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Speaker 1: Welcome to your diary episode. Here's the thing. I'm a

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Speaker 1: bit of a nomad, so these episodes come to from

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Speaker 1: wherever I'm living or traveling to at the time, so

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Speaker 1: I'll share with you what's going on in my world,

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Speaker 1: from book tours, animal encounters, delish meals, nature adventures, health

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Speaker 1: discoveries to swimming in Hidden Byron Bay beaches. Come with

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Speaker 1: me as I share my adventures with you, right o.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the first diary episode of the podcast for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. I have a special VIP guest with

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Speaker 1: me today. I no, diaries are usually not interview based.

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Speaker 1: They are usually a diary, and this will absolutely be

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Speaker 1: a diary episode. But I just happen to have a

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Speaker 1: VIP in the vicinity. So welcome to the podcast Dad.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm not sure I'm a VIP loss, but

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Speaker 2: welcome to all your listeners. Happy twenty twenty two in

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Speaker 2: very strange and difficult times.

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Speaker 1: Totally, and I do just want to quickly call this

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Speaker 1: one out for everyone listening. I know I probably sound

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Speaker 1: a little bit nasal. I have just been getting over

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Speaker 1: a bit of a cold, not the spicy cough, not corona.

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Speaker 1: I've done five tests and they're all negative. Also, you're

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Speaker 1: really well and Matt's really well.

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Speaker 2: So and I think you sound a bit better today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were saying I'm turning a corner, turning the corner,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted to call it out now if

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, she sounds a little nasal, Okay. So

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Speaker 1: the theory of today's ep is, we'll just talk a

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Speaker 1: bit about it's a diary episode. So I've explained to Dad,

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Speaker 1: this is a diary episodes. We talk about what's kind

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Speaker 1: of gone on. So the last episode that came out

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Speaker 1: was on Christmas Eve, as far as diaries go, and

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Speaker 1: you've been here for that whole time because you came

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Speaker 1: up to spend Christmas up here.

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Speaker 2: I did. I came on a road trip. I haven't

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Speaker 2: had a decent holiday for thirty eight years, and I've

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Speaker 2: just retired and I had a.

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Speaker 1: Few good holidays.

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Speaker 2: Come on, but only two weeks durations. The first time

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Speaker 2: I've had a four week holiday in about thirty eight years.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really enjoying it. It's very different. And I've

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Speaker 2: doing this road trip to your place for Christmas. And

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Speaker 2: my brother who lives in northern New South Wales for

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Speaker 1: Which so where technically in Northern South Wales as well?

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Speaker 2: He's at a place called Pumbleton, which is closer to

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful, scenic place, but fairly difficult to find.

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Speaker 2: And I did and while I was seeing him, I

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Speaker 1: What we did was basically, when you came to Bangalore,

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Speaker 1: and look after Monti and Roue too, poochas with chat

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Speaker 2: It was really convenient because that's such a good cook. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you're actually at Bracky with Matt this morning, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, every night that you come to our place,

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Speaker 1: it's like you enter this little health retreat. It's always

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Speaker 1: It's good that you come here and we're like load

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Speaker 2: It's really I've really been blessed to be able to

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Speaker 1: So and then you've done a week in Bangers and

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Speaker 2: And you could go for walks on the property and

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Speaker 1: You took us for a walk, and heaps of calves

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Speaker 1: about Christmas. Crimbo. So we were all we all did

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Speaker 1: I did my Christmas salad for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful salad.

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Speaker 1: You've done it before, yeah, when you and I have

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Speaker 2: over in moment. See that was you. That was celebration

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Speaker 2: It's beyond the serving dogs dogs. Yeah, that I had

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Speaker 1: The only issue with Suffik it's beautiful, but is a

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Speaker 2: don't necessarily agree with me. And that's fine, and I've

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00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: got my thoughts and beliefs and ideals, but I just

441
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: have to check myself every year and just check that

442
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: I'm not being judgmental of other people because they're entitled

443
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: to their opinions. The other New Year resolution that I've made,

444
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: I've just retired. I've got a townhouse at Talkie, which

445
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: is the surf coast of Victoria. It's a beautiful part

446
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: of Victoria. The weather it's not as good as up here.

447
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: But I'm seventy having just retired, and I would like

448
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: to attempt to learn the stand up paddle board. Oh.

449
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: That's a good.

