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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Matte morning, Justin Davis, the Independence

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Speaker 2: Hey Katie.

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Speaker 1: We've got Selena Ubo, the Opposition leader. Good morning to you, Selena,

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Speaker 1: Morning Katy. And we've got the Attorney General of the

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. It's been a busy week

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Speaker 2: It's a huge loss to the territory. It's a huge

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Speaker 4: You know, we all know that our parliament is very

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Speaker 8: I was out a Nightcliff yesterday talking to some local

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Speaker 3: So now FAB nineteen exactly what those people are saying.

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Speaker 1: FAB nineteen is the date that people have got to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Katie, we're really proud to announce Ed Smelt yesterday

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Speaker 7: She's recognized that they can't do that, and I think

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Speaker 7: that you've outlined, we are very aware that we Labor

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Speaker 7: That's something that the Labor Party will do once all

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Speaker 1: Very Claire, who's the c LP running.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well we're going through that process right now, Katie,

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Speaker 6: Of course, how.

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Speaker 9: Do you even have anyone? That's my question?

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Speaker 8: Well, what I can say is it's imminent. I will

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Speaker 3: We are very keen to make sure that the people

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Speaker 5: Have been a candidates selected, has there been has the selected?

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Speaker 8: We are going through that process right now. It's it

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Speaker 8: which is very confid like the confidence in that because

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Speaker 1: Come on, Selena Nearly told me the other day, I.

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Speaker 7: Said, if Ed wants to put his nomination in it

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Speaker 1: Yesterday morning? Is you pretty well told me. Look, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, presumably depending on what kind of independent runs.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and we've seen really strong representation from Independence across

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Speaker 4: So I'm anticipating that in this election that there will

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Speaker 2: I'm not in a party, I don't I can't speak

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Speaker 4: The Thing about Independence is that they are standing just

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Speaker 4: from there and how that flows. Communities want representation, We've

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Speaker 2: They want there to know that.

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Speaker 4: Their issues are being stood up for in Parliament and

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Speaker 4: They're not about party politics. They're about actually standing for community.

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Speaker 4: And that's something that I hear all the time that

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Speaker 1: Just to ask Labor and the celpay, are you guys

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Speaker 7: Oh, Katie, It'll be interesting because what happens is once

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Speaker 7: not going to speak for the CLP ever I thank goodness,

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Speaker 7: but Labor Party will do some preference deals depending on

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Speaker 7: But once we do those deals within the party, then

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Speaker 7: that won't be on me, that'll be on our Labor team,

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Speaker 9: But it'll be quite interesting.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, I know people don't necessarily always like

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Speaker 7: in because it means no vote is wasted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie.

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Speaker 8: The CELP goes through a process as well where they

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Speaker 8: the people of Nightcliff are smart people. They can make

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Speaker 3: First, because the who's that for the it's the CLP, right,

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Speaker 6: The last one? Would you put the Greens ahead of Labor?

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Speaker 8: It's all about putting COLP one and then whoever. Because

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Speaker 3: What we don't want.

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Speaker 6: You recommend that the what we.

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Speaker 8: Don't want is to continue a failed experiment by the

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Speaker 1: Well, we are going to have to take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot happening politically, still plenty to cover on

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Speaker 1: the week that was. Well, it's been a massive week

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Speaker 1: And we now know that Susan Lee's well, she's spoken

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Speaker 1: a bit of a debarkle, Matt, it.

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Speaker 5: Is a debarkle, and I think that that's going to

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Speaker 6: And it's caught.

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Speaker 5: it's starting to look a little bit like I wasn't

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Speaker 5: going on is Anthony Albanezi, who, to be perfectly, I

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Speaker 5: don't think you did a great job of handling the

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Speaker 5: aftermath of the Bondai massacre. But you know, here we

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Speaker 5: are two months on and he's smelling like roses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is quite unbelievable given what we have seen

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Speaker 1: in this country really over the last couple of months

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Speaker 1: and the terrible tragedy that did unfold that I think

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Speaker 1: broke the hearts of Australians, and the coalition was more

446
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Speaker 1: focused on themselves and who was going to lead the

447
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Speaker 1: party than what they were on actually making sure that

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Speaker 1: the way in which the government responded was the appropriate way,

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Speaker 1: and indeed, you know, holding them to that. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really fascinating thing to observe, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually it's you know, it's it's going

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Speaker 1: to be an interesting thing to continue to observe because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, right from the get go, if you

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Speaker 1: don't have a strong opposition, you you know, I know,

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Speaker 1: the government's love being in power on large majorities, but

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Speaker 1: the reality of it is you very quickly lose sight

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Speaker 1: of what normal people care about.

