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Speaker 1: Big Brother twenty twenty two, one of the youngest newbies
Speaker 1: in the competition, who I believe was strategically placed to
Speaker 1: keep the average age down of all the housemates for
Speaker 1: this season, you know, based on all the OG's being
Speaker 1: so old. Gabby played a great game and she was
Speaker 1: more than just her mermaid hair and a seat filler.
Speaker 1: We saw her relationship grow and change, but ultimately she
Speaker 1: was navigating what she thought was right and guys, that
Speaker 1: is why this podcast chat is fun, because Gabby knows
Speaker 1: exactly how to speak her truth. Gabby had a fair
Speaker 1: few challenges within her time in the house, one being
Speaker 1: Queen Reggie not quite buying into her game. Gabby was
Speaker 1: also the third wheel at times in this year's show mance,
Speaker 1: not always being sure on Tim and Estelle and who
Speaker 1: to trust, But overall she fought her way to the
Speaker 1: second last week of Big Brother. We will talk post
Speaker 1: show why Big Brother is like a Kenticki tour, who
Speaker 1: will win and who needs Doctor Phil at this point
Speaker 1: of the competition. However, let's get started with today's guest.
Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome the latest of Victor Gabby to
Speaker 1: TV Reload.
Speaker 2: Towards the end, I trusted neither of them.
Speaker 1: We've been through a lot together.
Speaker 2: Have woud we no one consider in that house on
Speaker 2: a moral high horse and be like I am squeaky
Speaker 2: clean this year it's.
Speaker 1: My twenty first birthday.
Speaker 2: You physically cannot play this pure game in Big Brother,
Speaker 2: and I've invited housemates both new and legendary. I was
Speaker 2: gobsmacked is probably the correct word. Will experience be enough
Speaker 2: to take on the next generation of housemaid? I said,
Speaker 2: Big Brothers like a Kenticki tour.
Speaker 1: Z is Big Brother? Hi? Gabby? How you doing?
Speaker 2: Hello? I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me Oh, it's so exciting to have
Speaker 1: you here. And I just want to start by saying
Speaker 1: congratulations on getting into the Big Brother House and doing
Speaker 1: so well.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I mean I'd like to say I
Speaker 2: tried my best. Definitely very exciting to have been lucky
Speaker 2: enough to be a part of the cast this year,
Speaker 2: but no, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: How did this whole thing come about? Because I mean
Speaker 1: I did do a little bit of research and you
Speaker 1: sort of said to someone in the media about Big Brothers.
Speaker 1: One of those things where you say you might do
Speaker 1: it all you might say that to your friend, but
Speaker 1: you never actually do it. But you know, how did you?
Speaker 1: How did you get picked?
Speaker 2: I know, well it's exactly like that, though. I feel
Speaker 2: so many people joke with their friends and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: could you imagine if I got on Big Brother? Could
Speaker 2: you imagine this? And obviously there's such a lengthy process,
Speaker 2: as you would know, and so many people apply, so
Speaker 2: you kind of it's almost as much as you want
Speaker 2: to back yourself and believe in yourself, you kind of
Speaker 2: do a little But why me, Like even when I
Speaker 2: got pitched, I was stoked and I was so excited,
Speaker 2: but I kind of was a little bit shook. I
Speaker 2: was like, I actually didn't think I'd get this far.
Speaker 2: Like funnily enough, my family, who were the absolutely most
Speaker 2: beautiful people in the entire world. However, they were a
Speaker 2: bit concerned about Reality TV, which is Big Brother. So
Speaker 2: I did my first audition in my local aquatic center
Speaker 2: car park because I had said to Mom and Dad
Speaker 2: I was in my car. I said I didn't want
Speaker 2: to have to tell them until I'd got on. So
Speaker 2: in my head I was like, I'll do the audition
Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens. The ball just kind of
Speaker 2: had to keep rolling, and then eventually I had to
Speaker 2: tell them, which was very exciting but very daunting. No,
Speaker 2: I just was in covid Lockdown last year. Obviously, I
Speaker 2: was cabin cru for Virgin Australia for two years beforehand,
Speaker 2: and life's very exciting being a flight attendant. You're constantly
Speaker 2: on the go, You're constantly on the move, So then
Speaker 2: to be very stagnant and still was very scary for me.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm always chasing some sort of next adventure.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was like, how did I get here?
Speaker 2: How have I ended up in this position? And the
Speaker 2: casting dates had closed so I don't even know then
Speaker 2: what possessed me to continue with it, because in my head,
Speaker 2: I'd believed that they'd already picked everybody they'd needed to pick.
Speaker 2: And then I sent my application away and I was
Speaker 2: actually in a career review with General Pants when I
Speaker 2: had got on a phone call and I'll obviously let
Speaker 2: it go to a voicemail, and then I remember listening
Speaker 2: to the voicemail and it was like, Hey, this is
Speaker 2: so and so from Big Brother, Can you give us
Speaker 2: a call back? And I was driving the car and
Speaker 2: being like, oh my god, try not to crash it
Speaker 2: at this point, but being like this isn't real, This
Speaker 2: isn't I reckon. I listened to it about five times,
Speaker 2: being like do they say Big Brother? Big Brother? Like
Speaker 2: I was like, is this for real? Is this like spam?
Speaker 2: But no, and like again, the ball just kind of
Speaker 2: kept rolling after that and was lucky enough to be
Speaker 2: part of this incredible season.
Speaker 1: Did you get a sense of what the producers were
Speaker 1: looking for in you? Well?
