WEBVTT - BIG BROTHERS GIFT OF THE GABBIE!

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week theyline welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>streaming services today. On the podcast, I have Gabby from

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother twenty twenty two, one of the youngest newbies

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<v Speaker 1>in the competition, who I believe was strategically placed to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the average age down of all the housemates for

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<v Speaker 1>this season, you know, based on all the OG's being

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<v Speaker 1>so old. Gabby played a great game and she was

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<v Speaker 1>more than just her mermaid hair and a seat filler.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw her relationship grow and change, but ultimately she

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<v Speaker 1>was navigating what she thought was right and guys, that

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<v Speaker 1>is why this podcast chat is fun, because Gabby knows

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how to speak her truth. Gabby had a fair

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<v Speaker 1>few challenges within her time in the house, one being

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Reggie not quite buying into her game. Gabby was

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<v Speaker 1>also the third wheel at times in this year's show mance,

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<v Speaker 1>not always being sure on Tim and Estelle and who

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<v Speaker 1>to trust, But overall she fought her way to the

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<v Speaker 1>second last week of Big Brother. We will talk post

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<v Speaker 1>show why Big Brother is like a Kenticki tour, who

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<v Speaker 1>will win and who needs Doctor Phil at this point

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<v Speaker 1>of the competition. However, let's get started with today's guest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to welcome the latest of Victor Gabby to

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>Towards the end, I trusted neither of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been through a lot together.

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<v Speaker 2>Have woud we no one consider in that house on

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<v Speaker 2>a moral high horse and be like I am squeaky

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<v Speaker 2>clean this year it's.

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<v Speaker 1>My twenty first birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>You physically cannot play this pure game in Big Brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've invited housemates both new and legendary. I was

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<v Speaker 2>gobsmacked is probably the correct word. Will experience be enough

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<v Speaker 2>to take on the next generation of housemaid? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>Big Brothers like a Kenticki tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Z is Big Brother? Hi? Gabby? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello? I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me Oh, it's so exciting to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here. And I just want to start by saying

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on getting into the Big Brother House and doing

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<v Speaker 1>so well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you. I mean I'd like to say I

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<v Speaker 2>tried my best. Definitely very exciting to have been lucky

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<v Speaker 2>enough to be a part of the cast this year,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>How did this whole thing come about? Because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I did do a little bit of research and you

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<v Speaker 1>sort of said to someone in the media about Big Brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those things where you say you might do

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<v Speaker 1>it all you might say that to your friend, but

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<v Speaker 1>you never actually do it. But you know, how did you?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get picked?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, well it's exactly like that, though. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>so many people joke with their friends and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>could you imagine if I got on Big Brother? Could

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine this? And obviously there's such a lengthy process,

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<v Speaker 2>as you would know, and so many people apply, so

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of it's almost as much as you want

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<v Speaker 2>to back yourself and believe in yourself, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>do a little But why me, Like even when I

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<v Speaker 2>got pitched, I was stoked and I was so excited,

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<v Speaker 2>but I kind of was a little bit shook. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I actually didn't think I'd get this far.

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<v Speaker 2>Like funnily enough, my family, who were the absolutely most

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful people in the entire world. However, they were a

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<v Speaker 2>bit concerned about Reality TV, which is Big Brother. So

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<v Speaker 2>I did my first audition in my local aquatic center

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<v Speaker 2>car park because I had said to Mom and Dad

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my car. I said I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have to tell them until I'd got on. So

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<v Speaker 2>in my head I was like, I'll do the audition

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what happens. The ball just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had to keep rolling, and then eventually I had to

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<v Speaker 2>tell them, which was very exciting but very daunting. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I just was in covid Lockdown last year. Obviously, I

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<v Speaker 2>was cabin cru for Virgin Australia for two years beforehand,

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<v Speaker 2>and life's very exciting being a flight attendant. You're constantly

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<v Speaker 2>on the go, You're constantly on the move, So then

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<v Speaker 2>to be very stagnant and still was very scary for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm always chasing some sort of next adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was like, how did I get here?

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<v Speaker 2>How have I ended up in this position? And the

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<v Speaker 2>casting dates had closed so I don't even know then

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<v Speaker 2>what possessed me to continue with it, because in my head,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd believed that they'd already picked everybody they'd needed to pick.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I sent my application away and I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually in a career review with General Pants when I

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<v Speaker 2>had got on a phone call and I'll obviously let

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<v Speaker 2>it go to a voicemail, and then I remember listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the voicemail and it was like, Hey, this is

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<v Speaker 2>so and so from Big Brother, Can you give us

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<v Speaker 2>a call back? And I was driving the car and

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh my god, try not to crash it

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, but being like this isn't real, This

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<v Speaker 2>isn't I reckon. I listened to it about five times,

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<v Speaker 2>being like do they say Big Brother? Big Brother? Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, is this for real? Is this like spam?