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Speaker 2: And it absolutely doesn't serve democracy.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's the purpose of our eliment, like federally or locally,

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Speaker 4: is to make as I said, to make good law

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Speaker 4: for everyone democratically, and that means that a multitude of

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Speaker 4: views need to be represented. So if you've just got

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Speaker 4: one party dominating that can do whatever they want, that's

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Speaker 4: not that's not democracy.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Katie, like I wish Susan all of the best. I've

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Speaker 8: I've met her a couple of times, and you know,

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Speaker 8: she was a strong leader. But obviously they're going through

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Speaker 8: what they're going through now, and of course Angus Taylor

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Speaker 8: is now that lead Liberal leader and I also wish

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Speaker 8: him the best. I guess from the perspective you mentioned

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Speaker 8: about you know what people really care about and what

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Speaker 8: matters to them. I don't think Australians are sitting around

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Speaker 8: watching the news this morning like for hours and hours

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Speaker 8: and then watching all of this.

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Speaker 7: They're not.

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Speaker 1: But they're worried about paying their bills, they're worried about

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Speaker 1: the cost of housing, and they're worried about immigration. They're

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Speaker 1: worried about a whole raft of things that right now

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Speaker 1: the opposition's not holding them to account.

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Speaker 8: L Yeah, that's right, and I think you know, we

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Speaker 8: want to see a strong opposition no matter where you are,

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Speaker 8: because you're right, holds government to account. And so you know,

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Speaker 8: they will go through this and they'll they'll come out

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Speaker 8: stronger on the other end when when they do get

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Speaker 8: through it, And because it is important, you know, Australians

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Speaker 8: but and Territorians who we represent on this in this.

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Speaker 3: Side of here in Darwin and the territory.

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Speaker 8: They want to see a strong government, but a strong

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Speaker 8: opposition being able to make a difference in their lives

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Speaker 8: and you know, almost get out of their lives and

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Speaker 8: let them live it the way that they want to.

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Speaker 8: And so yeah, I look forward to seeing how it

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Speaker 8: unfolds and what the future holds. You know, we of

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Speaker 8: course we want a strong Liberal National Party and that's

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Speaker 8: looking like shaping up to be the way.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, it's always interesting, I think when a government

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Speaker 1: holds a strong majority, whether you're talking about locally here

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Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory or fedroal A, And what we've

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Speaker 1: got here in the Northern Territory is obviously the COLP

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Speaker 1: winning on a strong majority. Now. A little bit earlier

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Speaker 1: this week the COLP chief Finistere la Fino Guiaro did

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Speaker 1: announce that we'd heard sort of rumblings there might be

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Speaker 1: a cabinet reshuffle, but that was not the case. We've

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Speaker 1: got a backbencher reshuffle, or more so, I guess the

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Speaker 1: backbench is being given some jobs. Mary Claire, Is there

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Speaker 1: a bit going on on the back bench and you're

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Speaker 1: trying to keep people busy. Were they a bit unhappy

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Speaker 1: as well about the administrator's appointment? What's going on here?

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Speaker 8: I think it's really important that we've been able to

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Speaker 8: give everybody a very important role to play. I mean,

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Speaker 8: our backbenches are incredibly skilled, intelligent, they're very community minded

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Speaker 8: and they're out in their electorates, which is the most

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Speaker 8: important thing every single days.

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Speaker 1: Laughed Michael Gunner when he did this, rightly laughed.

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Speaker 9: Rightly called them gamm and rolls, rolls.

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Speaker 5: Questions in parliament of the assistant ministers to prove what a.

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Speaker 1: Fast these positions were.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was one of.

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Speaker 5: The greatest, greatest things ever done in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 5: Parliament because the assistant ministers wouldn't answer the question.

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Speaker 6: And now they're doing the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Come on, it is.

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Speaker 3: All we asked assistant minister questions. I don't thin you

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Speaker 3: can do that.

