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Speaker 1: We know that over the weekend so many of you

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Speaker 1: were in contact to say that you were unable to

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Speaker 1: get your hands on groceries and essentials due to the

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Speaker 1: lack of stock on supermarket shelves. Now we know that

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Speaker 1: flooding in South Australia is obviously having a big impact.

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Speaker 1: And joining me on the line is the chief executive

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Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory Road Transport Association, Louise Belato. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, Good morning Katie. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Louise, What is the

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Speaker 1: situation right now when it comes to that flooding in

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Speaker 1: South Australia and the impact that it's having on the territory.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the road at Glen Dambo is still closed. It's

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Speaker 2: got about four hundred mills of water over it at

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Speaker 2: the moment. But the test run that they did on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: they've got a number of concerns about culbts that have

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Speaker 2: been washed away, so they've maintained their closure and that

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Speaker 2: could be a number of more days before they've even

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Speaker 2: got a chance to actually do a full inspection. Fortunately,

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Speaker 2: the Stewart Highway at Glen Dambo will remain closed the

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Speaker 2: concern with that is the weather that's coming that could

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Speaker 2: just exacerbate the situation there. But one of our transport operators,

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Speaker 2: I've said this in the media already that ABC and

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Speaker 2: Gilberts they generally run two hundred and ten fridge vans

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Speaker 2: of foodstocks into the territory every week, and so that's

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Speaker 2: seventy odd road trains and they also move two hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty containers of drygoods off the rail. So the

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Speaker 2: rail being closed means that that drygoods is just stuck

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Speaker 2: in Adelaide, and they've had to make decisions around prioritizing

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Speaker 2: freight to come to the territory because they're now doing

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Speaker 2: the three thousand kilometer round trip going through New South

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Speaker 2: National Heavy Vehicle Regulator has made an emergency power's decision

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Speaker 2: to allow triple road trains through New South Wales into Queensland,

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Speaker 2: which is good for us. But the tricky thing is

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Speaker 2: that parts of the Barkley have been shut at different times.

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Speaker 2: But we understand that the ABC Gilbert's trucks that did

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Speaker 2: leave Adelaide on Friday are still expected to get here

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Speaker 2: late tonight. Or early tomorrow morning, So in spite of

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Speaker 2: the road closures, they are in the right place at

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Speaker 2: the right time. But that just depends on whether there's

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Speaker 2: any further series weather coming through on the Barkley.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'll tell you what firstly, you know, before I

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Speaker 1: ask you more questions. I want to say the biggest

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Speaker 1: shout out to those truckies, all of those people right

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Speaker 1: make sure that you know that they are still able

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Speaker 1: to transport freight and doing everything they can to try

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Speaker 1: and get it to the Northern Territory. So if they're

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Speaker 1: listening in those vehicles this morning, we want to say

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Speaker 1: a massive, massive thank you to them. Louise, can I

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Speaker 1: just ask you, said, seventy odd road trains that obviously

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Speaker 1: come in every week with all of that stock, how

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Speaker 1: many are we expecting to arrive this week?

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Speaker 2: Well, depending on the road conditions, maybe a dozen. But

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Speaker 2: I know that some of the retailers have increased the

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Speaker 2: number of trucks with foodstocks coming out of Brisbane as well,

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Speaker 2: So they've normally got some foodstocks coming out of Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: A lot do come out of Adelaide, but they've re

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Speaker 2: rooted their demand to bring more out of Brisbane at

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Speaker 2: the moment to try and assist the you know, the

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Speaker 2: just as long as the Barkley stays open, hopefully whatever

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Speaker 2: still be relatively short periods, unlike the South Australian which

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Speaker 2: is closed. But yeah, the other news yesterday was that

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Speaker 2: our freight also come up through Perth to Darwin. Not

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Speaker 2: as much obviously perishables, but certainly a whole range of

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Speaker 2: other freight. Yeah, there's predicted to be a lot of

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Speaker 1: So it does sound as though, I mean, just sort

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Speaker 1: of looking at those numbers, if we usually have seventy

