Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Sophie Tauber and coming up on today's show, Georgia Love
Speaker 1: calls emergency services over her lost phone, Megan Markle's controversial rebrand,
Speaker 1: and our New Friday Debrief. But first, I don't mean
Speaker 1: to brag, but in the space of a week, another
Speaker 1: one of our twenty twenty five predictions has already come true.
Speaker 1: I actually gassed when I saw this, and I sent
Speaker 1: it directly to you, Amy, because I want to give
Speaker 1: you props you came up with this one. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: Queensland based influencer Sophie Jane Miller has followed in the
Speaker 1: footsteps of Cartia Milan and Ashton Wood and launched, as
Speaker 1: we predicted, her own matcha powder called Matcha Lane. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to say I pulled that prediction out of
Speaker 1: my absolute ass. There have been no signs other than
Speaker 1: the fact that Sophie Jane Miller loves Matcha that she
Speaker 1: would actually start her own business. She has made Matcha
Speaker 1: her own personal brand. She makes it always on a
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. She's always visiting a local cafe in Queensland
Speaker 1: where they serve up her favorite match, ye o bagel
Speaker 1: in Queens. I must be really kicking themselves. Sophie's not
Speaker 1: going to be visiting there every day. Well. She and
Speaker 1: her influencer bestie Georgia Richards have even named a YouTube
Speaker 1: series Match of Therapy, so it is clear that she
Speaker 1: loves Matcher and the strategy behind her announcement was quite
Speaker 1: interesting because most influencers, if they're starting a new business,
Speaker 1: they would do an announcement post saying this is my startup,
Speaker 1: this is how I've done it, but she simply shared
Speaker 1: an instructional video showing how she makes her morning match it.
Speaker 1: She didn't even specify that the powder she was using
Speaker 1: was her own. She simply wrote in the caption, how
Speaker 1: I make the most delicious ice Matcher and tagged the
Speaker 1: new brand. Let's throw to the real.
Speaker 2: Your most perfect.
Speaker 1: Far the most important way is that you.
Speaker 2: Have a high quality. Is a ceremonial grade about three
Speaker 2: scoops depending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even realize it was her own brand.
Speaker 1: I only showed interest in the post because Amy, you
Speaker 1: had made that prediction and I was like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: teamed up with another company, and then when I clicked
Speaker 1: on it, I was like, what, I actually think this
Speaker 1: is really clever marketing because I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people would actually switch off if they saw some video
Speaker 1: of her announcing, oh, this is my matcher, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people must organically be asking her, hey, where
Speaker 1: do you actually get your matcher from? And by sharing
Speaker 1: this instructional video, it's a really clever way to be like, well,
Speaker 1: this is the one I use, and it just so
Speaker 1: happens to be my brand. Yeah, it's so true. It
Speaker 1: sort of reminds me of when Talia Scines used to
Speaker 1: sprook third Fixes drink bottle and I never knew that
Speaker 1: it was her boyfriend Mitch Third's brand. I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: that drink bottle is really cool. She must genuinely love it,
Speaker 1: She's always got it. And that's how it comes across
Speaker 1: with this match a post. You're like, this must be
Speaker 1: the matcher that she has been using all the time
Speaker 1: in her YouTube videos, But it just turns out no,
Speaker 1: it's one that she is spooking. Yeah. Well, all of
Speaker 1: Sophie's influencer best is were quick to congratulate her in
Speaker 1: the comment section, So Georgia Richards wrote yes, she has
Speaker 1: officially a while Rachel Catherine wrote Maucha Laine might just
Speaker 1: convert me into a much a drinker, whilst her manager,
Speaker 1: laying from Posey Creative wrote so proud of you. It's
Speaker 1: quite interesting because a few months ago we discussed how
Speaker 1: Cartie Milan and also ashton Wood's match A brand shut
Speaker 1: down and it's still unclear if this was because sales
Speaker 1: were down, because this has become a very oversaturated market. See.
Speaker 1: I thought it was obviously down to their friendship buster
Speaker 1: up because I only had just launched the brand. But
Speaker 1: if this brand was successful, would they then not go
Speaker 1: and on sell it onto someone else and say, oh,
Speaker 1: we've got this client base. It would be much money.
