1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Kate Torba and coming up on today's show, Mattsakowski's faux 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Holiday romance, The Kayla Tester reignites her feud with Anna 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Paul and has Sophie Casia course friction at the Essendon 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Football Club. But first, Summer Warn has divided opinions after 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: revealing she had a run in with a so called 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Karen at the Ed Sheeran concert in Melbourne. The daughter 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: of legendary cricketer Shane Warn, alleged as an older woman, 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: poured water down her pants because she refused to stop 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: singing and dancing at the concert. Now so some are 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: opened up about the awkward run in on TikTok Yes, So, 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Summer shared a seven minute video to a sixty two 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: thousand followers detailing the encounter, and she started the video 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: by explaining her family's connection to Ed Sheeran. So she 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: said not to be a pick me or make it 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: all about me, but Ed was really good friends with 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: my dad. I didn't realize that Ed Sheeron and Shane 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Warn were friends. But some spoke about how photograph one 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: of Ed Sheeran's songs was played at Shane's private funeral, 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: and also that Ed played at his memorial at the 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: MCG So it's very clear that the family have a 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: strong connection to Ed and his music. And some said 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: it's always a bit bittersweet going to his concerts because 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: of the emotional ties that they have to his songs, 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: and they always wish that Shane was obviously there with them. 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: And I'm glad she provided that context because I think 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: it was important to understand the frame of mind that 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: she was in at this concert. Yeah, now, it was 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: a family affair for the Warns, so some attended the 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: concert alongside her sister Brooke and also her brother Jackson, 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: as well as their partners and her best friend Charlotte, 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: And as you touched on Kate, some said that she 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: was feeling pretty emotional about the night, wishing her dad 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: could be there with them. Now somea didn't specify whether 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: her family were in a special VIP area or not, 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: but she shared a photo which appeared to be taken 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: from a grand stand, So I want to point out 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: they weren't in a mosh pit or on the floor 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: that is an important element of this story. Now, as 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: soon as Ed started playing, and her family stood up 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: and started singing and dancing as you generally do at 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: a concert, and when the song finished, one of the 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: girls in the row behind them told them to sit 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: down now. Sumer said she was quite shocked and glanced 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: back and was like, did I hear that correctly? But 47 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: she chose to ignore it. Then Shiver, which is a 48 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: high energy song on Ed's album, came on, and Summer 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: and her friends, of course, danced and sang along. They said, 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's a song that everyone gets up for. Now. 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: During that song, another woman in the row behind them 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: grabbed her friend Charlotte's arm and said, can you sit down? 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: All these people behind you cannot see. So again, she 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: was shocked by this reaction, and she said to her 55 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: followers in the video that she wasn't aware of the 56 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: rule that you weren't allowed to stand up and sing 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: and dance at a concert. So she turned around and 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: defended her friend to this woman and said, we're at 59 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: an effing concert, stand up and dance now. After that 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: exchange broke, her older sister told Sama to ignore it 61 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: and not create a scene. She was obviously aware that 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: maybe someone could be filming this and it could be 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: turned into something bigger. Unfortunately, things estcalated. From that point. 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: A third woman got involved. Let's take a listen to 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: what went down. 66 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: So this lady, I would say probably late fifties six 67 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: as Karen. I just feel this water poured thing, her water, 68 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: and she's pouring it down my pants. When she's pouring 69 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: it like all over my jeans are my top. So 70 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: I look back and she's got a water bottle in 71 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: her hand that's half empty. 72 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: And I look at her and I. 73 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: Go, excuse me, did you just pour water. 74 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Down my back? She goes, I don't know what you're 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: talking about. 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: And at this point I'm seeing red. 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I would be absolutely fuming if this was me, like 78 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: I would not have been able to hold back. I 79 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: would have caused a massive sea. I mean, this is 80 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: pretty brazen pouring a bottle of water down someone's pants. 81 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean some even included a photo and it showed 82 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: that there was a large wet patch on her jeans 83 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: and this wasn't just a sprinkling of water. She poured 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: half the bottle on her while I think the behavior 85 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: is disgusting I'm actually not ultra surprise because I feel 86 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: like there's a bit of gang mentality at these type 87 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: of events, particularly if people feel they're being put out. 88 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: So obviously quite a few spectators were like, hang on, 89 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: you're blocking our view, and I think it probably got 90 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: to a point where they were almost egging each other on. 91 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, when someone's doing something that's annoying you and 92 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: you look at them, and then they look at and 93 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: that's why it's all sad. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, 94 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: the fact that three separate people all told Summer and 95 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: her friends to sort of sit down, it kind of 96 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: does make you question how up and about they were. 97 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: But then I sort of think, well, you're at a concert, 98 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: what are you expecting. I wonder if there was an 99 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: element of that they knew who they were and that 100 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: they thought they were getting preferential treatment, you know, you 101 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: spoke about we're not sure if they were in the 102 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: VIP area. I actually don't think that the older woman 103 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: knew that it was Shane WARN's family, because I think 104 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: if she did, she would have acted completely differently. Now, 105 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: after the woman poured this water down Somemer's pants, she 106 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: confronted her, but the woman kept claiming it must have 107 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: been an accident, and she didn't pour any water down her. 108 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: Someone said she called the woman an effing caw and said, 109 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: you're a grown US woman picking on a twenty four 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: year old girl that is trying to have fun at 111 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: a concert. I mean, good point. Do you know what 112 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate that Summer included what her actual reaction was. Yeah, 113 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: I mean she was pretty fired up in this video, 114 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: so you could tell that she would have been fired 115 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: up in person as well. Her sister Brooke went into 116 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: full damage control. She could see that the incident was 117 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: starting to attract a lot of attention because there were 118 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of raised voices, and she told both women 119 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: to calm down and leave it. But some are said 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: by this stage she was too far gone. She was 121 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: seeing red. She was absolutely fuming, and she ended up 122 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: snapping a photo of the woman in the crowd, which 123 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: is you would literally do this cake, This would be you. Oh, 124 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: I definitely would do the same thing. I'd probably give 125 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: the woman the fingers. Well, we've spoken about on the podcast. 126 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: I just that's just my automatic response. Sometimes the people 127 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: are rude and it's a terrible one to have, and 128 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: so someone said that she was aware that she rage 129 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: baited this woman by taking the photo and she probably 130 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: made the situation ten times worse. But she wanted the 131 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: woman to watch the video back and be ashamed of herself, 132 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: and she included the photo tik tok and not to 133 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: be that person. But she did look like someone who 134 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: would have a go at you at a concert. So 135 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: she actually named in shape. Yeah, she concluded a photo 136 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: of the one. She didn't know her name, but there 137 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: was a photo of the woman in this video which 138 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: made me laugh. So has the woman been found? Because 139 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: normally what happens is the internet picks aside and then 140 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: they try and locate wells I looked in the comment 141 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: section and said woman has not been located yet. But 142 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: once the woman realized that Somemmer had taken the photo 143 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: of her, she started to get a bit nervous, so 144 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: she started tapping Somema on the back and asking her 145 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: did you take a photo of me? And somea said yes, 146 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: in fact I did. And it was at this point 147 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: the brook, the older sister had had enough. She saw 148 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: the woman touching her sister on the back and ended 149 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: up yelling at her get your hands off my sister, 150 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: and that is when the older woman then threatened to 151 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: get security, and she ended up disappearing for half an hour. 152 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: See if I were Summer, I would have got security 153 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: the second that woman poured water on my pants all 154 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: laid hands on me by touching me, the poking me 155 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: in the back. The difficult thing is you're still trying 156 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: to enjoy the concert at the same time. I can 157 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: just imagine these really romantic songs playing. What was this 158 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: argument is taking place. Imagine how many people's experience was 159 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: interrupted by this as well, because it would be hard 160 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: to ignore. Sometimes these things are entertaining, but if you're 161 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: genuinely there to see the artist, it probably would have 162 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: ruined a lot of people's time. Before the woman left 163 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: for security, though, Summer wanted her to know exactly who 164 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: she was dealing with, so she pulled out a photo 165 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: of her and Ed at his concert from a few 166 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: years ago, and she told her that man, right there, 167 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling him everything that just happened, and you will 168 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: not be allowed in one of his concerts ever. Again. 169 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually quite surprised that she shared this on social media, because, yeah, 170 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: a couple of people were like, it's giving, don't you 171 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: know who I am? Energy? Did she say what the 172 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: woman's reaction was when she showed her the picture of it? 173 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: She didn't. I wish she had shared that. Maybe she 174 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: can post a part two of this story time. As 175 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: you can imagine, though, this video elicited a huge response. 