Speaker 1: Laura.
Speaker 2: Come on, hello, everyone, welcome to Thursday Thursday.
Speaker 1: She's been doing over there, Laura. No, it's not my
Speaker 1: dance moves. I have a real problem, guys, and I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Do about it. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is my daughter's. Unfortunately, so Molly May. She's
Speaker 1: almost five, she turns five next month. She has become
Speaker 1: obsessed with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: Swift along with everyone else in the world.
Speaker 1: No, but like, the obsession runs so deep, and I
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that she kind of like transcends
Speaker 1: different age groups. I didn't quite realize how obsessed a
Speaker 1: five year old could be, but.
Speaker 4: Anyway, she was.
Speaker 1: She's watched, like, listens to the album, puts it on
Speaker 1: the car, plays at home, and then on Disney Plas.
Speaker 1: I found that they have the whole Errors Toll like
Speaker 1: a concert filmed, and I was like, oh, Molly would
Speaker 1: love to watch this, So I put it on. I thought,
Speaker 1: surely I've been to the concert, it's age appropriate.
Speaker 4: She'll love it.
Speaker 1: Turns out Taylor Swift is not age appropriate because my
Speaker 1: five year old is now dancing like she thinks she's
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4: And I'm talking she's like dropping it to the floor.
Speaker 1: She's doing this body roll thing where she like runs
Speaker 1: her hands up her thigh.
Speaker 3: I know the kindness my go to movie and now.
Speaker 1: I yeah, okay for you to do it, brit I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do because I don't want to
Speaker 1: make her feel embarrassed. I don't want to shame her,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure as hell don't want her doing it
Speaker 1: at a birthday party.
Speaker 4: Can you just.
Speaker 3: Imagine if everyone else is just like doing past the
Speaker 3: parcel and she's just twirking, she's dropping it like it's hard.
Speaker 2: It could be worse, though, I mean, Taylor's lot kind
Speaker 2: of a bee. It's in terms of sexiness, Like it's
Speaker 2: not Miley Cyrus.
Speaker 3: But but a five year old doing a body roll
Speaker 3: and like pulling their hands up their body.
Speaker 5: She's not nailing it. Doesn't look she does.
Speaker 4: She nails it.
Speaker 1: She's pretty good, but she like she like starts with
Speaker 1: the ankles and then like drags her hands up her
Speaker 1: body up to her waist and that as she's going
Speaker 1: like it's just true sexual and sexualized for a five
Speaker 1: year old, Like it's not. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: I'm sure other mums have that proper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon, there's load to people that are probably
Speaker 1: gonna write in or help you out with that.
Speaker 3: I think that's something everyone goes through, right.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating because you think you're you think you're
Speaker 1: picking things at an age appropriate and then somehow they
Speaker 1: managed to.
Speaker 2: Make it all right. Well, listen, it's a big show
Speaker 2: today for your Thursday.
Speaker 5: I'll vote. We are doing an ask gun Cut next.
Speaker 5: We do it every Thursday.
Speaker 2: It is where you write in with your deep, darky
Speaker 2: burning questions and we do our best to help you.
Speaker 2: And we actually speak to one of our listeners today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a bit of secrecy coming up in
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 5: Secret in relationship? What do you do?
Speaker 2: And that infiltrates your love life. It's stressful, So we'll
Speaker 2: help that person out. Coming up here at the pickup
Speaker 2: Hey Thursday, which means we need to do this Why
Speaker 2: ask UNCUTA ask gun cut?
Speaker 5: We do it every week, don't we?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Everything on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Ask Guncut is where somebody calls up gives us your
Speaker 1: dramas and we do our best to answer that. It's
Speaker 1: like a free counselor therapy session. This week we have
Speaker 1: someone who's been lied to in their relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, drama set. We've all kind of been in that situation,
Speaker 2: haven't we. Girls, We've all been in a similar vibe.
