1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Justin heads up before we get into today's episode, in 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 1: case you hear some noise in the background. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 2: Full disclosure. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: We are a business that works above a pub, which 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: has its challenges and opportunities. Sometimes unfortunately that means we 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: get a little bit of daytime noise, bit of music, 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: bit of rowdiness. So if you hear that in the background, 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: that is what it is. Thank you for sticking with 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: us already. 10 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: And this is the Daily Art. 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: This is the Daily ohs oh, now it makes sense. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily Os. It's Thursday, 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: the nineteenth of June. 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm Emma Gillespie, I'm Billy fit Simon's. 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: This week, three people were shot in a lunchtime attack 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: on a Western Sydney kebab shop. The incident, described by 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: New Southwales Premier Chris Mins as shockingly brazen, follows a 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: spate of recent underworld shootings. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 2: It's prompted New South Wales Police to establish a new 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: task for to investigate these incidents. 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Now police say their concerned gangland figures are using social 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: media to recruit contract killers. In today's deep dive, we 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: are going to bring you up to speed on this 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: week's attack and we'll take you through the latest from 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: investigators on underworld shootings and gang violence. 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: It feels like there have been so many gang related 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: shootings in the news, especially over the last few years. 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: These stories always capture a lot of interest and a 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: lot of media attention. But my question with all of 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: this is has there actually been an increase or are 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 3: we just talking about it more? 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: I think the important point here is that we're not 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: talking about general gun crime. We're talking about gang violence. 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: So overall rates of gun crime in Australia are pretty low. 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: They've been consistently low since nineteen ninety six. Now that's 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: when the government under Prime Minister John Howard famously introduced 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: sweeping gun control measures in response to the Port Arthur massacre. 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Now that was a horrific incident in Tasmania where thirty 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,559 Speaker 1: five people were shot dead. But since these sweeping reforms 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: nearly thirty years ago, gun deaths have decreased by around 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: seventy percent in Australia. For the past several years, annual 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: rates have hovered at around zero point eight total gun 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: debts per one hundred thousand people. And to give you 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: a sense of where that puts us globally, we are 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: considered to have one of the lowest rates of gun 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: debts in the world, but we certainly have seen an 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: escalation in gun violence related to organized crime in recent years. 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: Now that's so, this is like the underworld, yes, exactly. 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: So that's both in Sydney and Melbourne, which are the 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: hubs of kind of Australia's organized crime networks. 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: I always feel so innocent whenever we talk about this 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: kind of thing, because I'm like, I just have no 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: idea about the underworld and organized crime and kind of 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: what goes on there. I guess many of us don't. 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: It can feel well hopefully, yeah, I can feel a 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: bit far away or like we're talking about a movie 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: or a TV show, because that's really where most of us. 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: Get our kind of sense of underbelli crime. 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: Yep, exactly, famous AUSSI show based on a true story. 61 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: But there has definitely been an increase in organized crime 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: gun violence. So we're focusing on New South Wales today. 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: National data is only released every few years, so it's 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: kind of difficult to pinpoint an exact increase on a 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: national scale, but to give you a sense of where 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: things are at in New South Wales, there have been 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: nine separate gun incidents over the past six months related 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: to organized crime that are currently under investigation. So incidents 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: between December twenty twenty four and now June twenty twenty five. 70 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: Nine shootings in six months. That feels like a lot. 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: How do police respond to something like this? 72 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so police have been investigating all these separate incidents, 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: but there is a common thread they feel that is 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: worth investigating and that's culminated in this new task force. 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: So three weeks ago, New South Wales Police actually launched 76 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: a new task force to quote investigate and suppress violent 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: crime in the Sydney metropolitan area. It's called Task Force 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Falcon and it includes one hundred and fifty officers who 79 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: will oversee what police call a number of investigations into 80 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: public place shootings, arson attacks and kidnappings dating back to December. 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: So that includes specifically these kind of broad investigations into 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: members and associates of high profile networks, but specifically as 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: well the shooting murder of a thirty one year old 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: man in Sydney in December, another shooting murder of a 85 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: twenty three year old in May, six public shootings across 86 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: the city in recent months and attempted kidnapping and a 87 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: string of arson incidents where multiple barbershops across Sydney's western 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: suburbs were set on fire. 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so just to recap, police are saying that there 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: has been an increase at least this year in organized 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: crime and this gun violence that we're seeing. Last month 92 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: they introduced a task force specifically to tackle this. Yep, 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: and even since they announced that task force, there have 94 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: been more gun related crimes. 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Exactly, got it? 96 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: And so what can you tell us about this week's incident? 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Yes, So, according to a statement from New South Wales Police, 98 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: two men entered a kebab shop in Auburn on Monday. 