WEBVTT - Why students are protesting in the U.S.

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is the Daily OS.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Daily OS. Oh now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning and welcome to the Daily ODS. It is Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>the third of May. I'm billy, i'm zara. Student protests

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<v Speaker 2>over the Israel Hamas war have intensified across US college

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<v Speaker 2>campuses this week and have now spread to universities here

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. Protesters are calling for an immediate ceasefire and

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<v Speaker 2>for their universities to divest from, which means stop investing

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<v Speaker 2>funds in companies linked to Israel. According to CNN, more

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<v Speaker 2>than one thousand students have been arrested across at least

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one states since mid April. Today we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>explain exactly what you need to know, but before we

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<v Speaker 2>get their zara, what is making headlines?

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<v Speaker 3>Attorney General Mark Dreyfus is urging parents to consider who

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<v Speaker 3>they are sharing content with online after a survey of

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<v Speaker 3>four thousand parents by the Australian Institute of Criminology found

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<v Speaker 3>nearly three percent had received requests online for child's sexual

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<v Speaker 3>exploitation material. Around a third of these parents were offered

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<v Speaker 3>payment for the exploitative content. Dreyfus said parents need to

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<v Speaker 3>be more aware of the potential harms to their child

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<v Speaker 3>if their photos are posted online.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Woolwells and Cohls have recorded jumps in their sales

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<v Speaker 2>for the first three months of this year compared to

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<v Speaker 2>the last three months of last year. Woolwales recorded a

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<v Speaker 2>two point eight percent growth in sales compared to Cols's

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<v Speaker 2>five point one percent increase. The supermarket giants are facing

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<v Speaker 2>multiple inquiries into their business conduct during the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>living crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>Solomon Islands has elected its Foreign Minister, Jeremiah manale as

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<v Speaker 3>the new Prime Minister. Comes after the election last month

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<v Speaker 3>resulted in no clear leader and former Prime Minister manasse

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<v Speaker 3>S Sagovare announced he would not be returning to office.

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<v Speaker 3>Ozupm Anthony Albanizi congratulated manale on x, saying the country's

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<v Speaker 3>futures are connected.

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<v Speaker 2>And today's good news. There was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>rush at this year's Australasian Performing Right Association Awards, also

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<v Speaker 2>known as the APRA Awards. Troceavan's lead single Rush took

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<v Speaker 2>out the number one spot for the peer voted Song

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year. The twenty eight year old was also

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<v Speaker 2>nominated for a Grammy this year. For Rush.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Billy.

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<v Speaker 3>There are these huge protests that are happening on college

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<v Speaker 3>campuses around the world, but they started in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>Where did this story of protesting begin.

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<v Speaker 2>So the protests are over the Israel and Hamas war,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think whenever we talk about the war and Garza,

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to give some brief contexts to start. So,

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<v Speaker 2>on October seven, Hamas launched an attack on Israel, and

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<v Speaker 2>according to data cited by the UN, roughly one two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people were killed. Hamas, which Australia lists as a

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<v Speaker 2>terrorist organization, captured about two hundred and forty hostages and

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<v Speaker 2>today about one hundred and thirty three remain captive. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Israel responded by declaring war and bombarding Gaza, and according

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<v Speaker 2>to data cited by the UN, at least thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>thousand Palestinians have now been killed since that date or

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<v Speaker 2>of the seventh of October, and Israel's war in Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>has caused a massive humanitarian crisis there. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>seven months since the war began, there have been mass

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<v Speaker 2>protests all over the world. There have been protests at universities,

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<v Speaker 2>there have been protests on the streets. They have really

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<v Speaker 2>been everywhere. But this recent wave of student protests began

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<v Speaker 2>at Columbia University in New York City in mid April,

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<v Speaker 2>so more than two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, okay, so Columbia is where this story begins. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most prestigious universities in New York. Barack

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<v Speaker 3>Obama is one of the alumni of that col what's

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<v Speaker 3>happened there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you haven't heard of Columbia University, you have

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<v Speaker 2>definitely heard of many of its graduates. It's a very

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<v Speaker 2>prestigious university over there. So on the eighteenth of April,

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<v Speaker 2>more than a hundred students were arrested after they refuse

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<v Speaker 2>to vacate an encampment on the campis Can I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stop you there? Encampment? That word's been everywhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines. What does it actually mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was looking at Google trends the other day

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<v Speaker 2>and what does encampment mean was one of the top trends.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a word that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's everywhere at the moment, and it basically is just

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<v Speaker 2>a group of tents that students are setting up on

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<v Speaker 2>university lawns and they are sleeping there. So they have

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<v Speaker 2>been sleeping there for more than two weeks now. So

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<v Speaker 2>students at Columbia University, for example, have been sleeping on

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<v Speaker 2>the lawns of their UNI for more than two weeks now.