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<v Speaker 2>But no, and like again, the ball just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>kept rolling after that and was lucky enough to be

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<v Speaker 2>part of this incredible season.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get a sense of what the producers were

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<v Speaker 1>looking for in you? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>So I can remember my in my audition tape, which

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<v Speaker 2>I had spoken to obviously then Tully, and Tully was

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<v Speaker 2>like I took forever to do mine, Like I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to really get it like done properly and just create

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<v Speaker 2>like a really good video to send in. I did

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<v Speaker 2>mine with my phone in my hand up like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just said, I was just like, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>think people won't see me as a threat. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a typical twenty two year old that's sweet and as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I am those qualities, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>as well as a manager for General Pants, I had

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<v Speaker 2>started a full time career straight out of high school,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'd like to say to some degree, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of was a bit of a hustler and I would

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<v Speaker 2>always be looking for some sort of opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 2>like further, So that's what I wanted to bring into

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<v Speaker 2>the game. I knew people would kind of see me

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<v Speaker 2>as this happy, go lucky, which I was, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also wanted to be some sort of game player as

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<v Speaker 2>well as I feel like sometimes I don't come across

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<v Speaker 2>as this very tom boyish kind of girl, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I am, and I had grown up playing nearly four

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<v Speaker 2>competitive sports at a state level as a kid and

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<v Speaker 2>then through my teen years, so I knew that the

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<v Speaker 2>challenges were going to be something that AI was going

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy and be be decent at and even in

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<v Speaker 2>my Little Like promo video, I remember it said I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be dangerous until I need to be,

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel it like that's exactly what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that there was a complex character that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unfolded for us, you know, which was great about you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you didn't just play the newbie role that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that people might have essentially thought that you

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<v Speaker 1>might being a little bit younger as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know much about the series? I mean, did

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<v Speaker 1>you know who all these ogs were like when they

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<v Speaker 1>were all coming in? Did you know every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of them? Or how much of a Big Brother fan

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<v Speaker 1>were you?

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<v Speaker 2>As much as I respect all of them. I was

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<v Speaker 2>five when Reggie won, so I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>that appropriate to be watching Big Brother, especially old school

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<v Speaker 2>Big Brother, at five to sixty years old. So the

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<v Speaker 2>last kind of season that I remember would have been Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>Tully and Drew, because I would have been even then

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<v Speaker 2>still thirteen and family won't crash hot on Big Brothers

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<v Speaker 2>like the old days. So I can remember I remembering

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<v Speaker 2>in the eviction room and I remember they said, in

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<v Speaker 2>one more thing, housemates, and I look up and I

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<v Speaker 2>just recognized Tim's curly hair and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, like and it just clicked. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is all Stars because we went in having no

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<v Speaker 2>idea obviously, as we then came to such a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>But it made sense before going in because they said

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<v Speaker 2>things like who won in two thousand and four? And

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<v Speaker 2>again I was like, oh, I was five, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>no idea, and they asked all these like old questions

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<v Speaker 2>or like who won a million dollars? And it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously now I'm very close with Trev and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm only getting two fifty k, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go again, I want to rerun, I want

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<v Speaker 2>the a million. So I didn't even know that it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So as much as I understood the concept, especially the

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<v Speaker 2>new version, I wouldn't say that I was an old

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<v Speaker 2>school Big Brother fan. And now obviously like I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and watch everyone's seasons. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see how it went down, what their experience was like,

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<v Speaker 2>especially because I think I would have loved the old version.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just I feel like the social experiment was

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<v Speaker 2>definitely more obvious, where this is so strategic. It's I

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<v Speaker 2>like to say it's like Glamorous Survivor at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>like there is so much into the madness. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just insane. So I found it really odd as well

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<v Speaker 2>that I eventually jumped ship. Well actually it wasn't eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>It was quite early on, but they just had they

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<v Speaker 2>knew their stuff, they'd done it before, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>just more calmer about everything, which, obviously in a really

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<v Speaker 2>hectic experience, I feel like I needed it to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, they were older, so you probably gravitated to them,

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<v Speaker 1>being like, you're my new parents, you know, Reggie, can

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<v Speaker 1>you be my mum?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Reggie Mami?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was really sad. A beautiful relationship

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<v Speaker 2>got missed between Trevor and I. Trev was like my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>He was brilliant and he was incredible in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of again, reality TV is really scary. You don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen, what's going to make the cuts,

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<v Speaker 2>what's not how you're going to be perceived. Obviously, going

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<v Speaker 2>in you have an idea, but you still never know

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<v Speaker 2>what that environment's going to test you to do and

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<v Speaker 2>say and who you become, especially like again twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>like so young, I'm still learning so much about myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So to have someone in there like Trev who would

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<v Speaker 2>just remind me and like even after a challenge or

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<v Speaker 2>after anything that would go down the house, he would

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<v Speaker 2>just hug me and be like, your parents are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be so proud of you, and like that's all

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<v Speaker 2>I would need to hear and be like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>can I can do this, I can do this. I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Italian Estelle, who became like big sisters, Drew who became

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<v Speaker 2>my big brother. Like I was very lucky, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have said previously, it was just nice to feel like

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<v Speaker 2>protect it. Like I'm really close with my older sister.

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<v Speaker 2>She was probably, other than my mum and dad, the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest person to kind of leave behind for nearly eight

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<v Speaker 2>weeks or whatever we were up to. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>just nice to kind of someone said to me, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it was a producer, if it was one of how

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<v Speaker 2>well being people, they said, whatever you have on the outside,

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<v Speaker 2>find it in there to keep you sane. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's exactly what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's so smart, I mean, that's you know. Interestingly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I met Reggie before I did Big Brother, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, look if you get on, do this, this

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<v Speaker 1>and this, and I did exactly what she told me

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And one of them, yeah, yeah, one of

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<v Speaker 1>them was I think she said she did the washing,

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<v Speaker 1>or she did the dishes, or she just stayed out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. So if you were absent from the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation for a whole day, people forgot to even think

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<v Speaker 1>that you were a nuisance. So you could be a

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<v Speaker 1>pain in the neck for six days and then just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I'm just going to sit this day out,

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<v Speaker 1>and people would forget to nominate you just go and hide.