Speaker 1: Don't easy just shut it down? Yeah? And I had
Speaker 1: only just started, so they couldn't really go to another
Speaker 1: company and say, oh, here's the projections of how much
Speaker 1: this is going to earn blah blah blah. I've also
Speaker 1: noticed in recent times there's been a lot of debate
Speaker 1: around the ethics of white people profiting off selling a
Speaker 1: traditional Japanese drink like Matcher. So far, the reaction, though,
Speaker 1: has been pretty good. Her very loyal follower base seemed
Speaker 1: very excited that she's brought out her own brand. I
Speaker 1: think because it aligns with her because she's always talking
Speaker 1: about Matcher. Her Instagram account so far has sixteen hundred followers,
Speaker 1: and when you have a look at the website, it's
Speaker 1: quite interesting because you discovered that she is running this
Speaker 1: business alongside her dad, Cam, who seems to be quite
Speaker 1: a successful businessman now. On the new brand's website, it
Speaker 1: says the father and daughter duo share a love for
Speaker 1: Matcher and after about a year of trying to find
Speaker 1: the best tasting matcher here in Australia, they came up
Speaker 1: short and decided to go straight to the source and
Speaker 1: bring the good stuff here. When I read on their
Speaker 1: website that they have sourced this matcher from Japan, I
Speaker 1: initially thought, well, that's fantastic that they're actually supporting Japanese
Speaker 1: manufacturing of Matcher. But that I also thought is at
Speaker 1: the time that Sophie recently went to Japan, because just
Speaker 1: last month she was in Japan for a jet Star
Speaker 1: influencer trip. Yeah, was surely that would have been a
Speaker 1: bit too much of a quick turnaround. It didn't seem
Speaker 1: like they had much of an opportunity because on the
Speaker 1: website it says that they visited farms in Japan to
Speaker 1: source the best matcher. We must be heard dad doing
Speaker 1: it then, because we've only seen on Sophie's vlogs last
Speaker 1: year her going to Japan once. Well, that being said,
Speaker 1: this could have been a very quick turnaround because unfortunately
Speaker 1: there appears to be a spelling error on the packaging,
Speaker 1: so instead of saying how to make, it says hot
Speaker 1: to make. I felt bad for her because when you're
Speaker 1: you've got to startup business, you want everything to be perfect.
Speaker 1: So maybe they just wanted to get it out there
Speaker 1: with the start of the new year. You've got a laugh,
Speaker 1: don't yeah, situate just put a little sticker over the
Speaker 1: top or something. I was quite surprised to see how
Speaker 1: expensive this much actually is. So thirty five dollars for
Speaker 1: a thirty grand bag. Yeah, when you compare it to
Speaker 1: other brands like Trepeka, who sells match A tea for
Speaker 1: twenty nine dollars, you get two hundred grams. It is
Speaker 1: slightly different because that is Matcha tea. I know that
Speaker 1: Sophie is selling a ceremonial grade matcher, which I think
Speaker 1: is a little bit more expensive. But I had another
Speaker 1: look at a brand who sells ceremonial grade leaves and
Speaker 1: they sell a fifty grand bag for eighteen dollars, so
Speaker 1: hers is quite costly. I think you're paying for the
Speaker 1: fat that it's got her name and branding on it.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are buying it because she put
Speaker 1: up an Instagram story and her ticket machine for sales
Speaker 1: was just going off. Can I say, Amy, though, I
Speaker 1: think that your prediction was slightly wrong because weren't you
Speaker 1: predicting that she would bring out a matched tea with
Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson's brand Naked Harvest.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I predicted that she'd bring out her own line,
Speaker 1: and Kate, you suggested perhaps Naked Harvest because her friend
Speaker 1: Georgia Richards, of course had her brand with Naked Heart.
Speaker 1: What if she spoke to her manager and they both
Speaker 1: worked out that she could be making far more money
Speaker 1: by launching her own match a brand than doing it
Speaker 1: with Naked Harvest. Looking at maybe the figures that Georgia
Speaker 1: Richard's got. This isn't her first business, though, so she
Speaker 1: started out selling an e book and that was really successful,
Speaker 1: and then she's also had her own drink bottle company
Speaker 1: and done a few other things, so maybe this is
Speaker 1: going to be the one that really takes off for her.
Speaker 1: The timing of the release I think is really good.
Speaker 1: Being the new year, people are wanting to jump onto
Speaker 1: year knew me. I want to become like a match
Speaker 1: a girly. The only thing I find interesting is there's
Speaker 1: been no men off her cookbook, which she was heavily
Speaker 1: promoting last year, that she was taking photos for it
Speaker 1: and all that. I d say, there had been a
Speaker 1: bit of a whole in production. I think something with
Speaker 1: the printer. I'm also surprised that she didn't launch a
Speaker 1: YouTube video in conjunction with the launch of her new
Speaker 1: brand to go inside. Yet Well, we're yet to see
Speaker 1: a YouTube video from Sophie for this year. I think
Speaker 1: she's going to launch with the news of the Matcher brand. See.
Speaker 1: I just think it will be integrated into one of
Speaker 1: her weekly vlogs. I think that she's really trying to
Speaker 1: make it feel organic and not a hard sale.
Speaker 2: You'll often hear people say, well, you're helping women find
Speaker 2: their voices, and I fundamentally disagree with that, because women
Speaker 2: don't need to find a voice. They have a voice,
Speaker 2: they need to feel empowered to use it, and people
Speaker 2: need to be encouraged to listen.