176 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: At the time of recording, it's had over one hundred 177 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: and eighty thousand views, and it raised a lot of 178 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: qus about concert etiquette. So there was a huge camp 179 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: of people defending the water throw, which confused me. So 180 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: one user wrote, to be completely honest, it's really annoying 181 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: when you're seated at a concert and the people in 182 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: front of you stand up and block everyone's view. If 183 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: you want to stand, buy a ticket on the floor, 184 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: and that comment got over two hundred likes. I don't 185 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: think that that stance is reflective of the battles people 186 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: are going through to get tickets. At the moment. It 187 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: is difficult to get concert tickets. I mean, we've just 188 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: recently done battle to get tickets to Hillary Duff and 189 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: you could not choose where you wanted to be. You 190 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: could only really get tickets that were available. So a 191 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: lot of the people that got tickets to Edsurance concert 192 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: that were seated probably wanted to be in GA on 193 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: the dancing and standing up. On the other hand, though, 194 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: there was a TikTok user who provided an interesting perspective, 195 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: and he said that he bought a seat because he 196 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: can't stand at a concert due to chronic pain. So 197 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: he said that when people stand up in front of 198 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: him in a seated section that costs a lot of money, 199 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: it's really disheartening and it ruins the concert for him. 200 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: He said, if you want to stand sing and dance 201 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: as a section for that, it's called ga. Another person 202 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: remarked that everyone seems to be having this experience at 203 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the Ed Sheeran concert, and someone pointed out that that's 204 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: because Ed Sheeran attracts such a wide range of ages 205 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: and different types of people. So there's the young party 206 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: girls and then the old Karens who want to sit down. 207 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: It's tricky, though, because I think when you go to 208 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: a concert you expect that people are going to want 209 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: to sing and dance. I mean a lot of people 210 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: did come out in defense of Summer. One user said, 211 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: aren't the rose staggered? So people behind you can see 212 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: I was standing up the whole time. I don't pay 213 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: for concerts to sit down, which again is a good point. 214 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: The seats are staggered. Another said Ed literally asks people 215 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: to stand, sing and dance. One person was confused as 216 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: to why Summer were sitting down in this sort of 217 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: nosebleed area if her dad was friends with Ed Sheeran. 218 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: They wrote, if you're friends with Ed, shouldn't you be 219 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: getting better tickets than just sitting in the stands, And 220 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: she replied we were offered a suite. I thought it 221 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: was a better atmosphere in the crowd, but I was wrong. 222 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: It's quite interesting because after Summer posted this call out video, 223 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: she actually went to the edge here and concert for 224 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: a second night, but she had more of a VIP section. 225 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: I went to go back and look at this video again, 226 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: but it's actually subsequently been deleted. I can't remember the 227 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: exact caption, but it was something along the lines I'm like, well, 228 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: this is much better. I don't know if she's winning 229 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: herself any favors by posting that type of content, because 230 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: there's been a few comments that have stood out to me, 231 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: acting as if people should be treating her better because 232 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: of her connections. I think you know, if you had 233 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: just put up and said, hey, what is the concert 234 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: etiquette here? Because I was at the edge here in 235 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: concert and someone poured water over me, she probably would 236 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: have got a better reception. Yes, I was in Bali 237 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: though with someone, and we may have exaggerated our relationship. 238 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Matt Tzakowski has set the record straight on a faux 239 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: romance he cultivated for a paid partnership. The awkward part 240 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: is no one was really talking about it. Can you 241 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: tell us more? Well, a few weeks ago, Matt was 242 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: in Bali and it seemed like he was trying to 243 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: that he was there with someone. I mean, we spoke 244 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: about it briefly on the podcast, but we were more 245 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: distracted by the fact that he censored his Tammy tattoo 246 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: in one of his pull Side first tracks. I mean 247 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: we did. I do remember saying that influencer Updates had 248 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: reported that he was out to dinner with a young 249 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: attractive woman and a kate came to the table that 250 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: said congratulations or something on it. We did mention that, 251 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: but again, not many people were talking about it. No, 252 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: no one was speculating. Nothing to what we've seen. When 253 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro was seen we also maybe people were trying 254 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: to respect his privacy bit well. On the nineteenth of February, 255 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: perth Now ran with an exclusive story reporting that Matt 256 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: had been spotted on a date with a mystery woman 257 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: in Bali. So, according to the article, Matt couldn't wipe 258 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: the smile off his face as he laughed and flirted 259 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: with his blonde date over dinner. Now, similar to what 260 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: influencer updates Au reported, the publication said that a waiter 261 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: brought out a dessert plate with the words congratulations written 262 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: in chocolate, which they said caused speculation as to what 263 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: the cup were actually celebrating. I never saw this online 264 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: at all. No, Well, they were the only publication that 265 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: picked up on it. And it's so interesting because the 266 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: article was accompanied by a photo of Matt dining at 267 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: the restaurant with a blonde woman. Now, so I need 268 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: to show you this photo to see your reaction, because 269 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: I personally think it's ai ah. I mean, anyone who 