450
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: I've done it at Hamilton Island, that sort of thing,

451
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: but I've never done it in choppy water. Yeah, and

452
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: so I'd like to take that up in the next

453
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: twelve months, stand up paddle board while I'm down at Talkie. Oh.

454
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: I like that. I feel like that's a really achievable goal.

455
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think it's healthy and it's good for

456
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: your core, and you know, it's just something different and

457
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: I think you know the fact that I have worked

458
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: for forty five years straight. I'd just like to over

459
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: the next twelve months a bit of.

460
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Speaker 1: R and R and visit Tristan.

461
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Speaker 2: I'd like to get to Tristan in Perth rather if

462
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 2: they open up he's in Western Australia. I'd like to

463
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: haven't seen him for two years because of COVID, Yeah,

464
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: probably longer, probably longer. Yeah, yeah, November it was twenty nineteen,

465
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: so it's longer. Yeah, So I'd like to catch up

466
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: with him, hopefully maybe Easter. Yeah, and I'll do a

467
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: similar sort of thing. It won't be a road trip,

468
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: but I'll go for three or four weeks, which I've.

469
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Made the most of it, yeah, which I've.

470
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: Never done in my life before. So I've had two

471
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: weeks here and there, but never really had this. See,

472
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel pressured to get home. Yeah, I'm taking

473
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: about seven days to drive back to Melbourne from here,

474
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 2: and you could probably do it in too if you

475
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: wanted to. But all taking seven days.

476
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, So Mum's episodes, when this

477
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: episode comes out, Mum's episode will come out on Monday,

478
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: and yours this one will come out on that Friday,

479
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: so we're calling it family. Oh all right, But Mum

480
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: said in her episode that the listeners will have probably

481
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: already heard on Monday. She said that she believes she's

482
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: just entered like the best part of her life, the

483
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: final third of her life, she said, I believe it's

484
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: the best. She said, when I was in my only twenties,

485
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: I had no responsibilities. I could travel for as long

486
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: as I wanted. And she said, but then she's like

487
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: stresses into your life. Mortgages, kids, family, all that kind

488
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: of stuff, and these are these little stresses, and she goes,

489
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm back at my early twenties because

490
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to answer to anybody. I do what

491
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: I want. I lived to march the beat of my

492
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: own drum. And I feel like that's kind of what

493
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: you're describing as well.

494
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: Would you say, I think so? I think so. Yeah,

495
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 2: your mother struggled, I think with being maternal and rearing

496
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: kids and not being able to work and not having

497
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 2: adult stimulation. And I think she sort of struggled with that.

498
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: And she as she said, she had a freedom before that,

499
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: and she's got a freedom now.

500
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: No. But it's like people are writing about this kind

501
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: of like freedom that comes when you retire as an

502
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: adult where you can because in your early twenties, like

503
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: you don't really know who you are. You're figuring yourself

504
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: out and yeah, and then there's a big hunk your

505
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: life that you dedicate to your kids and your career

506
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: of course. And I think she has said she's like, oh,

507
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm back to like just like looking after my farm

508
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: and looking at it. And I feel like what you're saying,

509
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: like you want to travel more, you want to learn

510
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: sat up, paddaboarding, live down in talks like you don't

511
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: have anyone to answer to it the ve clinic anymore.

512
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: No, it's a real weight off the shoulder, you know,

513
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: not having the responsibility of staff, not having to make decisions,

514
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: not having to administer, not having to pay salaries.

515
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're really low.

516
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: I feel it's a relief, really yeah. And it's a

517
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: weight off your shoulders. And I'm sure your mother's feeling

518
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: that now that she's not working. She loves her little farmlet.

519
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, which you'll probably visit on your way through.

520
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you give me a few things to drop

521
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: off this, so I will I will visit and say hello.

522
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, it's just interestingly, yeah, I agree with it. Yeah,

523
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: I just see it interesting. Like generationally, like Matt and

524
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: I both thirty six, and so we're at this phase

525
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: where where you know, we're like we'd like to buy

526
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: a house and we'd like to kind of, you know,

527
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: really focus on our careers and give that a read

528
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: hot crack, And I can feel how it's so different

529
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: to like where you and Mama are in your life,

530
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: Like you've got all that set up. You don't need

531
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: to like slog over mortgages as much as where we

532
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: are in our lives.

