WEBVTT - The key to happiness with Turia Pitt 🌞

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how have I managed to get on with

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<v Speaker 1>my life? How am I so?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you?

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<v Speaker 1>Given what I've been through? And I when I thought

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<v Speaker 1>about it myself, when I reflected on how I felt

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<v Speaker 1>about my life, I realized I was just as happy,

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<v Speaker 1>if not more happier, more happy than I was before

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<v Speaker 1>the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Then finally making hello and welcome back to the Rise

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<v Speaker 2>and Conquer Podcast. This is the podcast for my girl

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<v Speaker 2>gang who are ready to rise and conquer their biggest

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<v Speaker 2>dreams and live their most authentic life. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 2>Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur, and today, guys, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I've got a special one for you. Today

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined by one of the most inspiring women in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>Turia Pitt. Turia was caught in a grass fire while

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<v Speaker 2>competing in an ultra marathon in twenty eleven. She suffered

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<v Speaker 2>burns to sixty five percent of her body, but surviving

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<v Speaker 2>is the least of her achievements. She's one of Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>most admired and widely recognized people. Toria has gone on

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<v Speaker 2>to become a best selling author, a two time iron

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<v Speaker 2>Men and a mum of two. In today's chat, we

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<v Speaker 2>unpack Toria's most recent book, Happy, and Turia spills her

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<v Speaker 2>top tips to happiness. I absolutely loved this chat. Turria

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<v Speaker 2>is so inspiring, down to earth and she is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you love this one, rn C Gang, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Turia.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks so much for having me, Georgie. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>good to speak with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so excited. I was just telling Toria off

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<v Speaker 2>air that I just finished her book and it was

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<v Speaker 2>so enjoyable, so funny, so easy to resonate with, and

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<v Speaker 2>so many like gold nuggets of information, so that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really excited for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you, thank you. It was it was a

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<v Speaker 1>real I guess it was like a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to write the book, like enjoyable work, but still work

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<v Speaker 1>the same. So yeah, I really appreciate those comments Georgie.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. And yeah, I can imagine it being a

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<v Speaker 2>huge process. And we're going to get into the book

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<v Speaker 2>in just a minute. But before we do that, something

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm asking all my Season three guests is what

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<v Speaker 2>is something that you practice every single day as a

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<v Speaker 2>non negotiable that really helps you step into your best self?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I start off every morning, I make

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee and then I think of three things that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm genuinely grateful for, And I don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>big things, in fact, like the smaller all the better.

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<v Speaker 1>So this morning, I was grateful to my mom because

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<v Speaker 1>she helped out with the kids last night so my

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<v Speaker 1>partner and I could go out on a date night,

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<v Speaker 1>which was good. My partner made me in my cup

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee, so I was grateful to him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just watching my boys like playing on the carpet,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really I really enjoy the mornings with my family,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was grateful for that as well. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think when we start our day by focusing on what

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<v Speaker 1>we're grateful for as opposed to like what's not working

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<v Speaker 1>in our life and what isn't happening at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>If we start a day thinking about what we're grateful for,

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<v Speaker 1>let me focusing on the positives, and that really helps

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<v Speaker 1>us to build a healthier and a happier and a

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<v Speaker 1>more positive mindset. So I guess that would be like

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I do every day that helps me,

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<v Speaker 1>helps helps me to get ready for my day.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it and I couldn't agree more. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love that gratitude is a chapter in your book, which

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<v Speaker 2>we'll chat about soon. But can you give and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure everyone knows who are on this podcast, but could

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<v Speaker 2>you give the audience a snapshot of who you are

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<v Speaker 2>and what you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Sure, I mean like, it's weird when I get

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<v Speaker 1>asked that question. Yeah, because it's like, Okay, where do

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<v Speaker 1>I start. I was a mining engineer. I entered an

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<v Speaker 1>ultra marathon. I was trapped by a grass fire a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of the way through the race. I see burns

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty five percent of my body, spent two years

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of hospital, rebuilt my physical body, rebuilt