270 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: would have seen that photo would have known that that 271 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: was a setup as well. Yeah, it's just so weird 272 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: because the woman's faces blurred in this strange way like 273 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: it does. It looks like a stock photo. Also, anytime 274 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: there's a pat photo like that, quite often the people 275 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: have set it up well. Even under the photo it 276 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: says credit supplied, so the supplied. It also doesn't look 277 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: like one of those sneaky photos that someone would have 278 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: taken on their phone at the table either. Yeah, I 279 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: don't understand, because if they had done that, it would 280 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: have looked so much more realistic. Because, as we touched 281 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: on at the start of the episode, this was all 282 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: a part of a paid promotion with Jetstar. So Matt 283 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: ended up sharing a video on his Instagram late last 284 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: week responding to this article, and he started the real 285 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: out like. 286 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: This, I want to set the records straight. This here, 287 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: we're just mates. 288 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Is it just me? Or did he steal that line 289 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: straight out of Bailey Smith's mouth from the Carl and 290 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Jackie Oh Show where he friend zoned Tammy Hembro like, 291 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: do you think he was playing on that? I reckon? 292 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he specifically came up 293 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: with it, or the people that he's working with came 294 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: up with it. They probably had a bit of a 295 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: script for him. Yeah. Well, he went on to confirm 296 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: that he was in Ballei with someone, but they exaggerated 297 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: their relationship to get some free perks at dinner. Now, 298 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: this was the marketing hook to promote the fact that 299 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: Jetstar have this vacation competition going, and he invited people 300 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: to share their best FIBs that they've told to win 301 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: a free holiday. Now I think that's top tier from Jetstar. Yeah, 302 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that they went this far. 303 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: It's showing how creative people are having to get with 304 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: their paid partnerships and ads. The only failure of this 305 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: is that I think that he probably should have teased 306 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: this fake relationship a bit more on his Instagram story 307 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: instead of having the fake article and the newspaper. Yeah. 308 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he took a lot of photos of his 309 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: meal at the restaurant, so there were oysters and stuff. 310 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: But he didn't do the thing that Tammy Hembro did 311 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: where you could see remember when she posted a photo 312 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: with Bailey Smith in his hand was on her leg, 313 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: Like he needed something like that to create a bit 314 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: more speculation. So the execution wasn't one hundred percent. But 315 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I actually really like this paid promotion and at the 316 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: time of recording, the reels had over ninety four thousand views. 317 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: The only thing is next time he gets funny about 318 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: people speculating about his private life or you know, taking 319 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: things a step too far. Does he not really have 320 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a leg to stand on, considering he was happy to 321 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: do it just to get paid. I don't think Matt's 322 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: ever had a leg to stand on, considering he's got 323 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: a podcast that's about relationships. So I actually think this 324 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: was completely fine on his behalf. I mean, it got 325 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: really good feedback. Someone said, Matt, this is top tier advertising. 326 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: There wasn't any negative comments. I think people saw it 327 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: for what it was, a bit of a laugh. Also, 328 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: the public perception of him has completely changed and people 329 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: think he's I don't want to say Australia's sweetheart, but 330 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: he seems to be you know, obviously puppy dog energy. 331 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of older people now who watched I'm 332 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: a sleb who know who he is and think he 333 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: is this lovely boy. I wonder if Jet start paid 334 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: perthono out around the article. That's what I want to know. 335 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I think they did, and I'm wondering also if they 336 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: got inspiration from Tammy and Bailey Smith's Tinder promotion. This 337 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: is just upping paid partnerships. Though like upping the game 338 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: with them. I feel like we've got to be on guard. 339 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: There's so many influencers who were trying to trick their 340 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: audience ever since Indi Clint had partnered with TBH where 341 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: she pretended that she was working an office job. When 342 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: we saw jazz Hands and her friends pretend that they 343 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: were having some feud recently as well, like, well, it 344 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: just shows that it's consumers of social media content they're 345 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: not happy with just someone jumping in saying, oh this 346 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: is the skincare I use like, brands and influencers have 347 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: to be a lot more clever, and if they're able 348 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: to generate media attention as well, it's even better. 