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<v Speaker 2>All that would have been brilliant, it would have been beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go mind. No one can mind their own business

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<v Speaker 2>and their big brother house, So that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's too small. But you know, in hindsight, you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people were talking about whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not the newbies were worried that the ogs had sort

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<v Speaker 1>of ruined their experience. You know, in hindsight, were you

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<v Speaker 1>happy that there was a mix of old and new.

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<v Speaker 2>For I think it was hard in the sense, like

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<v Speaker 2>I can agree with it. It's been really hardest. We're

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<v Speaker 2>on the back foot. They've got all this incredible fan

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<v Speaker 2>base and really passionate people behind them. We're starting from scratch,

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<v Speaker 2>we are studying. People are only just getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>us now they've had Oh, I think Reggie has done

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<v Speaker 2>like over one hundred days in the Big Brother House.

0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.200
<v Speaker 2>She has one hundred days of character building, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're up to fifty outs, nearly one hundred and fifty

0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.240
<v Speaker 2>days of getting to know Reggie. It does put you

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<v Speaker 2>on the back foot, but for me in the house,

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<v Speaker 2>without them, I would have gone rogue. I truly believe

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<v Speaker 2>I would not have been able to stand because the

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<v Speaker 2>newbies played a really vicious game like it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so strategic and everything's thought out their heart and head us.

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<v Speaker 2>They are both strategies. I'm not saying that they're not,

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<v Speaker 2>but one is a really brutal way to play and

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<v Speaker 2>the other, again still a strategy. I'm not saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not strategic, but I just wanted to keep my friends in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I wanted to do, because they kept me sane,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what the old school version was like. You

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<v Speaker 2>keep the people you need to survive, however many days

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<v Speaker 2>in the house so you don't go crazy. Because that place,

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<v Speaker 2>with the minimal food that we get not having your

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<v Speaker 2>support network. You need people around you that will help

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<v Speaker 2>you survive where other Obviously the head game is like

0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.600
<v Speaker 2>who will just keep me in the longest? Or how

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<v Speaker 2>can I make this happen? Or Okay, if I get

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<v Speaker 2>to final three, I can't be standing next to so

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<v Speaker 2>and so because they're going to win, or which is

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<v Speaker 2>it's understandable. I think it was really hard knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>if we were in top three with the ogs, we

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<v Speaker 2>had no hope in hell. But it was also like

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<v Speaker 2>most of my friends were OG's, Like I got to

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<v Speaker 2>a point I thought, where you make it to the

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<v Speaker 2>top three by keeping my integrity intact and not having

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<v Speaker 2>to put a vote on any of my friend then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a pretty cind like pretty content humans. So as

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<v Speaker 2>much as it was hard to I guess get our

0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.480
<v Speaker 2>characters to come to life. I love, I say, characters

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<v Speaker 2>to bring our personalities to life. It was really hard

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<v Speaker 2>in comparison to the ogs, but without them I would

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<v Speaker 2>not have made it this far.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that you would have gotten further? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if it was just all newbies, Like do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you would have made it to the end? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>much did these ogs get in the way of your game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. Have I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 2>because again, because I wasn't that strategic like the newbies,

0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.439
<v Speaker 2>they might have got rid of me very very early on.

0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.960
<v Speaker 2>They could have been like, nah, she's not playing our game.

0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.880
<v Speaker 2>It's time to go. But then, obviously, the OG's reputation

0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.840
<v Speaker 2>is so hard to like to overcome. I've never thought

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I don't, I don't. I don't think if

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<v Speaker 2>it was all newbies, I don't think I would have

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<v Speaker 2>made it this far. I'm still convinced the newbies would

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<v Speaker 2>have been like, nah, she's not playing. She's too busy

0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.360
<v Speaker 2>drinking cordial by the pool and life, So no, she's

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<v Speaker 2>got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, everyone's now talking about this final challenge from the

0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you know your last episode. Essentially, I would love for

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<v Speaker 1>you to unpack a few things in that last challenge

0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.760
<v Speaker 1>which we saw you and Brenton and Estelle. How do

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges positions? Like how do the challenge positions get distributed?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you walk into that backyard, did you know

0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you're getting put on that end one? Did you know

0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that Estelle would be in the middle? Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>they distribute that?

0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I think they I could remember certain challenges would require

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more from us. So obviously, like before

0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.360
<v Speaker 2>we go in, we get measured up with helmets and harnesses,

0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.600
<v Speaker 2>but obviously, like our weights and stuff changed throughout the experience,

0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.520
<v Speaker 2>so they have to make sure that when they're doing

0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.200
<v Speaker 2>certain these challenges are amazing. But my goodness, so no

0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.160
<v Speaker 2>that I'm pretty sure this one has a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>do with weight. Actually, me talking about it has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to do with arm strength and body weight. They'd

0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.280
<v Speaker 2>all been organized in accordance to our weight, so obviously

0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know walking in that that one was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be mine. But then they were like, okay, this

0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.000
<v Speaker 2>is how we've kind of, I guess positioned it all.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, yes, it's pre positioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah. People were asking about that one online. Did

0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you see Brenton drop the ball? And was there much

0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about how that came about? Because he kind of

0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.480
<v Speaker 1>dropped that ball out of the blue, so and then

0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.520
<v Speaker 1>no one really asked him what happened. He just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of fell down and was like, oh, I'm so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>But then once that challenge had finished, did he say

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<v Speaker 1>how that ball came down out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he talked about it back in the house in

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<v Speaker 2>the midst of our scramble, and he talked about he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I was in pain as soon as we started,

0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.320
<v Speaker 2>because obviously he's this really strong, muscular man. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like looking across and I was like, oh god,

0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.240
<v Speaker 2>why did it have to be upper arms like anything?