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Speaker 1: Well you couldn't.

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Speaker 6: That was the whole point, which.

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Speaker 9: I remember very clearly.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's really exciting to have, you know, the

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Speaker 8: fact that we do have a seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Strung Look, I think it's a bit of a joke,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I actually think it's a

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Speaker 1: bit of a joke that it's you know, I get

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Speaker 1: it that you want to keep that you want the

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Speaker 1: back benches to have a bit more responsibility. I think

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Speaker 1: that is a good thing in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: making sure that the team is engaged. But I just

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Speaker 1: feel like it's it's a bit of a.

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Speaker 5: Joke, is it disquiet within the parliamentary wing over the

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Speaker 5: David Connolly appointment.

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Speaker 8: We're a strong United team and I think we've proven

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Speaker 8: that over the time we've been in governments.

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Speaker 5: You know, I asked you that question three times at

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Speaker 5: a question but I asked, I think three times at

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Speaker 5: a press conference as if I support it, if you

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Speaker 5: supported it, and I did answer that yeah, but you

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Speaker 5: didn't say yes.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely support the administrator.

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Speaker 4: He's too rushed to go home and commit domestic violence

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Speaker 4: as the administrated the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 8: He is the administrator of the Northern Territory who has

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Speaker 8: been commissioned. You can't speak like that about him.

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Speaker 6: Whatever she wants.

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Speaker 5: It's a fast you can't say it in the Parliament,

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Speaker 5: but she can say whatever she wants to hear about

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Speaker 5: the administrator as long as it's not the Famtory.

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Speaker 4: You really cannot believe that people are being told that

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Speaker 4: they can't say what they think and what they're concerned

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Speaker 4: about in relation.

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Speaker 2: To their role.

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Speaker 8: I've been out and about as well, speaking to people

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Speaker 8: in community right across the territory, but in likely even

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Speaker 8: the other day yesterday, and this isn't what they're talking about, Justine.

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Speaker 3: They're talking about wanting.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to clarify that you do support

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Speaker 4: I support our.

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Speaker 5: I reckon you've been a little bit clever with words

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Speaker 5: there because and it's the same thing you said the

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Speaker 5: other day. Do you support the appointment of David Connolly

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Speaker 5: as the administrator.

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Speaker 8: I support the appointment of David Connolly as the administrator,

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Speaker 8: Thank you wholeheartedly, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I think that's deeply disappointing from the from the Attorney

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Speaker 4: General of the Northern Territory Mary Claire and Justine.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been very forward and like you've you've

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Speaker 1: really stood very strongly on this issue and said that

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Speaker 1: it is not something that you support and it's clearly

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Speaker 1: something that's being raised by people in your electorate. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's like it looks as though it's going ahead.

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Speaker 1: You and I had this discussion I guess a week

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Speaker 1: or so ago you also caught up with the Governor

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Speaker 1: General Office, yep, and and I tried your best to

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Speaker 1: you know, to sort of see whether there could be

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Speaker 1: some change in this space. It's not looking like there's

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Speaker 1: going to be, is it.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's still options.

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Speaker 4: I just want to let people know who continue to

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Speaker 4: contact me every.

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Speaker 2: Day, that this issue is not going to go away.

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Speaker 4: And the it brings discredit to the Crown, It brings

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Speaker 4: discredit to the institutions that they're there.

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Speaker 2: To serve us.

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Speaker 4: It deeply disrespects territorians, Aboriginal territorians, women, survivors of domestic

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Speaker 4: violence and so on. Behalf of all the many people

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Speaker 4: across the board, including many CORP voters, who are saying

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Speaker 4: this is just shameful and we're uncomfortable and it feels

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Speaker 4: unacceptable to us.

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Speaker 2: I'll continue to do whatever I can.

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Speaker 1: Look we're going to take. Unless there was something you

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Speaker 1: wanted to add, Selena.

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Speaker 7: Oh Okatie, I was just going to say that I

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Speaker 7: think the frustrations in communities when concerns are raised about

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Speaker 7: any topic issue, but particularly when we're talking about this

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Speaker 7: one around the appointment of the administrator, when clear answers

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Speaker 7: can't be provided to the community about decision making, about

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Speaker 7: processes that lead to a decision, and then processes that

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Speaker 7: could lead to an exit or a rescinding of a decision.