Speaker 1: Megan Mirkal has marked twenty twenty five as the year
Speaker 1: of her comeback. After a five year social media hiatus,
Speaker 1: The Duchess of Sussex returned to Instagram on New Year's
Speaker 1: Day with a bang, unveiling her plans to get back
Speaker 1: to her lifestyle blogging routes. Yes, and this social media
Speaker 1: return has been years in the making, so she was
Speaker 1: set to make a comeback in twenty twenty two to
Speaker 1: coincide with the launch of her podcast Archetypes, and she
Speaker 1: went as far as securing the handle at Meghan and
Speaker 1: an interview with The Cut, she said that she was
Speaker 1: getting back on Instagram. Is that because she was just
Speaker 1: like just share, you know what I mean, Like just Meghan,
Speaker 1: We'll drop the Meghan Markele despite the fact that she
Speaker 1: is keeping the Duchess of Sussex in her title. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I suppose it's an awkward one because everyone knows her
Speaker 1: as Meghan Markle, but since getting married, she kind of
Speaker 1: doesn't have a last name. Can you imagine Meghan Train
Speaker 1: and she's like, fuck me. I'm also Meghan and I'm famous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to know who she bought the handle off
Speaker 1: as well, because she clearly had to acquire it somehow. Now,
Speaker 1: despite being ready to launch the account, she decided last
Speaker 1: minute that she wasn't going to and at SAP dormant
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. Now, that all changed
Speaker 1: on New Year's Day, So the account's profile picture of
Speaker 1: a pink flower suddenly changed to a black and white
Speaker 1: picture of Meghan. Yeah, wasn't there a lot of mystery
Speaker 1: surrounding that Instagram account because people saw the Meghan account
Speaker 1: pop up, but no one knew if it was actually
Speaker 1: Megan Markle because she did put up that strange display picture. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: she had dropped a lot of clues as I was
Speaker 1: saying before that she was launching this account. Then the
Speaker 1: account at Meghan popped up, but it did have this
Speaker 1: strange profile picture. I'm super confused because I went to
Speaker 1: follow it at the time when there was a lot
Speaker 1: of speculation or is this Megan? But I had to
Speaker 1: refollow come New Year's Days. I don't know what happened there.
Speaker 1: The account did have one hundred thousand followers when it
Speaker 1: wasn't confirmed to be hers and then as at the
Speaker 1: time of recording, it's got one point three million. So
Speaker 1: obviously the word got out there that this was the
Speaker 1: real Megan. So on New Year's Day she uploaded a
Speaker 1: video of her frolicking on the beach and she wrote
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five in the sand. Now word has it
Speaker 1: that Prince Harry actually filmed the video. He did a
Speaker 1: good job, but it kind of looked like one of
Speaker 1: those videos in a crime show that depicts the wife
Speaker 1: who's been murdered. Yes, it did remind me of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love her and for some reason I couldn't help
Speaker 1: but crtings really hard at that video. It just seemed
Speaker 1: a bit try well. Someone said it was giving Pinterest
Speaker 1: twenty twelve vibes, And to be fair, Meghan has been
Speaker 1: off social media for a long time, so she actually
Speaker 1: deactivated her personal Instagram account seven years ago when she
Speaker 1: got engaged to Prince Harry. They did have their Sussex
Speaker 1: Royal account, but again that's laid dormant for the last
Speaker 1: five years. When they left. The Royal family actually surprised
Speaker 1: that Meghan hasn't got more followers, because if you compare
Speaker 1: her number of followers to Kate and Wills. They've got
Speaker 1: sixteen point eight million, but they've had like fifteen years
Speaker 1: to build it that She's had it for a couple
Speaker 1: of days. They've had their account for fifteen. Oh, actually
Speaker 1: they probably have considering how long they've been married. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a million's pretty good for only a week
Speaker 1: into the new year. I think that is going to
Speaker 1: grow and grow from there. One thing that stood out
Speaker 1: to me was this comeback video wasn't actually specifically shot
Speaker 1: for Instagram. It was shot in a landscape mode, so
Speaker 1: it didn't really suit reels. Yeah, that's one thing I
Speaker 1: can't stand when people do post those landscape videos. You're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: it's so much better as a reel. It didn't stop
Speaker 1: the traction because it did get eight million views. Now,
Speaker 1: the real reason for Megan's social media return became apparent
Speaker 1: the following day, and this is when she dropped the
Speaker 1: trailer for her new Netflix lifestyle show called With Love
Speaker 1: Meghan and this is going to start airing on the
Speaker 1: sixteenth of January, a day before Molly Bay's documentary set
Speaker 1: to air on Prime Yes, I am so excited to
Speaker 1: watch both of these. So the teaser was set to
Speaker 1: the song Do You Believe In Magic? And it showed
Speaker 1: Megan in the kitchen, decorating cakes, making for carture, arranging flowers,
Speaker 1: and even collecting honey in a beekeeper suit. It was
Speaker 1: really giving David Beckham vibes from his doco. Yeah, here's
Speaker 1: a little taste of the promo, Let's go.
Speaker 2: I have always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it,
Speaker 2: surprising people with moments that let them know I was
Speaker 2: really thinking of them.
Speaker 1: What this is probably one of the most glamorous summons
Speaker 1: of my life.
Speaker 2: It's I'm going to share some little tips and tricks.
Speaker 2: I see what color I gravitate to, and everything goes
Speaker 2: from there. And how you can incorporate these practices every day.
Speaker 1: That's what you want.
Speaker 2: You want that sheep and texture, Tom, This is about
Speaker 2: connecting with friends. I love that we're doing this together
Speaker 2: for the first time, making new friends.