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<v Speaker 1>my life, did an iron Man event, did Iron Red

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<v Speaker 1>World Championships in Hawaii, had two kids along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've written four best selling books. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's a snapshot, a snapshot or an insight into who

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that is absolutely amazing and so inspirational. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm so excited to have you on this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and to get into your brand new book Happy.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you tell us a little bit about why

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<v Speaker 2>you chose to write about, you know, the concept of

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<v Speaker 2>being happy? And where that inspiration came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess. I mean I get emails and messages

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<v Speaker 1>and like dms on Instagram from people all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the questions and answers are things like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how have I managed to get on with

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<v Speaker 1>my life? How am I so happy given what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been through? And I when I thought about it myself,

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<v Speaker 1>when I reflected on how I felt about my life,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I was just as happy, if not more happier,

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<v Speaker 1>more happy than I was before the fire. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was really interesting that someone can go through

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<v Speaker 1>a catastrophic life changing experience and come out the other

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<v Speaker 1>side feeling really positive and happy. So I started doing

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<v Speaker 1>some research. I read a lot of interesting journal articles

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of interesting papers, and I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that there was a book in it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I started. I started from there, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I discovered in my research were things that

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<v Speaker 1>I already did, such as practice and gratitude. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, I think for at least five years now.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was other things I discovered, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of making you read in the morning that

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<v Speaker 1>has an impact on how you feel about your day

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<v Speaker 1>and how able you are to cope or handle with

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<v Speaker 1>whatever your day throws your way. And you know that

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<v Speaker 1>starts from just making your bed. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it I already knew, but a lot of it was

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<v Speaker 1>new information to me, which I found really interesting. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess that's why I put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the book, because I was really excited to share it

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely love that. And I was telling Tia off

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<v Speaker 2>air how much of delight reading the book was, and

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<v Speaker 2>it like reading the book and it's you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>you speak like you said, you speak about concepts that

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<v Speaker 2>I was already doing myself and I had known about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you do it in such an engaging and insightful way.

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<v Speaker 2>It really left an impact on me. And I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to start making my bed in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I guess, what I wanted to get across

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<v Speaker 1>in the book as well, was like, no one's perfect

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<v Speaker 1>at this stuff, you know what I mean? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the same. Some days I practiced gratitude. I sent my

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<v Speaker 1>day up properly. I I'm a really nice mom and

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice partner and a good friend and then

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<v Speaker 1>other days I wake up, I'm stressed, I'm tired, I'm cranky.

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<v Speaker 1>My babies kept me up, and I don't feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my best self. And then maybe on those days,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't make my bed, or I don't practice kindness

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<v Speaker 1>for someone else, or I don't make an effort with

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<v Speaker 1>my relationships. So I definitely, yeah, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give any of your listeners that you know that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do every single thing that I've that I've

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<v Speaker 1>got in the book to make themselves happier. Even just

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<v Speaker 1>doing one like practicing gratitude or even just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get in the habit of making your bed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll probably feel if they do those things, I'll feel

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better about themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. And that that is such a great

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<v Speaker 2>reminder of you know, even though you do have this

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<v Speaker 2>whole book full of concepts to make us happy, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like you're this perfect person. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's that's life. Life is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like no one's perfect, no one's perfect, but like, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that idea is Like it was a new concept

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<v Speaker 1>to me because when I was younger, I think when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like you know, eighteen or sixteen, I really

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought it was possible to be a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>person and to be good at everything and to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really well rounded it stuff. And now I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm just a bit older and wise of what

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<v Speaker 1>I've sort of realized that everyone is imperfect, Everyone has flaws. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stuffs up from time to time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think just when you recognize that and you accept that,

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<v Speaker 1>I found it makes me a lot happier being the

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<v Speaker 1>person that I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, and I often I talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>in the way of like we all have seasons, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we have seasons where you know, we might feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we're absolutely killing it at the gym and work, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we go through seasons and it's a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a shit show the whole time, and you've just got

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<v Speaker 2>to like learn and accept and grow from them.