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Speaker 7: People get pissed off at that when they don't get

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Speaker 7: the information. But also if you've made a mistake, front up.

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Speaker 7: That's what people expect of their leaders. If you have

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Speaker 7: made a mistake as the Chief Minister, as the government

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Speaker 7: of the day, then front up. Listen to the concerns

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Speaker 7: of the people that you're representing, not just in your electorate.

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Speaker 7: A government has to govern for the whole of the

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Speaker 7: Northern Territory. Listen to the concerns right across the Northern

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Speaker 7: Territory and say that I've made a mistake. Maybe this

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Speaker 7: is not the best to decision for the Northern Territory,

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Speaker 7: and we're going to change it to make it better

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Speaker 7: for everybody.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take a really quick break. You are

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Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. It

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Speaker 1: is the week that was. You are listening to Mix

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Speaker 1: one O four nine's three sixty. It is the week

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Speaker 1: that was. If you've just joined us this morning, well

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Speaker 1: we've got a cracking lineup. We've got the Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Murray Claire Boothby, we've got the Opposition leader Selena Yubo,

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Speaker 1: we've got Justine Davis, the Independent member for Johnston, and

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Speaker 1: we've got Matt Cunningham from Sky News Now earlier this

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Speaker 1: week on Monday. A big issue that's been raised with

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Speaker 1: parents in the community on this show is the violence

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing on buses and also at the busing

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Speaker 1: to change now this well. These concerns followed a brawl

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Speaker 1: at the Palmerston bus exchange on Friday afternoon last week.

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Speaker 1: Shocking vision was sent to us of a fight which

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Speaker 1: turned into a group really having a crack at one

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Speaker 1: teenage boy. Now, there was a second video that also

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Speaker 1: emerged of a young person being laid into by another

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Speaker 1: while sitting on the bus. The parents who contacted us

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Speaker 1: said that their kids did not want to go to school,

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Speaker 1: not because they didn't want to be at school, but

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Speaker 1: because they were scared to get on the bus. Now,

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Speaker 1: to me, that is absolutely shocking for some of us.

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Speaker 1: That is the only way that we can get our

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Speaker 1: kids to school. You know, we are all at different

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Speaker 1: stages of our lives where you know, the juggle is

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Speaker 1: real in the mornings. The juggle is real in terms

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Speaker 1: of getting your children to school. If you've think got

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Speaker 1: one of your kids saying I don't want to go, Mum,

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Speaker 1: I'm too scared, that's mortifying because that's something that's totally

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Speaker 1: out of your control. I mean, Marie Claire, your office

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Speaker 1: is literally just near there. Were you aware of this

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Speaker 1: situation that unfolded.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was aware of it not long after it happened,

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Speaker 8: and just recently actually did speak to one of the

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Speaker 8: mothers of one of the children that were I don't

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Speaker 8: believe they were in the actual violence, but they certainly

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Speaker 8: witnessed very closely the whole thing. And that mother rightly, Oh,

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Speaker 8: he's absolutely traumatized that their child had to witness that,

660
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Speaker 8: And of course, you know, he is very scary for them.

661
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Speaker 8: And I know, I'm a parent. My kids catch the

662
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Speaker 8: bus as well. In fact, they catch the bus so

663
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Speaker 8: that very bus stop, and you know my office is

664
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Speaker 8: very close to that, and you know, for a long

665
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Speaker 8: time there were horrendous types of violence there. This is

666
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Speaker 8: this is the first time I've had to speak to parents.

667
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Speaker 8: A number of years ago, a similar incident happened where

668
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Speaker 8: a bystander had driven past, and the kid actually got

669
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Speaker 8: straight into the car to get away from the violence

670
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Speaker 8: that was happening. So and that video itself like utterly disturbing,

671
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Speaker 8: Like I just it's sickening, Katie, absolutely sickening. And you know,

672
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Speaker 8: this is why we have been working so hard to

673
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Speaker 8: try and reduce this kind of violence is happening, because

674
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Speaker 8: we want our kids to be able to go to

675
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Speaker 8: school safely, you know, be able to have a day

676
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Speaker 8: of learning without the trauma of thinking about how they're

