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Speaker 1: Well, last week ben O'Shea gave nope resounding yep. I

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Speaker 1: think that might have been your highest at least equal

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Speaker 1: highest score, given four and a half stars.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Today you've got the new Emma Thompson movie, and I

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Speaker 1: just give Emma Thompson four stars for being and then

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Speaker 1: talk about the movie.

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Speaker 2: So good luck to you, Leo grand right, like I

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Speaker 2: would have thought it was Leo Grande grand on the end,

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Speaker 2: but that's how they say it in the film, right,

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Speaker 2: And so straight off the bat, I just want to say, like,

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Speaker 2: pencil in Emma Thompson for an Oscar nomination right now.

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Speaker 2: It's no surprise that she's phenomenal like she's always but

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Speaker 2: in this this is like one of the all time

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Speaker 2: great performances of her career. Really, I can't guarantee you

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Speaker 2: win the Oscar because there's going to be a bunch

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Speaker 2: of fine performances, but she will be nominated, and she's

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Speaker 2: already got two Oscars, so I wouldn't bet against her,

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Speaker 2: put it that way. And so she plays this fifty

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Speaker 2: five year old widow and retired religious instruction teacher named Nancy,

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Speaker 2: and so after the death of her husband, she kind

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Speaker 2: of has struggled to kind of get back out into

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Speaker 2: the world and her and she's kind of thought back

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Speaker 2: to the relationship with her husband, and it was a

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Speaker 2: pretty kind of tame relationship. There was lots of things

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Speaker 2: in her life that she didn't get to experience, have adventures,

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Speaker 2: especially in the boudoir. And so she thought, now that

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Speaker 2: I find myself single again and alone as I move

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Speaker 2: on to this next chapter of my life, like, I

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Speaker 2: want to have some of those experiences that I missed

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Speaker 2: out because I married my childhood sweetheart never been with

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Speaker 2: anybody else. So there was a bit of kind of

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Speaker 2: probably anxiety around the idea of dating again and all

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Speaker 2: modern especially these days with your tinders and your bumbles

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Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, bedroom fomot exactly. And so she thought,

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Speaker 2: what am we going to do about this? I know,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go down the richer gear and pretty

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Speaker 2: woman mode and hire myself a male prostitute, which is

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Speaker 2: the Leo Grand kind of guy. And so she hires

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Speaker 2: this Jigglow played by Peter Key Blind to start. Daryl

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Speaker 2: McCormack and Leo Rocks up at this hotel room at

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Speaker 2: the start of the movie, and he is much much

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Speaker 2: younger like he is, you know, maybe twenty two head

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Speaker 2: to her fifty five, Okay, And so you can initially

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Speaker 2: imagine that it's quite awkward, especially somebody who's.

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Speaker 1: The most awkward knock on the door ever.

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Speaker 2: You know, religious theory teacher as part of and she said,

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Speaker 2: and she says to him, like, I feel really weird

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Speaker 2: about this because I have literally set my student's assignments

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Speaker 2: where they had to write essays about how sex workers

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Speaker 2: are exploited and so. And then he's like, wow, that's

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Speaker 2: a that's a pretty sexy thing to start off, and

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Speaker 2: so and so they start talking and straight away they

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Speaker 2: realize that they maybe have more in common than they

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Speaker 2: initially thought. And she starts opening up to him because

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Speaker 2: you know, like I guess you've got some anonymity about

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Speaker 2: talking to a relative stranger. And so she starts talking about,

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Speaker 2: you know, some of the issues that she has with

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Speaker 2: her own kids, and she feels guilty about it, but

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Speaker 2: the same time says, you know, I think my son

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Speaker 2: is super boring, and I think my daughter is a

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Speaker 2: bit of a failure. And then he opens up about

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Speaker 2: some stuff about his own family and that you know,

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Speaker 2: his mum thinks he works on an oil rig, and

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Speaker 2: that's where he gets all the money from. And he's

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Speaker 2: googled you know what life is like on an oil

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Speaker 2: rig and sends her emails based on that and so.