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<v Speaker 1>So totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to Gratitude, So let me just read out

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<v Speaker 2>to the audience, because I absolutely love that. In the book,

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<v Speaker 2>you have all these different chapters. So the first chapter

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<v Speaker 2>is Gratitude, Morning, Routine, Zest, kindness, self talk, self love, love, money, purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>hard times, fun and goals. So you go through so

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<v Speaker 2>much in the book which I love, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to just touch on three of my favorite chapters because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, it's concepts that I've heard before, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm someone who practice, you know, gratitude every single morning too.

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<v Speaker 2>But for example, with the Gratitude chapter, you spoke about

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<v Speaker 2>this concept that is called savoring, and I was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit mind boggled, and I loved this, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>wondering if you can explain it to the audience and

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<v Speaker 2>explain how it contributes to your happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So savoring is like the act of stepping

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<v Speaker 1>outside the experience that you're in to I guess, to

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<v Speaker 1>review it and to appreciate it. And you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that, that means any experience positive old negative,

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<v Speaker 1>we can amplify it or we can diminish it, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how much we think about it. So, like to

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<v Speaker 1>put that in Layman's terms, like, imagine you're eating a

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate chip cookie and you're eating it really mindfully, and

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<v Speaker 1>you might be imagining, you know, or you might be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of the contrast between the dark chocolate chips and

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<v Speaker 1>the buttery cookie, or you know that when you get

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<v Speaker 1>into the shower after going to a gym class, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're really noticing the shower drops in your skin and

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<v Speaker 1>you're really relishing in it. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it is about being mindful and really appreciating

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<v Speaker 1>the moment that you're presently in. And I think most

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<v Speaker 1>of us aren't very good at savory, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>for myself, I'm not very good at either. And like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm assuming that you're probably a high achiever,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when you achieve something really awesome for yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to go call that's done, What's next.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we really need to be mindful of

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<v Speaker 1>our achievements and appreciate it and relish it and be

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<v Speaker 1>proud of ourselves as well. So I thought savory was

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<v Speaker 1>really called. It was one that i'd never really I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never really known about either until I started researching for

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<v Speaker 1>this book.

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<v Speaker 2>I And this is exactly why I loved it, because

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<v Speaker 2>I am I am a bit of a high achievment

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that I have goals and then I

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<v Speaker 2>achieved them and I'm like, Okay, what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>So totally, but like that's that's it's like a missing

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<v Speaker 1>part in our goal setting process, right, because we set

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<v Speaker 1>these goals and we go call that starn chick. That

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<v Speaker 1>off the list. I'm going to move on to the

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<v Speaker 1>next one. But when missing that step of savoring, of

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting on that massive achievement that we you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>we accomplished, being proud of ourselves, allowing ourselves to really

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<v Speaker 1>soak in it and relish it. Like you said, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so important.

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<v Speaker 2>And I even thought when I was reading the book too,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I need to celebrate the small moments.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot more than I totally totally. I think we all,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of us, could do that more. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's you know, one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in the book is you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>set up your day, you just think about what's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you could do in that day which would

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<v Speaker 1>make it a good day, and then you go and

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And that helps us to anticipate that that

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<v Speaker 1>positive experience of that positive event and look forward to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes us enjoy our days more. So. There's

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<v Speaker 1>lots of cool little things like that in the book

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But I think my favorite chapter was really

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<v Speaker 1>Are Hard Times? And I put that in the book

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<v Speaker 1>because I think part of being happy is accepting that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be happy all of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, some days we are naturally happy,

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<v Speaker 1>we are naturally motivated, we're excited, we might be enthusiastic,

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<v Speaker 1>and then other days we're not. We're stressed, we're tired,

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<v Speaker 1>we're cranky, we're annoyed. And I think all of those

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<v Speaker 1>emotions are really valid. They're very normal human emotion, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think when we just accept them and acknowledge them

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<v Speaker 1>and just trying to sit with them and we just