677
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Speaker 8: going to get there or home safely. And you know,

678
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Speaker 8: I know our Minister for Education was really strong when

679
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Speaker 8: she spoke to you earlier in the week Katie about

680
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Speaker 8: some of the action that's been taken. But you know

681
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Speaker 8: those police officers, you know they are now at the

682
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Speaker 8: bus stop during those busy times for school because that

683
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Speaker 8: does provide that, you know, feeling of being safe for

684
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Speaker 8: the kids and when the parents are waiting there to

685
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Speaker 8: pick them up. And so you know, we'll just we've

686
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Speaker 8: got to keep working at it though, because we don't

687
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Speaker 8: want our kids to feel unsafe going to And we.

688
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Speaker 1: Did get a bit of an update from the Minister's office.

689
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Speaker 1: She spoke to us earlier in the week, but we

690
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Speaker 1: know that Education have now met with DLI and agreed

691
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Speaker 1: that they will deploy school attendance officers on the school

692
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Speaker 1: routes from Rosebery and Driver to the depot and then

693
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: handover to Transit Safety. From there. They will remain at

694
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Speaker 1: the depot during their usual mobile engagement circuit patrols and

695
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Speaker 1: action will be from I believe it's yesterday afternoon, but

696
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Speaker 1: could be a little bit earlier, or could be this afternoon,

697
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Speaker 1: and that'll be for at least a week now, absolutely needed.

698
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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's sustainable. I'm not sure, but

699
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Speaker 1: that's why.

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Speaker 3: It's so important.

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Speaker 4: Kay.

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Speaker 8: We're going to get our public police public Safety office

703
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Speaker 8: June or July, are Yeah, so we'll have to work

704
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Speaker 8: out what we're going to do in the meantime. But

705
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 8: you know, having we know that having that strong presence

706
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Speaker 8: of police who do have the powers to intervene is

707
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Speaker 8: really critical. And even with the School of Tennis offices,

708
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Speaker 8: I mean, they've been quite successful in terms of being

709
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Speaker 8: really proactive and engaging with kids.

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Speaker 1: Noting as well that at Palmerston High School. Then the

711
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Speaker 1: NT News reporting today went into lockdown. Then on Wednesday

712
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Speaker 1: Avo following a fight involving students and family members that

713
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Speaker 1: broke out on campus. Police had said now they arrived

714
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Speaker 1: at the school about two to eight and found two

715
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Speaker 1: students and five adults fighting, along with several children involved

716
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Speaker 1: in that altercation. Look, I don't know exactly what's going

717
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Speaker 1: on here, but I know that it's not acceptable. Kids

718
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Speaker 1: should be able to go to school, they should be

719
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Speaker 1: able to feel safe at school. You shouldn't have to

720
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Speaker 1: worry about this kind of thing happening. And you know,

721
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Speaker 1: they feel quite helpless, Like it's a worrying situation for

722
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Speaker 1: teenage kids to be looking around them wondering whether they're

723
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Speaker 1: going to get punched in the back of the head.

724
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Speaker 1: Not only is that so incredibly dangerous, but it's a horrible,

725
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: horrible thing. I grew up in Mount Isa, I know what.

726
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: Like it's real. That kind of violence is real. I've

727
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: seen it myself, you know, growing up in a really

728
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Speaker 1: rough public school, and you've got to make sure that

729
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Speaker 1: kids are safe. It's a duty for all of us,

730
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Speaker 1: I think, to say that it's not acceptable and to

731
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Speaker 1: make sure that there's some change.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely horrendous. I mean, I don't know all the

733
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Speaker 8: details of what happened at the Parmesan school that you mentioned,

734
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Speaker 8: they're Katie, but I mean if if there were adults

735
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Speaker 8: involved in that violence as well, I mean, that is

736
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Speaker 8: equally as horrendous, if not worse, because I mean, what

737
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Speaker 8: kind of example are they setting for those other children

738
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Speaker 8: around them.