Speaker 4: I've never experienced what this person's experience.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, my partner had a double life, so yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've all had checkered relationship parts. So we can
Speaker 2: help Molly, who's joining us today on the show. Hey, Molly,
Speaker 2: what's taken under him?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 6: I'm recently engaged and I've just found out that he's
Speaker 6: actually been married before me. It's a whole thing, and
Speaker 6: you know, he didn't hide it from me, It just
Speaker 6: kind of it just never came up a conversation. So
Speaker 6: I just wanted to know if you guys thought that
Speaker 6: it's enough of a red flag for me to leave him.
Speaker 3: How long have you been with him, Molly, Like before
Speaker 3: he got engaged? Are we talking like quick two months
Speaker 3: or I've been a couple of years.
Speaker 6: So we've been together about two years and he engaged
Speaker 6: like I got to engage sorry about a month ago.
Speaker 4: So how did you come up though?
Speaker 1: When you say you've just found out and he didn't
Speaker 1: lie to you, It just never came up before, Like,
Speaker 1: how did it come up now?
Speaker 6: So we went to a family event on the weekend
Speaker 6: and his brother just casually brought up that he saw
Speaker 6: this chick on the weekend to my partner and was like, oh,
Speaker 6: I haven't seen her in ages, And I was like,
Speaker 6: who is this chick?
Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't even know she existed. So not only
Speaker 3: you didn't know she was engaged, you didn't know she existed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just an old flame, like they were
Speaker 6: really young, and it just kind of fizzled out. So
Speaker 6: they both kind of came to his mutual agreement to
Speaker 6: end it and never talk about it again.
Speaker 4: How are you married for?
Speaker 6: I think they were only married for like a year maybe,
Speaker 6: but I don't know exact details, but it wasn't very long.
Speaker 3: Mormly, did you ask him why he kept it from you?
Speaker 3: Because I think he.
Speaker 6: Just didn't think it was important because it was so
Speaker 6: long ago. I mean, obviously it's important.
Speaker 1: When you asked him like, why didn't you tell me this?
Speaker 1: What was his answer? Did he just say he didn't
Speaker 1: think it was important information?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he just simply was like, it was just so
Speaker 6: long ago. I didn't think I needed to mention it, But.
Speaker 3: Has he been open with you now with your curiosity,
Speaker 3: because I'm assuming if you're anything like me, I would
Speaker 3: be like prying for information, what, when, how?
Speaker 7: Why?
Speaker 5: I try to.
Speaker 6: Bring it up, but it's kind of just been on
Speaker 6: my mind for the past month, trying to figure out
Speaker 6: how to bring it out, more questions to ask.
Speaker 4: I'm curious whether I mean it end it? Yeah, why
Speaker 4: it ended?
Speaker 1: Like, because you know, it's one thing to get married
Speaker 1: and then to say, oh, it fizzled out. Fizzling out
Speaker 1: after a year seems like a pretty quick fizzle. I
Speaker 1: would be really curious if if I was you, and
Speaker 1: I would want to know the why behind it, and
Speaker 1: maybe if he behaved badly or maybe whatever. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: we're all projecting now, but if something bad happened, maybe
Speaker 1: that's the reason why he didn't want to tell you.
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think that the person that he
Speaker 1: was in a previous relationship means that's how he's going
Speaker 1: to behave in your relationship. But I would also see
Speaker 1: it as a pretty big red flag if my partner
Speaker 1: just didn't want to tell me that they were married before.
Speaker 4: It seems like a crazy thing to me. Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a red flag at all. I
Speaker 3: don't think you need to like change the locks on
Speaker 3: the house and leave. But I do think it is
Speaker 3: unusual that he didn't tell you. But I think what
Speaker 3: you need to do now is sit down and have
Speaker 3: that conversation and say, look, I'm going to try and
Speaker 3: understand why you didn't tell me. I get that, but
Speaker 3: I think he needs to be forthcoming now with any
Speaker 3: questions that you may have. And if he's still not forthcoming,
Speaker 3: then there are bigger issues because it's one thing to
Speaker 3: have withheld the information, but now you know, and you're
Speaker 3: curious and you're asking questions. As a partner that's about
Speaker 3: to enter a marriage, you deserve to have those questions answered.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I agree. Yes, it's been a rough month. So yeah,
Speaker 6: thank you, thank you for that.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy to find that out, isn't it?