Speaker 2: So I can remember my in my audition tape, which
Speaker 2: I had spoken to obviously then Tully, and Tully was
Speaker 2: like I took forever to do mine, Like I wanted
Speaker 2: to really get it like done properly and just create
Speaker 2: like a really good video to send in. I did
Speaker 2: mine with my phone in my hand up like this,
Speaker 2: and I just said, I was just like, look, I
Speaker 2: think people won't see me as a threat. I'll be
Speaker 2: a typical twenty two year old that's sweet and as
Speaker 2: much as I am those qualities, but I feel like
Speaker 2: as well as a manager for General Pants, I had
Speaker 2: started a full time career straight out of high school,
Speaker 2: so I'd like to say to some degree, I kind
Speaker 2: of was a bit of a hustler and I would
Speaker 2: always be looking for some sort of opportunity to get
Speaker 2: like further, So that's what I wanted to bring into
Speaker 2: the game. I knew people would kind of see me
Speaker 2: as this happy, go lucky, which I was, but I
Speaker 2: also wanted to be some sort of game player as
Speaker 2: well as I feel like sometimes I don't come across
Speaker 2: as this very tom boyish kind of girl, but like
Speaker 2: I am, and I had grown up playing nearly four
Speaker 2: competitive sports at a state level as a kid and
Speaker 2: then through my teen years, so I knew that the
Speaker 2: challenges were going to be something that AI was going
Speaker 2: to enjoy and be be decent at and even in
Speaker 2: my Little Like promo video, I remember it said I said,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be dangerous until I need to be,
Speaker 2: And I feel it like that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that there was a complex character that
Speaker 1: I'm unfolded for us, you know, which was great about you.
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't just play the newbie role that
Speaker 1: I think that people might have essentially thought that you
Speaker 1: might being a little bit younger as well. You know,
Speaker 1: did you know much about the series? I mean, did
Speaker 1: you know who all these ogs were like when they
Speaker 1: were all coming in? Did you know every single one
Speaker 1: of them? Or how much of a Big Brother fan
Speaker 1: were you?
Speaker 2: As much as I respect all of them. I was
Speaker 2: five when Reggie won, so I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: that appropriate to be watching Big Brother, especially old school
Speaker 2: Big Brother, at five to sixty years old. So the
Speaker 2: last kind of season that I remember would have been Tim,
Speaker 2: Tully and Drew, because I would have been even then
Speaker 2: still thirteen and family won't crash hot on Big Brothers
Speaker 2: like the old days. So I can remember I remembering
Speaker 2: in the eviction room and I remember they said, in
Speaker 2: one more thing, housemates, and I look up and I
Speaker 2: just recognized Tim's curly hair and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my goodness, like and it just clicked. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is all Stars because we went in having no
Speaker 2: idea obviously, as we then came to such a surprise.
Speaker 2: But it made sense before going in because they said
Speaker 2: things like who won in two thousand and four? And
Speaker 2: again I was like, oh, I was five, I've got
Speaker 2: no idea, and they asked all these like old questions
Speaker 2: or like who won a million dollars? And it's funny
Speaker 2: because obviously now I'm very close with Trev and I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm only getting two fifty k, Like I
Speaker 2: want to go again, I want to rerun, I want
Speaker 2: the a million. So I didn't even know that it happened.
Speaker 2: So as much as I understood the concept, especially the
Speaker 2: new version, I wouldn't say that I was an old
Speaker 2: school Big Brother fan. And now obviously like I want
Speaker 2: to go back and watch everyone's seasons. I want to
Speaker 2: see how it went down, what their experience was like,
Speaker 2: especially because I think I would have loved the old version.
Speaker 2: It was just I feel like the social experiment was
Speaker 2: definitely more obvious, where this is so strategic. It's I
Speaker 2: like to say it's like Glamorous Survivor at this point,
Speaker 2: like there is so much into the madness. It was
Speaker 2: just insane. So I found it really odd as well
Speaker 2: that I eventually jumped ship. Well actually it wasn't eventually.
Speaker 2: It was quite early on, but they just had they
Speaker 2: knew their stuff, they'd done it before, and they were
Speaker 2: just more calmer about everything, which, obviously in a really
Speaker 2: hectic experience, I feel like I needed it to survive.
Speaker 1: Also, they were older, so you probably gravitated to them,
Speaker 1: being like, you're my new parents, you know, Reggie, can
Speaker 1: you be my mum?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Reggie Mami?
Speaker 1: Uh No.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was really sad. A beautiful relationship
Speaker 2: got missed between Trevor and I. Trev was like my dad.
Speaker 2: He was brilliant and he was incredible in the sense
Speaker 2: of again, reality TV is really scary. You don't know
Speaker 2: what's going to happen, what's going to make the cuts,
Speaker 2: what's not how you're going to be perceived. Obviously, going
Speaker 2: in you have an idea, but you still never know
Speaker 2: what that environment's going to test you to do and
Speaker 2: say and who you become, especially like again twenty two,
Speaker 2: like so young, I'm still learning so much about myself.
Speaker 2: So to have someone in there like Trev who would
Speaker 2: just remind me and like even after a challenge or
Speaker 2: after anything that would go down the house, he would
Speaker 2: just hug me and be like, your parents are going
Speaker 2: to be so proud of you, and like that's all
Speaker 2: I would need to hear and be like, okay, I
Speaker 2: can I can do this, I can do this. I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Italian Estelle, who became like big sisters, Drew who became
Speaker 2: my big brother. Like I was very lucky, and I
Speaker 2: have said previously, it was just nice to feel like
Speaker 2: protect it. Like I'm really close with my older sister.
Speaker 2: She was probably, other than my mum and dad, the
Speaker 2: hardest person to kind of leave behind for nearly eight
Speaker 2: weeks or whatever we were up to. But it was
Speaker 2: just nice to kind of someone said to me, whether
Speaker 2: it was a producer, if it was one of how
Speaker 2: well being people, they said, whatever you have on the outside,
Speaker 2: find it in there to keep you sane. And I
Speaker 2: think that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1: Well, that's so smart, I mean, that's you know. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: I met Reggie before I did Big Brother, and she
Speaker 1: was like, look if you get on, do this, this
Speaker 1: and this, and I did exactly what she told me
Speaker 1: to do. And one of them, yeah, yeah, one of
Speaker 1: them was I think she said she did the washing,
Speaker 1: or she did the dishes, or she just stayed out
Speaker 1: of the way. So if you were absent from the
Speaker 1: conversation for a whole day, people forgot to even think
Speaker 1: that you were a nuisance. So you could be a
Speaker 1: pain in the neck for six days and then just
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm just going to sit this day out,
Speaker 1: and people would forget to nominate you just go and hide.
Speaker 2: All that would have been brilliant, it would have been beautiful.
