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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. A new questioned a fonder, A

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Speaker 1: new question of Fonda a text message I fantasize about

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Speaker 1: sending or receiving. Funny that your mind went to receiving,

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Speaker 1: My mind went to sending.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think I found it hard to engage

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Speaker 2: with the sending one because I don't fantasize about that.

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Speaker 2: If I'm really fantasizing about sending something, I'll probably to

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Speaker 2: send it.

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Speaker 1: What about if the person's like not no longer with us?

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Speaker 2: Oh didn't I didn't open any door to send in

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Speaker 2: a message to a dead person. Yeah, hmm, yeah, that definitely.

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Speaker 2: That is that the way you've gone.

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Speaker 1: Uh, sending one for me lit up because there are

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Speaker 1: people that I can no longer get in touch with,

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Speaker 1: either because of circumstances or because I didn't get their

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Speaker 1: number at the time. Oh you know, like I had

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Speaker 1: an interaction with them and then I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: that was awesome. And then I haven't you know, like.

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Speaker 3: As the one that got awake kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: No, I know, like like a stranger yeah that I've

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Speaker 1: had like a really amazing encounter with, and I'm like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that person's really cool. I wish I could tell them

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Speaker 1: that was really great and how that like helped me.

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Speaker 1: And then there's one of them is an ex relationship

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Speaker 1: who blocked my number. Oh yeah, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: really wanted to I can't find them anymore, and I

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Speaker 3: Want to say you up question mark, No, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: I wanted to apologize yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah about how

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Speaker 1: it ended because it was yuh, it wasn't how I

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if anyone's ever had that,

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Speaker 1: but like they're well in their rights to like, you know,

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Speaker 1: rights of a breakup. You break up with someone, they're

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Speaker 1: so entitled to block you from everything, like however's going

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Speaker 1: to help them of course, because I broke up with

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Speaker 1: her as well. So yeah, and I just felt really

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Speaker 1: shit about how it went. And then I, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I've probably stewed on that for like, ah, eight years,

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Speaker 1: nine years. I reckon every now and then she'll come

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Speaker 1: up and I'll be like, oh, I just didn't do that, right,

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Speaker 1: feel guilt there, yes, But then the other part of

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Speaker 1: it is like am I doing that for her? Or

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Speaker 1: am I just doing it for me?

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Speaker 2: I was just about to say, you once gave me

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Speaker 2: some profound advice.

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Speaker 1: Past Will, He's good, past Will.

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Speaker 2: I was about to message someone who I'd had a

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Speaker 2: relationship with, like a shorter relationship with, and I was

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Speaker 2: really I was ashamed, embarrassed, and just like around how

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Speaker 2: things ended. Yeah, And I remember I was saying, I

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Speaker 2: really want to write this, and I think I was

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Speaker 2: raining it past you. I was like, I want to

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Speaker 2: write this text message and I don't want it to

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Speaker 2: be like, I don't want to make it worse for

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Speaker 2: them or anything. And you said to me, are you

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Speaker 2: doing that to alleviate guilt for yourself or are you

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Speaker 3: And I thought about more.

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Speaker 2: I was like, do you know what if I make

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Speaker 2: attacked again with that persons probably making making things worse

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Speaker 3: Exactly, you know exactly. It's almost like I.

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Speaker 2: I came to realize that it might actually be helping

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Speaker 2: them if they are in a position right now where

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Speaker 2: they think negatively on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And that's in the same situation. Yeah, good advice,

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Speaker 1: pasted Will.

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Speaker 3: Yes, strong, You're good, strong.

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Speaker 1: Really good, because that's exactly the situation we like broke

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Speaker 1: things off in a pretty amicable sense, and then she

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Speaker 1: bumped into me. She was going for a walk with

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Speaker 1: She she was going for a walk with her mum.

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Speaker 1: I was going for a walk. They walked past me.

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Speaker 3: It was solo walking.

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Speaker 1: I was actually sitting at a cafe. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: classing me and a glass of nebiolo. Sun was setting,

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Speaker 1: I was doing some writing nice and she walked past me.

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Speaker 1: They both walked past me, and then we saw each

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Speaker 3: Past me and flipped you the bird and said, threw.