Speaker 4: The only thing? I think?
Speaker 1: And this applies to any sort of like omitting of details.
Speaker 1: There is that fine line between okay, well when does
Speaker 1: it actually become lying, because like you can say, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't lie, I just didn't tell you. At some
Speaker 1: point it crosses into well you're not telling me.
Speaker 4: Is actually you lying. My friend is no.
Speaker 1: My friend genuinely female was married, then got divorced, gone
Speaker 1: to a new relationship years deep, and they were getting
Speaker 1: married with him thing she never said she was married before.
Speaker 3: And I said to her, I was like, you need
Speaker 3: to tell him. She's like, well, I don't, and I
Speaker 3: was like, no, you do, and but she was like,
Speaker 3: but it's a part of my life. Because I was
Speaker 3: like how why. I was like, why are you not
Speaker 3: telling him? Because it's when it comes out eventually, he's
Speaker 3: going to be like, cool, why have you lied to
Speaker 3: me all this time? And she's like, well, it's not lying.
Speaker 3: It's a part of my life. I want to forget
Speaker 3: and pretend didn't happen. So I just want to start
Speaker 3: living from now. And I said, I get that you
Speaker 3: want that, but it's still a part of your life
Speaker 3: that your next husband needs to know.
Speaker 2: I could not be in a relationship with someone that
Speaker 2: lacks that much self awareness. I'm sorry, but that is
Speaker 2: a major red flag.
Speaker 1: I'd run, Oh, I wouldn't run, but I think that
Speaker 1: it is a red flag. Let's not kind of gloss.
Speaker 5: Over that flag, all right, it's a flag. Nonetheless, the
Speaker 5: color TBC.
Speaker 4: Look thirty one oh six ' five.
Speaker 3: I want to know if you have had a wardrobe mishap,
Speaker 3: because I certainly had one that I'm still giggling about.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I should be giggling. And I've
Speaker 3: got a photo to show you guys. Not you guys
Speaker 3: that are listening, but Mitch and Laurie will show you.
Speaker 5: All right, that's an ext I on the pick up guys.
Speaker 3: Okay, I had a bit of a wardrobe malfunction that
Speaker 3: I'm laughing about now, but I'm also mortified about when
Speaker 3: I think back to the moment. So I on the weekend,
Speaker 3: I went to this like really fancy luncheon at a
Speaker 3: very fancy place in broad daylight.
Speaker 5: It was very outside luncheon. You go to a lot
Speaker 5: of I don't mind lunch.
Speaker 4: She's an ula.
Speaker 3: So my house that I live in is like so
Speaker 3: dark and damp, and there's no natural light, and the
Speaker 3: lights that I do have in the bathroom are like
Speaker 3: really dark.
Speaker 5: It's not the house sad. It's a wet house.
Speaker 4: Well, I used to live in that house.
Speaker 3: Often I will get ready in the morning, like my
Speaker 3: makeup will or get dress or whatever, and I'll go
Speaker 3: outside and I'll be like, whoa, my makeup's terrible because
Speaker 3: you can't see light. No lighting. So I got ready
Speaker 3: for this event and I was wearing this like brown
Speaker 3: body suit. It was really figure hugging. It was a
Speaker 3: skim thing and it was hot. It was like sucked
Speaker 3: me in and I was like, oh, feeling myself like,
Speaker 3: because that's what bodysuits do, right, they suck in feeling, tight, feeling,
Speaker 3: And it was so tight and supportive. I didn't need
Speaker 3: a bra, which great.