Speaker 2: Just go mind. No one can mind their own business
Speaker 2: and their big brother house, So that's for sure.
Speaker 1: No, it's too small. But you know, in hindsight, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people were talking about whether or
Speaker 1: not the newbies were worried that the ogs had sort
Speaker 1: of ruined their experience. You know, in hindsight, were you
Speaker 1: happy that there was a mix of old and new.
Speaker 2: For I think it was hard in the sense, like
Speaker 2: I can agree with it. It's been really hardest. We're
Speaker 2: on the back foot. They've got all this incredible fan
Speaker 2: base and really passionate people behind them. We're starting from scratch,
Speaker 2: we are studying. People are only just getting to know
Speaker 2: us now they've had Oh, I think Reggie has done
Speaker 2: like over one hundred days in the Big Brother House.
Speaker 2: She has one hundred days of character building, and then
Speaker 2: we're up to fifty outs, nearly one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: days of getting to know Reggie. It does put you
Speaker 2: on the back foot, but for me in the house,
Speaker 2: without them, I would have gone rogue. I truly believe
Speaker 2: I would not have been able to stand because the
Speaker 2: newbies played a really vicious game like it is. It's
Speaker 2: so strategic and everything's thought out their heart and head us.
Speaker 2: They are both strategies. I'm not saying that they're not,
Speaker 2: but one is a really brutal way to play and
Speaker 2: the other, again still a strategy. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 2: not strategic, but I just wanted to keep my friends in.
Speaker 2: That's all I wanted to do, because they kept me sane,
Speaker 2: and that's what the old school version was like. You
Speaker 2: keep the people you need to survive, however many days
Speaker 2: in the house so you don't go crazy. Because that place,
Speaker 2: with the minimal food that we get not having your
Speaker 2: support network. You need people around you that will help
Speaker 2: you survive where other Obviously the head game is like
Speaker 2: who will just keep me in the longest? Or how
Speaker 2: can I make this happen? Or Okay, if I get
Speaker 2: to final three, I can't be standing next to so
Speaker 2: and so because they're going to win, or which is
Speaker 2: it's understandable. I think it was really hard knowing that
Speaker 2: if we were in top three with the ogs, we
Speaker 2: had no hope in hell. But it was also like
Speaker 2: most of my friends were OG's, Like I got to
Speaker 2: a point I thought, where you make it to the
Speaker 2: top three by keeping my integrity intact and not having
Speaker 2: to put a vote on any of my friend then
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty cind like pretty content humans. So as
Speaker 2: much as it was hard to I guess get our
Speaker 2: characters to come to life. I love, I say, characters
Speaker 2: to bring our personalities to life. It was really hard
Speaker 2: in comparison to the ogs, but without them I would
Speaker 2: not have made it this far.
Speaker 1: Do you think that you would have gotten further? Maybe
Speaker 1: if it was just all newbies, Like do you think
Speaker 1: you would have made it to the end? Like how
Speaker 1: much did these ogs get in the way of your game.
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. Have I have no idea,
Speaker 2: because again, because I wasn't that strategic like the newbies,
Speaker 2: they might have got rid of me very very early on.
Speaker 2: They could have been like, nah, she's not playing our game.
Speaker 2: It's time to go. But then, obviously, the OG's reputation
Speaker 2: is so hard to like to overcome. I've never thought
Speaker 2: about it. I don't, I don't. I don't think if
Speaker 2: it was all newbies, I don't think I would have
Speaker 2: made it this far. I'm still convinced the newbies would
Speaker 2: have been like, nah, she's not playing. She's too busy
Speaker 2: drinking cordial by the pool and life, So no, she's
Speaker 2: got to go.
Speaker 1: Well, everyone's now talking about this final challenge from the
Speaker 1: you know your last episode. Essentially, I would love for
Speaker 1: you to unpack a few things in that last challenge
Speaker 1: which we saw you and Brenton and Estelle. How do
Speaker 1: the challenges positions? Like how do the challenge positions get distributed?
Speaker 1: So when you walk into that backyard, did you know
Speaker 1: you're getting put on that end one? Did you know
Speaker 1: that Estelle would be in the middle? Like, how do
Speaker 1: they distribute that?
Speaker 2: I think they I could remember certain challenges would require
Speaker 2: a little bit more from us. So obviously, like before
Speaker 2: we go in, we get measured up with helmets and harnesses,
Speaker 2: but obviously, like our weights and stuff changed throughout the experience,
Speaker 2: so they have to make sure that when they're doing
Speaker 2: certain these challenges are amazing. But my goodness, so no
Speaker 2: that I'm pretty sure this one has a lot to
Speaker 2: do with weight. Actually, me talking about it has a
Speaker 2: lot to do with arm strength and body weight. They'd
Speaker 2: all been organized in accordance to our weight, so obviously
Speaker 2: I didn't know walking in that that one was going
Speaker 2: to be mine. But then they were like, okay, this
Speaker 2: is how we've kind of, I guess positioned it all.
Speaker 2: So no, yes, it's pre positioned.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah. People were asking about that one online. Did
Speaker 1: you see Brenton drop the ball? And was there much
Speaker 1: talk about how that came about? Because he kind of
Speaker 1: dropped that ball out of the blue, so and then
Speaker 1: no one really asked him what happened. He just sort
Speaker 1: of fell down and was like, oh, I'm so sad.
Speaker 1: But then once that challenge had finished, did he say
Speaker 1: how that ball came down out of the blue.
Speaker 2: No, he talked about it back in the house in
Speaker 2: the midst of our scramble, and he talked about he
Speaker 2: was like, I was in pain as soon as we started,
Speaker 2: because obviously he's this really strong, muscular man. And I
Speaker 2: was like looking across and I was like, oh god,
Speaker 2: why did it have to be upper arms like anything?
Speaker 2: But this is like absolute kryptonite. But no, he just said,
Speaker 2: He's like, I just I'm done. He just said I
Speaker 2: was exhausted. He gues, I was in pain from the
Speaker 2: get go. He was surprised he made it that long.
Speaker 2: Even you see, like he battles it constantly, where Estelle,
Speaker 2: obviously Stay is super.