Speaker 1: That is so good. Now I seem to be in
Speaker 1: the minority because I got really excited when I saw
Speaker 1: the trailer. Megan was really reminding me a lot of
Speaker 1: Nigella Laws and this type of show is something that
Speaker 1: I would really enjoy watching. I was one of the
Speaker 1: people who was excited too, but that's because I am
Speaker 1: a Megan fan. The only thing that disappointed me a
Speaker 1: little bit was the appearance of all of these celebrities,
Speaker 1: because I knew instantly that that was going to cop
Speaker 1: criticism from people. People are going to act like this
Speaker 1: is quite an elitist program. It just reminded me of
Speaker 1: her podcast, because the podcast archetype. She invited all of
Speaker 1: her A list superstar friends on to talk about issues
Speaker 1: that are apparently related to the common person, and people didn't
Speaker 1: find it relatable. People found it a bit pukeheathy. Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: I am a Megan fan. But the only thing is
Speaker 1: everything she does and it just seems so American, Like
Speaker 1: she is American. Again, she's American, but I think that
Speaker 1: that's what the British don't like about her. Their critics
Speaker 1: were quick to slam Meghan's show, so it was labeled dull.
Speaker 1: She was labeled entitled, tone deaf and tasteless. In the
Speaker 1: midst of a cost of living crisis that seems to
Speaker 1: be something that everyone's sort of the go to, isn't
Speaker 1: It's like, how discussing it's the cost of living crisis
Speaker 1: and that she's there, she is making cakes for a
Speaker 1: celebrity friend. I think that's a bit of a shit
Speaker 1: Megan reaction. Yeah, Well, Meghan McCain, who was the daughter
Speaker 1: of former Republican Senator John McCain. She shared an absolutely
Speaker 1: scathing response to the trailer on x SO. She wrote,
Speaker 1: there have been two terror attacks in two days, major
Speaker 1: wars raging, and Americans can't pay for groceries. We are
Speaker 1: a country in rage, uncertainty, and intensity right now. This
Speaker 1: is why the world doesn't like you. Nothing else, just
Speaker 1: completely and utterly tone death to the moment. But don't
Speaker 1: we want to escape all of that by watching a
Speaker 1: charming show of someone cooking up a storm in the
Speaker 1: kitchen and using flowers to sprinkle over their cereal. Like
Speaker 1: this is escapism at its best. But I just think
Speaker 1: it's sad that this woman, who has been so heavily
Speaker 1: criticized and I think unfairly criticized by the media and
Speaker 1: by the public, all she does is release a feel
Speaker 1: good cooking show. They've probably done it strategically because they've thought, well,
Speaker 1: we can't really have Megan talking about women's rights. We
Speaker 1: can't have this because this is going to piss people off.
Speaker 1: They've literally just released a feel good show and everyone's like,
Speaker 1: fuck you are. Oh it comes off the back of
Speaker 1: Harry releasing a documentary show about Polo, which they were
Speaker 1: trying to go for the vibe of Survive to Drive
Speaker 1: or F one or whatever those racing shows are called,
Speaker 1: and it really missed the mark. People said that this
Speaker 1: show was boring. There was a lot of orchestrated drama.
Speaker 1: He didn't appear in it, which they think he made.
Speaker 1: He popped that once, but he wasn't a character in it,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of speculation and questions around, well,
Speaker 1: can they sell something that they're not in. In this case,
Speaker 1: she is in this and I think that it is
Speaker 1: a case of tall poppy syndrome. People want to drag
Speaker 1: her down. There were never going to be rave reviews
Speaker 1: about this show, and I think that Meghan's PR team
Speaker 1: would know this, and they're hoping that everyone comes in
Speaker 1: with such low expectations that when the show comes out,
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, it actually wasn't too bad. Well, this
Speaker 1: is the thing, And I think a lot of these
Speaker 1: commentators are actually showing how out of date they are,
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of conversation around the fact
Speaker 1: that they can't believe that Meghan has gone through so
Speaker 1: much and then wants to relaunch herself as an influencer.
Speaker 1: I mean, ever since Meghan found fame on suits, she
Speaker 1: has been interested in being an influencer in the lifestyle space.
Speaker 1: She had a lifestyle vlog called The Tig and she
Speaker 1: also posted heaps of aspirational photos on Instagram. This is
Speaker 1: very Meghan. I think this shows the snobbery around the
Speaker 1: role of an influence and also people not understanding the
Speaker 1: role of an influencer. You don't have to be universally
Speaker 1: liked to be an influence. Also very clever, but because
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four we saw this rise of tid
Speaker 1: wives and influencers like Nara Smith making cooking look very
Speaker 1: glamorous and an activity that a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of women wanted to do. We were talking about in
Speaker 1: our subs episode, how on TikTok dinner parties are all
Speaker 1: the craze. People want to have a beautiful home to
Speaker 1: welcome people into. They want to be making their own food,
Speaker 1: they want to be growing their own produce. It's really
Speaker 1: been glamorized. When you talk about influencers, I more think
Speaker 1: of Megan as being like a Martha Stewart, like a
Speaker 1: new Martha Stewart, and she was touted as one of
Speaker 1: the first influencers, especially in American culture. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like she doesn't want to be some tacky influencer who's sprooking,
Speaker 1: teeth whitening, but she wants to be a big symbol
Speaker 1: for people out there. And that's why I think people
Speaker 1: just look at the term influencer and they underrate it.
Speaker 1: They I don't understand how powerful the influencer industry is.
