WEBVTT - MASTERCHEF COOK ALI IS A FAN'S FAN AND WE TALK WHY! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.960 TV Reload the podcast last week. They might welcome back 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.039 to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.280 podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.640 in television. Each episode you will get a front row 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.560 seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, editors and 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.400 casting agents, plus the talent that we see on our screens. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.400 TV Reload reloads the shows that you are currently watching 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.760 and gives you a better insight at our television industry 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.720 and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have mastershef 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.800 of Australia's latest eliminated contestant Ali From the start, I've 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.760 been keenly watching Alie take on the competition. Her attitude 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.760 up until this point has been really endearing and I 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.320 did feel like she would go further. We will talk 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.680 about her thoughts on fans versus favorites, what she thinks 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.360 might have worked better, what might have been a better 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.400 final cook in the pressure test, and what is up 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.640 next for this super month. However, let's get started with 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.959 today's guest. I'd like to welcome Alie Stoner to TV Reload. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.600 And I'm really proud of what I did actually manage 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:09.320 to do on the show. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.800 Master Shaff has produced some of the biggest names in food. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.679 I would have loved a fan to win it. Don't 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:20.720 be fooled the first time ever it's fans versus favorites. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.200 Silent that one. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:28.399 Alie failed to correctly identify a French Sorrel's going to. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:29.880 Be the challenge for me. I thought it was going 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:30.480 to nail that. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.880 Unfortunately, you missed the target. I'm sorry, Alie, You're going home. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.679 Having been in that kitchen once, it's definitely an advantage 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.160 to know what that feels like. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.680 Hi, Allie, how are you welcome to TV reload? Thank 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.400 you for having me have you. This is a question 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.680 that I've thought about over the last couple of days. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.840 Have you bought an air fry yet? 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.200 My kids are like see, I told you they were excellent. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.960 I haven't bought one yet. No, a clear bit of 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.920 cupboard space, but you know, you never know what might 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.840 be on the agenda. The kids are going hard on it. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:04.360 Now. How old are your kids? 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.640 The eldest is twenty and the youngest is thirteen. 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.760 Okay, yeah, okay, that's they're good ages for air friers. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:12.880 And look it's a better alternative to sort of deep 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:13.440 fried food. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.560 Hey, well yeah, apparently apparently so I actually think they're 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.400 a great idea for students. They're brilliant of you know, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.919 if Maggie's going off too, she's planning and going off 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.400 to London next year, so I speket, we'll we're packing 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:25.200 her in air fryer. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.720 Well, it feels like it was really good advertising for 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.720 anyone that doesn't have one. I don't have one, and 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.959 we are now purchasing one today, So well done, excellent. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.560 Last night the show started with this giant black curtain 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.480 covering seventy three different types of greens. Have you now 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.040 got a fear of black curtains or green herbs? You know? 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.400 The irony is, of course, I actually have a green 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.880 herb wall in my garden. I would consider. I was 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:55.680 actually that was going to be the challenge for me. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.400 I thought it was going to nail that. I was 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.520 so devastated that everyone kept getting everything right. Surely somebody's 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.080 going to get it wrong. Surely it's not going to 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.560 come background to me. And then there it was. I 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.359 nearly died when Alvin got purple Kill, because that was 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.640 next on my list I'd had it eyeballed, and I 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.680 was going, right, that's going to be it. Purple kill 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.919 is going to save me this next round. And Alvin 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.240 goes purple kill. I'm going you are kidding me. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.960 Well, the elements in this competition that really do rely 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.600 on luck, chance and circumstance, do you think that can 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.359 be a little frustrating, because I think the green wall 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.720 determining you being in that final corp really frustrated me. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.160 Yep, it was very frustrating for me. I think that 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.760 the taste test or the identification challenge or whatever it 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.760 is is actually the worst one in that kitchen because 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.040 it's meant to be a show about cooking, right, and 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.680 this is like we might as well pull the names 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.800 out a hat. It's just that, it's just it's a 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.240 complete luck of the day. You know, you pick a 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.240 number in which order you go. Let's say I'd pick 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.960 number ten. I'm doing better off being number ten rather 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.800 than number one. It never would have got back to 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.280 me on that next round, you know, just all it's 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.280 all where you sit, you know, and that could have 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.240 seen me in the top you know, could have seen 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.920 me in the top five had stayed in but now, Unfortunately, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:09.880 it just wasn't my day. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.400 I have to say I always, you know, talking about 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.480 a lot of reality reality television as I do. So 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.880 much of reality TV is sort of luck, chance and circumstance. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.400 I mean, even for yourself. You think about how many 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.440 people apply for this show Master Chef and for you 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.400 to get this opportunity to be on this series, it's 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:28.320 still quite amazing. 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.880 Absolutely was blown away that I actually got on there. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.440 I'm so pleased I put in that application. I've really 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.359 been wanting to do it for years, and I also 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:36.920 know you I'll never do It'll never do it, I'll 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.039 never do it, And there you go. I did it 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.080 and I managed to get on. So it was quite 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.599 an achievement in itself, and I'm really proud of what 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.760 I did actually manage to do on the show. Until 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.120 that last minute. You know, Sod's Law, isn't it? I 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.880 make my worst dish on the elimination. Could it not 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.400 have been on the day when it didn't count? 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.000 Well, I can say that you stood out right from 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.359 the start, from the start of the show. You know, 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.800 you're one of those contestants that came to the forefront. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.760 I have been championing you throughout the show. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:03.880 So thank you. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.400 Great to watch you on the show. It has been fantastic. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.000 What surprised you the most about this competition when it 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.640 comes to, you know, the production of Mastership. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.440 I think it's just there's a lot about the length 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.520 of the days that I wasn't anticipating. Look, I know 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.680 that it's TV and they weren't going to be long days, 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.919 but the tastings, especially in the beginning, just took so 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.359 long but hours, and you're on camera all the time, 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.760 so you can't do anything. You just literally stand there 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.520 and you know, through the whole process, it's it's like 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.760 sixty eight hours for tastings alone. You're only cooking for 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:38.960 an hour and fifteen minutes. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.520 It's exhausting because you are aware of the cameras always 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.120 being around and thinking, God, what are they going to 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.600 catch me doing? And you know if you look bored, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.520 they can cut that into make it look like you're 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:50.920 bored with someone else's cooking. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.760 So you I know, exactly Yawn, you count Yawn halfway through, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.200 like you know, you're four hours into tasting, You've been 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:01.400 there ready for ten hours, you count Yawn just get 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.000 caught out you know, but what was really fun was 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.279 actually the whole Master Chef Live experience. So as much 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.080 as you know, your feet did get a little bit sore, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.520 there's a lot of standing, a lot of hanging around, 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.360 but actually seeing Master Chef Live, especially the days when 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.239 you weren't cooking, so watching from the gantry or something 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.599 that was just you know, that was so much fun. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.479 Actually there were also long days, but you can't beat 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:25.680 it watching it firsthand. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.160 Oh yeah, and you would have picked up so much 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.600 that you didn't know about cooking just from being in 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.279 this amazing environment with people who are like minded, which 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.280 you know, fellow contestant, did you learn the most from watching. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:44.039 From watching? That's an interesting one because a lot of 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.000 what you learn you actually do a lot of studying 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.120 on your own. At the apartment, and I worked a 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.240 lot with Steph. I was sharing a room with her, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.240 and because we have such different backgrounds, we actually learned 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.200 a lot from each other, you know. So we'd cook 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.320 dinner together and she'd cook a more sort of Eastern 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.360 approach and I come from a more Western approach, and 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.320 we kind of teach each other stuff along the way. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.240 So that's probably where I learned the most interest. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.720 What's something that Steph taught you? Was there something that 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.720 you've now got on rotation at home? 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.840 We no, we did. We kind of had a good 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.680 experiment one night making brick pastry. I never done that before, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.040 and so we spent a night both of us learning 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:22.920 how to make brick pastry and that was really good. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.320 And she showed me how to make like authentic sort 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.640 of restaurant star kind of picking up pancakes. I've never 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.560 made them before either, show me all the techniques for that. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.480 So that sort of thing was really fun. It was 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.600 really great learning stuff that we've never done before. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.000 What an amazing experience to get away from the kids 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:43.560 and the home and immerse yourself in an experience like mastership. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:44.920 It must have been quite surreal. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.360 Yeah, I have to say it's quite selfishly speaking, it 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.320 was actually really nice to you know, want to have that, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.680 you know, so when you're and your mom and you know, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.760 and I love it so much. I love being appearance, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.720 one of the best things I've ever done. But just 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.960 have the break from that and not have to worry 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.960 either that six o'clock you had to be getting dinner 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.520 on the table or you know, then you know, sorting 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.000 the kids out, or doing the school runs or you know, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.560 the sport runs and all that kind of stuff. Get 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.160 just that everything being life kind of been put on 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.760 pause effectively, and you're kind of living in this little 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.679 dream Steed. It was actually really nice. Couldn't have obviously 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.440 done that without the support of my husband. I'm the kids, 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.160 to be honest, they were really fantastic at letting me 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.559 do that. But it's very unusual that at my point 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.680 in life you can take that time out and be 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.800 quite selfish in your pursuit of your passion. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.080 Well, speaking about being selfish, because I don't mind telling 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.600 people to be selfish every now and again. You know, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.440 how did you feel about this sort of All Stars 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.240 version against Fate? You know, this whole fans versus favorites 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.960 with this version, because at times I felt like the 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.400 competition might have been a little unfairly balanced. Could you 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.280 have wanted this season to have been or should they 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.120 have just had it full all Stars with only returning 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.679 people and then you know, like a fans series after that? 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.080 You know what sort of thoughts were going through your 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:05.600 mind when it came to this year's theme. 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.160 Yeah, I've got quite mixed feelings about it, because on 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.439 one hand, it was really fantastic to meet all these 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.880 people that we've watched over the years, and I think 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.480 what was the unfortunate thing was for us that we 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.360 didn't get to learn more from them. Everyone assumes that 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.520 we must have learned more from them. But because there 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.160 was the divide was created into these teams, it meant 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.880 that the Fans team was kind of we all got 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.080 very close and we all cooked a lot together, and 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.480 the Favorites team all got very close and they cooked together. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.560 And it took quite a long time socially for that 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:39.560 to blend. And I think that somebody had mentioned on 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.959 a social media platform, how good would it have been 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.560 been a bit more mentorships. So so we've been paired 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.440 up with the with the Favorites, and we cooked as 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.520 a team in that way in like partnerships. Then you know, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.760 you could have cooked with somebody different every week. You 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.240 still obviously have to do a single cook for your 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.280 elimination or whatever. But I think that if it was 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.959 to happen again in that kind of format, I think 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.199 it'd be much better to have it more combined from 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.520 the beginning. So actually, the fans actually learned from the 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.720 favorites because having been in that kitchen once, it's definitely 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.000 an advantage to know what that feels like. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.320 I think that's whoever put that on social media, that's 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:18.560 good producing. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.480 Get them on the show. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.040 I mean surely, yeah, you've got Jolly Goodwin's number and 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.000 Sashi's number and Minali's number, and you can be in 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.200 the kitchen at home and think, gosh, you know, this 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.280 is a question for Julie Goodwin. Can you call her 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:33.280 and ask you for advice? 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.760 Actually yes, I think they could actually, but they were 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.280 all actually super lovely and very open and seeing that 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.760 there wasn't a lot of interaction between the wars and 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.840 maybe actually you reached out for help, they would. I 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.720 mean Sashi came down to her apartment and tried a 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.600 few things, you know, and Steff really wanted some feedback 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.520 on her standball, so he came down and he ate 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.240 some of that, and the same would happen, and Tommy 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.360 would do the same. And if you reach out to 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.440 duly should actually be super be there for you. So 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.000 it was they weren't like in the nicest possible way, 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.680 they were there for us. But I think it would 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.680 have been better if the show had been created around 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.280 us sort of emerging of skills. 