533
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: But as a parent, it's good to see your children

534
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: strive to succeed and have a passion and have a

535
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: direction and make the most of their opportunity. As a parent,

536
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: it's good. We all it's phase. Yeah, life is full

537
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: of phase.

538
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting. I just yeah, that's why I'm

539
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: really excited about these two episodes, because I think it's

540
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: nice to celebrate like entering a new phase, which is

541
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: what this whole year will be for you. It'll be

542
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: like you will get to do decide what you want

543
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: to do and where you want to be, and like

544
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: even after this chat, you head down to Grafton or yeah, barn.

545
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Yes that's right. I'm slowly snaking my way back home,

546
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, but with a.

547
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: Few extra stops. You're doing a few days in Bendigo and.

548
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, I'm going a long way and I'm

549
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: not going to hurry.

550
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how nice. I think it's beautiful and it's

551
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: nice to celebrate that too, And that's why I was

552
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: excited chat to you about that. I wanted to share

553
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: with you and the listener. Hello listener. It's hard. It's

554
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: interesting in diary episode, but when you're also interviewing someone

555
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: as well. But I want to share some of my

556
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two goals. Yes, So for my goal is

557
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll make this one, but I

558
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: am going to start put it out there. I want

559
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: to try and read three books a month when I can.

560
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: That's a huge challenge.

561
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: So we're recording this on the sixth of January and

562
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm starting my second book of January. So I've read

563
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: one's end.

564
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: That's good. It's great that you're doing it, but it's

565
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: time consuming too.

566
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you build your smarts, you build your lexicon,

567
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: you learn more words. But yeah, so I think two

568
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: a month is probably going to be more realistic, and

569
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to sub one out if I'm doing a

570
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: play or working on a script or something. If I'm

571
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: doing script analysis that month, that means I can take

572
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: one book off the list.

573
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, well, you're doing so many other things, so

574
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: you know, two a month is probably a reasonable.

575
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Except while jan is quiet, you know, like we're living

576
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: pretty isolated, like all of us are trying not to

577
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: get COVID, so we're kind of, you know, living pretty

578
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: pretty like isolated.

579
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: Oh you are, you are? Yeah, so you'll have a

580
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: little bit more time to do it.

581
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my main. So the other thing is I'm

582
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: a sugar monster, as you know, Dad and I have

583
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: the same sweet too, as I've taught you about the

584
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: banana bread at Woods. So I'm really trying hard to

585
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: just if I want something sweet to go for like

586
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: berries and healthy things and wholesome versions. And the next

587
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: book that I'm about to start reading is called Life

588
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Span by David Sinclair, which i'll definitely do a book

589
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: review on in the Diary episodes. But I really want

590
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: to get into intermit and fasting and doing all the

591
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: things that kind of made me feel good. And then

592
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: it decreases my two goals of decreasing inflammation and decreasing

593
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: blood glucose levels. Sure, so that's where the sugar, the

594
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: decreasing sugars comes wrong. And then I want to decrease booze.

595
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a massive drinker, but I'm a social drinker.

596
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: Sure, So I think you've got the self disciplined to

597
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: do those things.

598
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and you know I don't drink much. You

599
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: and I'm quite similar. But if i'm social, I'll have

600
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: a drink out with friends. So the last time I

601
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: had a drink was obviously news. We had Matt and

602
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: I had a glass of wine in the backyard and

603
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: then I just said, I'm not going to have another

604
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: drink until Valentine's Day if we go out Valentine's Day,

605
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: so that's the middle of feb.

606
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: That's that's very reasonable.

607
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think I'm just going to become a

608
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: bit more mindful with.

609
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: My drinking and your sugar intake.

610
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. My other goals are as you mentioned earlier.

611
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: I go to Los Angeles again in a few months,

612
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: in a couple of months, so I really want to

613
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: get an acting manager in USA and start auditioning. And

614
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to get my first acting by professional acting

615
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: gig in America and in Australia because I'll be back and.

616
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: Forth a lot having been there, have you got contacts

617
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: sort of?

618
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? But more school contacts like, yeah, I see, but yeah,

619
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: so getting a manager is one of the hardest things,

620
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: so I've got to build.

621
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: It's a big Yeah. It's a different world, isn't it

622
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: over there?

623
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? So yeah, that's kind of they're my goals for

624
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

625
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: Good good, Well, you know you're you're the person that

626
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: sets goals and achieves them.

627
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: So do you reckon?