739
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Speaker 3: It's not acceptable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, it's one of the many sort of police

741
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: issues that we have raised this week in terms of

742
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: different issues that they're dealing with. One of the others

743
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Speaker 1: is out in what Air. We know that there's been

744
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: days of violence out in the community, Northern Territory Police

745
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: earlier this week confirming that sixteen males in the community

746
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: had been arrested following fighting with weapons. Not sure whether

747
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: you've had much of a chat with Dran in terms

748
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Speaker 1: of what's going on out there and you know, a

749
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Speaker 1: way forward for this community.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Katie, to speak very regularly with Duran, and of

751
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 7: course he's across a lot of those issues, and the

752
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 7: pressure and the intensity is what's happening at what Air

753
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 7: at the moment, and unfortunately, you know there's there's many

754
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Speaker 7: years of this.

755
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Speaker 9: The people of what Air and the families, the leaders, the.

756
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Speaker 7: Service providers have put together a very thorough and thought

757
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 7: out plan and it's come together in a report. In

758
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Speaker 7: the eighteen months the CLP's been in government, they haven't

759
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Speaker 7: committed to making sure that those local solutions, those local

760
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Speaker 7: ideas from all of the clans, from all of the

761
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Speaker 7: service providers, is supported. So it would be great to see.

762
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Speaker 7: I think this is something we can work constructively with

763
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Speaker 7: the COLPA goverment. I know Duran's really keen as a

764
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Speaker 7: local member to see a commitment from the COLP government

765
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Speaker 7: about a way forward that has been led by the

766
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Speaker 7: community because it creates that dual responsibility Katie creates that

767
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Speaker 7: account of bit not just from community members but service providers.

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Speaker 9: I've seen the report.

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Speaker 7: I think it's you know, it's been quite a few

770
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Speaker 7: years in the making, but offers and provide some very

771
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Speaker 7: practical solutions. We just need to see it undertaken by

772
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Speaker 7: the CLP government so that they can really support some

773
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Speaker 7: of the processes that have been driven by the community.

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Speaker 7: Nothing in the last eighteen months since they've been in government.

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Speaker 1: Microphones in front of her now justin well choose one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, and I think exactly as Selena said, the

777
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Speaker 4: community is coming up with solutions I've also had you know,

778
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Speaker 4: I've done working around peacemaking. That was work I was

779
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Speaker 4: doing before I came to this job. I know that

780
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Speaker 4: no one as far as I know, Mary Cleay, maybe

781
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: you can you can correct this. No one from the

782
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: CLP has been to whatever since you're elected, despite requests

783
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Speaker 4: for is it right?

784
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: Is that?

785
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 7: So?

786
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: I know that there was a letter sent from from

787
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Speaker 4: the from the late community organization there to the Minister

788
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: for Families in November. It wasn't replied to until February.

789
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Speaker 4: I know that there's been cause for very specific things

790
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: that could happen that could address and deal with some

791
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: of this violence, and none of that has been responded to.

792
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Speaker 4: So I think I think it's really imperative. This is

793
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Speaker 4: a community that is dealing with things that we would

794
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: never put up with in an urban environment. For half

795
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: of this year already, for for three with this year,

796
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: telster has been out, they've had no telstra. We've we've

797
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: heard about the roads out to water and the impact

798
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Speaker 4: that that has on the community. I know there was

799
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Speaker 4: a suggestion when when there was just one road into

800
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Speaker 4: to try and set up a roadblock so grog couldn't

801
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: get in from the community a request to the to

802
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: the government to support that that wasn't answered. So I

803
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: guess that's a question to the government, where is your

804
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: commitment to working with this community to address what's happening there,

805
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 4: which they're calling out for help, and they've got some

806
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: really clear ideas about what needs to happen to address it.

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Speaker 8: There has been government members out there. I don't have

808
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 8: the exact details just see of the dates or anything,

809
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 8: but no, we are committed to every community across the

810
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Speaker 8: Northern Territory. And I know for a fact because I've

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Speaker 8: heard him speak about this publicly and I've spoken and personally.

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Speaker 8: You know, the police commissioner talks about this community a lot,

813
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Speaker 8: and they have surged in a lot of resources. Is

814
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Speaker 8: to be able to support them. The committed themselves. They

815
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 8: don't stand for the violence that's happening out there. They

816
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Speaker 8: want the police to work out there and deal with it.

817
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Speaker 8: And so that's exactly what we're doing. I mean, in

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Speaker 8: the main, I think I read this morning, Katie that

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Speaker 8: you know, there's many service providers that are either government

820
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 8: or not for profits that are still out there working

821
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Speaker 8: and you know every now and again disgustingly so the

822
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Speaker 8: violence erupts for that time and then it dissipates again.