Speaker 5: So I go to the standard with those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty standard because that's what they're sort of made for.
Speaker 4: I feel like it doesn't matter what the what the
Speaker 4: attire is. You rarely wear a bra.
Speaker 5: Ham you wear one right now. You can see her nipples, right,
Speaker 5: they're all natural too.
Speaker 4: You can see nipples.
Speaker 3: Through bras anyway. Anyway, guys, you're sidetracking, So.
Speaker 2: Did you his jaws on the floor. She's got married
Speaker 2: and to the wrong woman, quite clearly.
Speaker 3: He No, it's really impressed you're not wearing a bra.
Speaker 4: They look really nice.
Speaker 2: Can we get this up on the social video of
Speaker 2: what we're seeing right now?
Speaker 4: I tell you my story or my nipples just got
Speaker 4: hard at Wow.
Speaker 3: So because you guys like talking about my boobe.
Speaker 1: I went to this event, took all these great photos,
Speaker 1: and I was walking around with such confidence because I
Speaker 1: was feeling it.
Speaker 4: And then I.
Speaker 1: Posted a photo, sent a photo to my partner band
Speaker 1: and Ben writes back to me and he was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, did you did you wear that to the fancy luncheon?
Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, and he's but you can
Speaker 3: see your boobs and I was like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't wear a bra, thinking that he just meant that
Speaker 3: I wasn't wearing bra and he's like, no, babe, like
Speaker 3: you boob And I was like what And I went
Speaker 3: back to the photo. My whole the whole shirt is
Speaker 3: see through, completely see through, but I couldn't see it
Speaker 3: in the light. Look at this, Look at the confidence.
Speaker 4: Look at me the confidence I've got to drink up.
Speaker 1: In the air.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you mean that is full aero.
Speaker 3: I mean it's great, it is full. And now this
Speaker 3: is this was full of This wasn't an event. This
Speaker 3: is full of patrons. But they are also photographs, so
Speaker 3: actually paying patreons. I was just walking around with my
Speaker 3: boobs and I but the fact people must have looked
Speaker 3: at me, being like, wow, the confidence that girl has
Speaker 3: to have her boobs out.
Speaker 4: You know what would be worse? It would be me.
Speaker 1: Mine just looked like too empty stocks with sand in
Speaker 1: the bottom of them, flapping around.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't be to spot down in the middle of
Speaker 4: my waist.
Speaker 5: And then was it a flash only situation in the
Speaker 5: broad daylight?
Speaker 3: Could you see that is not a flash that this
Speaker 3: photo right now with my boot This was just a
Speaker 3: normal photo, no flash on it.
Speaker 5: And look how happy I say, your mouth is open.
Speaker 5: You almost look like hey titties.
Speaker 3: Three hours And the fact that no one told me
Speaker 3: means they all thought I made that conscious decision, so
Speaker 3: now I have to sit in and roll with it.
Speaker 3: That I was just like, yeah, I'm just feeling it.
Speaker 2: Ten you're I'm thirteen one or six five? If you
Speaker 2: had a britt moment, did this happen to you wardrobe wise?
Speaker 7: So this dates back to my teenage years. I had
Speaker 7: some friends around and my little sister and I we
Speaker 7: used to fight like cat and dog. We're best friends now.
Speaker 7: But she we had just been hanging it on her
Speaker 7: as we did, and she wandered off and went to
Speaker 7: the toilet and just casually came back out and she
Speaker 7: had a strip of I'm not exaggerating, probably ten sheets
Speaker 7: of toilet paper hanging out the back of her pants.
Speaker 4: It was like.
Speaker 7: In a movie scene. It was ridiculous. I was so mortified.
Speaker 7: We laugh about it all the time.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, on a shoe,
Speaker 1: but when it's still connected to the so that's a
Speaker 1: real problem.
Speaker 3: It's still soaking it up.