0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.920
<v Speaker 2>But this is like absolute kryptonite. But no, he just said,

0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.240
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I just I'm done. He just said I

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<v Speaker 2>was exhausted. He gues, I was in pain from the

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<v Speaker 2>get go. He was surprised he made it that long.

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<v Speaker 2>Even you see, like he battles it constantly, where Estelle,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Stay is super.

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<v Speaker 1>Strong, so she's a challenge beastimental.

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<v Speaker 2>Game is just incredible her mind. Once she gets it

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<v Speaker 2>into that specific zone, you can't break it.

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<v Speaker 1>Always say with it. When it comes to Estelle, once

0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.440
<v Speaker 1>she has firmly planted the seed, the tree will grow

0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and the trunk is very strong and you can't cut

0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it down. And that is a good thing and a

0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.080
<v Speaker 1>bad thing in a way, because once she has decided something,

0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it's impossible to change. That's just as admirable in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways as it is frustrating for others.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when the trunk is planted in your garden it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. And again as much as Estelle Ohslei is

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the reason I end up going home,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I probably wouldn't have become myself without her.

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember early on, We're probably in day four

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<v Speaker 2>and it's literally the loudest person of every friendship group

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<v Speaker 2>in one place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so naturally being.

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<v Speaker 2>The loudest in mine, I found it really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>find my feet. I was like, oh, well, I'm not

0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.040
<v Speaker 2>this and I'm not that, Like what am I doing

0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.200
<v Speaker 2>here and trying to find I guess the reason you

0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 2>will put in there? And I still grabbed me and

0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:58.920
<v Speaker 2>she was like, you just don't seem like yourself, and

0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't feel like myself, not that

0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:02.960
<v Speaker 2>you ever want to go home, but you I just

0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.199
<v Speaker 2>had realized how like day four in I was like,

0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.960
<v Speaker 2>this is hard, and she just said, you just need

0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.359
<v Speaker 2>to understand that the audience will see you and you

0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.959
<v Speaker 2>just need to be yourself and if you like yourself

0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and your friends like yourself, the audience will too. And

0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm again sound that that got missed because it really

0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.080
<v Speaker 2>showed I guess how the ogs have done it before

0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.159
<v Speaker 2>and how they were this calming nature to some of

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.639
<v Speaker 2>us movies. But no, Estelle when she makes when she

0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 2>makes up her mind, whether she's she goes. You know what,

0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to win this challenge.

0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, game over, it's done, You're all destroyed.

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's game over. So No, for most of the experience,

0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I was very lucky that she would constantly have my

0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.080
<v Speaker 2>back and be like, no, we need Gabby, we need Gabby,

0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 2>we need Gabby. So while I had while I had

0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.200
<v Speaker 2>her in my corner, I was very lucky.

0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Until I didn't, Well, until you didn't, but you know,

0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you did always manage to have the best hair in

0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the house, and so that is, you know, when you've

0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.080
<v Speaker 1>got Mermaid hair, I think is what Tully was calling it.

0:17:58.440 --> 0:17:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Who cares whether you go home?

0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, I feel like I've had a

0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of people in my dms asking about the hair routine,

0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.200
<v Speaker 2>how I curl it, how I style it, so which

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.840
<v Speaker 2>is really funny because again sometimes in the house, like

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'm naturally, as we've seen in every exit interview,

0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I am the messiest person in the entire world.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get to that in the minute of

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Let me tell you, I just want to

0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.520
<v Speaker 1>finish unpacking this one thing. And you know, in the scramble,

0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.439
<v Speaker 1>you kind of had a choice. Do you stick with

0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a trusty washing machine or do you buy a new

0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.639
<v Speaker 1>one because I always believe they don't make white goods

0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.159
<v Speaker 1>like they used to. Sorry about the what do you

0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.960
<v Speaker 1>call these? The analogy? Sorry about the analogy here? Yeah,

0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.840
<v Speaker 1>where we're going, But fundamentally, what do you think do

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you stick with a trustee relationship or do you try

0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and build a new one. I kind of felt like

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.719
<v Speaker 1>that's where you were in your final moments. In that

0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:54.560
<v Speaker 1>final scramble.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really hard. It was it's a torn because

0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 2>there's so many little numbers left. It's you're also trying

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.879
<v Speaker 2>to please everybody, and you are making promises you can't keep.

0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.879
<v Speaker 2>So I would know that the newbies would want certain

0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 2>people out and I would be like, I'm here for it,

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And then I'd be like to the ogs, oh no, no, no,

0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm here for this because you just need the votes.

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.560
<v Speaker 2>It's really sad scrambling, which I remember being asked, how

0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 2>are you going to cope with this? And I was like,

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hate it. I am such a if you

0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:26.159
<v Speaker 2>love me, cool if you don't also cool each to

0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.400
<v Speaker 2>your own, so to literally be begging people to keep

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.720
<v Speaker 2>you somewhere, it was it was so cringe. I just

0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.240
<v Speaker 2>couldn't stand it. So it was really hard trying to

0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.440
<v Speaker 2>be like, okay, well, ogs have been so loyal, so

0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.200
<v Speaker 2>so loyal, and then it's like newbies, it's like, hey,

0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:46.160
<v Speaker 2>guys remember me, Yeah, we can we rebuild this or.