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<v Speaker 1>own them, I think the faster they dissipate as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's you know, we're not bullshitting to ourselves. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to push anything down and going no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're fine, everything's okay. We're just saying, yeah, this is shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm annoyed, I'm cranky, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. And I'm a new person to like

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<v Speaker 2>sitting with their feelings because I feel, like most humans,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate feeling, you know, uncomfortable. And I was reflecting

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<v Speaker 2>on that when I was reading that chapter two of

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yes, I just need to like sit

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<v Speaker 2>with the feeling and be okay with it and not

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<v Speaker 2>kind of push it down. So much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean when you try to push it down,

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<v Speaker 1>it just builds up and eventually comes out even worse.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think no one, no one likes feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>those uncomfortable feelings. No one loves feeling jealous or resentful,

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<v Speaker 1>or irritated or cranky. Of course, if we had our way, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd want to be feeling happy and energized and joyful

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<v Speaker 1>more often, but I don't think that's possible. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think just part of being alive and part of being

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<v Speaker 1>human is experiencing all of those emotions. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when we just try and sit with them, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we don't like it, the more we get used

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<v Speaker 1>to it. And for me, anyway, I notice that when

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<v Speaker 1>I accept and acknowledge how I'm feeling, the feeling tends

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<v Speaker 1>to dissipate way faster than if I try and bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>to myself and put up with a site and say no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all good, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. I love that, And I, like you said, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's huge of accepting the feeling too. Yeah it's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like shit today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah totally. And like if you can name

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling, that's great. But sometimes we just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it and we're not sure why, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>fine as well. That's also okay, Yeah, that's so fine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>let's get back into the episode. Well, let's chat also

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<v Speaker 2>about the self love chapter because I absolutely love this

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm reading an excerpt from the book where you said,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, if you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>tickets on yourself, you'll miss out on the show, your show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love this because often I question I get

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<v Speaker 2>on the Rise and Conquer Podcasts is from someone who

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<v Speaker 2>is either you know, they're trying something new or that

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<v Speaker 2>they're starting a business and they're worried what other people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to think or say. And so I love

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<v Speaker 2>that you just put this so blankly. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge thing in the book is you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>written beautifully, but there's a lot of tough love, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is so needed. I was wondering if you

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<v Speaker 2>can expand on this topic and chat about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, Like I think a really big part

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<v Speaker 1>of self love is being kinder to ourselves. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think women in particular, I don't think we're very

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<v Speaker 1>good at being really compassionate with ourselves. We're awesome at

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<v Speaker 1>being compassionate and kind with our kids and with our families,

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<v Speaker 1>and with our friends and with our partners, but when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to ourselves, we're often quite mean. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I always, I always recommend that people try and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves like how they would talk to their best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>because we wouldn't say really mean things to our best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's understanding that all of us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have feelings, we have life experiences. They may be painful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to be upset and I think feeling all

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<v Speaker 1>those feelings, it doesn't mean that we're weak or that

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<v Speaker 1>where you know that we're flawed. It just means we're human.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think all of us, all of us on

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<v Speaker 1>this planet, we are all flawed, We are all imperfect,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all fuck up really on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know when I talk about backing

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in the book, because backing yourself is another like

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<v Speaker 1>it's another concept that seems really far fetched. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've ever had this advice when someone's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just go for it, just back yourself, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but how like how do I actually do that? And

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<v Speaker 1>I compare that concept of backing yourself in the book

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<v Speaker 1>to being you know, just like a skill, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>public speaking or playing tennis or doing our makeup. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the more we do it, the more we practice it,

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<v Speaker 1>the more we evaluate our performance, I think the better

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<v Speaker 1>we get at it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's like it's like you know a muscle that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to strengthen and exercise and work. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just expect it to like sure, I am, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there's people who were born with more confidence than other people.

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<v Speaker 2>But one hundred percent, it's something you need to work

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<v Speaker 2>on and just just do it. As much as that

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<v Speaker 2>is scary, it's like for sure, and you'll get better at.