349 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: And I told you guys that Anna Pole lets her 350 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: brother film her spicy content. I wasn't lying, just by 351 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: what she says. 352 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester has reignited her feud with Anna Paul a 353 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: year after it nearly broke the internet. The outspoken influencer 354 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: accused her formas sister in law of getting her Instagram 355 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: account banned after she airs some disturbing audio from their past. 356 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: OnlyFans collab Kate, can you tell us more well the 357 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: truth between the former Best Friends is now over after 358 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Mikayla shared audio from an explicit video she appeared in 359 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: alongside Anna Paul. Now. The vision resurfaced on Reddit two 360 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: weeks ago and was posted by an anonymous user who 361 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: claimed the video was still available for purchase on Anna 362 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: Paul's OnlyFans account. Do we believe that is just some 363 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: anonymous person who decided to get involved or whether it 364 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: was someone from Michayla's camp who planted the video? Now, 365 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: I genuinely think it was legit because this was posted 366 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: in Anna Pol's snark Reddit. People are very invested in 367 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: that story. I mean, you can see why someone would 368 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: want to be anonymous about it, though you probably don't 369 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: want to be putting out there necessarily who you subscribe 370 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: to on OnlyFans. He is no video I found, Yeah, 371 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: it's quite private. Now. The reason why Mikayla Tester was 372 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: so interested in the vision is because it seemingly proves 373 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: her claim that her former boyfriend and Adas Paul was 374 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: involved in filming his own sister, Anna Paul's explicit OnlyFans content. Now, 375 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: Michayla made those claims at this time last year as 376 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: part of her monumental takedown of the Paul family. Side note, 377 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: isn't that weld that that was a year ago? I 378 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: remember like almost writing a thesis on that topic the 379 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: amount that we come with that, Yeah, and then became 380 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: the Tammy Hembro thesis. And yeah, this it does actually 381 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: feel like quite some time ago now that we're talking 382 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: about it now. For full transparency, I haven't actually viewed 383 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: the content. It has been removed from Reddit. I have 384 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: heard the snippet of audio from the video though, because 385 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: it's still available on Mikayla's TikTok, and I have to 386 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: say the voice of the man directing behind the camera 387 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: does sound like Adas Paul. As for the vision. This 388 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: is what Mikayla said. 389 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: About it on board a video off her site yesterday 390 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: yesterday of me and her Her brother is clearly speaking 391 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 3: in the video. 392 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: We're both bad, jested. 393 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing, nothing, And it's a collaboration video. Babes, you 394 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: know what that is. She's directing me what to do 395 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: in the video while her brother's. 396 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Like, yep, all good to go. 397 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: One minute seventeen seconds is jiggling my clothes on now. 398 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Multiple people who watch this video on Reddit before it 399 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: was deleted backed Michayla's claims about the vision. They said, 400 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: this is what happened in it. How did Anna not 401 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: demand someone and a team to a full audit of 402 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: her videos and at least remove the ones that Mikayla 403 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: Tester is in or the ones that her brother is 404 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: in the background of. Clearly, Oh, I just don't understand. 405 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean, they've had a lot of time, they've had 406 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: a year to go through the content. The fact that 407 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: it's still for sale is not a good look, particularly 408 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: because Mikayla Tester is not earning anything off it. My 409 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: only thought is perhaps after Mikayla completely canceled Anna Pole, 410 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: she thought, well, this is my only revenue stream. That 411 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: video is probably going to be downloaded a lot of 412 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: times by people I'm going to just make money off it, 413 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: I might as well keep it up. At first, I 414 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: was surprised it's taken a whole year for some one 415 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: to notice Addams Paul's voice in the background and make 416 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: it public. But then I'm like, hang on, the people 417 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: who are buying Anna Paul's videos probably don't really care 418 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: about the Internet drama like They're looking at it for 419 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: very different reason. Some guys just listening to and then 420 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: hold on on his end. Who is his voice in 421 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: the background. My first reaction when Michayla made these allegations 422 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: a year ago was how did she not think it 423 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: was weird in the moment that her boyfriend was filming 424 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: his sister's spicy content with her in it as well. Now, 425 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: fortunately she addressed this in the recent TikTok, and it 426 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: turns out she did think it was weird. Let's take 427 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: a listen how I did. 428 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: Think it was weird in the moment. I did think 429 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: it was weird, but he would gas light me into thinking, oh, 430 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: it's normal. And where German? 431 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: Where German? I don't know if being German is quite 432 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: an excuse for it. As someone with the last name Tor, Yeah, 433 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: we've got German helly doing what that means? Yeah. It 434 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: does turn out that Anna Paul's ex long term boyfriend, 435 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: Glenn Thompson also allegedly thought it was weird. In the 436 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: comment section on the video, Mikayla wrote, Glenn expressed his 437 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: concerns too, as did I. They would both say they 438 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: were just European and that's normal to me. They would 439 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: pile on Glenn behind his back, calling him weird for 440 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: even thinking that way the absolute gas lighting. I was like, Oh, 441 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: it's weird of you guys to think anything. No, it 442 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: is weird of you to be filming your sister's OnlyFans content. 