0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Is it too late to start? This is what I

0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.840
<v Speaker 1>should have said, yeah, yeah, yeah, like.

0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.479
<v Speaker 2>The damage been done here, like sorry, I sent your

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.679
<v Speaker 2>mate home. But yeah, So it was it was a

0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.440
<v Speaker 2>really fine line of trying to be like you become

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.840
<v Speaker 2>desperate and it's such a quality, but you just you're

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to be like, well I just need the boats,

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 2>and at that point, like nobody was almost giving me

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 2>straight handswasn't everybody does the whole I haven't made up

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 2>my mind at the end of this. At this point

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to end, you have just tell me, tell me the truth.

0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.400
<v Speaker 2>So I know it was it was. It was definitely

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.639
<v Speaker 2>really hard, but it was that like I'm trying to

0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.800
<v Speaker 2>please everybody, like just keep me here.

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.440
<v Speaker 1>People did try to tell you the truth in a way,

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 1>but as you said before, nearly every single person that

0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I've spoken to hers said that you were the laziest

0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and the messiest house mate that was in there. What

0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 1>do you have to say to all those cheeky buggets

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:36.960
<v Speaker 1>for saying that about you?

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Here are the cheeky buggers. Lazy, absolutely not. I was

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 2>running around that house messiest, absolutely absolutely, there is absolutely

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 2>no denying it. But laziest is a hard call, as

0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.399
<v Speaker 2>I would cook a lot. I'm a cooker, I'm not

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 2>a cleaner, so Reggie and I would be in the

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 2>kitchen quite a bit. Like obviously, I feel like you

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 2>barely see it because all you do is see Reggie.

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<v Speaker 2>But she will back me for that. I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to say. But messist, oh yeah, shit was everywhere from

0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:11.120
<v Speaker 2>the bedrooms to the bathrooms to Yeah. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say the laziest HOUSEMATEE would be JC. That is little

0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 2>side side well.

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.639
<v Speaker 1>He said that the other day. I've already spoken to him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to ask you the top ten questions

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>when we get to the end of this. So you've

0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 1>got to go right of reply, my friend. You will

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<v Speaker 1>get can't.

0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait? But no, like I can remember, we're

0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.679
<v Speaker 2>in today twenty one and I walk out and Trevor's like,

0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:32.919
<v Speaker 2>have you washed any of your clothes yet? And I

0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.880
<v Speaker 2>was like nah. He's like, Gabby wear three weeks into

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>this experience and I was like, but I have lots

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 2>of clothes and he was like, go to your room,

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.200
<v Speaker 2>go put some washing on. And then again, all of

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I trotted back and he was like, how

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 2>are you back? And I was like, oh, Johnson's doing it.

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 2>So Johnson said he'd do it. Johnson was like this

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 2>borderline just dad energy, and I'd be like, but what

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 2>does this do? Like what is this button? And he

0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 2>was like I'll do it. I'll do it. And I

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, fair enough, fair enough, I'm not going to

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 2>argue with that.

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:05.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, you had this amazing friendship that we saw

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that was platonic as far as everyone could tell from

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>around Australia watching the show. How did it feel that

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Sam eluded that you had a secret crush on your

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>friend Drew.

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 2>It was one of those moments that you kind of

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like where time freezes and you're just like blinking

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, did I hear that? Ryan? Did this

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.000
<v Speaker 2>just happen? And the way that it looked was as

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.719
<v Speaker 2>if it was just Sam and I there, but originally

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.560
<v Speaker 2>there were two other housemates across from us, And again,

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.719
<v Speaker 2>you keep your cards really close to your chest, so

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want them to know that I was keeping

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Sam because they had originally said they wanted to keep Lulu.

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>So you don't want to tell people where their heads at.

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:49.439
<v Speaker 2>So I get in her scramble of desperation to just

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 2>word vomit. But it was just one of those moments

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.160
<v Speaker 2>are you about to laugh? Is this a joke? Are

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>we kidding? And then to obviously find out that she

0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 2>was being dead serious, one of those moments of like

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 2>in what world? In what world? Which is almost ironic

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 2>as well, because she she focuses on friendships and relationships

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that she read this awfully wrong. I

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>just I was gobsmacked is probably the correct word, which

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 2>again you didn't really get to see afterwards. But Drew

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 2>was again such a just as much as he was

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>this bad boy energy. He hugged me and he was like,

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually really proud of you for standing up for yourself,

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>which was pretty awesome because I was like, well, here

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>goes at friendship, Like I was like, guilty of my association.

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm not talking to you anymore, Drew,

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you're done, I'll send you home. But no, he was

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty awesome about it, which again didn't really get shown.

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 2>But because Sam and I were close, I wasn't just

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 2>friends with her because of Drew. So when she said that,

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I think I kind of worked out. I was like, oh,

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe you don't like me as much as I thought,

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 2>because if you can just say that, yeah, I am

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.919
<v Speaker 2>such a life. I put friendships on pedestals, and so

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.440
<v Speaker 2>me like hanging out with her and Drew predominantly the time,

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 2>but so would everybody, but again, being close with them both,

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>we would spend time together, and then for that to

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 2>be said it almost made me then uncomfortable. I was like,

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>oh maybe our maybe our time is up. And then

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.919
<v Speaker 2>obviously to rehash it, like every everything got put, everything

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 2>got squashed down. She was like, I'm sorry, I didn't

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 2>mean it, like I was just like desperate in my scramble.

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And then obviously we got the hackers question and it

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 2>got asked again, and even the whole house was like,

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 2>this was her opportunity to laugh it off, to like

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of dig herself out of this grave, but she

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 2>just dug herself further.