Speaker 2: Stop one last one, Lisa, what happened to you quickly
Speaker 2: wrap it up for a s wardrobe malfunction?
Speaker 8: Okay. In my younger years, I was dancing at the
Speaker 8: nightclub with my friends, strutting our stuff up on stage.
Speaker 8: Thought we were awesome. My shoes ding strap broke. I
Speaker 8: was too busy doing the moves, probably to Banana Rama
Speaker 8: and Madonna, and out came my boob dancing along with me.
Speaker 8: I had no idea. Somebody that was down on the
Speaker 8: ground kept pointing at me and I'm like, yay, yay,
Speaker 8: and then I realized. I was like, I just want
Speaker 8: to smile. I was so embarrassed. I wanted to cry
Speaker 8: and ide, but I just had to pull my top up,
Speaker 8: hold it in place, and keep dancing like nothing happens again.
Speaker 1: The confidence it's just a boob all right, look coming up.
Speaker 1: Bumble has made a very big apology Bumble the dating app.
Speaker 1: We're all familiar with it. I think you know, you're
Speaker 1: probably the most recent time. I think that was actually
Speaker 1: the face of it for a while. There, you were
Speaker 1: the face of it.
Speaker 4: Bumble for a while. It was a Bumble ambassador. Well anyway,
Speaker 4: there was the bus stops.
Speaker 1: Speaking of bus stops, they've just done a massive rebrand
Speaker 1: and they've had to make a public apology for how
Speaker 1: much they missed the mark with this one.
Speaker 5: All right, thank god you're not associated with them anymore. Britain.
Speaker 3: Oh years and years.
Speaker 5: All right, that's next on the pickup.
Speaker 1: Now we've just established we're going to talk about Bumble
Speaker 1: the dating app. But then we remembered Britney used to
Speaker 1: be the face of Bumble.
Speaker 3: The day Bumble in Britney, many many many years ago.
Speaker 3: I did a campaign for them because I was on
Speaker 3: Bumble and I was single for ten years. I was
Speaker 3: on Bumble and they were like, hey, can we use
Speaker 3: your profile as an advert? And I was like okay,
Speaker 3: So they put my actual real life Bumble profile was
Speaker 3: on bus stops around Australia everywhere. I still didn't hook.
Speaker 2: Up, but.
Speaker 4: Still didn't find the mania dreams on Bumble.
Speaker 1: Well no, look, I mean I think the reason why
Speaker 1: Bumble has been so it's been like the nice dating
Speaker 1: app for so long, and I think it's because part
Speaker 1: of their marketing and their campaigning has been all around
Speaker 1: it being a women's first dating app, so if you've
Speaker 1: never used it, Basically the idea is that on there
Speaker 1: you can be as a female. You have to make
Speaker 1: the first move, so men have to you can match,
Speaker 1: but they have to wait in order to get a
Speaker 1: message from females. So that's kind of changed recently, and
Speaker 1: Bumble's been making a lot of small changes to the
Speaker 1: way in which the app functions, and one of the
Speaker 1: most recent rollouts is that now there's an opt in button,
Speaker 1: So if you want to allow men to be able
Speaker 1: to make the first move, that has been changed as well,
Speaker 1: so you can kind of tick that opt out button.
Speaker 5: What if you're old school, like I want the man
Speaker 5: to message me, or if you.
Speaker 1: Just spend your time Paul you can't think of a
Speaker 1: first line, or you're like, oh, make him get away,
Speaker 1: But it gives women the choice to do that now.
Speaker 1: Bumble has been teasing a rebrand and a new marketing
Speaker 1: strategy for the last couple of weeks and this rolled
Speaker 1: out only the other day. But there has been so
Speaker 1: much backlash to this because I think they well and
Speaker 1: truly miss the mark. So there's been billboards all around
Speaker 1: the country, and the billboard reads this, you know full
Speaker 1: well a vow of celibacy is not the answer introducing
Speaker 1: the new Bumble.