823
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Speaker 8: And I think even Bishop Gauchi is still out there

824
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Speaker 8: doing some work, which is fantastic. So you know, I like,

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Speaker 8: I absolutely applaud the police for what they're doing out there,

826
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Speaker 8: and they are certainly on the ground and as I said,

827
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Speaker 8: surging more in because we do need to stop that.

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Speaker 8: What we haven't seen, though, is a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 8: Don't forget What Air used to have houses burning down

830
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Speaker 8: all of the time because.

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Speaker 1: They were too I think earlier this, I mean we.

832
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Speaker 3: Were talking, we were talking hundreds plus the millions.

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Speaker 9: Of that community.

834
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Speaker 7: But you look at the numbers, there's about three thousand

835
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Speaker 7: people in what Air and you compare that to a

836
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Speaker 7: place like Tenant Creek. Tenant Creek gets about forty plus police,

837
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 7: which is fantastic to service the Barkley region based.

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00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 9: In and out of Tenant Creek.

839
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Speaker 7: What Air I think it's and off the top of

840
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 7: my head about nine, you know, less than twelve, I think, max.

841
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Speaker 7: So where is the equity around ensuring if police, as

842
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 7: Marie Claire is saying, if police are tasked with doing

843
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 7: a really, really tough job, where are their resources where

844
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 7: is the support and if it's at crisis point, that's

845
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Speaker 7: where police really have the you know, the duty and

846
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 7: that they do an amazing job out there. But where

847
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 7: is the ongoing support for what happens after the crisis point?

848
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 7: Then subsides, that's what we're not hearing from the CLP.

849
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Speaker 1: We are going to have to take a really quick break.

850
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Mix. You are listening to Mix on

851
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Speaker 1: O four nine's three sixtieth. Now before we wrap up

852
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Speaker 1: this morning, we cannot finish the show without mentioning Alice Springs.

853
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Speaker 1: Yesterday morning. I tell you what that flash flooding. Gee,

854
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Speaker 1: it was intense for the people of Alice Springs. We

855
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Speaker 1: had a woman clinging to a tree for I think

856
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Speaker 1: around eleven hours. See, it ended up being some questions

857
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Speaker 1: being asked really this morning though about the whether the

858
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Speaker 1: Bureau of Meteorology should have issued a flood morning sooner

859
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Speaker 1: or whether there should have been more more sort of

860
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Speaker 1: information coming out at that point in time. I was

861
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Speaker 1: quite surprised. I was up at sort of four point

862
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Speaker 1: thirty yesterday morning as I always a going through everything

863
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Speaker 1: and then could see some of these reports coming through

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Speaker 1: about the flooding and I was on the Bureau of

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Speaker 1: Meteorology website and on the app and couldn't see a

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Speaker 1: lot of information, which was a bit surprising. Look, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know whether things could have been

868
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Speaker 1: done differently, but I know there's a lot of discontent

869
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: around the Northern Territory at the moment with some of

870
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: the rain radars that aren't operational. People worried about that.

871
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: I think we've really got to get this right when

872
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: it comes to the communication around any kind of emergency.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, Katie, that really helps territories to be prepared.

874
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Speaker 7: I know you can't necessarily prepare for a flashlight, but

875
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 7: thinking of the people in our springs and amazing work

876
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 7: that the first responders did in that long you know,

877
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 7: very tiresome, I'm sure, rescue for that lady, but a

878
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 7: really great outcome in preserving life and keeping that lady safe.

879
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

880
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 7: I've had some sort of similar things where we've had

881
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 7: rain gages that have been you know, not working in

882
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 7: my electorate, I've written, you know, I might get a

883
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 7: response two months later.

884
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 9: This is ahead of the excuse me, ahead of the

885
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 9: web season.