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<v Speaker 1>It, yeah, for sure. And like you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are scared of public speaking, that doesn't mean that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to present in front of a room full of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people. Maybe that means when you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>group dynamic, you can contribute something to the conversation. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just start. You don't have to go from

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<v Speaker 1>zero to this massive extent straight away. You can just

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<v Speaker 1>start small and do things really slowly and do things

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<v Speaker 1>in your own time and at your own pace as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, one hundred percent. And so another favorite chapter of

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<v Speaker 2>mine was Purpose, because I feel like there's almost this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation happening where it's like, you know, what's my life purpose?

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to do something with purpose, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>this whole or deal. And I love that in the book,

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<v Speaker 2>you acknowledge that everyone you know is going through different

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and finding different stuff they're interested in, and you

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<v Speaker 2>sort of explain like stop asking yourself, like what is

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<v Speaker 2>my purpose and what should I be doing with myself?

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<v Speaker 2>And then start asking yourself, like what are you interested in?

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<v Speaker 2>What should you try first? What do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>know more about? And what question do you want to answer?

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you, and you do. You do

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<v Speaker 2>explain this in the book, But with you, have you ever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, questioned your purpose or has this ever been,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a big question for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I definitely was when I was younger. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're at school and you've got all this

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on You're like what subjects will I choose? And

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<v Speaker 1>then what will my career be? And then where will

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<v Speaker 1>I go from there? So I think at school I

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<v Speaker 1>probably did put a lot of pressure on myself to

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<v Speaker 1>find my life purpose. Now, a couple of decades on,

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<v Speaker 1>I've really just taken the pressure off myself and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what I'm doing now is my life

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<v Speaker 1>purpose or however you want to say it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just think, well, you know what, I enjoy the work

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<v Speaker 1>I do right now. I'm interested in the work that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing right now. I love writing, I like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>exploring different research papers and speaking to experts and happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that and I really enjoy thinking about how

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<v Speaker 1>we can get happier and how we can get more confident.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I feel like, yeah, what I do now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I do for work, all of those questions are

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<v Speaker 1>answered and I feel really good about all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So for any of your listeners, if they're really struggling

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<v Speaker 1>with this telemra of you know, finding their life purpose

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<v Speaker 1>and only having one career and all of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>I just say, like, take the pressure off yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>stop asking yourself those questions and just ask yourself questions

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<v Speaker 1>like what am I into, what do I want to try?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I want to know more about? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you follow your interest and when you're curious,

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<v Speaker 1>I think where you end up is pretty meaningful.

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<v Speaker 2>M And also I love in that chapter you touched

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<v Speaker 2>on your work not having to be your life purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really resonated with this. In the respect of

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<v Speaker 2>my husband, he will like me, first, my you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I do with this podcast, and I own a

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<v Speaker 2>natural supplement company and stuff like, my work is definitely

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<v Speaker 2>my purpose and it's like I live, breathe, and die

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<v Speaker 2>for it. If that makes that way. My husband, He's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, look, I just want to go to work,

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<v Speaker 2>do my thing, and then I want to play golf

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekends, and you know, like he's so different,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I love that you can kind of have

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<v Speaker 2>both sides because I think sometimes we get really wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>up in this thing that you know, our work has

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<v Speaker 2>to be our life purpose, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, And like that's the thing I love. I love

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<v Speaker 1>my work, and often on a Saturday night, I will

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<v Speaker 1>consciously choose to pull out my laptop and like do

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<v Speaker 1>something with my Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they're saying, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>like do something in the business, or like w out

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<v Speaker 1>some more or create some more content. And I think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I am doing that out of choice on a

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night, that obviously means that I enjoy what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I want people to take the pressure of

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<v Speaker 1>themselves because sometimes our career or our job might not

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<v Speaker 1>be that meaningful for us, and I think that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also just take the money and run and

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<v Speaker 1>in your time outside of work, do things that you

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy it, that you find really meaningful. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's different ways that we can get purpose, or we

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<v Speaker 1>can we can find that or cultivate that that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reason for why we get up in the morning. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just yeah, but one point, well, one thing

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>is just like I think, all a job, no matter

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>what job, we have, all jobs and tell us some

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of shit sandwich that we have to eat. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think with whatever, with whatever we're doing, we we

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>need to reabit or we need to want to eat

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that hit sandwich that entails that job. Does that make sense?

