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Speaker 1: The Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wood it's very rare. I mean, we're on fire recently.

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Speaker 2: Well not us analyst. The guestbooker on the show is

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Speaker 2: we had Billy Eilish last week, and this week we

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Speaker 2: sit down with with arguably her predecessor in terms of

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Speaker 2: Queen of Pop. I mean, she's probably the probably the

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Speaker 2: Queen regent, and Billy is probably the princess at the moment,

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Speaker 2: although you know, very much on her way to being

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Speaker 2: queen hard sort of fig and Madonna's probably know the

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Speaker 2: queen mother. But anyway, they're a royal family, big members

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Speaker 2: of the royal family of Pop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And we have.

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Speaker 3: Spoken to both of them within the span of two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so we did do this earlier, yep. But here is

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Speaker 3: our chat with did we call her queen in the

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Speaker 3: end Queen of Pop?

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Speaker 2: Not face lady, lady the lady yeh, that makes it

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Speaker 2: the Lady of Gaga.

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Speaker 1: Oh great, cool?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we're really well, thanks mate, We're it

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Speaker 2: is six o'clock in the morning here, so we've kind

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Speaker 2: of like it's pretty funny. We both walk up and

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Speaker 2: I was like, did you dream about Lady Gaga last night.

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Speaker 4: What he was like, Yep, coffees the minute you walked down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one d percent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think about it.

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Speaker 5: I just like, before I even talk, I'm just drinking espress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. It was a weird morning. We're both

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Speaker 2: out here in my backyard drinking coffee and talking about

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Speaker 2: our dreams of you, which I never thought would happened,

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Speaker 2: But here we are.

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Speaker 6: We feel like we know you quite well actually, because

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Speaker 6: we've dreamt about you all night.

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy for that.

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Speaker 2: Entirely platonic, by the way, Like I don't want this

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Speaker 2: to sound sick in any in any way, they were

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Speaker 2: they were yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, A friendly dream, A.

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Speaker 2: Friendly dream, A friendly A very friendly dream. Sorry, not

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Speaker 2: very friendly jee friendly anyway. Hey, mate, let's talk about Mayhem.

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Speaker 2: I'm really interested because I saw an l magazine that

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Speaker 2: you said that this is the first record whereby you

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Speaker 2: kind of tapped into your persona rather than the Lady

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Speaker 2: Gaga persona. And I know that you've to write where

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Speaker 2: the music has come from. And I've and i've and

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Speaker 2: I've heard you talk a lot about your mental health,

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Speaker 2: and I know that Gaga is you know, and I

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Speaker 2: imagine I've had a lot of mental health issues as well,

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Speaker 2: a beautiful shield at times and a beautiful mask for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just really and obviously there's the track Disease on there,

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Speaker 2: which is about you sort of confronting you in the darkness,

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Speaker 2: and I just wanted to know, like, did you was

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Speaker 2: there a moment where you got to the piano. Imagine

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Speaker 2: you're in there pounding coffees, dreaming of Will and Woody

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Speaker 2: at six am in the morning. Did you did you

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Speaker 2: sit down and you were like, oh, like this is

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Speaker 2: this is Stephanie at the piano today, Like.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that what I realized is that

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Speaker 5: this like style of music that I started when I

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Speaker 5: was a teenager, it's like a huge part of who

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Speaker 5: I am, and that I like hearted in a way

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Speaker 5: after my first few studio albums, I think because part

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Speaker 5: of the job is like people are going to criticize

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Speaker 5: your music, and I actually love that part of it

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Speaker 5: in a way because I.

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Speaker 4: Like, I like want to know what people think.

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Speaker 5: You know, I realize that I've always had these kind

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Speaker 5: of like these like dark dreams since I was a kid,

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Speaker 5: and my music is an expression of those dark dreams,

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Speaker 5: and I like try to find a way to turn

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Speaker 5: in a way, yeah, I did feel like you know, Stephanie,

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Speaker 5: But I think also I'm I'm kind, I'm both now,

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Speaker 5: I'm both now, and I don't I don't feel like

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Speaker 5: a separation between myself as an artist and as a woman.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I'm a female artist and I don't

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Speaker 5: feel the need to play a character in the same way.

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Speaker 5: But that's also because I integrated the character fully into

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the same when you step

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Speaker 6: out onto the stage, Gaga? Like is it you know,

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Speaker 3: Both of you walking out onto the stage or is

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Speaker 3: the same person walking out or is that still Gaga?