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<v Speaker 3>So these encampments were set up on the eighteenth of

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<v Speaker 3>April at Columbia University. It's now the third of May.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happened between then and now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the protests have really only intensified since then. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a massive story this week. It's been the leading

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<v Speaker 2>story of the New York Times. So this week, students

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<v Speaker 2>forcefully occupied one of the halls on campus, the Hamilton Hall,

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<v Speaker 2>which is actually a really well known hall for several

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<v Speaker 2>protests that have happened there over centuries, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>completely vandalized and blockaded, and the UNI put out statement

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<v Speaker 2>saying that well, they said that they had no choice

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<v Speaker 2>but to reach out to the police, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>when riot police were actually brought in to clear the building,

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<v Speaker 2>and they arrested dozens of people. In the process of

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<v Speaker 2>that happening and it being cleared out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty remarkable vision.

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<v Speaker 3>It was being live streamed kind of by most news outlets,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was police wearing like full gear in these

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<v Speaker 3>huge trucks coming and coming face to face with student protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>It was quite remarkable vision.

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<v Speaker 2>And the UNI has also released a statement saying that

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<v Speaker 2>students who were part of that will possibly face expulsion.

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<v Speaker 2>So tensions are very high, I think is probably an understatement,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, And Joe Biden, the US President, also

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<v Speaker 2>weighed in. A spokesperson for him said that forcibly taking

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<v Speaker 2>over a building on campus is absolutely the wrong approach.

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<v Speaker 3>And so in this instance, these protesters were met by police,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically the NYPD. There's been quite a lot of discussion

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<v Speaker 3>around what that interaction between police and protesters looked, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do we know about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there has been this conversation of police violence,

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<v Speaker 2>and there have been several reported incidents of police violence

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<v Speaker 2>that have come from students who have been at the protests.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the organizers in Colombia, for example, they said

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<v Speaker 2>that multiple students were injured by police and had to

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<v Speaker 2>be taken to hospital. They also said that some students

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<v Speaker 2>had emerged with swollen faces from being kicked repeatedly and

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<v Speaker 2>also from getting tackled to the ground. So some really

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<v Speaker 2>concerning incidents there. So those are some of the reports

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<v Speaker 2>that we've heard about police violence. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't heard directly from the New York Police Department

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<v Speaker 2>or from universities verifying the situation from their perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there will still be a lot there to unpack.

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<v Speaker 3>As you know, this is still a fairly fresh story,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm sure we'll be talking about that for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just Colombia though, where this has happened. It's

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<v Speaker 3>happened across the country and now in fact across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How has this grown, this movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's grown massively. I mean, students are now protesting

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<v Speaker 2>at around fifty other university campuses in the US and

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<v Speaker 2>also in Canada. Some of the universities include Harvard, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure many listeners are familiar without one, Yale, and Johns

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<v Speaker 2>Hopkins as well, and CNN reports that more than a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand students have now been arrested across the US in

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<v Speaker 2>at least twenty one states. So this has spread a

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<v Speaker 2>lot across the country, and some universities have also actually

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<v Speaker 2>had to cancel graduations ceremonies, including the University of Southern California,

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<v Speaker 2>in the wake of these protests and as they are ongoing,

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<v Speaker 2>and like we mentioned, above. A lot of these protests

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<v Speaker 2>are taking the form of encampments. These aren't just the

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<v Speaker 2>usual protests that we often see. They are literally camping

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<v Speaker 2>on the lawns and sleeping there. And the students have

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<v Speaker 2>been extremely clear that they are saying they will not

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<v Speaker 2>end this will not stop until their demands are met.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is one student from Columbia speaking to the media

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<v Speaker 2>earlier this week. We will not be moved by these

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<v Speaker 2>intimidation tactics.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see outside you now that these students aren't mobilized.

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<v Speaker 1>There's hundred complems here today. They will not be moved.