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You did say though, that Drew was your older brother,

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>so like, you don't get.

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Me wrong, Drew the heart throb that he was nine

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 2>years ago. I think it was Drew and I are

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 2>twelve years apart. If that's your vibe. However, I feel

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>like love Drew his life is. We're at different points,

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 2>at very very different points of life. So yeah, it

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 2>was it just it made everything really uncomfortable then, So

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it was lucky because of close Drew and

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 2>I were that we both just were like, what what

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 2>is this? What is this chick on about?

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Still fairly juicy, and you know, jac said he predicts

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>that there's going to be quite a bit of conflict

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>in the finale. Who do you have any outstanding beef with?

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say it's outstanding, but obviously it was really

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 2>hard because it's very different as well from your time,

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>but we relive everything twice, which is such like it's

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>not a feeling. I feel people get to kind of

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>take on often. So like, as much as it was

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>all done, however many months ago, everything hurts again. So

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>even when we watched the episode of Sam saying that

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>it was like I was there all over again, and

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I thought we had squashed everything and I thought it

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>was all said and done, but she kind of then

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>got onto so many podcasts and so many news articles

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and almost said that I had I did have a

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 2>crush on Drew, which was really hard because I was like,

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>this was meant to be done, this was meant to

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>be over, we were meant to be friends now, and

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 2>she'd obviously after the experience, had apologized so many times,

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and then for her to continue the narrative it was

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 2>really hard. And I just remember talking to her and

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I totally I totally get you need

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>to speak your truth and you need to talk about

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 2>your story. But there's a difference between subjective and objective

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and you stating things like their facts. It's not okay.

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>You can say, oh, I thought Gabby might have or

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>this was my opinion or this is just how I felt,

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 2>but that was never what she did. It was just

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>constant saying Gabby, Yeah, Gabby has a crush on Drew.

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 2>This is fact, this is what happened. So that was

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 2>really hard. So I wouldn't say that's beef. But I

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 2>think Sam and I have as much as she is

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful person. I think we have done our time. Sadly.

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it just shows after the experience I've called.

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, Big brothers like a Kenticky to her. There

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>are people that if you call into their city, you'll

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 2>have lunch with, and there are people that you will

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 2>actively go and see, and she's just not one of

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>those people.

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I love the reference of Big Brother being a Kentiky tour,

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel it? Do you rest?

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been on a kenty tour, but I have

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>been in Big Brother, and I believe that they sound

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>very similar. I think that's why people have relationships in

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Big Brother. It's like a Kentiquy tour. You know, away

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>from home and you need some comfort, and so you

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>just hook up with anything. Fifteen people on this Ki

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>tour I have to be with you are.

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>The best part of this bunch. Thank you, thank you,

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean. And then you get back to

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 2>reality and like life Big Brother compared to real life obviously,

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 2>like life is tough sometimes and you're tested more so. Naturally,

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>those relationships that you found in this mythical, magical land

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>of Kentiki or Big Brother, things just don't work the

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>same way they do on the outside. It's just it's

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>almost like coming to terms of being a realist and

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>being like, ah, this was just what that was.

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Who has the biggest rivalry post show? Who needs Doctor

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Phil the most?

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 2>This is easy, Sam and Drew like, that's not. I

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think they I don't even think they need Doctor

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Feel the most. They will not be They're not gonna

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 2>be friends. They're not friends. So not that we saw

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 2>it coming, but I don't know. Breakups are hard, whether

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>they're with somebody and Big Brother or not. So the

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>fact that I think we all kind of envisioned and

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong. They could be housemaids that were like, no,

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>we thought they were the real deal. Knowing both of

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>them and obviously knowing Drew as well as I do,

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>it was never going to work on the outside and

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>then to have a breakup that sporterline public their breakup wasn't,

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>but obviously their journey on Big Brother was, and then

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the betrayal. I don't think that they will ever be friends.

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's I think that's done.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>That's too much kissing for me, you know. I think

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that there has been also too much talk about head

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and hard players you know in life, you can't be

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>one of two or two of none. The housemates kidding

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>themselves that you are either playing with only head or heart.

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I would say I would say head and

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>heart are two different strategies. But there is borderline this

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>almost I think it's more of a concept of everybody's

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>playing a really honest game. You physically cannot play this

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>pure game in Big Brother. You can't. You have to

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>tell people you want them there when you probably don't,

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>or tell people this, or tell people that. The head

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and heart thing I feel like has just been blown

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>out of proportion. I do feel like people use one

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>more than the other. But it's still a strategy, Like

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>there's no whether you're a really head player that is

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 2>super strategic and really focusing on what is bettering their

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>game in comparison to a heart player that is kind

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of like, well, if I keep my friends in, they're

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>not going to vote me out anyway, So that's still

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a strategy. But there became this awfully like moral high

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 2>horse of like, well, I've played with the most integrity

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and I've played a really honest game when nobody can,

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>like even bless Reggie, I remember one of the eviction rooms.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>She sat there and she was like, OHI everybody just

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>tells porky pies. And I said, Reggie, I asked you

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>were voting for and you lied to me. And she

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh yeah, I've read bless Her, but like

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>no one, no one can sit in that house on

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a moral high horse and be like I am squeaky clean.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what people would misinterpret of like

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>head and heart, there was no one. There was no

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 2>one that was better than the other, nothing with Like

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>being a strategic head player didn't make you a bad guy,

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>and being a heart one didn't make you some superhero.