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Speaker 5: No, I think it's it's both because it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: And you've got no control over that, like you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh Jesus, like back off, Gaga, like who are you today?

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Speaker 4: Kind of.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was like there was definitely like ten

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Speaker 5: years of my life where I was like in my

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Speaker 5: twenties and I just was like traveling, and you know,

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Speaker 5: my life really revolved around my career. And you know,

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Speaker 5: it's nice. I'm thirty eight now. It's it's nice to

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Speaker 5: like have a full life that encompasses like my friendships

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Speaker 5: and like my family Moore and in my life that

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Speaker 5: I care about, and when I take that person on

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Speaker 5: stage with me, I can also bring like that kind

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Speaker 5: of warmth to the audience. It's both right and because

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I didn't find it fulfilling when everything

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Speaker 5: was all about my career. But I do view like

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Speaker 5: making music as a gift to fans as.

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Speaker 4: Like a huge privilege.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm so excited for my album to come out

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Speaker 5: because I'm just like, I made.

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Speaker 4: This thing for you that I really want. I really

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Speaker 4: should have a good time listening too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 6: I want to touch on that idea of the making

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Speaker 6: of the musicgard I've heard you say before that when

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Speaker 6: you are making music, you actually listen, like you you

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Speaker 6: are listening to the melody that will come to you.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious to know, is that something that you turn

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Speaker 6: on and off or does it hit you at really

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Speaker 6: inconvenient times, like the grocery shopping or something, and you'll

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden like, oh no, I've got a

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Speaker 6: banger in my head.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it can hit it inconvenient times for sure. And

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Speaker 5: when I'm I'm writing a lot, it comes a lot

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Speaker 5: more frequently. It's like so cute, like when I'm with

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Speaker 5: my man, Like like when I'm with Michael, like we'll

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Speaker 5: be doing something and if I've been working like all day,

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Speaker 5: and then I like have another idea.

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Speaker 4: I'm like he likes see, He's like, just go do it,

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Speaker 4: like he know, He's like, I have to like go

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Speaker 2: What's the most inconvenient time that that's sort of come

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Speaker 4: I mean probably probably like when I'm.

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Speaker 2: Asleep, Oh sure, yeah, yeah it's.

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Speaker 5: But I sleep with the phone by the bed, and

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Speaker 5: then like sometimes like Michael will just hear me being like.

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Speaker 2: This is like you would be in the other room

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Speaker 3: Yeah how often? How is that always something good as well?

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Speaker 3: Because sometimes I have a little notepad by my by

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Speaker 3: my bed and I'll write down but I think he's

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Speaker 3: a good joke or something, a good radio idea, and

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Speaker 3: then I wake up and go, oh my god, that's

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Speaker 4: Down in a while.

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Speaker 5: I guess every once in a while I hear it

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Speaker 5: a genius at three am, and this is horrible.

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Speaker 2: Two very quick questions for you. Firstly, acting. Your acting

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Speaker 2: is amazing, obviously loved House of Girchie, Star is Born

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Speaker 2: is incredible. I saw after you did Joker most recently

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Speaker 2: that the director was saying that you and Joaquin in

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Speaker 2: a league of your own, and I just think it's

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Speaker 2: fascinating that you've just kind of, you know, sort of

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Speaker 2: turned around and taken over the you know, the acting realm,

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Speaker 2: and you know, to hear someone say that you're in

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Speaker 2: a league of your own with Joaquin fanish. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Meryl Streep was furious about that, But do you are

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Speaker 2: there other people who I think Winslet was furious, but

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Speaker 2: were you kind of like, are you looking at there

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Speaker 2: are other careers that should be shaking in their boots

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Speaker 2: because it just feels like whatever you turn your attention to,

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Speaker 2: your dominate. So should the accountants of the world be

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Speaker 4: So no, you know, like world domination. It's not really

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Speaker 5: Like I honestly I love making films, I love making music,

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Speaker 4: Writing, I love makeup.