443 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: The only normal reaction from a brother when they see 444 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: the sister in bathers or a shim under her is 445 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: yuck and to pretend to vomit. So if you hate 446 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: to break it to you, but Anna was not in 447 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: baths in this clip. She and Mikayla Tester both had 448 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: their boobs out. Now late last week, this feud intensified 449 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: even further when Mikayla accused Anna of getting her Instagram 450 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: account bad, so Mikayla revealed her account had been permanently 451 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: disabled for apparent fraud and deception. It is the second 452 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: time that Mikayla has lost an Instagram account with almost 453 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: a million followers. Back in twenty twenty, her Instagram account 454 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: was disabled after someone allegedly stole her username and imitated 455 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: her yeah, and Mikayla wasn't able to set up a 456 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: new account under her original name until twenty twenty two 457 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: after a fan returned it. So she worked really hard 458 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: over the last four years to gain her followers back. 459 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: She had nine hundred and eighty thousand followers at the 460 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: time her account got disabled again, which was earlier this month. 461 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: This time around, Instagram flagged Mikayla's account for fraud and deception, 462 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: but Michayla denies any wrongdoing and instead blame what she 463 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: calls a corrupt industry. Now, while she didn't name Anna 464 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: Paul outright, she dropped enough clues to know who she 465 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: was talking about. Let's take a listen to what she said. 466 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: Like, they've banned me for frauden deception? 467 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: What frauden? 468 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: What deception? Babes Because I know a lot of fraud 469 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: and I know a lot. 470 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: Of deception, and it's not over here. You're after the 471 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: wrong guy. Now I got messier because Michaela went on 472 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: to say that she's not the one who lures fans 473 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: to her spicy site through incentive scams, nor is she 474 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the one who makes her brother date women so he 475 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: can make fifty percent of their income disappear. Now, they 476 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: were two of the claims that Mickayla made against Anna 477 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: and Adas last year, which they denied. As to how 478 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: her account got shut down, Mikayla believes it was a 479 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: targeted attack on her. She said she didn't blame Instagram, 480 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: but instead those who either paid for bots to wreak 481 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: havoc on her account. Interestingly, last year, during Hotel All 482 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: on the Polls, Mikayla spoke in depth about how Anna 483 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: and Adams would pay to send bots to people's accounts. 484 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: I need to point out they were unproven allegations that 485 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: Anna and Adas were yet to speak on. It really 486 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: got me thinking that this must be a thing that 487 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: people do, because a lot of influencers have lost their 488 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: accounts when they've had a massive amount of people following them. 489 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Sky Wheatley always seems to be kicked off 490 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: her TikTok playing Devil's advocate here. Do we think that 491 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: Mikayla is trying to reignite this feud so that she 492 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: becomes more relevant, because obviously she was most spoken about 493 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: influencer at the start of last year. That sort of 494 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: waned off a little bit. It seems like people are 495 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: only interested when she speaks about the polls. I think 496 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: it's more a case of something she has happened to her, 497 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: but she's strategically using it to her advantage. I mean, 498 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: fortunately she got her Instagram account back on Saturday. She 499 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: has yet to speak about how she managed to get 500 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: her account reactivated, but she had a special update so 501 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: on her story, she announced that the podcast she launched 502 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: last year to call out the Pool family is back 503 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: for another season. So she shared a screenshot of her 504 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: unsaid podcast Instagram account with the caption peep the new 505 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: host so excited and tagged her best friend Bailey. Now, 506 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: Mikayla actually hosted the first season by herself. Initially, she 507 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: was going to be joined by her then best friend 508 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: and assistant Alice Mackenzie. However, they had a falling out 509 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: and Alice is now friends with Anna Do we Reckon? 510 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: She's going to steer clear of talking about the polls. 511 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: I mean, on her last episode of a podcast she 512 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: said that was it for her. She's not speaking about 513 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: them again. It seems like she has reignited this feud 514 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: for a reason. I mean, based off her recent actions, 515 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like that she has more to say about them. 516 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, would you listen if she didn't talk about 517 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: the polls? Because personally I probably wouldn't. But I think 518 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: people have lost interest in the saga. I think that's 519 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: been and gone. I think she needs to talk about 520 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: something new in order for people to actually tune in. 521 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, she has a pretty interesting life. I mean 522 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: I think there's lots of things that she could talk about. Yeah, 523 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: I think that maybe she's used this Paul drama as 524 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: a hook to get people interested in again. But it's 525 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: going to be about other things as well. 526 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: I always had this thing with partners that I want 527 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: to save you, like I'll look after you. 528 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: Speculation is mounting that Sophie Keisha's back to back relationships 529 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: with two Essendon footballers created friction behind the scenes. The 530 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: pajama entrepreneur data defender Sophie vander Hoovel before moving on 531 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: with her teammate Mattie presspackis now. Sophie spoke about the 532 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: complicated relationship timeline on the Inherited podcast Can you tell 533 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: us more about it? It's so funny because there's so 534 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: many Sophie's going on in this. Stopping concluding myself now 535 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: before we get into it, I want to point out 536 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: that Sophie Kasha never explicitly named Sophie vander Hoovel in 537 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: this interview, but for anyone who knows the relationship timeline, 538 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: it was very obvious who she was speaking about. Now. 539 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: She reportedly started dating Sophie vander Hoovel two months after 540 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: her engagement to basketballer Maddie Garrick ended, and listeners will 541 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: remember that there was a lot of commentary around this 542 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: new relationship because Sophie vander Hoovel there's a striking resemblance 543 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: to Maddie. I mean, it made things very awkward. They 544 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: literally looked like twins. Yeah, they really did. It was 545 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: clear that Sophi Keisha had a type, and the fact 546 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: that she was also a sports person as well. Everyone's like, 547 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is her type to a t. Now, 548 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: the two Sophie's kept their relationship under wraps until they 549 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: were spotted together at the Sam Smith concert in Adelaide 550 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: back in January twenty twenty three. Hows had been three 551 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: years ago? That story, I remember. That's probably one of 552 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: my favorite stories that we actually covered on the podcast. 553 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: We did do the story at our own detriment, because 554 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: I feel that the sadc acts us or whatever. At 555 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: least we're impartial. I feel like saying, though we literally 556 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: promote the state all the time, anyway, you should be 557 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: able allowed to a pepper a bit of criticism here 558 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: and there. Anyway, now, Sophie dating Sophie vander Hoovel, she 559 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: was also friends with her now girlfriend Mattie Presspackis, who 560 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: is vander Hoovel's teammate at the Essen Bombers. Now on 561 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: the Inherited podcast, Sophie explained that Maddie pulled her aside 562 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: while she was dating Sophie and said she didn't like 563 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: the way she was being treated. Let's take a listen 564 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: to what she said. 565 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 4: But initially what happened with Maddie was, yeah, it's being 566 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: treated very poorly again, and as a friend, she just 567 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: pulled me aside alongside other friends. 568 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: But Maddie was obviously I was just drawn to it. 569 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: I can't explain it. I was like, you deserve more. 570 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Oh God, surely this would have caused a bit of 571 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: tension down at the footage club. Yeah. I mean, if 572 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: you were Sophie vander Hoovel, I don't think you'd be 573 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: particularly pleased that your teammate was essentially telling your girlfriend 574 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: that you deserve more, and then a couple of months 575 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: later she's then dating your ex. You'd just be like, 576 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: what is going on? It's very repiniscent of that Seinfeld 577 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: episode where Jerry and Lane try and get involved in 578 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: this couple's breakup because they want to date the girlfriend 579 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: and the boy. They've essentially got the hots for this couple. Yeah, 580 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: and they become the shoulder to cry on and then 581 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the whole spiel is and then you're just there. So 582 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: maybe Mattie Prespeccus is a Seinfeld fan. She got some 583 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: inspo from that because it seems to have worked for her. 584 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting because Sophie did preface during this interview that 585 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: she and Maddie spent a lot of time together just 586 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: as friends, and Maddie was just always there, as you said, Kate. Now, 587 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: Sophie did refer a number of times during this interview 588 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: that her previous partners had been unfaithful. Is not clear 589 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: which partner or partners she was referring to, but it 590 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: made me think. I wonder if Maddie could have potentially 591 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: squealed on Sophie van Hoove for doing something on a 592 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: team trip or when they're out and about. I mean, 593 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: that is complete speculation. There is no proof at all 594 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: that has happened, but I suppose that is the danger 595 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 1: with Sophie, k she' putting out information like that and 596 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: not being specific about who it related to, because that's 597 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: when the rumor mill goes into overdrive. Sophie also threw 598 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: shade at Maddie Garrick in this interview, and I want 599 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: to point out before we get into this section of 600 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: the podcast, because she date people with different names. Because 601 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: we've got Maddie Garrett, Maddi Presspackers, then she's got Sophie 602 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: vander Hoover with the same name as her. It's all 603 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: very confusing. Also the fact that the women look the 604 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: same too, like it's and the host Ruby are Sophie, Well, 605 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: what makes her connection with Maddie different to the past 606 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: toxic relationships she's been in a bit of a loaded question. Yeah, 607 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: And Sophie said that despite Maddie press Packers being ten 608 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: years her junior, it was really refreshing to finally date 609 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: someone who had their life together. And she said that 610 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Maddie is in a great financial situation because she owns 611 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: her own house and car let's hear more of what 612 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: she said. 613 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: I always had this thing with partners that I want 614 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: to save you, like I'll look after you, right, you know. 615 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: I was in a long term relationship with someone who 616 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: did not financially contribute to one thing. I funded this 617 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 4: person's life for years, and I look back and go, 618 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: you idiot, But I wanted to be. 619 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: That person and save them and I'll look after you. 620 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: Whether meeting Maddie, I've been like, wow, you have your 621 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: own stuff, or we can do this together. Yeah, because 622 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: someone actually is contributing, not just money, energy, time, commitment. 