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<v Speaker 1>We demand divestments. We will not be moved and left

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<v Speaker 1>by force.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get into what exactly the demands of

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<v Speaker 3>these protesters are, because you've just said that they don't

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<v Speaker 3>plan to leave, or they will try not to leave

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<v Speaker 3>until those demands are met.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually talk about what it is they are pushing for here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, as you heard in that clip, what they

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<v Speaker 2>are asking for is divestment.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So they are wanting their universities to divest from which

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<v Speaker 2>just means stop investing funds in companies that are linked

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<v Speaker 2>to Israel. Now, like I mentioned, there are fifty different

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<v Speaker 2>unis facing these demands from these students. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to go into the responses from every single one

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<v Speaker 2>of those fifty universities. But let's again, we've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Columbia University a lot because that's where it started.

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<v Speaker 2>It has said that it will not divest from Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>but it did say that it will expedite a review

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<v Speaker 2>into the matter. So they're saying that they'll look into it,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're absolutely not making any promises. But one example

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<v Speaker 2>of a university that has reached an agreement with the

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<v Speaker 2>students is at Brown University, and they have reached a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty rare agreement with the protesters. They announce that its

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<v Speaker 2>leaders have agreed to discuss and they then later will

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<v Speaker 2>vote on whether or not to divest funds from companies

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<v Speaker 2>connected to Israel. And as a result of that agreement,

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<v Speaker 2>the protesters have stopped their encampment on their campus.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think just good to note that there isn't

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<v Speaker 3>this one body that is organizing all of these different encampments.

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<v Speaker 3>They are all slightly varied. They're being organized locally on campuses.

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<v Speaker 3>So while the demands are broadly the same, there are

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<v Speaker 3>a few variations between them. I do want to turn

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<v Speaker 3>out to some incidents of anti Semitism that have occurred

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<v Speaker 3>on college campuses. What can you tell me about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there have been many reports of anti Semitism occurring

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<v Speaker 2>during these protests. Video showed Jewish students being physically prevented

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<v Speaker 2>from entering their colleges, and there have been some incidents

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<v Speaker 2>of assaults on Jewish students as well, and many Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>students have said that they don't feel safe at their

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<v Speaker 2>university going to their classes anymore. Columbia University has strongly

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<v Speaker 2>condemned quote chance signs, taunts and social media posts from

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<v Speaker 2>our own students that mock and threatened to kill Jewish people,

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<v Speaker 2>and it said that many Jewish students have left campus

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<v Speaker 2>and that is a tragedy. And they've also banned a

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<v Speaker 2>student from campus due to their anti Semitic behavior. And

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<v Speaker 2>last week Biden condemned anti semitism on these campuses and everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that it was reprehensible and dangerous and that

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semitism had no place on college campuses or anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in our country.

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<v Speaker 3>Some very strong words, they are from the US President.

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<v Speaker 3>But as we've said, it's now not just in the

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<v Speaker 3>US that we're seeing these protests, it's also happening here

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are now similar encampments happening here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>There are ones at the University of Melbourne, University of Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>also a new in Canberra. They're also at Sydney UNI.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a colleague who was there yesterday and she

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<v Speaker 2>sent through photos of the camps being set up there.

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<v Speaker 2>So again it's spreading all across Australia now and the

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<v Speaker 2>organizers here in Australia are asking for a similar demand

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<v Speaker 2>to those in the US. They are asking for the

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<v Speaker 2>universities to stop their partnership with Israeli institutions. And another

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<v Speaker 2>thing to mention is that mcquarie University is quote working

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<v Speaker 2>to wholly understand what happened when one of its academics

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<v Speaker 2>ran an event at the UCID protests for young children

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<v Speaker 2>where they were filmed chanting phrases including into fada and

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<v Speaker 2>Israel is a terrorist state.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it's a really complicated topic and I know that

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<v Speaker 3>it's one that affects a lot of our listeners, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of university age students listening to this podcast. So

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully we have been able to unpack a bit about

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<v Speaker 3>where this movement has started, where it might be going next.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's it from us today. Thanks for listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the Daily os. We'll be back again on Monday, but

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<v Speaker 3>until then, have a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Aarunda

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<v Speaker 2>Bungelung Calcotin woman from Gadigal Country. The Daily oz acknowledges

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<v Speaker 2>that this podcast dust is recorded on the lands of

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<v Speaker 2>the Gadigal people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and

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<v Speaker 2>Torrestrate island and nations. We pay our respects to the

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<v Speaker 2>first peoples of these countries, both past and present.