628
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, yeah, I think. I think you've got a passion,

629
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 2: and you've got a direction, and you've got goals, and

630
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: you you really work towards them.

631
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, step Thank you Dad. You taught me

632
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: a new word this trip. Do you remember it? Don't

633
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: look at my notes.

634
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: On my memories.

635
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to try and say it. Thymatropism. Thymatropism,

636
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: what what was it again? I thought you were telling oh, no, thymotropism,

637
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: And then you taught me about it. A fly that

638
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: eats chocolate or makes chocolate or something.

639
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a tesla fly or.

640
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: But that's not linked to this word.

641
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: No. No, oh, there goes Gee. You should have You

642
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: shouldn't watered me up on that one.

643
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want him about any of this other than

644
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: I said, it's a diary, so.

645
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it. It will come to me later. Unfortunately.

646
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: The final thing I want to talk about quickly on

647
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: the pod is this is coming out on Friday, the

648
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: fourteenth of January, now Thursday, the thirteenth of January.

649
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, that's Tristan, your brother's birthday.

650
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Do you know how old he's turning?

651
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: He was born in eighty nine, so I can work back.

652
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: I think he'd be thirty three, three or thirty.

653
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: Four, So eighty nine that's eleven, so.

654
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Thirty two I think he'd be sure. I think thirty

655
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: He was.

656
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: Born in eighty nine, so twenty twenty two, thirty.

657
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Three he's turning thirty three? Yeah, okay, So so Tristan,

658
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he listens to our pods

659
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: or not. He's definitely his own little but he's just

660
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: got in.

661
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: He's a fiery Now he's not there yet, he's still

662
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: in the military, but he's been.

663
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Accepted.

664
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: He's been accepted to be a fiery at the end

665
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: of February, I think in Western Australia.

666
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: How good? So yes, what's your favorite quality? In celerated

667
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: Tristan my little bro who is a clearance right now

668
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: in the navy is growing navy. What's your favorite quality

669
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: about Tristan.

670
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: Well, Tristan, from a young age has sort of decided

671
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: to go in his own direction away from family. Really,

672
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: he went in his own direction and ploted his own path.

673
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: And you know, he was never a scholar, so that

674
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: was frustrating. We could never get him to achieve to

675
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: what potentially was his ability, because.

676
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: That's only from an intellectual.

677
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: With his English and his mass. He's always loved the

678
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: camaradri and he's always loved the sporting interaction at schools

679
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. He's always been. I would

680
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: call Tristan an adventurer. That's what I call him. He

681
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: likes to do things that often other people don't do,

682
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: like skydiving and bungee jumping and diving.

683
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: You've done both those things, have you not?

684
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: Not? Bungee jumping and diving with sharks at a young age,

685
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: And you know, he just does things that are a

686
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: bit of an adventurer, a bit of adrenaline junkie, I suppose, and.

687
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: I think we've all got a bit of that though,

688
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: because you've skydived a couple of times. I've skydive Tristan

689
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: skydive like five times. I think he was going to

690
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: do his He wanted to his training, I know at

691
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: one stage to be able to solo jump.

692
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: He did, he did, but now you know, the clearance

693
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: diving was a massive undertaking by him because it was

694
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: so intense.

695
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: I think he literally learned to like disarm bombs under

696
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: all that.

697
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all that, and they military, you know, though

698
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: it's great discipline, they try and break you mentally in

699
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: the training to see whether you're going to stand up

700
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: under pressure. And he managed to get through that course

701
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: and he became one of the few that transferred from

702
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: the Army to the Navy when he did that.

703
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: So this is amazing. But if you could just so,

704
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: you reckon he's an adventurer. Sorry to cut you off

705
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: that you Reckon's adventurer. What do you think is like? So,

706
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I think Tristan's got some beautiful like qualities, Like he's

707
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: a very present person, Like he's very in the moment,

708
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: he's extremely logical, he's very I think he's driven as well,

709
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: very very driven in a very different way to me.

710
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: I would say I'm creatively drawn to be driven.

711
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: He's a practical, very very pragmatic, very pragmatic, Yeah, and

712
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: quite opiniated in the way he goes about things.

713
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: He's not shy in telling you what he believes about you.

714
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: No, but in his own way, he's quite confident in

715
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: what he's doing now and he never was. He's developed that.

716
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: I think. I think the military has made him a

717
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: better human being because.