Speaker 1: Strong, so she's a challenge beastimental.
Speaker 2: Game is just incredible her mind. Once she gets it
Speaker 2: into that specific zone, you can't break it.
Speaker 1: Always say with it. When it comes to Estelle, once
Speaker 1: she has firmly planted the seed, the tree will grow
Speaker 1: and the trunk is very strong and you can't cut
Speaker 1: it down. And that is a good thing and a
Speaker 1: bad thing in a way, because once she has decided something,
Speaker 1: it's impossible to change. That's just as admirable in some
Speaker 1: ways as it is frustrating for others.
Speaker 2: Yes, when the trunk is planted in your garden it is.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. And again as much as Estelle Ohslei is
Speaker 2: a part of the reason I end up going home,
Speaker 2: I know that I probably wouldn't have become myself without her.
Speaker 2: I can remember early on, We're probably in day four
Speaker 2: and it's literally the loudest person of every friendship group
Speaker 2: in one place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so naturally being.
Speaker 2: The loudest in mine, I found it really hard to
Speaker 2: find my feet. I was like, oh, well, I'm not
Speaker 2: this and I'm not that, Like what am I doing
Speaker 2: here and trying to find I guess the reason you
Speaker 2: will put in there? And I still grabbed me and
Speaker 2: she was like, you just don't seem like yourself, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't feel like myself, not that
Speaker 2: you ever want to go home, but you I just
Speaker 2: had realized how like day four in I was like,
Speaker 2: this is hard, and she just said, you just need
Speaker 2: to understand that the audience will see you and you
Speaker 2: just need to be yourself and if you like yourself
Speaker 2: and your friends like yourself, the audience will too. And
Speaker 2: I'm again sound that that got missed because it really
Speaker 2: showed I guess how the ogs have done it before
Speaker 2: and how they were this calming nature to some of
Speaker 2: us movies. But no, Estelle when she makes when she
Speaker 2: makes up her mind, whether she's she goes. You know what,
Speaker 2: I'm going to win this challenge.
Speaker 1: Yes, game over, it's done, You're all destroyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's game over. So No, for most of the experience,
Speaker 2: I was very lucky that she would constantly have my
Speaker 2: back and be like, no, we need Gabby, we need Gabby,
Speaker 2: we need Gabby. So while I had while I had
Speaker 2: her in my corner, I was very lucky.
Speaker 1: Until I didn't, Well, until you didn't, but you know,
Speaker 1: you did always manage to have the best hair in
Speaker 1: the house, and so that is, you know, when you've
Speaker 1: got Mermaid hair, I think is what Tully was calling it.
Speaker 1: Who cares whether you go home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I feel like I've had a
Speaker 2: lot of people in my dms asking about the hair routine,
Speaker 2: how I curl it, how I style it, so which
Speaker 2: is really funny because again sometimes in the house, like
Speaker 2: and I'm naturally, as we've seen in every exit interview,
Speaker 2: I am the messiest person in the entire world.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to that in the minute of
Speaker 1: my friend. Let me tell you, I just want to
Speaker 1: finish unpacking this one thing. And you know, in the scramble,
Speaker 1: you kind of had a choice. Do you stick with
Speaker 1: a trusty washing machine or do you buy a new
Speaker 1: one because I always believe they don't make white goods
Speaker 1: like they used to. Sorry about the what do you
Speaker 1: call these? The analogy? Sorry about the analogy here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: where we're going, But fundamentally, what do you think do
Speaker 1: you stick with a trustee relationship or do you try
Speaker 1: and build a new one. I kind of felt like
Speaker 1: that's where you were in your final moments. In that
Speaker 1: final scramble.
Speaker 2: It was really hard. It was it's a torn because
Speaker 2: there's so many little numbers left. It's you're also trying
Speaker 2: to please everybody, and you are making promises you can't keep.
Speaker 2: So I would know that the newbies would want certain
Speaker 2: people out and I would be like, I'm here for it,
Speaker 2: And then I'd be like to the ogs, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm here for this because you just need the votes.
Speaker 2: It's really sad scrambling, which I remember being asked, how
Speaker 2: are you going to cope with this? And I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hate it. I am such a if you
Speaker 2: love me, cool if you don't also cool each to
Speaker 2: your own, so to literally be begging people to keep
Speaker 2: you somewhere, it was it was so cringe. I just
Speaker 2: couldn't stand it. So it was really hard trying to
Speaker 2: be like, okay, well, ogs have been so loyal, so
Speaker 2: so loyal, and then it's like newbies, it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: guys remember me, Yeah, we can we rebuild this or.
Speaker 1: Is it too late to start? This is what I
Speaker 1: should have said, yeah, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2: The damage been done here, like sorry, I sent your
Speaker 2: mate home. But yeah, So it was it was a
Speaker 2: really fine line of trying to be like you become
Speaker 2: desperate and it's such a quality, but you just you're
Speaker 2: trying to be like, well I just need the boats,
Speaker 2: and at that point, like nobody was almost giving me
Speaker 2: straight handswasn't everybody does the whole I haven't made up
Speaker 2: my mind at the end of this. At this point
Speaker 2: to end, you have just tell me, tell me the truth.
Speaker 2: So I know it was it was. It was definitely
Speaker 2: really hard, but it was that like I'm trying to
Speaker 2: please everybody, like just keep me here.
Speaker 1: People did try to tell you the truth in a way,
Speaker 1: but as you said before, nearly every single person that
Speaker 1: I've spoken to hers said that you were the laziest
Speaker 1: and the messiest house mate that was in there. What
Speaker 1: do you have to say to all those cheeky buggets
Speaker 1: for saying that about you?
Speaker 2: Here are the cheeky buggers. Lazy, absolutely not. I was
Speaker 2: running around that house messiest, absolutely absolutely, there is absolutely
Speaker 2: no denying it. But laziest is a hard call, as
Speaker 2: I would cook a lot. I'm a cooker, I'm not
Speaker 2: a cleaner, so Reggie and I would be in the
Speaker 2: kitchen quite a bit. Like obviously, I feel like you
Speaker 2: barely see it because all you do is see Reggie.