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>So like if you want to be a vet nurse

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 1>but you don't like blood or needles, and maybe that

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>career choice might not be good for you. Or if

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, you want to be a really great

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>actor but you can't handle that idea of being rejected again,

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's not the best ship sandwich for you.

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Mm. And that's and that's like a great point of realizing.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm sure people look at you and

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>just go, oh my god, she must just have the

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 2>best job and the best life. But it's like in

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 2>any job, there's always aspects that you don't like doing.

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think it's important realizing that like no

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>one has the perfect job. It's just if you can

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 2>deal with those so great parts as well.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. I mean I am positive even Beyonce

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>has elements about her job and her life that she

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't love.

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, one hundred times. I'd love to know what they are.

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Though, Well, like I've seen on one of her documentaries,

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>she got like so sassy because I think some of

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the buttons on the costume won't write. So like those

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.479
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things obviously annoyed Beyonce.

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, first world problems, I'm sure, no, one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I would love to know what was your

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 2>favorite part about writing this book? And then what was

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>your least favorite part.

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm a bit of a nerd, so I created

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>myself a gaant chat with deadlines and kind of broke

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 1>down the book into different chapters and then worked out

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>how long each chapter would take to write and all

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>of those things. And once I've done all that, I

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously still had to do the writing part. So I love,

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I loved, I love the actual writing. But I guess

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>what I'm not good at is like making it all

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>makes sense and making it readable, Because there was large

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>parts of the book where I had, you know, all

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>these really great ideas and then no real common thread

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>between all of.

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Them interesting, so like putting it all together in a

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>seamless sort of.

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, whereas I just had like random really great

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>bits everywhere.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never thought about that. That is so interesting.

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so I work with a colleague in my team.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Grace, and she's really awesome at doing that,

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>at like finding the common thread of like making things

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>make sense. So she helped me massively in that way.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, large part of the credit

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of the book obviously has to go to her. But yeah,

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't well I'd write things, I'm like, yes, that

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, and she'd be like, no, Terrea, it doesn't.

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you it doesn't make sense. So that, yeah,

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>that was That was a really good relationship that I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm, I bet and I think I think also that

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I love that you touched on, you know, having help

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:18.719
<v Speaker 2>and this amazing, amazing reader and book coming from you know,

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>a team work and that sort of ethic because you know,

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>you can always behind the scenes look at things and

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 2>think it just comes together seamless.

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 1>So oh, mate, with this book, there was editor, there

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>was editors at Random House, there was a there was

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a proof reader that my editor made me rewrite the

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>book about, you know, ten times. There was a pr

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>team like that. It takes it really does take a

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>really I think to do, to do anything in anything

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>worthy in life.

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>One hundred and ten percent. And so the last thing

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to touch on before I let you go,

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>because I know you are a very busy human, and

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that is your goals chapter. And I loved this chapter

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:06.239
<v Speaker 2>because I am a very goal orientated person, a bit

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 2>of a goal freak, if you will. And I loved

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the way that you plan out your goals and you

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 2>really focus on the progress and that sort of side

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 2>of things. And I'd love for you to explain to

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the audience how you plan out goals and what that

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>process looks like.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, first to start with that, I don't

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>call them goals. I call them champion quests. And then

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I call them champions first short, and I realize, I

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>recognize that's really silly, But I also think you kind

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>of have to make this process fun and you have

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to make it as enjoyable for yourself as you can.