718
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: But that's all. This is a thing I think to

719
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: remember that's part of growing up, Like you meant to

720
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: be a rap bag in your twenties. I know I was,

721
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, like I was a party animal DJ like.

722
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: I think. I think it just so happened that he

723
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: was in the military in that age group where you're

724
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: growing and learning and developing, you know, I think, and they.

725
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: Stomp on you. You know, if you get out of hand,

726
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: they stomp on you. And you've got to accept that

727
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: criticism and a lot can't.

728
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's a different as very specific trait.

729
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's got so I would say if I

730
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: could sum trist nothing three, I'd say like drive, like

731
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: super pragmatic and very present. I think he's quite a present.

732
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Like when you talk to him, he's like there, but

733
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: then you don't hear from him for like a month.

734
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: No, but he's done a lot of in all these

735
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: interviews for the Fieries and the Military and and The Bachelor.

736
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: You know, he did an audition for the Battle.

737
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: He talked about it. I didn't know he did it.

738
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Did you get he got down to the final?

739
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: Did he do it?

740
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: He got down to the final?

741
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it. He's he's never told me he

742
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: did it. He just said he wouldn't mind doing it. No,

743
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: he got so he went through that process.

744
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is an interview process. And I think I

745
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm glad to say so. I'll talk

746
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: to him before he release his episode. I think it

747
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: was the Navy that said no, thank you.

748
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: You're right, okay. I wouldn't surprise me.

749
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: No, totally because what if he's, you know, said a

750
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: bad example. And i've heard the bts of that show.

751
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong, but I've just heard on

752
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: the grape vine they booze you up a lot before

753
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: you shoot, and so you've lost a bit of your

754
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: inhibition because you've had a couple of drinks.

755
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: Oh yes, they're all well, I don't see it, but

756
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: I've seen your episode and they're all always having cocktail parties.

757
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. So you lose your inhibitions

758
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: after a couple of drinks. Yeah, well, Tristan, happy birthday.

759
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, happy birthday for the thirteenth from me and me,

760
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: and I'll probably give you a ring. Tost I think

761
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: he's on a campaign camp and being tripped at the moment.

762
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is around around.

763
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's got time off, but I will be

764
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: in touch and.

765
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: For people listening, because the democratic graphic of this pod

766
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: is probably around my age and younger. What advice would

767
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: you have, just you know, at the start of the year,

768
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: do you have like one bit of a Is it

769
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: like just do what you love?

770
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: Is it like, well, I think you've got to enjoy

771
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: your youth, you know so, and you're we haven't spoken

772
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: about your book.

773
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot to do the book review.

774
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: That's all right, I was going to quickly do it.

775
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: So, yes, in the diary, we do a book the

776
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: mats my forgot, So in the Diary we do a book.

777
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: Review, right, because that covers a lot of things that

778
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: I would say are a pertinent to young people.

779
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well it's designed for young people. But okay,

780
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: so we'll do a book revival in one sec. But

781
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: what if you give like a theme or a sentence

782
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: or something for people to focus on for twenty twenty two.

783
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been it's so difficult for young

784
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: people in COVID to mix and simulate with each other.

785
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: And you know, I think, unfortunately that's not going to

786
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: change immediately. But I think you just got to have

787
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: a positivity and follow your goals and dreams anyway, and

788
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: at some point in time we will get through this

789
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: and build up this herd immunity whereby you're going to

790
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: be able to pursue you your aims and dreams.

791
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: So you would say keep a positive mindset, that'd kind of.

792
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: Be definitely keep a positive mindset going forward. I mean,

793
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: you've got to to achieve what you want to achieve.

794
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: So mine would be for people listening to this. And

795
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: I got it because somebody found a quote from Feel

796
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Ausly Failing the book and post it this morning, and

797
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I forgot that. I used to

798
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: have this written on my yoga mat every single day

799
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: and the quote is and it's a really nice one

800
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: for a mantra for the New Years. You've got to

801
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: show up and suck before you can show up and shine.

802
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: And I think if people know that, like, whether it

803
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: be you're at the start of the year, you're starting

804
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: a new goal, a new dream and new health goal,

805
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: whatever it is, like, it's going to feel funky and

806
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: gross at first, and you've got to sit in their

807
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: uncomfortableness of sucking before you can shine. So you've got

808
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: to show up and suck before you can show up

809
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: and shine.

810
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to do the hard yards. You've got

811
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: to work at what you want to achieve. It's not

812
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: just going to happen. And that's sort of what you're

813
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: saying as well.