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Now Auban is a suburb in Sydney's West. They allegedly 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: fired eight shots injuring three people and fled the scene 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: in a black Audi suv. We know their faces were 102 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: covered and we know the plates on that Audi were forged, 103 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: so they were fake number plates and their faces were concealed. 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: A twenty six year old man suffered wounds to his 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: shoulder and arm. A forty seven year old woman it's 106 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: understood she was working in the shop. She was shot 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: twice in the Torso and a twenty five year old 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: man was shot in the face. All three were treated 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: by paramedics at the scene before being taken to hospital 110 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: for further specialist treatment. Now, the latest update from New 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: South Wales Police is that all victims are expected to 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: make a full recovery, but one of the men, the 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: twenty five year old who was shot in the head, 114 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: he is in a critical condition. 115 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can answer this, but is 116 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: it suspected that the people responsible for this were targeting 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: all three or we're targeting one of them and the 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: others happened to be injured. 119 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: So it seems like the woman who was shot was 120 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: an innocent victim called in the crossfires. I mean, as 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: far as we know, they were all innocent victims. But 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: police have mentioned one of the male victims, at twenty 123 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: six year old, is of specific interest to police, that 124 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: he's known to police and he has been involved in 125 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: several other recent investigations which we're going to touch on 126 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: a little bit later in the pod. 127 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so we know the condition of the victims, Do 128 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: we know any updates on the actual investigation. 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Yes, so Task Force Falcon, the task force that we 130 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: mentioned is already investigating straight away. They were put on 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: the case, and there was an update on Tuesday where 132 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: police said they've linked the shooting to three burnt out cars, 133 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: including the black Audi that. 134 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: We mentioned was the quote unquote getaway car. 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: They were all found in nearby suburbs to Auburn after 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: the shooting on Monday, and so the task force is 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: examining potential links between these three fires and the shooting. 138 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: So it's kind of feeding into this bigger picture that 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: investigators are working on about a broader organized crime feud. 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: Essentially, just before we go any further, I just want 141 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: to pause to hear a quick message from our sponsor 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: m I wanted to ask, when we're talking about organized crime, 143 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: what does that actually mean. 144 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question, Billy. And when we talk 145 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: about organized crime, we're talking about something rather than being 146 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: opportunistic crime as it's called, which might be perpetrated without 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: much planning, a spur of the moment of fence, or 148 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: perpetrated by a lone actor organized crime network. Are these 149 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: syndicates or gangs really outlaw motorcycle gangs you might hear 150 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: them called bikey gangs. They're these networks that control or 151 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: operate within spaces like the illicit drug market, the black 152 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: market trade of illegal weapons. They can also work in 153 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: money laundering organizations or be part of cyber crime rings, 154 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: child exploitation, human trafficking rings, even terrorism. So these are 155 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: these very serious coordinated networks and they're increasingly found by 156 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Australian investigators to be part of international syndicates. So quite 157 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: often you might have a high profile network here in 158 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: Sydney or down in Melbourne, and they will have a 159 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: leader who is far far away in another country, or 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: many leaders all around the world. Now, there are a 161 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: few hallmarks of some of these recent incidents in Australia 162 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: which also indicate that they could be tied to organized crime. 163 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: So when we see something like a daylight shooting, burnt 164 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: out cars, attempted kidnappings, drive bys, execution style murders, they 165 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: might sound like plot lines from movies, but these are 166 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: kind of common tactics or common offending that are linked 167 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: to organized crime. 168 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: And so with the incident this week, do we know 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: kind of what area of organized crime the people involved 170 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 3: were in. 171 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: So police have been tight lipped understandably about these investigations, 172 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,479 Speaker 1: but they are suspected to be tied to a drug syndicate. 173 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: Detective Superintendent Jason Box provided an update on Tuesday. He's 174 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: actually the commander of that task Force Falcon. He said 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: that the twenty six year old man who was shot 176 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: on Monday may have actually been the target of a 177 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: separate attempted attack on Friday, So the Friday before the Monday, 178 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: he alleged that witnesses cited a white ute with several 179 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: occupants who had their faces covered and one was believed 180 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: to be holding a long firearm. The twenty six year 181 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: old man fled the scene unharmed. The ute was later 182 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: found burnt out like those other cars, but police said 183 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: they interviewed the man and he gave them limited information, 184 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: so that is also a kind of hallmark of organized crime. 185 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: But Detective Superintendent Box also said this man, one of 186 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: the victims of the shooting in Auburn, has been the 187 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: subject of twenty five recent police inquiries. He's been spoken 188 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: to on nine occasions of late and warned about multiple 189 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: threats to his life and linked to several other shooting incidents. 190 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: And there's something else police said in relation to gang 191 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: violence this week that I found particularly interesting, which was 192 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: about how these crime networks are recruiting their members, particularly 193 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: their gunmen, and they suggested that it could be from 194 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: social media. 