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Speaker 1: My wine, and she kind of like I hate this,

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Speaker 1: I just need to And this is you know, the

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Speaker 1: great debate over breaking up with people, like is it

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Speaker 1: harder to be the breakup or the breakup E, because

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Speaker 1: the breakup E you've got the default position of well,

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Speaker 1: you broke up with me, and then you can engage

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Speaker 1: in anger and then it's a lovely safe place to

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Speaker 1: I'm going to break up, probably I need to. I

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Speaker 1: need I need to. You need to feel like there's

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Speaker 2: And also you're in control of your own pain when

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Speaker 2: you're the breakup exactly. But when you break up with someone,

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Speaker 2: I think it's don't get me wrong. There are probably some

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Speaker 2: people who break up with people and go, I don't

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Speaker 2: there's no pain or sadness here. Yeah, I'm sure that exists,

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Speaker 2: But I think most of the time when you break

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Speaker 2: a breakup as well, but you also realize that you

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Speaker 2: are in complete control of taking that pain away from you,

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Speaker 2: so you can go, hang on a second, what have

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Speaker 2: I done?

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Speaker 3: I can? I can. Literally in that situation, you could

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Speaker 3: have said, you know what, You're exactly right, Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 3: you know what.

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Speaker 2: I Actually I've hidden it, but I've ordered four bottles

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Speaker 2: of Nebiola, which I was planning on tucking into by myself.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you, Why don't you come and join me?

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Speaker 2: You would be bring your mum, as I always say,

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Speaker 3: No, you wouldn't have said that.

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Speaker 1: But but there's whole thing's been employed to hook up

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Speaker 1: with your mother.

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Speaker 2: But but seriously, isn't it. I find that fascinating that

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Speaker 2: like you're you're in complete control of your pay and

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Speaker 2: you're in complete So I, even though you know it's

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Speaker 2: for the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what exactly? And I think, even though I know

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Speaker 1: and I really rate her as a person, and we

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Speaker 1: just would love the chance to just be friends there

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Speaker 2: But I feel like it is that hard to get

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Speaker 2: in touch with this But like I think, I appreciate

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Speaker 2: that she blocked you, but I just think that through

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Speaker 2: a pr person or something that kyle'sould happily.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that would be a text message that I

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Speaker 1: would send. It would just be to say, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't you don't even need to reply to this, just

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Speaker 1: that I reckon, you're awesome, and but again.

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Speaker 2: You make it word just making surely through that conversation

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Speaker 2: you realize that that is, don't write that message. But

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Speaker 2: funnily enough, I think it's okay to fantas was about

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Speaker 3: But I think which is the richest what the topic is, rightactly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But and I think I think there'd be people

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Speaker 2: if you're in that situation, that will's in there. Just

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Speaker 2: be careful before you write that message, and just think

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Speaker 2: are you trying to make yourself feel better or are

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Speaker 2: you trying to make the person you're sending it to

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Speaker 2: feel better? Because there is a wild where you could

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Speaker 2: actually make it worse for them.

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Speaker 1: Not every time, not everything every time, But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I think there is has been ten years anyway,

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Speaker 1: the time factor is an element there.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, that's no good. Sorry, ten years I think

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Speaker 2: You're right, because sure I don't think she's still like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think she's gone, that ship sailed. Yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: she's moved on, and I'm sure she's very happy.

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Speaker 3: You would be a shocking partner. I think bullet dodged.

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Speaker 2: No, joke, but yeah, no, I think she's Yeah, she

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Speaker 2: would be she'd be fine.

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Speaker 1: So where's your's your text messages?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So can we just hear a message from our sponsors?

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Speaker 1: Is it okay?

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Speaker 2: I'd actually love to. I was just thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from our sponsors. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant

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Speaker 2: by it now.

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Speaker 1: So hang on, Can I say, before you go into

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Speaker 1: your text message receiving zone here, maybe a wonderful thing

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Speaker 1: to come from this conversation would be to actually send

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Speaker 1: or receive one of these text messages that we're fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Would you actually send that message to insert person? I think,

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Speaker 2: for I know, I know who you're talking about. It's

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Speaker 2: not calling min Oak by the way, guys, it's Danny.

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Speaker 2: I know who it is, but for obvious reasons, we're

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Speaker 2: not saying yeah their name. Would would would you want to?

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Speaker 2: Because you are in control of run that message? Technically

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Speaker 2: you could use my phone. I don't think they've blocked me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we could, we could, we could.

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Speaker 3: Let's sleep on it.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's actually I've fully flipped on the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's been ten years.

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Speaker 3: I think if it's closer to the breakup.

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Speaker 2: I actually think you're making it worse for them, But

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Speaker 2: after ten years it actually might be nice for her

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Speaker 2: to receive that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, and.

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Speaker 3: Good for you.

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Speaker 1: But again I promony to have a think about like

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Speaker 1: this all comes down to intent. Why am I doing this?