814
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Now that's my man try to share with you. So

815
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: dads is stay positive and mine is show up and

816
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: suck before you show up and shine, Okay, before you

817
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: can show up and shine. Book review So, as you know,

818
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: if you're a diary listener, I do a book review

819
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: every week. I've read a book already, but I'm going

820
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: to save that for next week's diary. So Dad, you

821
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: are going to do a book review.

822
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: Well, I've just finished your book.

823
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Fearlessly failing.

824
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: Fearlessly failing and interesting. Interestingly, one of the pertinent points

825
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: there is not to be judgmental. So that relates to

826
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: me that comes out in that book. But the things remember.

827
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: Writing that, that's that you pick up on, like it's

828
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: interesting what people pick up on when they read something.

829
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, well, that's relevant to me, you know.

830
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: But the two main points with this book that I

831
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: couldn't get over how self deprecating or that you were

832
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: about yourself. It's like a memoir. It's like an autobiography

833
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: almost of your life until now. And you know, you

834
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: spoke about your weaknesses, your disappointment, your failures, your hardships

835
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: that you've been through and how you've used them as

836
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: motivation to move positively forward and achieve to the best

837
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: of your ability in the areas that you've been heading.

838
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: And that was one thing that came out to me.

839
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: You have to you have to. And I've always said

840
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: failure is just a tributary or on a side on

841
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: the on the pathway to success, and I really believe that.

842
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: But to come back to the self deprecating stuff, I

843
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: do that because why it's my nature. Yeah, that's how

844
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: I would talk like. But the other thing is it's

845
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: it's it's funny, like it's comedic, to pay yourself. It's

846
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: an Australot.

847
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's admirable that you're prepared to put yourself out

848
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: there like that, showing that you're human, the human side

849
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: of you and the weaknesses.

850
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: And I think it's I think it's a really cool

851
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: Aussie quality though, like I think Aussie's and I think

852
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Brits probably are as well. And i'd say key weis

853
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: probably are. We're self deprecating. It's not an American thing

854
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: at all, like they're about pumping themselves up. They're confident.

855
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: But Aussie will be like, yeah that was me, Like yeah,

856
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: I really dropped the ball there, or yeah I went

857
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: through this heart but really I was a well, I.

858
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: Think I think ozsies can relate to what you're saying.

859
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: And but it was meant to be funny too, like

860
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: people would laugh, Well.

861
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was lighthearted humor because of it,

862
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: and but I think more importantly people can relate to that.

863
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: And you did have a little criticism. You thought that

864
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: I over shared a little bit, didn't you.

865
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's your memoirs, so you know, I'm not

866
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: critical of it. It's just something that you know, I

867
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: picked up as I was reading.

868
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Just especially like the dating stories and stuff things like.

869
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, where you know you're fairly specific.

870
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't think I will.

871
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: I mean, well, me being part of your life, knew

872
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: who you were talking about.

873
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's so funny. So both Mum and Tristan

874
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: called me after they'd read the book, and Tristan called

875
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: me up laughing, going, oh my god. The heartbreak section

876
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: was my favorite, laughing because he was like, I could

877
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: pick you were talking about. Yeah, And Mum called me

878
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: up and she's like, oh girl, okayigure out who this

879
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: person is. I figured out and it's just a bit

880
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: of fun. But only us, only the people in that

881
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: would actually know who it is. But also, and not

882
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: to focus too much on the native, but I share

883
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: some beautiful stories in the love and Heartbreak section two, Yeah,

884
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: you do in a very positive light. So it was

885
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: just about being My goal with that was just like

886
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: be honest, no frills, like don't sugarcoat it, Lola, Like

887
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: let's just be real and let's just share the truth

888
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: so that if somebody, it's say, in their twenties, reads

889
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: this book and they're in a situation where someone might

890
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: be gaslighting them or a bit narcissistic or something like that.

891
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: They can see the flags and the signs. That was

892
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: the aim of the game.

893
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a good example for those

894
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: out there. The other thing that stood out to me

895
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: was that you developed a trust and respect for a therapist. Yeah,

896
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: and it's become a big part of your life and

897
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: it's been a positive for you to to help you

898
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: work through things and progress. And that was another big

899
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: point that I got out of the book. And I

900
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: think also just in conclusion, it sets a good example

901
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: for a lot of people out there to just keep

902
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: pushing on, as I say, in a positive way, and

903
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: even though they're going to have hiccups along the way

904
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: and failures and disappointments, just use it as motivation to

905
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: keep going forward and in doing that achieved to their

906
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: own ability basically.

