1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Good morning Ben, Good morning j Meat, Barrow Bara meet 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Ben made you guys would know each other out of 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: it West we do. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: We talk philosophy a lot out exactly. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the desk buddies. We sit 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: across a cubicle partition. That's all we talk about, Barry. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 3: Isn't it philosophy? 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 4: Normally it starts like what am I doing here? Because 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 4: Ben's got a desk like that he doesn't use, so 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 4: that's how important he is. 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: It. 12 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: We like he's always out on the story. 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 4: He's got the coolest desk too, because he gets all 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 4: those giveaways and stuff. So I'm always looking for stuff to. 15 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 3: Take a lot of movie memorabilia. I've been wondering where 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: it's been going. I could tell you what I could 17 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: do with I could do with some Julia Roberts merch because, 18 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: as you say, Barrett, she is fantastic. And so we're 19 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: talking about this new movie after the Hunt. So it's 20 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: I guess it's an examination of the me Too movement 21 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 3: and kind of where me too has ended up, because 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: you know, when it kind of really took off in 23 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: sort of you know, twenty fifteen issues, you know, the 24 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: thinking of the time was this is going to change everything, 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: is going to change the entertainment industry, and it certainly 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: did to some extent, and it certainly did for some people. 27 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: But you know, now you could probably make the case 28 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 3: that maybe it didn't quite live up to its potential 29 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: as a total game changer, and this film kind of 30 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: looks at, you know, where things have ended up and 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: what happens to people who are accused, and if there's 32 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: any long term ramifications. Julia Roberts, who doesn't do a 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: lot of movies anymore, it plays a Yale professor of philosophy. 34 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: She's you know, very well respected within the university. She's 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: about to get tenure, which is a big deal. Basically 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: you're set for life if you get tenure, and she's 37 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: up against another professor, a younger rock star, kind of 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: vibe professor played by Andrew Garfield, former Spider Man. But 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: they're mates, they're good mates. It's kind of a friendly rivalry. 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: You get the feeling that there's maybe a little chemistry 41 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: going on between them as well, which you know is 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: a bit annoying to Julia Roberts's husband, played by Michael 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: still Bug, who's a psychiatrist, and he kind of laughs 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: it off, and he thinks that Andrew Garfield's character is 45 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: a bit of a sort of a puppy dog chasing 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: after Julia Roberts. And they're at a at a party 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: at the start of the movie at Julia's house and 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: they all of the students and professors at Yale are 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: having a few wines talking about philosophy, pretty deep stuff 50 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: if I'm being honest, party, and they start talking about 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: cancel culture and the idea that you know, like Julia 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: Roberts is going to get tenure because it's an environment 53 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: at the moment where you know, maybe women get opportunities 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: that they haven't had in the past, and if you're 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: a straight white man like Andrew Garfield, you're going to 56 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 3: miss out. 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: So it helps. 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: It helps because what happens next, all the secrets start 59 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: coming out. Also, that's got to be if I'm making 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: this movie, I'm getting some great secrets for Julia Roberts. 61 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 3: So she got some well, so it says she's she's 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: definitely got some skeletons in the closet, right, But they 63 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: save it till right at the end, and so thatstic party, 64 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: they have this big party and then and then you 65 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: you see Andrew Garfield and Ao at a Berry. So, 66 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: people who've watched The Bear, she's Sydney and The Bear, 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: she's fantastic. She's a young PhD student. She's Julia Roberts's 68 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: protege in the film. They walk off together off into 69 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: the campus at night, and then the film cuts to 70 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: the next morning. All of a sudden, Ao at a 71 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: Berry wakes up and you can tell something has happened. 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: She's shook. She goes to see Julia roberts and says, look, 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: something happened last night. Andrew Garfield's character has sexually assaulted me, basically, 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: and Julia Robertson doesn't really react amazingly to this information 75 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: because she's good mates with this fellow professor. She doesn't 76 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: totally discount the accusation, but she also she's in an 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: awkward position. 78 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: But it's about consent, then, isn't it. Yeah. 79 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: Well, and then Andrew Garfield's character gives you a different 80 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: version of the events and said that he was only 81 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: there to confront this PhD student about her plagiarism, which 82 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: is something that Julia roberts was actually aware of. So 83 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: and then she has apparently concocted this story to you know, 84 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: kind of get out of this plagiarism scandal, to discredit 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: the professor that's accused her, and so it creates this 86 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: ambiguity that the film kind of explores over about two 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: hours or so. I think that. 88 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: It's actually better than what you're saying, though, isn't it, 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: because that sounds very boring at the moment. Complicated. This is. 90 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: This is this is not like, this is not like 91 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: you Julia Roberts, John Grisham movies from back in the nineties, 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: So this is like, it's not the Pelican Brief. 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: It's not the Pelicans. 94 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 4: Do you leave the movie and think I need to 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: email someone and apologize? Is that the sort of feeling 96 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: you get. 97 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: I personally know. 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: This. 99 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: So this is more our house. I think it's important 100 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 3: to remember. So it's directed by this Italian or to 101 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: Luca Guardaninho, who do you remember that tennis movie from 102 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: a year or so ago Challenges with Zendaya, So he 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: was behind that movie. He also did Call Me by 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: Your Name, which is kind of like a culty, kind 105 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: of like a gay romance movie from a few years ago. 106 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: And so his style is you know, very artistic, it 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: looks gorgeous, it's very intellectual. So you've got a lot 108 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: of that going on as well. It's not it's not 109 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: your traditional popcorn movie by all means. Yeah, and so 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: the film kind of follows, and you have to decide 111 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: as an audience member who you believe, where you believe. 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: How many philosophy doctorates out of five do you give? 113 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: How many times do they say truth is complicated? 114 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: If a film screens, if a film screens in a cinema, 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: and as there's no one in the cinema scream, So 116 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: it's a great question. Three and a half. 117 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a smart guy, and you're a deep person. 118 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: Deep it's not that. But if you're looking to escape 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: for a while with a bit of popcorn and the baby. 120 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: Julia Roberts, Julie Robs, go see this for Julia Roberts. 121 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: It's so great to see her back on the big 122 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: screen where she belongs. 123 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: And if it wins an Oscar, at least you'll be 124 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: able to say, I went sawy. 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: No one is one hundred percent right, but all of 126 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 4: them are one hundred percent smug. 127 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: All right, very much, We'll send you off to see 128 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: something maybe a little lighter next week and you could 129 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: come back Ben and furious something from Marvel. See you guys, 130 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: all right, see you mate,