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>They were both different. They were both strategies. Neither one

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>deserved to be a good or bad one.

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Just true. It's driving me insane because it's just going

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.479
<v Speaker 1>on and on and on. You know, I've only played

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>with heart. You know I've only played with my head.

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, acknowledge that they're both strategies, don't wrong. I

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 2>still I still think head and heart two different strategies.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>One's not bad, one's not great. But there's this moral

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>there's even a sort of high horse of like, oh

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 2>will I play with my head? So I'm this big, bad,

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>strong player, and I'm like, you can play with your

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>heart and be strategic af Like, I feel like I

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>tried to be my best even when I threw my boat,

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to try and work out a way to get through

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 2>out of that mix. That wasn't I wouldn't say I'm

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>a headplayer, but that was like, my friend's in danger,

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I need to get him out. So I feel like

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>it's this really fine line of like you're either one

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>of the strongest and the badest, being this super crazy

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>head player, or you're this heart player that's like, oh,

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you're one of the good ones, but you're really soft

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and you don't play the game. So I really struggle

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 2>with it.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's a good strategy though, because if you're constantly

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>in the diary room saying that you're one, and people

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>will identify with someone's you know, I like someone who's

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>more strategic, or I like someone who's more emotional or empathetic.

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, like you're playing into your demographics. So it

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>builds a storyline that I can see is worth while doing.

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But I just think in the real world, I just

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like we are all operating as humans and we

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>need both and in life, we make decisions with our

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>head and with our heart. You can't separate them. You

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>can't stop doing it, can't stop.

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Being a humans, being a person. Absolutely not.

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>You were, you know, scrambling with Estelle and Tim, and

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I was watching you in those relationships. Who was more

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.959
<v Speaker 1>trustworthy in the house out of those two, because I mean,

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>they're the biggest players of the game in my mind

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>watching the show as we're drawing to an end, we're

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>getting more and more of Tim and Estelle. But from

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>your perspective as a newbie, who could you trust the most?

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a hard one, because I was obviously close

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>with both, Like Tim is this Tim is this unpredictable

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>player you never like even in not last night's episode

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 2>than night before, I said, I said, I knew you

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>were going to save Johnson, but I just wanted it

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to be me, so like a part of you always

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>knew he was predictable in his unpredictability, and it was

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>really hard to kind of trust. But then I had

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>a Stelle, and I knew how close she was with Reggie,

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and there were always rumors going around that Estelle knew

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that I that Reggie, and that all the og has

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>been putting those points on me about halfway through the experience,

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>so to be fair, towards the end, I trusted neither

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 2>of them the same amount. Look which sounds horrible, but

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember sitting the diary chair lost. As soon as

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I lost Drew, I said, I said, if I go up,

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I go home, and people would be like, oh, but

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Drew said this and Drew and I was like, no, like,

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I know Drew has my back. He will tell you

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to hear, but I know the end

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>of the day that he will save me. Where Stelle

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I'm playing for two because I'm playing

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>for Reggie as well, and Tim is like, I just

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 2>do whatever I want. It was it was really hard

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>to kind of, I guess, work out where I stood

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>with both of them. And obviously Estelle and Drew had

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 2>beef throughout the experience. He jumped to newbies. Stelle didn't

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 2>like that, so it was it was really hard, and

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>especially after the vote where I had thrown my vote

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>to try and save Drew. I can remember Stell and

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Reggie were just so angry and I was so confused

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>because little me was like, I just tried to save

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>my friend. Why is it this big deal? We didn't

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>want girls to go up. No girls went up, like

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I was so sure, and I'm me just being like hi,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>why me and my head, I'm like, get over it,

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Come up, We've got a game to play, like move

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>on next. But no, they would hold on to that

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>with their life. And so I knew a Stelle never

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>really not trusted me again, but I just knew that

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>she she wasn't happy with my decision and she needs

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>to save Reggie, which obviously, like Reggie continually is like

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Gabby's coming for me, and I've never shown that well.

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think you did very well to have gotten to

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>where you've gotten to in the competition. I think it's

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a really tough competition. I think you've been amazing to

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.919
<v Speaker 1>watch and to watch you sort of navigate so many

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>different relationships, you know. And then also, as you've we've

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>talked about in this podcast, not only did you live

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>this experience six months ago, you've had this you know,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>impending doom, and then now you're watching it all unfold

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and you're reading about it in the media. What is

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the biggest load of shit that you've read about in

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the media since they've started talking about.

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 2>It well too. My first one is mine personally, where

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Sam would continue to say that I had a crush

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>on Drew, absolutely lies. I don't know how many time,

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>like I'll say for the people at the back, I

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>do not have a crush on Drew. I'm very grateful

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to have Drew in my life as my big brother,

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 2>but that is where our relationship kind of ends. In fact,

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I now know Drew's new girlfriend recently well, and I

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>adore her, So yeah, that needs that makes me nipped

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>in the absolute butt ASA. And then the most recent

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 2>one I've seen is this like big, big fight between

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Tully and Drew. I don't know if you've seen it

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 2>in anywhere, but I think it spoke about like Tully

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>would never get work again. It was really horrific, And

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>either I was in the diary room or I was

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 2>mining own business, which is very often, but I never

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>saw this fight happen.

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask you to celebrate Big Brother Bang

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>on you know, television for twenty one years. We're going

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to go through some rapid fire questions.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>So just just like twenty one questions, I'm ready to.

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into this alright, are you ready.

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and it's really fast.

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>What did you miss the most while you're inside the

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Big Brother House?

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 2>A hair dryer?