907
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: And hopefully supersede that.

908
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: And hopefully supersede that. So I think there are the

909
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: positive qualities in that book are really good for.

910
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: A lot of I also just on the therapy thing,

911
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: and I know that your generation wasn't as like therapy

912
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: wasn't as spoken about, and it was a little bit

913
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: more mental health is always a bit more swept under

914
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: the rug. And so my goal is to normalize getting

915
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: help for mental health even when you feel good. That's

916
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: my whole shtick is like I learn the most when

917
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm feeling great and working with my therapist on just

918
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: processing every day things or past stuff, whatever it may be.

919
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: And so I'm really passionate about normalizing that for people

920
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: so that they go, I'm not broken if I go

921
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: to a therapist. You don't need to be broken. It

922
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: just means you want to. Like I call it gym

923
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: for your brain. You do like we do yoga, you exercise,

924
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: you love doing a ten thousand steps today. It's just

925
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: the equivalent of that for the brain and the mental health.

926
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think it's great. I mean, I've never

927
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: used a therapist's mind.

928
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: I would love you too, just for fun.

929
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: I'd probably have to watch the narrative a little bit.

930
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: I think with a therapy you just go with it.

931
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think obviously just seeing the effect on you,

932
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: there are so many positives in regard to getting some

933
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: one that you trust and that you can relate to.

934
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also not to like harp on and

935
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: on about phil failing, which is out now, by the way,

936
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: is there's a toolkit section where you can kind of

937
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: try on different health modalities, like if therapy isn't your thing,

938
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: Like there are other.

939
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Schools of thought, chiropractic or occupant. Yeah, heaps of them,

940
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: you've mentioned them all. No, it's an interesting read. I

941
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: thought it was an interesting read.

942
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: It's an easy read to tenth book eleventh, sorry eleven.

943
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 1: I love having a family member on the podcast because

944
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: you can be so honest and not feel like usually

945
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: if I have a guess, I'm like, I don't want

946
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: to like ruffle their feathers. But because it's a family member,

947
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: I can be like correcting. We can be very honest

948
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: with one another.

949
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I quite like it. So it's the eleventh book,

950
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: and it's it's very different to all the others, and

951
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: I think it's well worth a read. As I've said before,

952
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: I think you're a really positive mentor for young people

953
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: because because you walk the talk. I mean, you're not fake,

954
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: You're not putting something out there that you don't do yourself.

955
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: So and this book exemple of howies that.

956
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm glad you liked it, and you're starting

957
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: the federal book now that I got you for Chrissy yes.

958
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: I love my sport, as you know. So when the

959
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: Australian opens coming up, and I'll get back to Melbourne

960
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: probably in time to go, but you know.

961
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Get those rapid tests.

962
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: I have to get those rapid tests. So yes, I'm

963
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: reading this biography on Roger Feeder, who's been one of

964
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: the best tennis players in my lifetime.

965
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: Would you argue one of the best throughout his.

966
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: Own Oh, definitely, he's just he's just poetry in motion.

967
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: He might be the most successful tennis player, but he's

968
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful tennis players to watch because

969
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: of his technique really, and he started off a little

970
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: bit arrogant and have behavioral issues and say that is yeah,

971
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: but he learned to curb them, and he learned to

972
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: overcome his frustrations and now he's just But also for

973
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: presence on.

974
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Court, this is a this is my thing. Is that

975
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: also the twenties growing up like figuring yourself out, figuring your.

976
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: Values, Yeah, probably, and not enjoying losing.

977
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: I mean, no one likes like I've had Lisil Jones

978
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: on the podcast before, as you know, and she's like,

979
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: silver doesn't counts to an Olympian or to someone that

980
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: is so focused for you know, I don't know how

981
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: many hours a day an athlete trains, but it's their life.

982
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: Second best in the world doesn't count.

983
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: That's what That's what she would say.

984
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I don't fully understand that.

985
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not athletes, so we're not pro athletes,

986
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: so I imagine it's a very different. Yeah, and like

987
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: even is it? Is it an adul that's almost got

988
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: the O. C. D things where to twist the water

989
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: bottles or one way or something.

990
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: And he never walks on the course caught between games,

991
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: he walks around it really get something.

