1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Now we understand that there has been a call from 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the Transport Workers Union for urgent government action in an 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: effort to address security concerns across the Darwin bus network 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: following what they describe as a horrific assault on a 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: bus driver in Palmerston at the interchange on Monday morning. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Joining me on the line to tell us a little 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: bit more is the Transport Workers Union Branch secretary Ian Smith. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Ian. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Good morning CARDI. How are you going? 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Not too bad? I what happened on Monday morning at 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: the interchange. 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: Our understanding is that at about five am drivers than 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: just carrying out his normal duties and a passenger has 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: gone on the bus and attacked him for some reason. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: I'm not sure the reason yet. That we're attacking behind 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: the driver protection system that's in place, and unfortunately the 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: force that he used has managed to break open the 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: door on this with a favorit of force and started 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: throwing punches and hitting hitting our member in the head, 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: in the arm and quiet quite and you know, putting 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: him in a very very vulnerable position. Luckily, there were 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: some other bus drivers around at the time that I 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: came to his aid and the offender ran off on 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: my own understanding police are call. Our member had went 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: to hospital very badly bruised and shaken up and it's 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: still quite shaken that which is quite understandable. It's pretty aerifical. Man. 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: I concerned I have. I'm not sure the police are 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: following it up yet. So you know, if this is out, 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: this is any social behavior to control when they're physically 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: invading a driver's space, you know, we need action taken 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: on it. And we're aware of a pretty serious incident 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: incident from our members that happened four or five weeks 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: ago that potentially involved a knife, which is even more scarier. 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: So we need to put a stop to this. So yes, 35 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: we are certainly calling for me with the sake come. 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: We've had had a committee to son some great work, 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: but what we're seeing in Darwen in particular is the 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: situation out of control and needs to be addressed. 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Well that sounds that sounds actually quite terrifying, you know, 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: for that driver to be behind that the screening and 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: that person to be able to break through that and 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: then punch him and assault him. Now, we did get 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: in contact with the Northern Territory Police and they have 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: sent us through a statement saying that they're aware of 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: the incident. It was reported just before six am on 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: that morning, and the alleged incident or the alleged assault 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: is being investigated, but nil arrests have been made yet, 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: and that man took himself to hospital. I is he okay? 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 2: Our understanding, yes, he is well well. Our organizer in 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: Darwen's been in conscience contact with him and giving as 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: much as poor as he can. My understanding is the 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: company is also doing the same. Shame, So look where 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: our thoughts go out to himself and his family, and 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: no one should put up with this, and we just 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: need to make sure that whatever assistance he needs to 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: deal with the matter, he gets and we get him 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: out back on the job, you know, because and we 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: need to make change so that it's not just bus 59 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: drivers that need protection, it's a traveling public and we 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: need a great We have got a good public transfer 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: system in the territory, but the only social behavior is 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: out of control and we need we need to address 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: that well and very quickly. 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: And you said just a moment ago that around five 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago there was an incident as well involving a knife. 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: What happened there. 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's a bit scratchy, but I think it was 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: a pretty serious incident. So we're still investigating about members 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: are reported. It's a pretty serious incident. So I'm unaware 70 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: of the actual full circumstances, but that it is, it 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: was quite serious at once. We've been led to belief. 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: But you know, and those are the sort of things 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: that I know, I know the NTI government would say 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: totally unacceptable and we need to address. So I just 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: want to get around the table again and we have 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: an effected committee and address let's see if we can 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: do some stuff very quickly that puts extra police, extra 78 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: security guards in these trouble spots for longer periods, so 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: that we can stop this anti social behavior. Has to stop, Yeah, 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: because we can't wait till somebody's killed, whether that's a passenger, 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: whether that's the driver or even the perpetrator. We can't 82 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: wait for that to happen. We need to address it. 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: And as I said, we've written to the government calling 84 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: for some action and the first wave will be let's 85 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: sit around the table and let's get something in place 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: in the situation. 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: Have you had any response from the Northern territory government 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: at least. 89 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: Yesterday. So yeah, you know, the wills of the wills 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: of government don't turn as quickly as everything else. And 91 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: we'd expect that, Oh well I won't expect. I know 92 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: they'll be in contact with us. 93 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, as a bloody will should be, you know, 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: as they should be. And this kind of behavior is 95 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: not acceptable. It's entirely unacceptable for some pooor bugger to 96 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: go to work on Monday morning and you know, before 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: six o'clock in the morning, you're dealing with this type 98 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: of thing. It is. It's totally unacceptable. And do you 99 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: think that there's been an increasing anti social behavior on 100 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: our bus network. 101 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Well, if you speak to the drivers, I'll say yes. Look, 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: it gets to the It is one of those things 103 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: that occurs and industry across the border, and we'll have 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: moments when it gets worse at time to time. We 105 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: need to stamp it out. We need to in in 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: multiple ways. It involves education, it involves more policing. If 107 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: it involves as you're making sure the perpetrators suffer a 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: consequence for what they do. There's a whole range of 109 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: issues that we need to address and we have been 110 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: trying to address that with a committee, but it's raised 111 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: head now and that's the reason that you know, we've 112 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: spoken up. Yeah, a pure fact. No one deserves. No 113 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: one deserves to go to work and be punched in 114 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: the head, hit in the arm and have your private 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: space invaded. That's the scary part for me. 116 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Ye spot on, Yeah, you're spot on. But then you 117 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: also touched on it before as well. And every passenger 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: deserves to be safe on the bus network too, And 119 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, like I just think for somebody to be 120 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: assaulted when they're in their workplaces is horrifying. And then 121 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: we've had you know, we've had our listeners get in 122 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: contact with us at different times and tell us about 123 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: various things that have happened when they've been on buses, 124 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: and it is really tough. I know that you're always 125 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: going to see an element or a small you know, 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: a small you'd expect to see some small percentage sometimes 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: of people doing the wrong thing, But you don't want 128 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: to see this kind of thing happening on a regular basis. 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: No, And I'm sure everybody, all parties will agree with that. 130 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: But it's mat of getting the heads together and coming 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: up with a proper, safe way that we can achieve 132 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: the outcome we're looking for. Yeah, and you know, I'm 133 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: sure all I'm home. Well, I would expect that that 134 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: will happen. If it doesn't, we'll keep freshing until it does. Yeah. Well, 135 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 2: in fill such time that we've addressed the issue. 136 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've just received a message on our text 137 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: line from a driver saying, Hi, Katie, thanks so much 138 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: for having the TWU representative on the show to share 139 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the sad tale of a driver assault on Monday. It's 140 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: a daily ordeal dealing with some of this anti social behavior. 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: The mental health impact is terrible. I hope something's done 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: about this problem soon. 143 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 2: Well that's well, we'll be rest assured. The Transport Workers 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: Union will be doing everything to make sure that it occurs. 145 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Ian Smith, the Transport Workers Union Branch secretary for the 146 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: NT and South ASTRAA. I really appreciate you having a 147 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: chat with us this morning and making us aware of 148 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: this incident. We'll talk to you again soon. Thank you, Bye, 149 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Thank you,