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>You know that they can't let you have a hair

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>dryer because girls often gossip they're using the hair dryer,

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and so they don't want you to talk over the top.

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.359
<v Speaker 1>You know they're going to lose the audio. Who was Yeah?

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I added the last part on which is probably absolute rubbish,

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and everyone listening knows that. Who was your favorite person

0:35:58.239 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>inside the house?

0:35:59.160 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Trevor.

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Who was your least favorite person in the house?

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Lara, Okay, that's right.

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>She said you anyway, so tip to.

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Tap even perfect?

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Who had I'm making that up, by the way, Gabby,

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what she said.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Probably would be you would not be wrong.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm a terrible person. I've thrown something on the

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>fire and I should have. Who had the most annoying habit.

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Any of the boys, because they would shave and leave

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 2>it anywhere? So probably Johnson Johnson and shaving.

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Who was the funniest person in the house.

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I hate saying it, but Tim saying it because Tim

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>knows he's funny. He doesn't need anybody to tell him.

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>He knows do you reckon He's sitting around listening to

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>these podcasts, though he would have him.

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 2>On record before bedtime. Gabby thought I was funny.

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who was the laziest person in the house, jaz No,

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>What is your greatest regret?

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>My biggest regret was putting a point on Trevor.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I can't believe you did that still

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to thisame.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>It was between my best my best friend at the

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 2>time in the house and Trevor, and he had pulled

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>us aside and said, don't you dare And it didn't

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 2>make the air, but I was in that diary room

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>for too long. But no, my biggest regret is putting

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:16.280
<v Speaker 2>a point.

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>On Trevor because it was you against Trevor and Alisha Ryan.

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I came out with I think one point,

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 2>so I was I was the little safety vote.

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>What's your friendship like with Alisha Nout? Is it the

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>same as what it was in the house.

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like it's always really hard watching it back and

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>then kind of seeing like, oh she was coming for me.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh she did want me out. But no, we don't

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>get to see each other as much as I'd like.

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Obviously we'd work and stuff, but No, we're still I

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>still say we're close.

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's still on the Christmas list. Is she going

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to send her a Christmas card?

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Who will be out next week? Like, not what you

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>know now? But who did you think leaving the competition

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>would be the next to leave?

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be between any of

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you OG's. I knew was going to win the challenge.

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 2>It was going to be Terrass or Brenton who would

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>win as physically really strong players. So any the Ogs

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>will be out next And.

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>The best question of all time is who will win

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Big Brother twenty twenty two.

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 2>If any OG makes it to the end, they will win.

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.720
<v Speaker 2>So newbies who are left in their play hard, play smart,

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and get the Ogs out because otherwise absolutely no hope

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 2>in winning over Estelle, who had such a different experience

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 2>last time around coming third. I feel like when people

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>don't win, they want you to win. And Estelle wins,

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm more than confident she has it in the bag.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Queen Reggie, that statement in itself explains everything and the

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 2>mastermind that Tim is. As much as you want to

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>hate him for being incredible at this game, you have

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 2>to admire it too. I remember before going in because

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 2>obviously I had knew Tim. They said, if you would

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>play like any ex housemate, who would you play like?

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And I said, I'd like to play like Tim because

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Tim makes moves and gets away with murder. And I

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 2>was like, I feel like I get away with so

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 2>much in my life. I could do this.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>It's been so much time since my time in Big

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Brother that I'm now watching it purely as if. And

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it's so weird because I watch it and I'm like,

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to do Big Brother and I'm like, what

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you've done Big Brother? You won Big Brother And I'm like, no,

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>but I want to do this, but it's just been

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>so long since that, you know. I just I've watching

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 1>it completely differently. Like Estelle. I think that she's amazing,

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sitting there going, oh my god, this woman

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>is amazing and I'm like, no, you lived with her

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and she was a nightmare. But I'm like, no, she's changed,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>she's amazing.

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>You're like I've been in there with her.

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm like, no, what she stands for and

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I champion her and I've got an Estelle t shirt?

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ihart a Stelle.

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>My last question is something I ask everyone, what is

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>something from behind the scenes of Big Brother that we

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 1>as an audience didn't see that we will not see

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>something of a behind the scenes secret, something happened that

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 1>audiences would love to know.

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 2>The biggest ones were like the silence that would have

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:56.439
<v Speaker 2>to come when nominating. So when we'd all get sat

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>down on the lounge and have to nominate, it was

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>like dead silent. It's dead silence. You couldn't speak to anybody,

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 2>you couldn't look at anybody. And then when they were

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 2>obviously tallying them up to work out who's gonna pop

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 2>up on the screen and who's going to be two

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>points for Gabby, you still had to be in dead silence.

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 2>So we would be waiting for maybe like an hour

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to finally hear the verdict of who was being nominated

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and where all the votes went. But like dead silence,

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the quietest you would ever see the Big Brother house

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 2>was in those moments.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>How bad a mathematician is Big Brother? I mean, there's

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of numbers to that up.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, my big Brother. I give me a

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 2>calculator and I can help you if you love, Like

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I can't do the tech you stuff

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>that's for you, but or in my head, I'm just like,

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 2>just tell me if.

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 1>It's me, Gabby. I've been looking forward to chatting with

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you the whole time because I just thought that you

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>were fantastic on the show, and I knew i'd get

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a good gossip out of you. It's been so much fun.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>You haven't disappointed.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Yay. That makes my heart so happy. I all I

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted was to come across how I am, and I

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>can confirm on the screen in real life where the

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>same little person. So I'm really glad. M