992
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got little idiosyncrasies. But I feel like footballers

993
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: used to have that to like Matthew Lloyd used to

994
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: pull the grass up.

995
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: They do, Yeah, they do. Yeah, they've got mental little

996
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: tools that they have to use.

997
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: How cool. I love I love learning, I love human behavior.

998
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: So that's why I love this.

999
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, all in all, I think the books

1000
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: you know you best of the eleven.

1001
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: Ah. Wow, it's the most honest of them because it's

1002
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: all yeah, you know, personal shared, personal experiences. Thank you

1003
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: for spending Christian New Year with us. I'm looking forward

1004
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: to Yamber tomorrow.

1005
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was really special to get up

1006
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: here and spend Christmas with you and Matt and and

1007
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: also to catch up with my younger brother Jeff of course,

1008
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: who's moved up from Victoria. And you know, I'd like

1009
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: to get up here more often, but you know, because

1010
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: of your travel commitments, whether you'll be here or not,

1011
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

1012
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Well, our dream is, like I was saying, our dream

1013
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: is to buy, and so it'll always be a base.

1014
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: I'll always just be following work, I imagine for the

1015
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: next big chunk of my life.

1016
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, look, I love your passion and I

1017
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: love the fact that you know you've got goals and

1018
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: you do strive to achieve them. And you know, I

1019
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: think you're going to really achieved your ability.

1020
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: And beyond hopefully touch wood, shall we. Thanks for jumping

1021
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: on the pod, and thanks for the honest chat. I

1022
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: love the no filter that we have when we chat

1023
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: because we do trigger one another as well, some days,

1024
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: don't we we do.

1025
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm really annoyed. I can't remember the meaning of that word.

1026
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: Neither can I, but I don't I have I'll just

1027
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: google it.

1028
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: Right now, Google it right now. So I was going

1029
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: to say your mind ease, Yes, just google it just

1030
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: to don.

1031
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: You remember refreshment memory. So it's how do we say it?

1032
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: Tim dropism, tropismotropism, tropeism, here we go. Yes, Thymotropism is

1033
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: a directional growth movement which occurs as a mechanosary response

1034
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: to touch stimulus. Talking about plants, that's.

1035
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: Come back to me, come back. We were talking about

1036
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: plants and whether touching them stimulates a positive effect in

1037
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 2: the plant, and you can get pros and cons saying

1038
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: that touching them is not good for them.

1039
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: I touch all my indoor plans and others.

1040
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: Others will say touching, you know, is a positive stimulus

1041
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: and they do well with it. So yeah, that's what

1042
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: it meant. I'd forgotten.

1043
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: No, Well, there you go. You can sleep well tonight

1044
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: knowing I can. I can, and I talked to my

1045
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: indoor plants, which you're meant to do as well.

1046
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: I think, Well, there's a lot out there that says

1047
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: that you should great.

1048
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: Thank you dad, lots you.

1049
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and may two thousand and twenty two be greatly

1050
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: successful for you and you.

1051
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: I hope I look forward to you showing me stand

1052
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: up paddle boarding in talkie when I visit.

1053
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: Well, as long as I'm not falling off the board,

1054
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: I'll be happy.

1055
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: I think I take a few falls before you land it.

1056
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to work on my belt on my balance,

1057
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: I think, but I will do that.

1058
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: And just quickly for listeners. So Monday's episode that is

1059
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: already live is a chat with Mum Wendy. Yes, and

1060
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: then next Monday's episode is going to be with Charlie Goldsmith,

1061
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: the Healer. And you know Charlie quite well, So that's

1062
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 1: next Monday's episode. And he's a wonderful force. We actually

1063
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: went down this path of really talking about health as

1064
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: opposed to he touches a bit on his healing journey,

1065
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: but he talks a lot about his beliefs on human health,

1066
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: and as you know, he's a very very healthy human.

1067
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, that comes out.

1068
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: I'll be really interested to listen to that one. Yeah.

1069
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've been for Dad into listening to a lot

1070
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: of our favorite health podcasts.

1071
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm enjoying them.

1072
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: I feel like you've entered like a health retreat world

1073
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: when you come to our house.

1074
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: Ah, well that's the benefit of coming here, I.

1075
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: Think, right, it's a reset. It is love you lots

1076
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: and yeah, let's make this year a goodie.

1077
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Bye the best, love you, bye,