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Speaker 1: Let Me Tell You a Story.

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Speaker 2: Now on Time Cleary releases The Story behind the song

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Speaker 2: I'm Not in Love by British group ten C C,

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Speaker 2: written by Eric Stewart and Graham Goldman and known for

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Speaker 2: its innovative and distinctive backing track composed mostly of the

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Speaker 2: band's multi tracked vocals, It was released in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: five as the second single from the band's third album,

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Speaker 2: The Original Soundtrack. It was a number one single in

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Speaker 2: the UK and it became their breakout hit or breakthrough

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Speaker 2: hit outside of the UK. Tommy the charts here in

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Speaker 2: Australia as well as in Canada, Ireland, Germany, New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: Norway and the United States. So what is the story

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Speaker 2: behind I'm Not in Love?

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Speaker 3: Well, you've got to go to the fact that TENCC

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Speaker 3: was such a unique band lease because it had young

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Speaker 3: lot got off. In bands, you'll get one, maybe two

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Speaker 3: really good songwriters. So in this case you had the

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Speaker 3: Master sixty songwriter and Graham Goldman, who we caught up

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Speaker 3: with last year. Yeah, with all those hits with the

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Speaker 3: Hollies and Herman's Hermits. Eric Stewart in his own and

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Speaker 3: write a great songwriter. I write this and then that

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Speaker 3: incredible creative peer of LOLd Cream and Kevin Godley as well,

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Speaker 3: so they were great. Yeah, I got in Cream, so

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Speaker 3: we're a little bit different. And yes, of course long

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Speaker 3: Cream's real name was Laughing out Loud Cream. Now, Graham

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Speaker 3: Gordman we had a really good chat doing last year, right,

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Speaker 3: and he talks here about the changes in the early

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Speaker 3: days of this song with DNCC.

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Speaker 1: The song was actually recorded twice. The first version of

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Speaker 1: it was like a bust and over and we recorded

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Speaker 1: it in that kind of rhythm and it didn't really

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Speaker 1: work for us, so we scrapped that, but the song

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Speaker 1: kind of hung around in our minds and Kevin Godley

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Speaker 1: came up with the idea of changing the rhythm and

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Speaker 1: also doing it with just voices. The intention was to

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Speaker 1: put the rhythm track down for something to sing to

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Speaker 1: and then take it off, but it had its own magic.

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Speaker 1: And then we developed this technique for multi tracking ourselves

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Speaker 1: because we wanted this big choir sound, and and really

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Speaker 1: everything that we did, every idea that we had for overdubs,

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Speaker 1: really worked beautifully and that's how the record was made.

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Speaker 3: And in the days of Venologue, this was all on tape, right,

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Speaker 3: so you guys are sending up tape loops for every

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Speaker 3: for every part of the song. It must have been

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Speaker 3: a miss in that studio.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we had. There's quite a lot of things

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Speaker 1: going on. Of course, if it was recorded today, you

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't even use that method. You just go to

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Speaker 1: some sort of sample, you know, but it wouldn't sound

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Speaker 1: the same. So to us, it was very exciting to

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Speaker 1: be developing a method that I know other people have copied,

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Speaker 1: which is very gratifying. But to hear what you know

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Speaker 1: here for the first time was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Quite freaky, isn't it when you think about it, working

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Speaker 3: with actual tapes and trying to cut them up and

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Speaker 3: dub over the top. We do remember a long time ago,

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Speaker 3: and of course the boys the other voice he had

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Speaker 3: not ninety six of them to Jason's table from the

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Speaker 3: cafe on Sunday mornings there chatting with Graham Goldblan. Graham

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Speaker 3: here also talking about the beand's thoughts on writing a

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Speaker 3: ballad and a love song as you mentionally so broke

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Speaker 3: them through outside of the UK.

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Speaker 4: Well, Eric Stewart and I had spent a long time

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Speaker 4: avoiding writing a love song or any indeed, Kevin and

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Speaker 4: Loll in the band. We just didn't think it was.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else had done it, and up to that point

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Speaker 4: we didn't think it was right, but we were really

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Speaker 4: sort of searching for I always thought we could write

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Speaker 4: a great ballad, and Eric came up with a perfect

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Speaker 4: time full of I'm Not in Love and I had

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Speaker 4: these intro chords and Eric had the sort of first

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Speaker 4: lines and.

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Speaker 3: We wrote it very quickly.

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Speaker 4: We recorded it once and discarded it because it didn't

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Speaker 4: feel right. Kevin came up with a different beat, and

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Speaker 4: all came up with the idea. Well, originally it was

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Speaker 4: going to be just all voices, but we had to

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Speaker 4: have a rhythm track to play too, so we just

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Speaker 4: sort of did the rhythm track out of two tapes,

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Speaker 4: I think. But even at that point there was a

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Speaker 4: sort of something magic about it, and we put the

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Speaker 4: voices on Catglorhythm Truck, of course, and it just grew

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Speaker 4: and with every I've noticed that any if you've got

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Speaker 4: a really good song, all the production ideas just cut

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Speaker 4: and they all seem to work.

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Speaker 3: How's it four creative minds working on a song. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure they had some bannies as well.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt I taken out with stuff like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just unreal. Ten c C. It's already behind the

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Speaker 3: song