Speaker 1: And it's just this lack of understanding about this modern
Speaker 1: marketing tactic, particularly when you think about hate following, because
Speaker 1: people are saying, no one is going to watch this show,
Speaker 1: it's terrible, And the numbers really speak for themselves because
Speaker 1: the trailer has been viewed over six million times on
Speaker 1: Megan's Instagram and a million on YouTube. And to be
Speaker 1: successful as an influencer, you only need a portion of
Speaker 1: your audience to actually like you, and considering she's already
Speaker 1: got one point two million followers on Instagram, they're going
Speaker 1: to be enough people to buy products from her. Going
Speaker 1: back to this point about how Meghan Markel apparently wants
Speaker 1: to be an influencer. I reject that she wants to
Speaker 1: be a celebrity. She wants to be a cult like
Speaker 1: celebrity like Oprah. She doesn't want to sit spooking cheap
Speaker 1: tacky products like teeth whitening. She wants to have celebrity status.
Speaker 1: And I also think the reason she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be an influencer is because most influencers actually have to
Speaker 1: open up about their private life. Yes, they add a
Speaker 1: lot of their dirty laundry about the royal family, but
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to go into her marriage struggles or
Speaker 1: her friendship breakdoesn't mean at the moment there is a
Speaker 1: lot of speculation and rumors that she and Harry are
Speaker 1: supposedly divorced and not together, which is why there are
Speaker 1: a lot of eyeballs on this teaser because people like,
Speaker 1: is Prince Harry going to be in it? He wasn't
Speaker 1: in there for a few seconds, but he wasn't a
Speaker 1: main role in this. But so if what you are
Speaker 1: overlooking the fact is she already is a celebrity, but
Speaker 1: in terms of becoming an influencer, she has a brand
Speaker 1: now that she wants to influence people to buy, and
Speaker 1: isn't that a business person. What just because she's literally
Speaker 1: smart enough to utilize social media, suddenly she's an influencer.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can say that everyone who is
Speaker 1: on Instagram and chooses to have an Instagram account is
Speaker 1: an influence. But you're not looking at it from a
Speaker 1: marketing perspective. But how is she an influencer? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's I mean, celebrities influence people if you're going to
Speaker 1: use the word influence, But I don't think that she
Speaker 1: is an influencer in the right of people spooking crappy brand.
Speaker 1: I do find the timing of Megan's new venture very
Speaker 1: interesting because she did a relatively quiet year. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, she did soft launch her new brand, American
Speaker 1: Riviera Orchard, but it was pretty low key. To refresh
Speaker 1: your memory, she sent her famous friends some jam that
Speaker 1: she made, and we're still in the dark about what
Speaker 1: else her brand will actually sell. It is now obvious
Speaker 1: that she's been waiting for the Netflix show to drop
Speaker 1: to start selling products in tandem. But it's strange to
Speaker 1: me that she launched the brand ten months before the
Speaker 1: Netflix show. I wonder why they didn't hold off doing
Speaker 1: it all at once. There are rumors that she is
Speaker 1: struggling to actually secure a trademark for the brand, so
Speaker 1: that might have something to do with it. Do you
Speaker 1: think you could have just been a red herring and
Speaker 1: she's not actually releasing this brand. It was sort of like,
Speaker 1: almost to Garner attentions like why is she selling jam?
Speaker 1: And now it all makes sense. She's selling stuff because
Speaker 1: the brand literally relates so perfectly to the lifestyle show.
Speaker 1: One thing that's very clear is that Harry and Megan's
Speaker 1: pr strategy has drastically changed. So since leaving the Royal family,
Speaker 1: they were very much on the attack and they did
Speaker 1: try to position themselves as the victims, even though I
Speaker 1: do think they were the victims in that case, but
Speaker 1: it really ended up having a negative impact on their
Speaker 1: own profiles. And over the last year or so, you'll
Speaker 1: notice that Harry and Meghan are working on very separate projects,
Speaker 1: and as you touched upon Sovie, that has led to
Speaker 1: rumors of a separation. But they're doing it very strategically
Speaker 1: because people don't like them as a couple, so they're
Speaker 1: having to rebrand as individuals and I do think this
Speaker 1: is going to be a very positive move for Megan.
Speaker 1: I mean It's clearly a strategic approach from the PR
Speaker 1: team because they've wanted to distance Meghan from all of
Speaker 1: the royal drama. They wanted to seem as if this
Speaker 1: is an issue that Harry has with his family, and
Speaker 1: she has stayed relatively quiet for the last two years,
Speaker 1: and that's why it's so interesting to see this is
Speaker 1: what they have launched with this lifestyle program. I think
Speaker 1: that Meghan is no longer wanting to wade into drama.
Speaker 1: She just wants to be seen in a different, more
Speaker 1: positive light. I don't think that this is going to
Speaker 1: be this success perhaps Kate that you think it will be.
Speaker 1: I think that, unfortunately, I don't have faith in humanity,
Speaker 1: and I think that this is going to become a
Speaker 1: show that is very memified and paid out online. I
Speaker 1: think that because she has the inclusion of her celebrity friends,
Speaker 1: who seem to be quite out of touch with the world,
Speaker 1: that it isn't going to bode well for her character,
Speaker 1: particularly after the past year that Kate Middleton has had.
