they'll understand

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Speaker 3: why they're doing it. So I think that's the writing

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Speaker 3: is fantastic in the.

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Speaker 2: Series, and Richard Roxborough plays your husband, the sort of

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Speaker 2: evangelical showman. From what I can see, that's an interesting

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Speaker 2: role for him too. Was it fun.

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Speaker 3: You know at the end of every day because we

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Speaker 3: very rarely had fun together as characters because we're constantly

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Speaker 3: battling each other. We kept saying at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, you know, we're great to do a comedy

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Speaker 3: after this. This, I think from active my perspective, is

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Speaker 3: one of his best performances because he is constantly challenged

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Speaker 3: throughout this whole series. He is unraveling, So there's not

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Speaker 3: a lot of laughs for Richard, and he's the only

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Speaker 3: person I think that could have played it because he

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Speaker 3: is so charismatic and he is so watchable and believable.

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Speaker 3: When you see him start to unravel and you see

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Speaker 3: him start to do certain things, you understand why he's

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Speaker 3: doing it.

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Speaker 4: They all start with the best intentions, don't they. You

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Speaker 4: look at Jonestown Jim Jones, he started with really good intentions.

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Speaker 4: But how does it go from you want to help

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Speaker 4: out everyone and live in this great world to all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden you're all drinking poison kool aid.

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Speaker 2: But whether you're evangelical. Whether you're a politician, you're a

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Speaker 2: business person, it's the same thing, isn't it. You know,

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Speaker 2: you start somewhere and suddenly you look back and you

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Speaker 2: see a path you don't recognize anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. And I think what this series is

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Speaker 1: trying to say is that power and wealth can.

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Speaker 3: Corrupt even the faithful. And that's what that's what this

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Speaker 3: show is all about.

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Speaker 2: Love it Do you live in New Zealand? How do

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Speaker 2: you make that work for yourself? So if you film

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Speaker 2: something like prosper for example, you just pack your bag

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Speaker 2: and you stay in a hotel, you film it, and

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Speaker 2: then you come home again. You work in chunks.

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Speaker 1: Now I've probably most of last year away from here.

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Speaker 3: I was in Sydney for about four and a half

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Speaker 3: months in an apartment so and then I've been in

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Speaker 3: Queenstown recently shooting Under the Vine series three.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very rarely at home.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and the reason we you know, we love

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, but we're also still here, as we were

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Speaker 3: talking about before, because our son.

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Speaker 1: Still lives here. So wherever he goes, I will I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be the stroker mom. We've only got once well.

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Speaker 2: He's a budding actor, so he could go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So if he ends up like I said

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Speaker 1: and Katmandu, I'll be there on what you're watching.

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Speaker 2: You have to guide him to go somewhere that you

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Speaker 2: want to go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of go to get him to go

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Speaker 4: to cool places like why why is great?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah is great? Okay, I'll ask him some stuff. Got

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Speaker 1: a job yet, he's still he's.

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Speaker 4: Still well, so he'll be He'll be hanging around for

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Speaker 4: some time.

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Speaker 1: Then, I think, so what is in Wellington? So we

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Speaker 1: just keep I keep popping it. Well.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to watch you get Prosperous out tomorrow

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Speaker 4: only on stand. Rebecca Given, thank you for joining.

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Speaker 1: Us, Thanks for having me. I'll see you in the

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Speaker 1: studio sometimes.

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Speaker 2: We love that. Yes, please