Speaker 2: But she will back me for that. I would like
Speaker 2: to say. But messist, oh yeah, shit was everywhere from
Speaker 2: the bedrooms to the bathrooms to Yeah. I was gonna
Speaker 2: say the laziest HOUSEMATEE would be JC. That is little
Speaker 2: side side well.
Speaker 1: He said that the other day. I've already spoken to him.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to ask you the top ten questions
Speaker 1: when we get to the end of this. So you've
Speaker 1: got to go right of reply, my friend. You will
Speaker 1: get can't.
Speaker 2: I can't wait? But no, like I can remember, we're
Speaker 2: in today twenty one and I walk out and Trevor's like,
Speaker 2: have you washed any of your clothes yet? And I
Speaker 2: was like nah. He's like, Gabby wear three weeks into
Speaker 2: this experience and I was like, but I have lots
Speaker 2: of clothes and he was like, go to your room,
Speaker 2: go put some washing on. And then again, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I trotted back and he was like, how
Speaker 2: are you back? And I was like, oh, Johnson's doing it.
Speaker 2: So Johnson said he'd do it. Johnson was like this
Speaker 2: borderline just dad energy, and I'd be like, but what
Speaker 2: does this do? Like what is this button? And he
Speaker 2: was like I'll do it. I'll do it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, fair enough, fair enough, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: argue with that.
Speaker 1: You know, you had this amazing friendship that we saw
Speaker 1: that was platonic as far as everyone could tell from
Speaker 1: around Australia watching the show. How did it feel that
Speaker 1: Sam eluded that you had a secret crush on your
Speaker 1: friend Drew.
Speaker 2: It was one of those moments that you kind of
Speaker 2: it's like where time freezes and you're just like blinking
Speaker 2: and you're like, did I hear that? Ryan? Did this
Speaker 2: just happen? And the way that it looked was as
Speaker 2: if it was just Sam and I there, but originally
Speaker 2: there were two other housemates across from us, And again,
Speaker 2: you keep your cards really close to your chest, so
Speaker 2: I didn't want them to know that I was keeping
Speaker 2: Sam because they had originally said they wanted to keep Lulu.
Speaker 2: So you don't want to tell people where their heads at.
Speaker 2: So I get in her scramble of desperation to just
Speaker 2: word vomit. But it was just one of those moments
Speaker 2: are you about to laugh? Is this a joke? Are
Speaker 2: we kidding? And then to obviously find out that she
Speaker 2: was being dead serious, one of those moments of like
Speaker 2: in what world? In what world? Which is almost ironic
Speaker 2: as well, because she she focuses on friendships and relationships
Speaker 2: and the fact that she read this awfully wrong. I
Speaker 2: just I was gobsmacked is probably the correct word, which
Speaker 2: again you didn't really get to see afterwards. But Drew
Speaker 2: was again such a just as much as he was
Speaker 2: this bad boy energy. He hugged me and he was like,
Speaker 2: I'm actually really proud of you for standing up for yourself,
Speaker 2: which was pretty awesome because I was like, well, here
Speaker 2: goes at friendship, Like I was like, guilty of my association.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not talking to you anymore, Drew,
Speaker 2: you're done, I'll send you home. But no, he was
Speaker 2: pretty awesome about it, which again didn't really get shown.
Speaker 2: But because Sam and I were close, I wasn't just
Speaker 2: friends with her because of Drew. So when she said that,
Speaker 2: I think I kind of worked out. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you don't like me as much as I thought,
Speaker 2: because if you can just say that, yeah, I am
Speaker 2: such a life. I put friendships on pedestals, and so
Speaker 2: me like hanging out with her and Drew predominantly the time,
Speaker 2: but so would everybody, but again, being close with them both,
Speaker 2: we would spend time together, and then for that to
Speaker 2: be said it almost made me then uncomfortable. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh maybe our maybe our time is up. And then
Speaker 2: obviously to rehash it, like every everything got put, everything
Speaker 2: got squashed down. She was like, I'm sorry, I didn't
Speaker 2: mean it, like I was just like desperate in my scramble.
Speaker 2: And then obviously we got the hackers question and it
Speaker 2: got asked again, and even the whole house was like,
Speaker 2: this was her opportunity to laugh it off, to like
Speaker 2: kind of dig herself out of this grave, but she
Speaker 2: just dug herself further.
Speaker 1: You did say though, that Drew was your older brother,
Speaker 1: so like, you don't get.
Speaker 2: Me wrong, Drew the heart throb that he was nine
Speaker 2: years ago. I think it was Drew and I are
Speaker 2: twelve years apart. If that's your vibe. However, I feel
Speaker 2: like love Drew his life is. We're at different points,
Speaker 2: at very very different points of life. So yeah, it
Speaker 2: was it just it made everything really uncomfortable then, So
Speaker 2: I think it was lucky because of close Drew and
Speaker 2: I were that we both just were like, what what
Speaker 2: is this? What is this chick on about?
Speaker 1: Still fairly juicy, and you know, jac said he predicts
Speaker 1: that there's going to be quite a bit of conflict
Speaker 1: in the finale. Who do you have any outstanding beef with?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's outstanding, but obviously it was really
Speaker 2: hard because it's very different as well from your time,
Speaker 2: but we relive everything twice, which is such like it's
Speaker 2: not a feeling. I feel people get to kind of
Speaker 2: take on often. So like, as much as it was
Speaker 2: all done, however many months ago, everything hurts again. So
Speaker 2: even when we watched the episode of Sam saying that
Speaker 2: it was like I was there all over again, and
Speaker 2: I thought we had squashed everything and I thought it
Speaker 2: was all said and done, but she kind of then
Speaker 2: got onto so many podcasts and so many news articles
Speaker 2: and almost said that I had I did have a
Speaker 2: crush on Drew, which was really hard because I was like,
Speaker 2: this was meant to be done, this was meant to
Speaker 2: be over, we were meant to be friends now, and
Speaker 2: she'd obviously after the experience, had apologized so many times,
Speaker 2: and then for her to continue the narrative it was
Speaker 2: really hard. And I just remember talking to her and
Speaker 2: I was like, I totally I totally get you need
Speaker 2: to speak your truth and you need to talk about
Speaker 2: your story. But there's a difference between subjective and objective
Speaker 2: and you stating things like their facts. It's not okay.