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Speaker 2: But then but then he reminds her that exactly well, well,

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Speaker 2: then he reminds her that there's some drilling that needs

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Speaker 2: to be done in the hotel room, and that these

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Speaker 2: sessions are all about her and and sort of reawakening

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Speaker 2: this sort of sensuality that she always dreamed about. But

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Speaker 2: thinks that she hopes that she has. I guess and

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Speaker 2: but of course, you know, being the prim and proper

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Speaker 2: person that she is, like, she has a list that

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Speaker 2: she wants to work through. I want to try this,

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Speaker 2: and then we can try this, and then we can

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Speaker 2: try this. Do you think and do you think we

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Speaker 2: can get through all of this in the one hour

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Speaker 2: and so? And then the movie plays out over I

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Speaker 2: guess a couple of meetings, right, maybe maybe three or

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Speaker 2: so three or four meetings, and it's all set really

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Speaker 2: in this one hotel room. It doesn't really go anywhere

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Speaker 2: else in the film. So it's such a narrow scope

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Speaker 2: by direct AUSSI director Sophie Hyde, which makes it such

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Speaker 2: an interesting film, right. The problem with it is just

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Speaker 2: like in Pretty Woman that I mentioned before, So like

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Speaker 2: that is famous for painting a very unrealistic depiction of

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Speaker 2: sex work, of course, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 2: it's the Hollywood trope of the hooker with the Heart

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Speaker 2: of gold. It's not in any way based on the

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Speaker 2: reality of prostitution. But you know, Julia Roberts is amazing,

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Speaker 2: that's an iconic role. In the same way, this is

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Speaker 2: a maybe even a dangerously naive portrait of what male

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Speaker 2: sex workers are like. And so if there were, if

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Speaker 2: there were you know, sort of you know, fifty sixty

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Speaker 2: year old widows out there who were thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 2: after seeing this movie, I'm gonna go and hire myself

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Speaker 2: a sex worker. Like you'd almost guarantee they're not going

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Speaker 2: to have the same experience that Emma Thompson are in

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Speaker 2: this movie.

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Speaker 1: Like Leo Grant's not showing up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, Like, maybe maybe there is such a thing

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Speaker 2: as like a twenty two year old philosopher self help

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Speaker 2: gurus sweet Jiggilow, but there's probably not many of them, and.

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Speaker 1: They really are working on the oil.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so and so. But the Daryl McCormack

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Speaker 2: as Leo Grant is good, like he's got this laid

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Speaker 2: back Irish charm. He's fantastic in the role. But it's

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Speaker 2: really all about Emma Thompson, who gives this vanity free performance.

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Speaker 2: At one point there's full nudity, which is which is

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Speaker 2: you know, you want to say that it's brave, but

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Speaker 2: that kind of kind of plays into the reasons why

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Speaker 2: it is brave, which is that movies just don't condescending.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's an actress.

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Speaker 2: Movies just don't explore sexuality for people over fifty, and

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Speaker 2: so that's what makes this movie really quite special. It's

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Speaker 2: as much educational as entertainment. I think for people who

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Speaker 2: are outside of that age bracket. Everybody inside Emma Thompson's

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Speaker 2: age bracket will look at it and go, this is amazing,

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Speaker 2: Like this is speaking to me, ess resonating with me.

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Speaker 2: This is tackling a lot of stuff that do you

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Speaker 2: I deal with in my life that we don't see

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Speaker 2: on the big screen. So from that perspective, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But you know, again, the depiction of sex workers maybe

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Speaker 2: a bit if does it feel a bit like a

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Speaker 2: two person play, It's yeah, it's a two hander, like

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Speaker 2: there's only two people in it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love that. How many remains of the day

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Speaker 1: are you giving it?

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Speaker 2: Well, Emma Thompson deserves four stars on her own, but

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Speaker 2: because of those issues, I'm going to give it three

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Speaker 2: and a half. But it's a fantastic film. Go see

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Speaker 2: it three and a half to say, and leave it

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Speaker 2: to Thanks. Ben,