Speaker 5: I don't even really get it.
Speaker 1: The reason for this is is that some women are
Speaker 1: so over dating. They're so over like the rigmarole of
Speaker 1: like going on dates, hooking up, doing the one light
Speaker 1: stand thing. That celibacy is having a real moment. I mean,
Speaker 1: we spoke about it on the show the other week.
Speaker 1: Craig Craig David you know who sang a song ploning
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, like he's now celebrate Julia Fox, who's
Speaker 1: Kanye West X.
Speaker 4: She's been celibate for two and a half years.
Speaker 5: Celibacy is having a moment.
Speaker 1: It's having a real moment. So this seems like a
Speaker 1: very strange ad for Bumble to come off the back
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, guys, who whoa whoa whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: You don't need to take drastic measures like celibacy instead,
Speaker 1: just use the Bumble app Now, the reason why people
Speaker 1: are angry about this is because they're saying that this
Speaker 1: goes against everyone's like very genuine right to be able
Speaker 1: to choose celibacy if they're not happy in the dating world.
Speaker 2: That was also not the only billboard. There was another
Speaker 2: one that said thou shalt not give up on dating
Speaker 2: and become a nun problematic.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit on the nose, isn't it.
Speaker 5: I think my.
Speaker 3: Problem here is right the second that I saw the billboard,
Speaker 3: I cringed and I was like, rip Bumble, Like, I
Speaker 3: know that people are going to come for you over
Speaker 3: this ad What I don't like, and I've said this
Speaker 3: about so many different topics that have happened in the
Speaker 3: public eye, and like so many brands or people that
Speaker 3: have gotten something wrong, I don't like the cancelation or
Speaker 3: the pylon or the attack immediately when someone makes a mistake.
Speaker 3: And I thought they did an amazing apology. He's a
Speaker 3: part of what they said. For years, Bumble has passionately
Speaker 3: stood up for women and marginalized communities and their rights
Speaker 3: to fully exercise personal choice. We didn't live up to
Speaker 3: these values with this campaign, and we apologize for the
Speaker 3: harm it caused. And I just want to reiterate we
Speaker 3: so easily forget the ten years of great work that
Speaker 3: people put in and we jump on the first time
Speaker 3: they make a mistake and we're like, you're done. But
Speaker 3: people are human, people make mistakes.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, But I do think the reason why
Speaker 1: people have had such an adverse reaction to this is
Speaker 1: because it goes against everything that Bumble has stood for
Speaker 1: up until now.
Speaker 4: People are mad on.
Speaker 1: Social media, but there was this one really and I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. She's a brand consultant. She's come
Speaker 1: off the back and said, I had so many thoughts
Speaker 1: on the new marketing from Bumble, but the biggest one
Speaker 1: is don't tell women what to do regarding their bodies,
Speaker 1: full stop. This is such a pr misgiven, especially considering
Speaker 1: the current political climate of everything that's going on.
Speaker 5: That's the bigger picture, I think, not the celibration.
Speaker 1: God only knows how they didn't nail this one like
Speaker 1: they've nailed it forever. Whoever did this campaign is going
Speaker 1: to lose their job. But what I do want to
Speaker 1: end with is. I just want to say we get it.
Speaker 1: They made a huge mistake.
Speaker 3: They know that now they've apologized, and I think we
Speaker 3: can jump.
Speaker 4: Off the hate train for Bumble.
Speaker 1: Spoken by Bumble's x form guys.
Speaker 3: I have had no attachment to Bumble for about eight years,
Speaker 3: so this has no connection. I just I just hate
Speaker 3: these pylons, especially when someone's owned their mistake. Bumble aren't
Speaker 3: trying to pretend they didn't do it. Be like, guys,
Speaker 3: we messed up, so like, give them a break. They're
Speaker 3: human too.
Speaker 5: All Right, we're done, Let's get out of here.
Speaker 4: Seer Guys by