Speaker 2: You can say, oh, I thought Gabby might have or
Speaker 2: this was my opinion or this is just how I felt,
Speaker 2: but that was never what she did. It was just
Speaker 2: constant saying Gabby, Yeah, Gabby has a crush on Drew.
Speaker 2: This is fact, this is what happened. So that was
Speaker 2: really hard. So I wouldn't say that's beef. But I
Speaker 2: think Sam and I have as much as she is
Speaker 2: a beautiful person. I think we have done our time. Sadly.
Speaker 2: I think it just shows after the experience I've called.
Speaker 2: I said, Big brothers like a Kenticky to her. There
Speaker 2: are people that if you call into their city, you'll
Speaker 2: have lunch with, and there are people that you will
Speaker 2: actively go and see, and she's just not one of
Speaker 2: those people.
Speaker 1: I love the reference of Big Brother being a Kentiky tour,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Do you feel it? Do you rest?
Speaker 1: I haven't been on a kenty tour, but I have
Speaker 1: been in Big Brother, and I believe that they sound
Speaker 1: very similar. I think that's why people have relationships in
Speaker 1: Big Brother. It's like a Kentiquy tour. You know, away
Speaker 1: from home and you need some comfort, and so you
Speaker 1: just hook up with anything. Fifteen people on this Ki
Speaker 1: tour I have to be with you are.
Speaker 2: The best part of this bunch. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. And then you get back to
Speaker 2: reality and like life Big Brother compared to real life obviously,
Speaker 2: like life is tough sometimes and you're tested more so. Naturally,
Speaker 2: those relationships that you found in this mythical, magical land
Speaker 2: of Kentiki or Big Brother, things just don't work the
Speaker 2: same way they do on the outside. It's just it's
Speaker 2: almost like coming to terms of being a realist and
Speaker 2: being like, ah, this was just what that was.
Speaker 1: Who has the biggest rivalry post show? Who needs Doctor
Speaker 1: Phil the most?
Speaker 2: This is easy, Sam and Drew like, that's not. I
Speaker 2: don't think they I don't even think they need Doctor
Speaker 2: Feel the most. They will not be They're not gonna
Speaker 2: be friends. They're not friends. So not that we saw
Speaker 2: it coming, but I don't know. Breakups are hard, whether
Speaker 2: they're with somebody and Big Brother or not. So the
Speaker 2: fact that I think we all kind of envisioned and
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. They could be housemaids that were like, no,
Speaker 2: we thought they were the real deal. Knowing both of
Speaker 2: them and obviously knowing Drew as well as I do,
Speaker 2: it was never going to work on the outside and
Speaker 2: then to have a breakup that sporterline public their breakup wasn't,
Speaker 2: but obviously their journey on Big Brother was, and then
Speaker 2: the betrayal. I don't think that they will ever be friends.
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's done.
Speaker 1: That's too much kissing for me, you know. I think
Speaker 1: that there has been also too much talk about head
Speaker 1: and hard players you know in life, you can't be
Speaker 1: one of two or two of none. The housemates kidding
Speaker 1: themselves that you are either playing with only head or heart.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would say I would say head and
Speaker 2: heart are two different strategies. But there is borderline this
Speaker 2: almost I think it's more of a concept of everybody's
Speaker 2: playing a really honest game. You physically cannot play this
Speaker 2: pure game in Big Brother. You can't. You have to
Speaker 2: tell people you want them there when you probably don't,
Speaker 2: or tell people this, or tell people that. The head
Speaker 2: and heart thing I feel like has just been blown
Speaker 2: out of proportion. I do feel like people use one
Speaker 2: more than the other. But it's still a strategy, Like
Speaker 2: there's no whether you're a really head player that is
Speaker 2: super strategic and really focusing on what is bettering their
Speaker 2: game in comparison to a heart player that is kind
Speaker 2: of like, well, if I keep my friends in, they're
Speaker 2: not going to vote me out anyway, So that's still
Speaker 2: a strategy. But there became this awfully like moral high
Speaker 2: horse of like, well, I've played with the most integrity
Speaker 2: and I've played a really honest game when nobody can,
Speaker 2: like even bless Reggie, I remember one of the eviction rooms.
Speaker 2: She sat there and she was like, OHI everybody just
Speaker 2: tells porky pies. And I said, Reggie, I asked you
Speaker 2: were voting for and you lied to me. And she
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, I've read bless Her, but like
Speaker 2: no one, no one can sit in that house on
Speaker 2: a moral high horse and be like I am squeaky clean.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what people would misinterpret of like
Speaker 2: head and heart, there was no one. There was no
Speaker 2: one that was better than the other, nothing with Like
Speaker 2: being a strategic head player didn't make you a bad guy,
Speaker 2: and being a heart one didn't make you some superhero.
Speaker 2: They were both different. They were both strategies. Neither one
Speaker 2: deserved to be a good or bad one.
Speaker 1: Just true. It's driving me insane because it's just going
Speaker 1: on and on and on. You know, I've only played
Speaker 1: with heart. You know I've only played with my head.
Speaker 2: I mean, acknowledge that they're both strategies, don't wrong. I
Speaker 2: still I still think head and heart two different strategies.
Speaker 2: One's not bad, one's not great. But there's this moral
Speaker 2: there's even a sort of high horse of like, oh
Speaker 2: will I play with my head? So I'm this big, bad,
Speaker 2: strong player, and I'm like, you can play with your
Speaker 2: heart and be strategic af Like, I feel like I
Speaker 2: tried to be my best even when I threw my boat,
Speaker 2: to try and work out a way to get through
Speaker 2: out of that mix. That wasn't I wouldn't say I'm
Speaker 2: a headplayer, but that was like, my friend's in danger,
Speaker 2: I need to get him out. So I feel like
Speaker 2: it's this really fine line of like you're either one
Speaker 2: of the strongest and the badest, being this super crazy
Speaker 2: head player, or you're this heart player that's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're one of the good ones, but you're really soft
Speaker 2: and you don't play the game. So I really struggle
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: But it's a good strategy though, because if you're constantly
Speaker 1: in the diary room saying that you're one, and people
Speaker 1: will identify with someone's you know, I like someone who's
Speaker 1: more strategic, or I like someone who's more emotional or empathetic.
