1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: This is gam nation. We're jonesy and man, let's get 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: on dad to the jonesy demand of arms for the 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: pub test. Banning new petrol and diesel cars within five years. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: Does this pass the pub test? 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: This is a radical plan from a think tank, a 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: committee for Sydney. This is an urban policy think tank 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: made up of business leaders infrastructure experts to try and 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: come up with some proposals to have our carbon dark 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: side emissions by twenty thirty. One of the things is 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: banning new petrol and diesel cars within five years. We 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: just got and we accept that at the moment our 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: infrastructure is not set up for it. There would have 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: to be radical changes to our infrastructure to be able 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: to do this. We've got an email from Donald saying 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: have a look at this. He had his hybrid battery replaced. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Come much, Brendan, Have you looked down the line? 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Okay, labor twelve hundred bucks, that's deep coolant thirty three 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: dollars to the juicyb battery twenty six eight hundred and 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: fifty three dollars and ninety nine cents. WHOA so all 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: up twenty nine thousand dollars to do. 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: To replace the battery. 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: In the old days cars used to run on steam 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: and in the old days we used to use whale 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: oil to supply stuff. And I think down the track 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: one day we will have all electric cars. It's not 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: happening in five years. 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, we have to have some kind of impetus to 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: do it, and I think we have to be made 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: to do it. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Maybe, Well it killed Bill Shorten's election chances did. 31 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: This is what Scott Morrison said just before the election trailer. 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: It's not going to tell your boat. It's not going 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: to get you out to your favorite camping spot with 34 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: your family. Bill Shorten wants to end the weekend when 35 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: it comes to his policy on electric vehicles. 36 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: Well, this has been my gripe is that we had 37 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: that government in power for nine years, so no big 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: investment was done in alternative energies. 39 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: And for all the camps. 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: It should be further along by now. 41 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: The new Harley Davidson, the live Wire, that's quite a 42 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: unique motorcycle and that is the future. It's totally different. 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: Countries all around the world are doing this. We have 44 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: been behind the eight ball because we have had to 45 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: start again. You know, we haven't had the impetus or 46 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: the investment to do this properly. So here we are 47 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: four years later with this kind of proposal. Is it 48 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: possible banning new petrol and diesel cars within five years 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: to pass the pub test? 50 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't pass the pub test. Electricity grid is 51 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: suffering already. If you put another couple of million cars 52 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: being charge, how's that going to code? You can't travel 53 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: from Queensland to New South Wales or even beyond just 54 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: an electric vehicle. We don't have enough charging stations. There's 55 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: too much space between major cities. Our technology that we 56 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: have in regards to all the electric stuff, we need 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: the fossil fuels to charge it all because the other 58 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: mediums come nowhere near cutting it. This whole new technology 59 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: they're trying to bet on it doesn't exist yet next 60 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: five years at too soon, that's not going to happen. 61 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: I believe for some people like us that do several 62 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: hundred kilometers a day being self employed, it doesn't pass 63 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: the pub test. We can't really charge the vehicles, and 64 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: our politicians they just haven't thought about this at all. No, 65 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: because at the moment all cars are charge is burning 66 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: coal anyway. Eighty two percent of all all the electricity 67 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: coming out of your powerpoints is eighty two percent burnt coal. No, 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't pass a pub test. How much pollution does 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: it create to make the electric cars rather than just 70 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: running the petrol cars at the moment, No it doesn't. 71 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: How are five people in the family going to charge 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: five cars when they come home from work? How are 73 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: you supposed to tow a caravan or a truck? And I 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: agree with Scott Morrison, it's going to ruin your weekend away. 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: There you go, Hey you go? Are you going to 76 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: move the camera to charge the Tiranta? 77 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Oh they've got their work cut out for them. 78 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for all your calls.