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.560 Yeah, no, I can say that. You know, you've got 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.600 a seasonal box of organic veggies delivered to your home 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:25.120 each week, which was preparation for this season's Mystery Box challenge? 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.440 Was that a great way to prepare for the show? 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.959 Are there any other better ways that you can now 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.040 offer as advice to people who might be going on 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.240 master Chef next, like, what are the best ways to 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:36.080 prepare for this show? 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.760 I mean, look, I had done that without even the 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.840 intention of being a mastership. That's just I'd just done 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.840 that because that was a kind of COVID induced grocery delivery. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.840 But as it happened, it turned out to be a 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.680 really good way. But it is the way I tend 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.840 to cook because I don't tend to follow recipes, I 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.080 don't go with a shopping list of I tend to 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.559 repeat by the same things. And I thought, what was 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.760 really nice when you get a seasonal box delivered, as 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.840 you're only cooking with what's in season at that time. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.880 But it's not only as fantastic for the farmers, but 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.160 it's actually better for us as well, because you're getting 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.080 all the produce at the right term when you're meant 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.680 to be eating it, and then you can then you know, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.560 so like you know, my god, I a lot of 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.400 silver Beat for a while there, and so you know, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.760 I did google silver Beat recipes and that sort of thing. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.000 I might sometimes just google what was in there, and 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.000 it does help me think about food in a different way. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.200 Yeah, I mean, this is the one thing I have 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.960 taken away from watching Master Chef is the importance of 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.440 shopping locally and you know, shopping for fresh produce that's 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.600 in season. And I only have started, you know, bringing 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.840 that into the way that I prepare my food at home, 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.240 and it is it is a really I mean, it 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.480 seems obvious, but it's a really valuable thing to learn 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:43.400 about cooking. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.640 Well, it is, and I think it's really important, you know, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.160 in this day and age as well, with sustainability and 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.520 not having food traveling so many miles and doing what 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.200 we can actually you know, for the world and for 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.040 the planet. I think we're so used to having such 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.559 a consumer led lifestyle that we forget that that she's 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.280 you know, kind of back to all fashioned values and 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.120 the leasing what's in season of what's grown locally. I 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.880 think it's such an important message. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:08.960 I agree. I agree, it's so good. Now you're going 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.200 to have to bear with me with this because this 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.040 is really silly. But I get really annoyed with people 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.559 correctly pronouncing k noki, you know, with the Italian pronunciation. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.240 Am I mad for for being great? Greades on me? 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.000 Is it because I mean I can't say it properly? 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:27.440 Do you think I'm just jealous of the fact that 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.160 I can't pronounce How do you say it? I know 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.880 last night I noticed how do you said? 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:33.880 Did I sit in correctly? 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.400 I said, last night, you said it both ways? And 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.880 I was watching and I and then I thought, before 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.000 I spoke to you today, I rewatched those moments, and 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.240 you definite hold it knock at one point. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.840 Well, I said, Yoki. I almost said I would never 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.000 see gnoki or KNOCKI. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.000 I'm sure you did, Ali, I'm sure. I went back 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.680 and rewatched it this morning. And maybe it's just and 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.280 my Auntie whenever I see her, she knows it's my 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.920 favorite Italian food, so she always pronounces it correctly, And 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.080 I'm like, oh gosh, but I'm obviously mad. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.640 No, I do think it is quite funny. I know 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.160 what you mean when you when people suddenly are speaking 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.800 in the regular sort of dialect and then suddenly they 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:19.040 jump into pronouncing a word in the in the dialect 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.440 of the country that comes from. I know what you mean. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:22.360 It can be a bit weird. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.960 It frustrates me, but anyway, I'll go to therapy. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.560 It's definitely not knocky than no. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.720 I know. I'm saying it with my Australian accent. It 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.440 sounds so daggy and anyone listening to this mouse is 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:35.960 going to be like. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.080 God, everybody knows what you mean, though, so I think 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:39.720 it's all right. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:44.400 Do you think contestants with a pin should just sit 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.040 out of the challenge straight away and burn their pin? 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.480 Because I also find it interesting with this show if 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.560 they've got a pin, they start cooking, but they always 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:54.560 cash it in. Do you think that they should be 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.120 able to just sit out straight away when it's time 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:57.760 for them to cook? 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.520 Well, something that's changed. I don't know if you remember 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.200 the episode when Billy gave up her pin and she 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.560 did it before she started cooking, because back in the 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.440 back in the old days of Master Chef, that's what 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.160 you had to do. You had to make a decision 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:11.720 if you're going to play your pin or not play 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.760 your pin. You didn't have the choice to cook and 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.000 just kind of play around a bit and then just 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.000 kind of use it at the end. I do think 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.960 that you shouldn't be allowed to cook right up until 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:21.320 the end. I think you have to. You've got the pin. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.920 You either cook, you cook and you don't use it, 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.560 or you just give it up straight away. Otherwise you 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.280 could go oh yeah, oh yeah. But the thing is 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.280 that there is a there is a you'd have a 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.240 target in your back, and you have one, and if 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.680 you don't play it, then everyone just thinks you're like 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.640 super arrogant. So you literally there's no point in cooking 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.480 and not playing your pin because everybody thinks you're arrogant 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.640 for doing so you have to play it. It's kind 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.560 of one of it's almost an unspoken rule of Master Chef. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.440 If you have a pin, you have to play it, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:52.600 because who do you think you are? 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.240 I think it's a little arrogant that they're like that. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.600 They're like, oh, of course I'll start cooking and then 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.560 oh maybe ye I should catch in this pin, and 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.840 it's like, shut up, like you should use it. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.760 I know. That's why I had a lot of respect 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:08.560 for believing she did that. She said, I'm not actually 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.000 not going to cook. I'm going to use it because 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.200 in my season, you had to make the decision before 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:12.640 you cook. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.280 There were a few ideas with that final cook. You know, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:20.080 you had the orange in their Fennyl Hager's nookie. If 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.520 you had your time over, what would you have if 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.400 you had time, what would you have cooked instead? 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.920 Look, I can't tell you how much I've thought about this, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.800 and either would have still done in Yokie, but I 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.800 would have just kept up a bit more traditional. Maybe 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:43.200 a cavalanierro pesto pineut butter and some crispy kill leaves. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.680 In fact, I've made that and that's actually really good. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.720 Maybe some procuto. I probably just wouldn't have. I probably 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.640 would have kept the pearings a little bit more classic 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.360 and just on a bit of a touch of an 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.880 Alley twist. I think I just took it too far 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.040 on a cook like that, and I probably should have 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.560 known better. Just a green curry? Why didn't I make 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.320 a green curry? Could have done that? 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.480 Alie. They bring people back on Master Chef. Some people 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.040 get brought back, so you never know, this might not 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.280 be the end of your Na Chef journey. There will 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:17.240 be you know, fans versus favorite style season and you 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.000 might come back and get to cook again. Wouldn't that 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.200 be nice. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.560 I'm not sure they're going to revisit this format, and 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:23.560 I'm honest. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.720 Well, that's a sually good question to ask you. I mean, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.600 if you could choose next year's theme, what do you 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.400 think works best when it comes to Master Chef Australia. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.280 Do you think that this one has worked or do 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.720 you think that they should stick to always bringing in 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.440 new talent chef. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.720 Honestly, I'm not sure it worked as well as it 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.840 could have done. I just I think that, yeah, I 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.000 think we just mentioned it before. I'm not sure it 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.640 worked as well as it could have done. I think 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.680 it's quite nice to have the favorites and it's nice 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.720 for us to meet them, but I think probably have 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.240 been better off in a regular series with twenty four 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.879 new cooks. And I think that's kind of what Master's 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:06.040 Cheff was always about, bringing amateur cooks who love cooking 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.800 at home and having them rise to the challenge and 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.359 bring together dishes and have a sort of you know, 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.439 an experience where they grow and learn more about food 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.600