Speaker 1: You know, like you're playing into your demographics. So it
Speaker 1: builds a storyline that I can see is worth while doing.
Speaker 1: But I just think in the real world, I just
Speaker 1: feel like we are all operating as humans and we
Speaker 1: need both and in life, we make decisions with our
Speaker 1: head and with our heart. You can't separate them. You
Speaker 1: can't stop doing it, can't stop.
Speaker 2: Being a humans, being a person. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: You were, you know, scrambling with Estelle and Tim, and
Speaker 1: I was watching you in those relationships. Who was more
Speaker 1: trustworthy in the house out of those two, because I mean,
Speaker 1: they're the biggest players of the game in my mind
Speaker 1: watching the show as we're drawing to an end, we're
Speaker 1: getting more and more of Tim and Estelle. But from
Speaker 1: your perspective as a newbie, who could you trust the most?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a hard one, because I was obviously close
Speaker 2: with both, Like Tim is this Tim is this unpredictable
Speaker 2: player you never like even in not last night's episode
Speaker 2: than night before, I said, I said, I knew you
Speaker 2: were going to save Johnson, but I just wanted it
Speaker 2: to be me, so like a part of you always
Speaker 2: knew he was predictable in his unpredictability, and it was
Speaker 2: really hard to kind of trust. But then I had
Speaker 2: a Stelle, and I knew how close she was with Reggie,
Speaker 2: and there were always rumors going around that Estelle knew
Speaker 2: that I that Reggie, and that all the og has
Speaker 2: been putting those points on me about halfway through the experience,
Speaker 2: so to be fair, towards the end, I trusted neither
Speaker 2: of them the same amount. Look which sounds horrible, but
Speaker 2: I remember sitting the diary chair lost. As soon as
Speaker 2: I lost Drew, I said, I said, if I go up,
Speaker 2: I go home, and people would be like, oh, but
Speaker 2: Drew said this and Drew and I was like, no, like,
Speaker 2: I know Drew has my back. He will tell you
Speaker 2: whatever you want to hear, but I know the end
Speaker 2: of the day that he will save me. Where Stelle
Speaker 2: was like, well, I'm playing for two because I'm playing
Speaker 2: for Reggie as well, and Tim is like, I just
Speaker 2: do whatever I want. It was it was really hard
Speaker 2: to kind of, I guess, work out where I stood
Speaker 2: with both of them. And obviously Estelle and Drew had
Speaker 2: beef throughout the experience. He jumped to newbies. Stelle didn't
Speaker 2: like that, so it was it was really hard, and
Speaker 2: especially after the vote where I had thrown my vote
Speaker 2: to try and save Drew. I can remember Stell and
Speaker 2: Reggie were just so angry and I was so confused
Speaker 2: because little me was like, I just tried to save
Speaker 2: my friend. Why is it this big deal? We didn't
Speaker 2: want girls to go up. No girls went up, like
Speaker 2: I was so sure, and I'm me just being like hi,
Speaker 2: why me and my head, I'm like, get over it,
Speaker 2: Come up, We've got a game to play, like move
Speaker 2: on next. But no, they would hold on to that
Speaker 2: with their life. And so I knew a Stelle never
Speaker 2: really not trusted me again, but I just knew that
Speaker 2: she she wasn't happy with my decision and she needs
Speaker 2: to save Reggie, which obviously, like Reggie continually is like
Speaker 2: Gabby's coming for me, and I've never shown that well.
Speaker 1: I think you did very well to have gotten to
Speaker 1: where you've gotten to in the competition. I think it's
Speaker 1: a really tough competition. I think you've been amazing to
Speaker 1: watch and to watch you sort of navigate so many
Speaker 1: different relationships, you know. And then also, as you've we've
Speaker 1: talked about in this podcast, not only did you live
Speaker 1: this experience six months ago, you've had this you know,
Speaker 1: impending doom, and then now you're watching it all unfold
Speaker 1: and you're reading about it in the media. What is
Speaker 1: the biggest load of shit that you've read about in
Speaker 1: the media since they've started talking about.
Speaker 2: It well too. My first one is mine personally, where
Speaker 2: Sam would continue to say that I had a crush
Speaker 2: on Drew, absolutely lies. I don't know how many time,
Speaker 2: like I'll say for the people at the back, I
Speaker 2: do not have a crush on Drew. I'm very grateful
Speaker 2: to have Drew in my life as my big brother,
Speaker 2: but that is where our relationship kind of ends. In fact,
Speaker 2: I now know Drew's new girlfriend recently well, and I
Speaker 2: adore her, So yeah, that needs that makes me nipped
Speaker 2: in the absolute butt ASA. And then the most recent
Speaker 2: one I've seen is this like big, big fight between
Speaker 2: Tully and Drew. I don't know if you've seen it
Speaker 2: in anywhere, but I think it spoke about like Tully
Speaker 2: would never get work again. It was really horrific, And
Speaker 2: either I was in the diary room or I was
Speaker 2: mining own business, which is very often, but I never
Speaker 2: saw this fight happen.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to celebrate Big Brother Bang
Speaker 1: on you know, television for twenty one years. We're going
Speaker 1: to go through some rapid fire questions.
Speaker 2: So just just like twenty one questions, I'm ready to.
Speaker 1: We're going to get into this alright, are you ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, and it's really fast.
Speaker 1: What did you miss the most while you're inside the
Speaker 1: Big Brother House?
Speaker 2: A hair dryer?
Speaker 1: You know that they can't let you have a hair
Speaker 1: dryer because girls often gossip they're using the hair dryer,
Speaker 1: and so they don't want you to talk over the top.
Speaker 1: You know they're going to lose the audio. Who was Yeah?
Speaker 1: I added the last part on which is probably absolute rubbish,
Speaker 1: and everyone listening knows that. Who was your favorite person
Speaker 1: inside the house?