195 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a really interesting aspect to this whole investigation. 196 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: Police do believe. 197 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: That social media is becoming this increasingly commonly used tool 198 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: to recruit people for these crime syndicates. So specifically, they've 199 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: warned that offenders are being recruited who might actually never 200 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: have been involved in organized crime before, They might have 201 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: no previous connection to these networks until this point, but 202 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: they are quote being recruited by encrypted devices, social media 203 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: and word of mouth to commit offenses like contract killings. 204 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Box said, I believe it is common and I believe 205 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: it is increasing. 206 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: So they're being paid to kill these people. 207 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Exactly, being paid to kill people or shoot people or 208 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: hurt people or carry out crimes, but that they're being 209 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: found or located through social media channels and is. 210 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: That what investigators believe happened in Sydney this week. 211 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: So Box was directly asked about this at a press 212 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: conference on Tuesday. He said that New South Wales Police 213 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: don't have evidence on that at this stage, but there 214 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: are multiple reports suggesting otherwise, including from the Guardian as well. 215 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: As the Daily Telegraph. So the Telegraph said senior police 216 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: are investigating whether the gunmen were hired on an online 217 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: platform similar to air Tasker. Now air Tasker, if you're 218 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: not familiar, you can use air Tasker for a range 219 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: of things from hiring someone to help you move house 220 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: or do your gardening or help with your admin. But 221 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: apparently there is this online platform similar to air Tasker, 222 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: which was used in a separate attempted murder of a 223 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: crime figure within the last month. So this is a 224 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: very kind of current channel that it seems is of 225 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: interest to investigators right now. 226 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: I will also say that the Daily Telegraph is quite 227 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: a respected source when it comes to this. They do 228 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: a lot of reporting on Underworld. 229 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a lot of exclusive and original reporting 230 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: with Underworld crime reporting. They've got a reporter, Mark Mourray, 231 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: who you might be familiar with, who is seemingly right 232 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: in the thick of it. 233 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: And you mentioned the task force was investigating dozens of 234 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: events over the past six months. Do we know if 235 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: any arrests have been made? 236 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: So there has been a lot of both media and 237 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: police interest surrounding this twenty six year old man I mentioned, 238 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: so he was targeted in that shoot. This week in 239 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Auburn he was shot. He was also targeted in the 240 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: lead up to that incident, and he is an alleged 241 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: high profile underworld figure. He's been described by police as 242 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: the epicenter of an ongoing feud between two high profile 243 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: gangs in Sydney. He was actually arrested in May over 244 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: an unauthorized gun possession charge and later released on bail. Now, 245 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: the decision to release him on bail actually went firmly 246 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: against New South Wales police and their wishes their advice 247 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: at the time. A police prosecutor actually told the court quote, 248 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: there will be further bloodshed on the streets. The streets 249 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: will not be safe and it's because of this man's 250 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: standing and holding in the organized crime network. 251 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: So interesting, where does the New South Wales government come 252 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: into this? Have they said anything about it? 253 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: Yes? 254 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: So the Premier, Chris Mins, he came out and publicly 255 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: condemned this daylight shooting in Auburn or on Monday. We've 256 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: also heard from the state's police and go how to 257 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: Terrorism minister. Her name is Yasmin Katley. She said, the 258 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: recent violence on our streets is horrific. We won't tolerate 259 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: these lawless thugs playing out their vendettas in our communities. 260 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: When innocent people get caught up in them and are 261 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: made to suffer, it's sickening and barbaric. She called public 262 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: safety the state's number one priority and outlined how government 263 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: will continue working to support police with this task force, 264 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: adding that quote, the message is crystal clear to those 265 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: contemplating taking part in this vicious criminality. You can look 266 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: forward to spending a large chunk of your life in 267 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: a small cell. 268 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: Very strong words there, exactly. Thank you so much for 269 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: taking us through that. It is always so interesting learning 270 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: about a world that I mean, speaking for myself, I 271 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: literally know nothing about. 272 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: It, so she says, true, but thank you for explaining 273 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: it my pleasure. And of course this social media element 274 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: is really interesting part, and we will continue to kind 275 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: of keep across this. 276 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure we're going to hear more. 277 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: About these apps encrypted services, and we'll keep you updated 278 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: when we know more. 279 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: Yes, and thank you so much for listening to this 280 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: episode of The Daily OS. We'll be back this afternoon 281 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: with your evening headlines, but until then, have a great day. 282 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: My name is Lily Maddon and i'm a proud Arunda, 283 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: Bungelung Kalkuton woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges 284 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 285 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 286 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: Strait island and nations. We pay our respects to the 287 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: first peoples of these countries, both past and present.