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Speaker 5: You know, like I'm I think the thing I like

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Speaker 5: with quality, kid, And I think the thing that I

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Speaker 4: Of what you love, working really hard.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just excited to like make stuff and you know,

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Speaker 5: fully some people will like it. They don't always, but

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Speaker 5: you know, like all you can do is like try

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Speaker 5: to contribute to culture. And I really love my fans

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Speaker 5: and I'm excited for them to hear my new music

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Speaker 5: and see the new projects I'm working on, and you'd

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Speaker 3: Okay, my sister has been bugging me for a number

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Speaker 3: of weeks about talking about a particular subject on this

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Speaker 3: radio show. She thinks it'll be groundbreaking, she thinks it'll

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Speaker 3: change radio forever. My sister joins us.

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Speaker 2: On the show Massive right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sarah, Welcome, Hey, we're bloody doing it.

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Speaker 1: But I've talked it up.

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Speaker 2: He's really put you up during here, Sarah. I feel

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Speaker 2: for Sarah.

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Speaker 3: You've been saying to me though, Sarah, I think this

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Speaker 3: will be gold has she?

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Speaker 2: Have you actually said that, Sarah? What it's going to

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Speaker 2: be the best radio idea ever?

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Speaker 1: No, I never said that.

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Speaker 3: He said it would be strong. He said it would

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Speaker 3: be strong. Anyway, we're about to find out as well.

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Speaker 3: But Sarah, I feel like I won't do it justice.

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Speaker 3: Can you tell everyone what you want to talk about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So just it's a background. What's about Facebook? Marketplace romance?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And the reasons came about was my husband went and

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Speaker 1: picked up a suit backpack.

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Speaker 2: And sorry, sorry, what the hell.

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: I lovely? He's a lovely guy that I wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: telling everyone. He's got a backpack on his suit.

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Speaker 5: That's sorry, that's.

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Speaker 1: Bold, his suit in this backpack, go into work in

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Speaker 1: his gym clothes whatever, and then the suit's not creased.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant. I think it's brilliant anyway, So he's going on, Sarah,

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Speaker 3: just could what does Luke do?

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Speaker 1: It looks the value a property value.

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Speaker 2: A checks out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, needs no creases any suit Anyway, so he's going

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Speaker 3: to buy a suit backpack and then what happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Anyway gets the backpack and I think he

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Speaker 1: went through it in front of her like when you know,

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Speaker 1: And then I was like oh and then he's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, then see it's flat with me and I

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Speaker 1: was like sorry, what and then he was joking. He's

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Speaker 1: like I'm joking. I was like, okay, But I was like,

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Speaker 1: imagine if this actually happens, right, Like, people do this

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Speaker 1: on purpose, they post something on Marketplace in the hope

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Speaker 1: to meet someone.

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Speaker 3: Right here we.

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Speaker 1: Go, there's that. But then also I want to know

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Speaker 1: has anyone actually ever met on marketplace? Not doing it intentionally,

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Speaker 1: because I'm like, it's very you know, I'm selling something, Oh,

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Speaker 1: come into my house and what maybe you might just connect.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to know if anyone has met.

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Speaker 3: But it feels like a fantasy of yours. So I said,

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Speaker 3: I know that's but it just feels that way. Sarah.

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Speaker 3: You're you're very confident this is going to be a

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Speaker 3: great bit.

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Speaker 1: Was that well.

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Speaker 3: I think given that you were pitching it for for

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Speaker 3: weeks and weeks and weeks you were calling it, you said,

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Speaker 3: do a call up topic where people can can call

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Speaker 3: up and talk about the time that they were on

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Speaker 3: Facebook Marketplace and they effectively hooked up.

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Speaker 2: Because of Marketplace. Yeah, okay, because it happened, because it

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Speaker 2: happened to your husband when he was playing a suit backpack,

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Speaker 2: real item. Everyone real, that's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: He put it back and there was in that's the

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Speaker 3: best thing, and the divorced woman who was selling it, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Slurtigris started flirting with him.

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Speaker 3: So, Sarah, I do want to inform you that nobody

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Speaker 3: has called up to answer that question.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this. I've been doing this show for

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Speaker 3: seven years, Sarah, and this is the first topic where

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Speaker 3: no one has called up.

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Speaker 1: You're having me on. This is a prank on, Sertain.

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Speaker 1: I showed the running off the hook right now, you're lying.

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Speaker 3: I can take a photo for you. We do have

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Speaker 3: one person here though, who would like to comment on

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Speaker 3: what you've just done. It's our brother Tom.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me all right, Just so.

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Speaker 3: You know, Sarah has pitched the topic and no one

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Speaker 3: called It was a massive fail.

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Speaker 1: Pathetic Sarah