Speaker 2: Trevor.
Speaker 1: Who was your least favorite person in the house?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Lara, Okay, that's right.
Speaker 1: She said you anyway, so tip to.
Speaker 2: Tap even perfect?
Speaker 1: Who had I'm making that up, by the way, Gabby,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what she said.
Speaker 2: Probably would be you would not be wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a terrible person. I've thrown something on the
Speaker 1: fire and I should have. Who had the most annoying habit.
Speaker 2: Any of the boys, because they would shave and leave
Speaker 2: it anywhere? So probably Johnson Johnson and shaving.
Speaker 1: Who was the funniest person in the house.
Speaker 2: I hate saying it, but Tim saying it because Tim
Speaker 2: knows he's funny. He doesn't need anybody to tell him.
Speaker 1: He knows do you reckon He's sitting around listening to
Speaker 1: these podcasts, though he would have him.
Speaker 2: On record before bedtime. Gabby thought I was funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was the laziest person in the house, jaz No,
Speaker 1: What is your greatest regret?
Speaker 2: My biggest regret was putting a point on Trevor.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe you did that still
Speaker 1: to thisame.
Speaker 2: It was between my best my best friend at the
Speaker 2: time in the house and Trevor, and he had pulled
Speaker 2: us aside and said, don't you dare And it didn't
Speaker 2: make the air, but I was in that diary room
Speaker 2: for too long. But no, my biggest regret is putting
Speaker 2: a point.
Speaker 1: On Trevor because it was you against Trevor and Alisha Ryan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I came out with I think one point,
Speaker 2: so I was I was the little safety vote.
Speaker 1: What's your friendship like with Alisha Nout? Is it the
Speaker 1: same as what it was in the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's always really hard watching it back and
Speaker 2: then kind of seeing like, oh she was coming for me.
Speaker 2: Oh she did want me out. But no, we don't
Speaker 2: get to see each other as much as I'd like.
Speaker 2: Obviously we'd work and stuff, but No, we're still I
Speaker 2: still say we're close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's still on the Christmas list. Is she going
Speaker 1: to send her a Christmas card?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who will be out next week? Like, not what you
Speaker 1: know now? But who did you think leaving the competition
Speaker 1: would be the next to leave?
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be between any of
Speaker 2: you OG's. I knew was going to win the challenge.
Speaker 2: It was going to be Terrass or Brenton who would
Speaker 2: win as physically really strong players. So any the Ogs
Speaker 2: will be out next And.
Speaker 1: The best question of all time is who will win
Speaker 1: Big Brother twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: If any OG makes it to the end, they will win.
Speaker 2: So newbies who are left in their play hard, play smart,
Speaker 2: and get the Ogs out because otherwise absolutely no hope
Speaker 2: in winning over Estelle, who had such a different experience
Speaker 2: last time around coming third. I feel like when people
Speaker 2: don't win, they want you to win. And Estelle wins,
Speaker 2: I'm more than confident she has it in the bag.
Speaker 2: Queen Reggie, that statement in itself explains everything and the
Speaker 2: mastermind that Tim is. As much as you want to
Speaker 2: hate him for being incredible at this game, you have
Speaker 2: to admire it too. I remember before going in because
Speaker 2: obviously I had knew Tim. They said, if you would
Speaker 2: play like any ex housemate, who would you play like?
Speaker 2: And I said, I'd like to play like Tim because
Speaker 2: Tim makes moves and gets away with murder. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I feel like I get away with so
Speaker 2: much in my life. I could do this.
Speaker 1: It's been so much time since my time in Big
Speaker 1: Brother that I'm now watching it purely as if. And
Speaker 1: it's so weird because I watch it and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'd love to do Big Brother and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: you've done Big Brother? You won Big Brother And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: but I want to do this, but it's just been
Speaker 1: so long since that, you know. I just I've watching
Speaker 1: it completely differently. Like Estelle. I think that she's amazing,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there going, oh my god, this woman
Speaker 1: is amazing and I'm like, no, you lived with her
Speaker 1: and she was a nightmare. But I'm like, no, she's changed,
Speaker 1: she's amazing.
Speaker 2: You're like I've been in there with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like, no, what she stands for and
Speaker 1: I champion her and I've got an Estelle t shirt?
Speaker 2: Yeah, ihart a Stelle.
Speaker 1: My last question is something I ask everyone, what is
Speaker 1: something from behind the scenes of Big Brother that we
Speaker 1: as an audience didn't see that we will not see
Speaker 1: something of a behind the scenes secret, something happened that
Speaker 1: audiences would love to know.
Speaker 2: The biggest ones were like the silence that would have
Speaker 2: to come when nominating. So when we'd all get sat
Speaker 2: down on the lounge and have to nominate, it was
Speaker 2: like dead silent. It's dead silence. You couldn't speak to anybody,
Speaker 2: you couldn't look at anybody. And then when they were
Speaker 2: obviously tallying them up to work out who's gonna pop
Speaker 2: up on the screen and who's going to be two
Speaker 2: points for Gabby, you still had to be in dead silence.
Speaker 2: So we would be waiting for maybe like an hour
Speaker 2: to finally hear the verdict of who was being nominated
Speaker 2: and where all the votes went. But like dead silence,
Speaker 2: the quietest you would ever see the Big Brother house
Speaker 2: was in those moments.
Speaker 1: How bad a mathematician is Big Brother? I mean, there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of numbers to that up.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, my big Brother. I give me a
Speaker 2: calculator and I can help you if you love, Like
Speaker 2: at this point, I can't do the tech you stuff
Speaker 2: that's for you, but or in my head, I'm just like,
Speaker 2: just tell me if.
Speaker 1: It's me, Gabby. I've been looking forward to chatting with
Speaker 1: you the whole time because I just thought that you
Speaker 1: were fantastic on the show, and I knew i'd get
Speaker 1: a good gossip out of you. It's been so much fun.
Speaker 1: You haven't disappointed.
Speaker 2: Yay. That makes my heart so happy. I all I
Speaker 2: wanted was to come across how I am, and I
Speaker 2: can confirm on the screen in real life where the
Speaker 2: same little person. So I'm really glad. M