623 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: It's half half. It's fifty to fifty. It's a bit underhanded, 624 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: isn't it a bit how you're going? I mean, she's 625 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: got to be talking about Mattie Garrett there. I mean, surely. 626 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, she dated Matti Garrett for a number of years. 627 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: She's referenced the fact that she funded this person's lifestyle 628 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: for years. It's a little bit awkward, it is. I mean, 629 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: how would Mattie Garrett feel, particularly because she's saying, well, 630 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: this twenty five year old she has her life together 631 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: way more than you ever did. Like it's a massive burn. 632 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: She also shared in this interview that she's come to 633 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: the realization that she stayed in unhappy relationships and situations 634 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: that weren't right for her because she wanted to make 635 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: leaving her marriage worth it. Let's take a listen to 636 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: more of what she said. 637 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: I think I kept myself in situations that were not 638 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: right for me because I needed to make leaving my 639 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: marriage worth it. I needed to make completely blowing up 640 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: my whole life and someone else's life worth it. So 641 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: I tried so hard to make the next relationship work 642 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: because so many people doubted me and thought I was 643 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: an idiot and like, you're not even a lesbian. I 644 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: was like, I'll prove to you I am, and like 645 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: I didn't realize it at the time, that's what I 646 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 4: was doing. 647 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm able to look. 648 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: Back now and go, you know, I proposed to someone 649 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: and then I dated this person, and I was flying 650 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: into state to see this person, and I can now 651 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: go with growth and maturity, why was I doing that? 652 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: None of them were the right place for you. 653 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean we've all been there. Once you get into 654 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: a good relationship, you're like, what that? Why was I 655 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: putting up with that bullshit? It does provide an interesting 656 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: perspective because it would be so awful if people weren't 657 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: taking your sexuality seriously and you felt like you had 658 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: to prove that you really you made the right decision 659 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: and you were really into women like that would be 660 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: so tough. Yeah, it's clear that Sophie felt like she 661 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: had to prove that these relationships were legitimate, which went 662 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: staying in them sadly. Now. A couple of weeks ago, 663 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: we reported that Sophie Kesha had officially changed her daughter's 664 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: last name ahead of it first birthday. Now. She confirmed 665 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: the news on the Inherited podcast, saying this. 666 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: I've recently changed her name to have Mattie's last name 667 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: as well, legally. 668 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: So beautiful. Yeah you did that this year. I did 669 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: that for her first birthday. 670 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 4: I changed her name to be Maddie and my name 671 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: hyphen together because she is her mum. She's been that. 672 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: Mattie was the first person I ever told I was pregnant. 673 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 4: She came to all my appointments with me. You know, 674 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: she's as much of Vesme's mum as I am. And yeah, 675 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: now we bought a house together. We are living life. 676 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's hectic, and yeah, I'm sure at times 677 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 4: it's really fucking difficult for her, but she she signed 678 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 4: up for it and she loves me, and that's that's 679 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 4: all I wanted. 680 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: Again, having a child, has completely changed me as a person. 681 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what came over me when Sophie was 682 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: saying this, I started to feel really emotional. I'm like, oh, 683 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: that's so beautiful like that. As May now has two 684 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: mom and just hearing about how pivotal Mattie prespactis had 685 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: been in her life and this rock to all, I 686 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: was like I almost had tears in eyes. Yeah, for 687 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: people who know us, that is just not us. I've 688 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: been having these situations where I've found myself close to 689 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: tears that you know, things like this that I wouldn't 690 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: expect to feel emotional over. Well, on that note, before 691 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: we do get too emotional, that is all we have 692 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: time for today. Thank you so much for listening to 693 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: this episode, and thank you again for all of the 694 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: support on the Mum's group. We do have a new 695 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: episode coming out on Wednesday, so stay tuned for that one. 696 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: We also have an episode of Outspoken Plus coming out 697 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: on Thursday where we chat about friend of the podcast, 698 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: Olivia Mathers. She is a sister, of course, of Isabelle Mathers. 699 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: We had a bit of a running with recently and 700 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: she had a video recently go viral for all of 701 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. We will be chatting about that on Thursday. 702 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: We're also going to be talking about why Georgie Stevenson's 703 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: financial status is back under the microscope. 704 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: Now. 705 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: If you're not an Outspoken Plus subscriber, I need to 706 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: ask what are you doing? Because you were missing out 707 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: on a bonus episode ab Outspoken every Thursday. It's only 708 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: five ninety nine a month to join up, and you 709 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: get an extra episode every week if you want to 710 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: sign up. 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