886
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 7: I get quite a lot of bridges and roads that

887
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 7: go under in my electric to ARNEM. So it's something

888
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 7: that I really keep a close eye on. But there

889
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 7: has to be those quick response and they're sort of

890
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 7: practical infrastructure things that can happen. I think, you know,

891
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 7: the Bureau of Meteorology, so many territorians rely on that information. Well,

892
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 7: you know, there's always criticism and something was up or

893
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 7: something shouldn't have been up, warnings were issued that nothing

894
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 7: happened in a warning is not issued and something does happen,

895
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 7: there's always you know, that time to improve. But you know,

896
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 7: particularly when there's those really quick, short shut weather events

897
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 7: that have that huge impact on territorians, if there's a

898
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 7: way to improve some of the information that goes out,

899
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 7: whether it's you know, those messages that ping everyone in

900
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 7: a particular geolocation, you know, maybe they could move to

901
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 7: something like that federally to be able to help people

902
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 7: be more weather resistant.

903
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: And weather really And look, I don't know whether it's

904
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: the Bureau, like Kathleen said that she'd heard on ABC

905
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: radio this morning that the bomb had said that apparently

906
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: the totty isn't their responsibility. So I don't know, but

907
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: I think that if there is a different you know,

908
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: if there is some ways that we can make sure

909
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: people are receiving that info as quickly as possible. I

910
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: don't know how or what changes may be able to happen,

911
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: but anything, you know, any of those changes that can

912
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: help people stay safe can only be a good thing.

913
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, And particularly when you're relying on you know,

914
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 7: measurements around bridges and you know certain areas of particular

915
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 7: meterage and then you know downstream is going to flood.

916
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 7: So like for me, that's really important my electricate. I know,

917
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 7: for people who are working in emergency services and who

918
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 7: are service providers.

919
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 9: Sometimes it means you can't get to work.

920
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 7: Sometimes it means you can't get out and shop because

921
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 7: you can't access some of those services. So I think

922
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 7: it's really important if there's a way that we could

923
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 7: learn from you know, the frustrations and what's happening, and

924
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 7: you know, the horrific flood that's happened flash flood in

925
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 7: our springs. It's an opportunity to learn, but it's opportunity

926
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 7: to do things better.

927
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie, it was a bit like you.

928
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 8: It's up earlier today morning watching what was happening, and

929
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 8: it's the same sort of thing. It was popping up

930
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 8: on my socials, but it did pop up with Secure

931
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 8: and Tea pretty fast as well. But I feel like

932
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 8: a lot of territories probably don't yet follow that, even

933
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 8: though during cyclone Fena that was the you know, the

934
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 8: go to if you like for that. So I mean

935
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 8: my you know, my suggestion to everybody is, whether you

936
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 8: like it or not, jump onto that Secure and te

937
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 8: They did update it pretty quickly and they did keep

938
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 8: everybody up to date with it. I'm stilling lots of

939
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 8: videos of just even locals updating on the Josh berg

940
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 8: On was out all morning you know, on his socials

941
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 8: doing the same thing, which was actually really handy because

942
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 8: there were many roads.

943
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 7: Yo.

944
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to wrap up. It's

945
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: ten o'clock. Matt Cunningham from Sky News. Great to have

946
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: you on the showers always. Thanks Katie, thank you. Justine Davis,

947
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: the Independent for Johnston, thank you.

948
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: Thanks k Justin.

949
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to park run in Nightcliffe tomorrow if you

950
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: want to join me. I know you're keen to do

951
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: five k, so we're doing it for fifth yes, park walk,

952
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: we might see you there. Selena Yubo, thank you for

953
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: your time opposition leader.

954
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 9: Thank you, Katie.

955
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 7: I did promise Ed that one thing I can't do

956
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 7: to support him is to go to park Run.

957
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna run, but.

958
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 7: I will be absolutely out there making sure that Ed

959
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 7: Smelt becomes the men for Nightclift.

960
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: And Marie Claire Boothby, thank you so much for your

961
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: time this morning.

962
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: Thank you.

963
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 8: And I'm sure that there'll be lots of orange shirts

964
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 8: so the seal p shirts at park Run tomorrow as well.

965
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 8: But I do want to give a shout out to

966
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 8: the Parmesan Magpies Football Club, Katie. They've got there seeing

967
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 8: his presentation on for our Saturday night and I'm very

968
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 8: much looking forward to go going out there.

969
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: Good stuff footy season Weld Finals coming up, pay mates,

970
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: exciting time, exciting time to be alive. We are going

971
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: to have to leave it there. News coming your way

972
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Speaker 1: in just a couple of moments.