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people with their goals, they

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>might wonder whether the goal is right for them or

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>whether it will make them happier. And I guess we

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>don't actually never know whether pursuing a goal will be

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>happy with it or will be happy with the outcome

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>or whether we don't. And I use the example of

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the book. You know, if you want to become a

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>hart player, you might spend thousands of dollars and a heart,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you might get the less ends, you might practice every day,

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you might just realize one day that you

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>fucking hate the heart. So I think that's okay if

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you start on a champion quest, if you start on

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>your goal journey and then you realize halfway through that

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>actually the goal isn't for you and you don't enjoy

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>doing it, I think it is perfectly fine to recognize that,

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you had a crack, you don't actually

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like it, and it's fine to put it aside as well.

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>And I think that really sort of plays into what

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you were talking about when we were chatting about purpose.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's something like I say, like with you know

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing now, don't be worried if it is

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, the end goal and this big shiny thing,

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>just be like, be up for it and enjoy it

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and be interested in it.

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And like you know, I always I always

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>give this advice that people's goals are people's champions. You know,

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not something that we think we should do, you

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So like some people say, oh,

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I really should start running, because I don't know why,

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>because it you know, because all of the people I

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>know run. And I think if it doesn't resonate you,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't compell you, and if it doesn't motivate you,

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you're going to find it really hard to follow through.

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Then you're going to feel bad on yourself for not

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>committing to your goal. And I think that's really ridiculous

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>when you are chasing a goal that you didn't actually

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>really want in the first place. So I think just

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.239
<v Speaker 1>being honest with ourselves and ask ourselves, like, do we

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>actually want to do this? Are we actually willing to

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>eat the shit sandwich that this goal will entail?

0:32:56.240 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, this shit sandwich? It no, one hundred percent,

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And thank you for touching on that. So Touria, two

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>time Iron Woman, best selling author, Mum online program, so

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 2>much going on? What is next for you?

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I'm still the book has just come out,

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>so I'm still really savoring in that success or rashing relishing,

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in that feeling of achieving a really big goal of mine.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>But for next year in the business, we're going to

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>be doing a running program for mums, which I'm really

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>excited about. And I don't know twenty twenty. It's been

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a curve all year, hasn't it. But

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>for me personally, I've had another baby this year, I've

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time at my home on the

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>south coast of New South Wales. I've been really enjoying

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>time with my friends and family. So I think if

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>next year could be like somewhat similar to this year,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>except you know, less coronavirus and i'd really stuck with.

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>That, that would be ideal.

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be ideal.

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 2>No, that does sound amazing. And congratulations and just congratulations

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>about the book. Like I said, it is an absolute

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>epic read. I could not recommend it to my audience

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 2>enough enough. It was so enjoyable to read. And one

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>last question I have for you, and this is a

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>question I asked all my Season three guests at the end,

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>is and I'm looking for a bit of a pep

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>talk here. So if you are stepping out of your

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 2>comfort zone, you're doing something new and you want to

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 2>do it, but you are having those you know, those

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>feelings of doubt creeping in what is the pep talk

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 2>that you give yourself.

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess the pep talk that I would give

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>myself is I just say to myself, like, it doesn't

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>matter if you don't go out there and crush it.

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>All you have to do is just have a go

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>show up. Yeah, just show up, because you know what,

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>every single day that you just show up, over time,

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>you just get better with whatever it is that you're

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to do, whether you're wanting to learn and run again,

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>whether you're wanting to build your business up, whether you're

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>wanting to start your own podcast. You can't smash it

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the park every single day, you know, So

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>just say to your stuff, all I've got to do

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>every day is just show up, and then over time

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you will one hundred percent make progress.

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Consistency is key. Yes, yes, And so Charia, where

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>can the audience find you and get your the hands

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>on the amazing book?

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, they can get the book at any good bookstore.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And if they want to know a little bit more

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>about me, I write a weekly letter to I call

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 1>them my letter gang. To the people in my letter gang,

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>And so if they want to hear more tips from

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>me or read some more of my writing, go to

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>ter repit dot com, forward slash letter and they can

0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>join up to the gang there.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Ah, thank you so much for being on the Rise

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and Conquer Podcast.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>No worries, mate, Hope you have a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>You two bye, and that is it for today's episode.

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