Speaker 1: These women are constantly pitted against each other, but that's
Speaker 1: why everyone loves Kate, so everyone wants to hate on
Speaker 1: the fact that Megan has left the family. She's come
Speaker 1: up with this show that's about her and her cooking.
Speaker 1: But the thing is she doesn't actually have to be
Speaker 1: universally liked. They've decided that she is going to relaunch
Speaker 1: herself as a lifestyle influencer, and they are promoting that
Speaker 1: show to a particular demographic who will like it and
Speaker 1: then in turn by her product. Well, they've realized that
Speaker 1: there's no way to undo the people who dislike hers opinions. Well,
Speaker 1: you can't change that. I do know what the crazy
Speaker 1: thing is. Can you imagine if, say, thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: there was a Netflix show with Princess Diana talking about
Speaker 1: her top tips for dinner parties and cooking. I would
Speaker 1: have loved to have seen that, But do you know what,
Speaker 1: it probably would have copped the same criticism as Meghan
Speaker 1: is copping now because everyone is just so vile to women,
Speaker 1: especially in the media. But why do we have this
Speaker 1: thing where we think that people who are princesses and princes,
Speaker 1: why do they have to be the common man? Like,
Speaker 1: can't we just escape into their lives and seeing the luxury.
Speaker 1: It's a celebrity before too. As you said, look at
Speaker 1: Ballerina farm and Nara Smith. People watch that for a
Speaker 1: form of escapism. No one's actually making their own chewing
Speaker 1: gum on their own diet coke. It's a form of entertainment.
Speaker 1: That being said, I think that the first couple of
Speaker 1: episodes will have a lot of downloads and views, and
Speaker 1: I think it will teeter off when the hate follow us.
Speaker 1: That thing was a bit like a podcast, I suppose. Well,
Speaker 1: I am very interested to watch it. I'm excited, so
Speaker 1: I've got that locked in. And also, Molly Maystoco one
Speaker 1: figure down if you left your phone in an uber
Speaker 1: in Manhattan and didn't realize who you got inside, and
Speaker 1: then couldn't contact the uber driver because you booked it
Speaker 1: on your phone and your phone was in the uber.
Speaker 1: Georgia Love has been criticized for wasting emergency services time
Speaker 1: after calling nine to one one to help her find
Speaker 1: her missing phone. The former bachelorette lost her iPhone after
Speaker 1: accidentally leaving it in an uber in Manhattan during her
Speaker 1: holiday to New York, Kay can you tell us more? Well?
Speaker 1: After going mia on social media for three days, Georgia
Speaker 1: returned to share her story about her lost phone, recounting
Speaker 1: the tail on Instagram and TikTok. So it turns out
Speaker 1: that she left her phone in an uber and didn't
Speaker 1: realize until she got inside her best friend's apartment, and
Speaker 1: she ended up tracking the location of the missing phone
Speaker 1: and went to the police station to file a missing
Speaker 1: items report. Now, the police told her that she'd have
Speaker 1: to wait a week for them to assist her, but
Speaker 1: she would be home in Melbourne by that time, so
Speaker 1: she took matters into her own hands and took her
Speaker 1: train to the location where her phone was showing up. Now,
Speaker 1: after realizing that she couldn't just knock on random people's doors,
Speaker 1: she phoned nine to one one and waited an hour
Speaker 1: and a half for the police to turn up. Now,
Speaker 1: during that time, she also popped into a local fire
Speaker 1: station to make lost phone posters, which she distribed did
Speaker 1: in the area. Now did she call the police because
Speaker 1: she assumed that someone had stolen her phone and this
Speaker 1: was now a crime. Well, she actually glazed over that,
Speaker 1: and the police roped up and they're like, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to find your phone. They did knock
Speaker 1: on a few doors and this fucking stupid Australia, Like,
Speaker 1: what's going on the third door? They knocked on. A
Speaker 1: guy came out and goes, oh, I actually have your phone.
Speaker 1: Someone through it in the garbage bin. It was all
Speaker 1: a bit of a confusing story. But why do I
Speaker 1: feel like this is something that I would do If
Speaker 1: my phone went missing, I would be putting out alerts
Speaker 1: like police, please help me. This is my prize possession.
Speaker 1: My phone is missing all of my holiday photos and
Speaker 1: going on the milk cartons in America missing pot. Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of people were shocked on TikTok that she
Speaker 1: would actually call nine one one. They said it was
Speaker 1: a terrible use of emergency services. I'm surprised that the
Speaker 1: emergency services wouldn't just tell her to fuck off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not dealing with this. That's why I'm wondering what
Speaker 1: she actually told them on the phone. Well, Georgia's sister
Speaker 1: also wasn't thrilled by her story. So one follower commented
Speaker 1: on George's post, this is insane. Will you te to
Speaker 1: get murdered? And George's sister responded, I'm glad her sister
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one thinking this. I told them not
Speaker 1: to go because it was a bad idea, But sister
Speaker 1: intuition told me they'd ignored that, so I started googling
Speaker 1: the area the phone was last pinging in to find
Speaker 1: the crime rate. When she was telling this story, she
Speaker 1: was talking about how she had to go all the
Speaker 1: way to Flashing Queens and I just got the Nanny
Speaker 1: song in my head. Yeah, a lot of people were
Speaker 1: actually commenting that as well. Maybe she was concerned that
Speaker 1: someone might sell some of the messages or images to
Speaker 1: the media because of her apparents split with her. How true?
