1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: And well, we have been talking a bit about the 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Fieries this week, as as plenty of you will know. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Joining us in the studio right now is the Assistant 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Chief Fire Officer. Well, hang on, I think I got 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: your title wrong there, Josh, who are Fisher? Good morning 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: to you. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Good morning kat Assistant Chief Fire Office. 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Oh I did get it right. Excellent. Well, it's always 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: good to have you in this studio. I will just 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: very quickly firstly ask you. I know that we had 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Mark Spain on the show yesterday and we did talk 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: about this situation that's been reported that there were comments 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: made by the CEO of the Northern Territory Police, Fire 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: and Emergency Services that have made some within the Fieries 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: feel disrespected. The union's come out and made a whole 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: raft of comments. 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Josh, were you there, Yes, I was there, Katie. 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: And did you feel as though, well, did you feel 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: disrespected by the comments that the CEO had made? 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's disappointing to sort of hear that there's 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: lots of hearsay that's been spread surrounding this matter. I 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: did not hear the CEO say the terms greedy or 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: anything related to that. Look, what I will say, Katie, 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: is that our people are the most valuable asset of 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: our service, and without our people, we can't serve and 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: protect our community. 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: So I am sad and disappointed to hear that. 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: People feel that they're not supported or valued, or that 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: they feel safe to be able to raise matters. You know, 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: this could not be further from the truth. Our people 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: encounter horrific scenes in devastation on a regular basis, and 33 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 3: we have a shared responsibility to support the physical health, 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: mental health, and wellbeing of our people. And the current 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: and ongoing rhetoric further exacerbates the impact of our people. 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: So do you feel as though you feel as though 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: you are supported? 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: Percent? 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: We're supported, and certainly I would hope that any member 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: within our service has the trust to approach myself and 41 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: discuss any matter that is affecting them within our service. 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: I'm approachable and I'll listen to any member, irrespective of 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: their role their rank, whether they be a volunteer, auxiliary 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: or career firefighter, I encourage them to reach out. And 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: this is also extends to our chief fire Officer and 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: deputy Chief fire Officer. 47 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think there'll probably be a bit more 48 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: political discussion about it, or a bit more discussion about it. 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to put you in a situation that 50 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's yeah. I don't want to put you 51 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: in a terrible situation in any way, shape or form. 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Obviously you were in the room though, as was Mark Spain. 53 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: I know that you've both now come forward and have 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: been happy to go on the record in this space. 55 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Now I do actually want to ask you about what 56 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: you came in to talk about this morning, and that 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: is the Firefighter Come and Try Day. Is it happening 58 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: this weekend? 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct. 60 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: We've got two locations, so we've got the Fosskey Pavilion 61 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: at the Darwin show Grounds and at St. Phillip's College 62 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: in Ala Springs. So this is our com and triday 63 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: for the physical aptitude testing where it allows people who 64 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: are obviously thinking about applying for the fire service the 65 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: opportunity to see if they are able to pass that 66 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: physical aptitude test or find out what part of their 67 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: fitness they need to work on prior to the recruitment 68 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: process taking place later in the year. 69 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: So how much what do they actually have to do 70 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: when they come and trial? 71 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: So the assessments consist of both fitness and simulated on 72 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: the job tasks, so it gives us an indicator of 73 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: the applicants ability to successfully complete the physically demanding tasks 74 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 3: as required by operational fire fight is at the incidents 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: that we respond to. So the physical aptitude test is 76 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: broken down into three stages. Where we undertake a simulated 77 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: jerry can carry, so that tests the upper body strength, 78 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: the endurance, grip strength, and shoulder stability. They then undertake 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: a stare climb carrying that jerry can, so again testing 80 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: their upper body strength, endurance, lower body strength and power. 81 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: Then we have a rescue tool static hold, so obviously 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: holding our cutting gear that we'd employee at rescues at 83 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: road crash accidents, and again testing members upper body strength 84 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: and endurance. We then have a repeated hose drag, so 85 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: that's testing cardiovascular fitness and again their upper and lower 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: body muscular strength and that sort of the repeated hose 87 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: drag is quite challenging, so that requires someone to grip 88 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: a five fighting branch or hose which weighs eleven kilos, 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: and then they've got to advance forward along a thirty 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: meter stretch of carpet and they do that complete in 91 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty meter distance in total, so they 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: do five five laps and there's a drag force of 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: twenty six kilos there. 94 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's hard. 95 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: It's extremely hard, very hard to do. 96 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: It had to be pretty fish. 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: I reckon to be a firing definitely. There's a number 98 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: of elements that we need. You know, it's not just cardiovascular, 99 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: it's strength, that's endurance, it's all of the above. So hence, 100 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: while we're getting in early getting people to come and 101 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: try this ahead of hopefully releasing later on in the year, 102 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: applications to come and join us. 103 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: How many people would typically it up to do the 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: com and try day. 105 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: Look, there is limited spots, so we do request that 106 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: people come in. They make contact with the Fire and 107 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: Rescue Service through fire dot Recruitment at PFES dot NT 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: dot gov dot AU by closer business Friday so that 109 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: we can manage how many people will be there on Saturday. 110 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: But generally we'll have between twenty to thirty people, sometimes 111 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: up to fifty people come in to test their skills. 112 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: Do people usually like do they find it quite eye 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: opening when they get there and see what's. 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: Required of them look one hundred percent. 115 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: And I was at our last coming Friday where there 116 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: was some extremely fit looking people that really really struggled. 117 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: Whilst they might have cardiovascular strength, that endurance, we're talking 118 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: about repeated tasks. We're then talking about reduced visibility, so 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: testing members you know, claustrophobia, We're then looking at their 120 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: functional strength. So there's a whole rasp of things that 121 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: we're testing and cardiovascular while people might be fit and healthy, 122 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: there's a little bit more to it. 123 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it. Well, I'm sure it will 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: be a successful day. Now. If people are after a 125 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: little bit more info, where can they head to again. 126 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: So if they go to email Fire dot Recruitment at 127 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: PFS dot NT dot gov dot au, if they email 128 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: their interests there and if they've got any questions they 129 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: can ask them, we'll reply back. Further to that, there 130 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: is a breakdown of the physical aptitude test on our website. 131 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: So if you head to PFS dot NT dot gov 132 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: DoD AU, if you go to fire Recruitment, you'll see 133 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 3: a whole infopac there that breaks down the whole element 134 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: of the recruitment process and in more detail the physical 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: aptitude testing. 136 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Good staff for Assistant Chief Fire Officer Joshua Fisher. Good 137 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: to catch up with you this morning. Thanks so much 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: for coming in. 139 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you,