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, we are still going to be

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Speaker 2: And that's just food in fridge vans. So part of

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Speaker 2: the problem is that the supply chain with the trucks

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Speaker 2: you know, Darwin to Adelaide line hall is very consistent

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Speaker 2: at the same time that they normally do, when we

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Speaker 2: would then expect on a Tuesday night or a Friday

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Speaker 2: the dynamic completely. So that's an extra four days of

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Speaker 1: Louise, are you expecting like a we're going to reach

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Speaker 1: a bit of a crisis point here.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were very concerned yesterday about the the state

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Speaker 2: of the road and where those trucks that have been,

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Speaker 2: as you said, doing a phenomenal job to get here

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Speaker 2: to be able to alleviate the shortage where they were

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Speaker 2: right now, it's looking okay, but this incredible weather event

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Speaker 2: that's happening all across the country could really slow things down.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully this week we will see some small

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Speaker 2: very hard to predict where this weather will stop the road.

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Speaker 1: Well that's exactly right. None of us can really. We

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Speaker 1: can all try, but we can't predict exactly what's going

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Speaker 1: demonstrate a bit of a vulnerability for us here in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and it begs the question, really, do

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Speaker 1: we need to flood proof the Stuart Highway?

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Speaker 2: Well that's been my thing. I mean, you never waste

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Speaker 2: a good crisis, but we do need to look at

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Speaker 2: those sections of the Stuart Highway between Dwen and Adelaide

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Speaker 2: that are notoriously bad. I mean, certainly the section at

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Speaker 2: Glen Danbo hasn't gone down since the eighties to this extent.

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Speaker 2: But it's well known that the road goes through a

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Speaker 2: So you know that should be have been a forward

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Speaker 2: planned to be rectified a long time ago. Two hundred

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Speaker 2: of dry goods into the supermarkets, well that's just sitting

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Speaker 2: done at the moment is to get the perishables and

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Speaker 2: other food stuff up here. But that will need to happen,

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Speaker 2: and you know, as the road opens again, hopefully that

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Speaker 2: those dry goods will come north because the rail is

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Speaker 2: going to take that much longer to repair.

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Speaker 1: Louise. It does sound like it's a really difficult situation.

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Speaker 1: I know that everybody in the industry is really doing

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Speaker 1: know that we do get those goods here to the

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Speaker 1: northern Territory. To anybody out there listening this morning, I

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Speaker 1: quite worried. You know, what would you say to them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we do need to reassure territory orients

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Speaker 2: that the road transport industry is doing absolutely everything that

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Speaker 2: they can and have got you know, additional pieces of

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Speaker 2: equipment some elsewhere to address this task. And stopping or

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Speaker 2: being held up at you know, at creeks and river

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Speaker 2: crossings isn't unusual at this time of year, but it's

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Speaker 2: just they know the combination of things which have really

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Speaker 2: put a huge strain on the you know what's in

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Speaker 2: the shops. But yeah, as I say, everything that is

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Speaker 2: being that can be done is being done at the moment.

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Speaker 2: The road transport industry is taking it very very seriously

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Speaker 2: and is applying all they can to resolve the problem.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think we need to worry about

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Speaker 2: air right in Darwin right now, but certainly for medical

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Speaker 2: supplies and things which are you know, critical time requirements,

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Speaker 2: that's something that you know business as might choose to

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Speaker 2: do is to put things on the air. Certainly the

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Speaker 2: mail is not going to get through as easy if

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Speaker 2: you've seen the things Land Transport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Louise Belato, the Northern Territory Transport Association Chief Executive,

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate your time. It sounds as I we'll

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Speaker 1: probably have another chat throughout the week. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: speaking with us this morning, and like I said, a

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Speaker 1: big thank you to everybody working in the industry right

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Speaker 1: now doing their best to try to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we are able to get all that stock here to

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Speaker 1: the territory.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's Louise Blato there, the Northern Territory Transport Association chief executive.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take a really quick break and when

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Speaker 1: we come back we're going to be catching up with

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Speaker 1: the Education Union's Adam Lampe