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Speaker 1: Am I doing this to make her feel good? Or

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Speaker 1: am I doing this because I don't want to feel

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Speaker 1: like a dickhead? Which is I think past will was

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Speaker 1: really on the money there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: you kind of as an adult, you kind of have

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Speaker 1: to live with consequences, and you know, you chose to

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Speaker 1: do that, and you know the fact that somebody might

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Speaker 1: not like you shouldn't be a reason for you to

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Speaker 1: dig up a hornet's nest in their life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You might just to deal with it. They don't like you,

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Speaker 1: and that's okay. Anyway, I'll think about it. I've got

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Speaker 1: other messages, so there might be another one that I

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Speaker 1: fantasize about that we might think about sending.

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Speaker 2: Okay, on what's yours so receiving? I've got a sappy

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Speaker 2: one and I've got a more fun one. What do

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Speaker 1: Take me to the SAP.

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Speaker 3: SAP.

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Speaker 2: This is a message from my future daughter, and it's

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Speaker 2: just going to say, hey, dad, do you know what

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Speaker 2: I like about you? I like that you love me

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Speaker 2: unconditionally and I feel comfortable to tell you anything.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that would be nice, right wow, And that's a

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Speaker 1: You're cool.

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Speaker 1: If anyone's on a crosset when he's dying to be

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Speaker 1: and it is sending you aggressively in the other tree.

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Speaker 1: But she still say, oh, it's a fantasy that she sends.

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Speaker 3: And then one more.

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Speaker 2: This one's probably more likely than getting that text, to

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Speaker 1: There's another text received.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, as you know, I'm a humongous fan of

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Speaker 2: season one of White Lotus, and in particular a character

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I knew you'd go celebrity. I knew you'd

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Speaker 1: go Celebrities.

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Speaker 2: Played by an Australian actor called Murray Barler. Yep, okay,

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Speaker 2: now a little bit of background here, a little bit

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Speaker 2: and I messaged Murray and said, Murray, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know you personally, but I know good ideas,

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Speaker 2: armand I just I'd love to know how did this

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, well really, so you don't know whether there

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Speaker 3: I don't think did he read it?

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Speaker 1: Did it say red?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'll dig it up.

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Speaker 2: I can dig it up and check, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think he saw that and was like, brilliant. I'm calling

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Speaker 2: Mike White and I'm never going to write back to

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, who knows, But anyway, the fantasizing

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Speaker 2: textege to receive is from Murray Bartlett, and he's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Written, I haven't. He's going to go, Firstly, you're a

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Speaker 2: Secondly, I don't know you, but you come across like

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Speaker 2: gotta be quick about this.

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Speaker 3: I fully appreciate you've got a lot of radio commitments.

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Speaker 2: Open brackets, by the way, massive fan of the show,

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Speaker 2: we're filming the origin story for armand and we need

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Speaker 3: No, Armon's son.

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Speaker 2: I'm on son, yes, and that's you failed marriage and

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Speaker 2: it was the origin story is all about Armond struggling

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Speaker 1: You wrote the whole origin story to the message.

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Speaker 3: Too, No no, no no no. I've since written the script,

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Speaker 3: but I haven't sent that.

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Speaker 2: But so y do you like? Do you want the

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Speaker 2: you act, and I don't know if you can act.

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Speaker 2: But would you like to blame my son in the

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Speaker 3: Would light me up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Light me up?

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Speaker 1: Of course? You fantasize about that text message regularly?

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Speaker 3: Regularly?

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Speaker 1: Do you think we so?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure which one we want to pursue. I

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Speaker 2: think we could chase Murray definitely.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we should do another round of these?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're really in fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could keep going obviously.

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Speaker 3: It's usually called top and bottom.

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Speaker 2: But sure, Well, maybe that's a nice balance though, that

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Speaker 2: you keep you keep giving, I keep receiving.

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Speaker 4: Okay, straight boys, so hey, by the way, I just

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Speaker 1: I can actually send I can actually send these messages.

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Speaker 2: I think there are producers who could actually try and

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Speaker 2: get in touch with Murray Bartlett and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, but you can't make him send it to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we can do a little bit of coercion.

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Speaker 1: Blackmailing. I like it. I like it. Okay, Well, I'll

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Speaker 2: Also, I just think, like both of us love nibbling

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Speaker 2: DMS on Instagram. I think is the best way to

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Speaker 2: go about It's William on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: So we'll do another round of message that you fantasized

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Speaker 2: If the dog was alive, you probably wouldn't send him

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Speaker 2: an a live dog. That would be a fantasy. Are

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Speaker 3: You can't