Speaker 1: But I mean would anyone really know who she is? Well,
Speaker 1: it would take one Australian who's over there who watched
Speaker 1: The Bachelorette. Well, you'd have to get into the phone, though,
Speaker 1: you'd have to know her past her. That'd be he
Speaker 1: could guess it. There'd be some kind of app that
Speaker 1: would allow you to get in. I think, yeah, that
Speaker 1: is an interesting point, because I was like, why the
Speaker 1: hell was she so desperate to get her phone back?
Speaker 1: I mean, if she's already got fined your phone set up,
Speaker 1: surely she has that option to wipe the phone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think how much DIRR is actually on your phone?
Speaker 1: I mean you've got all of your credit cards as
Speaker 1: well linked to it. Imagining your note someone going through
Speaker 1: your notes section on your phone. This incident reminds me
Speaker 1: of something that happened recently to Olivia Rodgers. So she
Speaker 1: used an Uber to send some clothes back to her apartment.
Speaker 1: I don't even know I could do that, but apparently
Speaker 1: it's a service that a lot of people. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw Abby Chatfield talking about it. Apparently her boyfriend ubered
Speaker 1: her over some cough medicine or something. Must be like
Speaker 1: a celebrity thing. Yeah. Well, and basically the Uber driver
Speaker 1: allegedly then stole all of the islands and she never
Speaker 1: got any of them back, and she lodged this huge
Speaker 1: complaint against Uber, and she created like a series of
Speaker 1: tiktoks about it, and I was thinking, well, she's never
Speaker 1: getting a sponsorship deal with Uber again. So we're so
Speaker 1: trusting as a society, now, aren't we. Well let's get
Speaker 1: into our new segment called the Friday Debrief, and each
Speaker 1: week we will either be bringing you a recommendation, a
Speaker 1: fun story, or just a bit of a ranch. Now,
Speaker 1: so if I want you to kick us off, I've
Speaker 1: got a personal story or experience to kick things off with.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm very intrigued. Well, when I announced that I
Speaker 1: was pregnant, which was before Christmas a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: There are quite a few listeners who messaged me saying
Speaker 1: that they're also pregnant around the same time, so I
Speaker 1: thought maybe this was a helpful story to share. But
Speaker 1: I have found myself over this festive period being consumed
Speaker 1: by what I can wear. Now. I am four months
Speaker 1: pregnant today, which is quite crazy to think of. But
Speaker 1: I'm at that stage where I'm not necessarily I don't
Speaker 1: have a big bump, like, I'm more looking on the
Speaker 1: bloated side of things. And I'm finding it really difficult
Speaker 1: because I've never really thought so much about what I'm
Speaker 1: going to wear, Like I am interested in clothes, but
Speaker 1: I'm having to try new things. I'm very much the
Speaker 1: sort of person that just likes to wear trousers and
Speaker 1: jeans and a single or shorts or whatever. But I
Speaker 1: am finding that I have to now wear dresses, which
Speaker 1: is very unusual for me. I feel like I'm having
Speaker 1: to dip into this new feminine style and I feel
Speaker 1: uncomfortable about it. I feel like you are a sort
Speaker 1: of person that would wear dresses, but I don't wear
Speaker 1: them to like if I go out to dinner for
Speaker 1: a casual dinner. Like, I'm just finding that I'm having
Speaker 1: to revisit what my style is, what I feel comfortable in,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that there's a lot of other
Speaker 1: people who are going through the early stages of pregnancy
Speaker 1: at the moment that could relate to this, because you
Speaker 1: just don't feel like yourself. Well, do you know what.
Speaker 1: The other day, I was shopping and I have had
Speaker 1: the first stranger congratulate me on my pregnancy. I'm just
Speaker 1: over six months and I always a six months. Now
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five weeks. That is wild. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: mean obviously I look pregnant, but I was at the
Speaker 1: shops and this lady was like, by the way, congratulations,
Speaker 1: and I thought that is brave, Like as in, I know,
Speaker 1: I am twenty five weeks pregnant. But I find that
Speaker 1: I will never congratulate somebody unless they bring it up.
Speaker 1: We have actually gone shopping recently, Amy, because we're like,
Speaker 1: I just need some new clothes, I need some inspiration.
Speaker 1: And it's a hard one because you don't want to
Speaker 1: spend too much money. Because my sister in law is gosh,
Speaker 1: I think she must be almost eight months pregnant them
Speaker 1: and it's gone so quickly, and she finds that she'll
Speaker 1: buy something, but then within the next two weeks she
Speaker 1: doesn't fit in it in it anymore. So it's that
Speaker 1: whole thing of like, I don't want to dip into
Speaker 1: fast fashion, but I don't want to buy things that
Speaker 1: are ultra expensive that I'm potentially not going to wear again.
Speaker 1: And on your Facebook marketplace is a good spot for
Speaker 1: I was going to say, there's some really fashionable maternity
Speaker 1: brands that I've seen pop up on Instagram, like Bay
Speaker 1: the label, there's Lego Heritage. I'm probably pronouncing that wrong,
Speaker 1: but there's a few brands and I'm thinking of investing
Speaker 1: in them because you can buy them now and they're
Speaker 1: going to stretch well. Target is also really good. I've
Speaker 1: been watching a lot of TikTok videos and a lot
Speaker 1: of really stylish women are getting their jeans. They're getting
Speaker 1: like oversized tops, and they're quite reasonable prices as well.
Speaker 1: I really don't want to wish summer away, but I
Speaker 1: am very grateful that I'm going to be heavily pregnant
Speaker 1: come winter, because that is when I'm going to be
Speaker 1: just getting around it large baggy hoodies and tracksuits, and
Speaker 1: it's just this weird time of year where you're having
Speaker 1: to I suppose get your body out. You've timed it well.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've timed it very well. Who's someone
Speaker 1: it's so weird because I'm in exact timing of Kate,
Speaker 1: so I can. It's kind of good and bad that
Speaker 1: I can compare what she was at particular points. I
Speaker 1: want to say, thank god I don't have two weddings
Speaker 1: to be in because that would be an absolute new matter.
Speaker 1: So I have a recommendation for a baby brand. It's
Speaker 1: called Jay and Bay, and the owners of the company
Speaker 1: are listeners of the podcast, and they were so kind
Speaker 1: and sent me some of their smocks. Well, I think
Speaker 1: they heard that you were struggling with feeding time because
Speaker 1: Jack was getting very dirty. I know, I had peas
Speaker 1: all over here because it's so cute. Now every day
Speaker 1: you'll send us through a photo of Jack trying and
Speaker 1: you solid and these smocks are so cute. It's funny
Speaker 1: because some of them, like the colors, they almost go
Speaker 1: with some of the foods he's trying. He looks almost
Speaker 1: like an artist, like Yeah, not only are they really cute,
Speaker 1: but they're very functional. So they've got this special flat
Speaker 1: that you can tuck into the outfit so all the
Speaker 1: food doesn't slop down on to their clothing. It's so good.
Speaker 1: I've also got a recommendation, but this one is for
Speaker 1: a TV show. So it's a new Netflix dock o
Speaker 1: called Don't Die The Man who Wants to Live Forever,
Speaker 1: And it's all about this very wealthy entrepreneur called Brian Johnson.
Speaker 1: And if you're a listener dari of a CEO, you
Speaker 1: will have heard of Brian. You are an avid listener.
Speaker 1: But this guy, Brian, he's been all over the media.
Speaker 1: People like to tout him as a bit of a
Speaker 1: freak because he has basically invested millions and millions of
Speaker 1: dollars in trying to keep young. He's trying to reverse
Speaker 1: his biological clock. I mean, he's not interested in looking younger,
Speaker 1: is he. It's more about staying alive for as long
Speaker 1: A wow. Yeah, I mean I think he doesn't mind
Speaker 1: if he looks a little bit younger because he's quite funny.
Speaker 1: So when you watch this, Sopha, you'll understand his son
Speaker 1: is in the documentary. And a lot of people think
Speaker 1: that he's trying to wind back the clock to look
Speaker 1: like his son. They look very, very similar. So he's
Speaker 1: basically launched this movement to inspire other people to eat
Speaker 1: healthier and look after their health and be more preventative,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to stop Alzheimer's, for example, before it happens.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy some of the lengths he'll go to,
Speaker 1: Like he consumes about one hundred and fifty tablets per day.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's just not reasonable for anyone else
Speaker 1: who isn't a millionaire or a billionaire. And there's then
Speaker 1: the whole debate, are they actually living their life to
Speaker 1: the fullest, enjoying themselves? Well, they're just consumed with this
Speaker 1: obsession of being alive for as long as possible, Like
Speaker 1: what sort of life is that? Will? They explore this
Speaker 1: theme throughout the documentary because he made it big through
Speaker 1: this tech company, and he was living a very unhealthy
Speaker 1: lifestyle to the point where he actually didn't want to
Speaker 1: live life anymore. And apparently this has given him this
Speaker 1: new lease on life. But I would highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: It was one where I didn't even look at my
Speaker 1: phone because there was so much going on, Like there
Speaker 1: was the freak factor, but there was also a lot
Speaker 1: of entertaining parts because I love those kind of health docos.
Speaker 1: I found that there has been nothing to watch on TV,
Speaker 1: so I really appreciate that recommendation. And it's been the
Speaker 1: time of the year we've had the most time to
Speaker 1: just sit and veg, but I found like I can't
Speaker 1: find anything. It's a perfect doco as well, because everyone's
Speaker 1: getting into their health routines. I mean, even though I'm
Speaker 1: taking it a bit too far. You're obviously not going
Speaker 1: to start taking one hundred and fifty supplements, but made
Speaker 1: me think, well, I should be more careful what I
Speaker 1: eat it is actually affecting your body. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's it for today. If you haven't already, we would
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Speaker 1: I would also love to know now that we have
Speaker 1: moved this show back to Fridays, where are you listening from?
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Speaker 1: that episode, it's a bit of a trend at the
Speaker 1: moment I'm seeing on TikTok. Let us know what your
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Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of
Speaker 1: the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present.