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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry.

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Speaker 1: Get a it's lolls here. This next guest is Sarah Diorio,

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Speaker 1: the creator of Organica Hair. Not just a hair salon,

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Speaker 1: it is a philosophy in a way of life, and

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Speaker 1: it's all about avoiding nasty chemicals. So Sarah shares how

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Speaker 1: she was living this really healthy life, healthy food, exercise,

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Speaker 1: looking after herself, then rocking into a hair salon and

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Speaker 1: being around all these toxic chemicals and she was like,

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Speaker 1: this isn't right. She literally threw the towel in, had

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Speaker 1: five grand in her bank, took out a lease and

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Speaker 1: set up the first Organica salon. So this girl's all

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Speaker 1: about chasing dreams. She talks about getting over people that

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Speaker 1: are copycats and managing her own self Greek or nature.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoy this wonderful story of an

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur that's just chased her own dream. Enjoy Sarah. All right,

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Speaker 1: So first of all, I'm going to jump straight into it.

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Speaker 1: So Sarah is the creator, owner, director of Organica Hair.

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Speaker 1: So I mean you should probably introduce what Organica Hair

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Speaker 1: is more than me. I know that I go there

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Speaker 1: every week, so I love it and I'm a huge

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Speaker 1: fan of like low tox and living yep. So in

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Speaker 1: a nutshell, what is Organica Hair.

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Speaker 2: Well, in a nuts it is it's low toxic. It's

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Speaker 2: more of a lifestyle type of hair salon so we

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Speaker 2: embody absolutely everything. So the whole experience from the minute

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Speaker 2: you walk in is about low toxic, organic and being sustainable.

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Speaker 1: You can with that compromise, but you can feel that

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Speaker 1: like you walk in, you have an organic tea, you

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Speaker 1: have a healthy little treaty, you know. But there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of I always noticed this in both our Wood

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Speaker 1: read a bit about you. And it started with like

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Speaker 1: three staff. Now you've got over twenty years that right,

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Speaker 1: that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Started with me and Lisa, and my sister was our apprentice.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah in the beginning, she's not a hairdresser, but

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Yeah, but what I love just

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Speaker 1: back onto that, like low tox kind of living is

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Speaker 1: you walk in and there's a lot of plants and

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Speaker 1: in your beautiful space that we are now in your home,

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Speaker 1: there's like you can feel there's a lot of natural light,

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Speaker 1: a lot of plants, and it feels very energetically quite healing,

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Speaker 1: like almost both organicas to me feel like a sanctuary

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Speaker 1: and on the surf, and you're a virgo and like me,

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Speaker 3: Texting each other yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It's like I need to know everything I care about you,

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Speaker 1: and I think we are perfectionists and we're almost like

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Speaker 1: i'd see virgos as like the duck. On the surface,

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Speaker 1: it looks really calm, but it's like your feet are underneath.

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Speaker 1: And so I guess I want to unpack how organica

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Speaker 1: came about because on the outside it looks like this

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Speaker 1: beautiful healing space like and almost an urban retreat, thank you,

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Speaker 1: And it feels like that you feel nourished every time

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Speaker 1: but I imagine it's taken a shitload of work to get

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Speaker 2: Yes, it has. It's taken a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah was it? Was there anything? Okay, So let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the start. So the start was.

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Speaker 3: So here we go. This is what I've researched.

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Speaker 1: You. You were twelve years old when you became a

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Speaker 1: At fourteen you started your apprenticeship. So is that you

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Speaker 1: dropped out of school school?

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Speaker 2: I don't have a year nine pass and I left

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Speaker 1: Did you were you scared then or you like.

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Speaker 2: I hated school? Schools not for me at all. I

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Speaker 1: So when you were like, no, I'm out of school,

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Speaker 1: So how do you go from Okay, obviously like going

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Speaker 2: Were you know, I'm a very low character, friends, family,

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Speaker 2: So it was a really hard decision to leave. But

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Speaker 2: I just pushed myself forward. So back then, many years ago,

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Speaker 2: So this is twenty five years back. So he was intense,

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Speaker 2: but I was just very passionate and I loved clients

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Speaker 2: really came from creating a space of healing and giving

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Speaker 2: And that's where my passion has always been.

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Speaker 1: So healing really pretty much because I've always found like

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Speaker 1: you're going to a therapist. I'm sure you've heard that before.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, it totally is.

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Speaker 1: But even sometimes I'm getting a blowave and you come

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Speaker 1: So I can understand that that was your favorite kind

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Speaker 1: how that's play an impact. So how did that go

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Speaker 1: when you made that decision to go, Okay, I've been

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Speaker 3: I've got to give it a try.

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Speaker 2: I think it was more a self journey for myself,

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Speaker 2: and being true to your full purpose. Sarah is internally

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Speaker 2: not what everyone thinks all that. So for me, I

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Speaker 2: grew up in an organic farm, so my worth ethic

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Speaker 2: came from working really hard because we grew up, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so my parents from here because you're Italian.

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Speaker 2: Italian both born in Italian. My mum migrated when she

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Speaker 2: couldn't speak a word of English back then. He would

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Speaker 2: So we would only be allowed to speak English at home.

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Speaker 3: Can you speak?

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Speaker 1: You speak Italian now? No?

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Speaker 3: I regret.

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Speaker 2: I wish my dad was forceful.

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Speaker 1: I'm really made.

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Speaker 2: I can understand it. But to translate back.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hah, because when I look at your insta,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my goodness, because you go back to

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Speaker 2: That's where I resonate.

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Speaker 3: Where are your parents from?

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Speaker 1: So nice and all these Because my boyfriend's Italian, so

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Speaker 2: It was so ingrained. So before and after school, I

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Speaker 2: God, chestnuts, carrots, strawberries.

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Speaker 2: strawberries and then the chestnuts. And my dad worked two jobs.

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Speaker 2: you then work ethic pretty definitely and to be resistant.

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Speaker 1: Really, do you think growing up in that like lower

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Speaker 2: I'm thankful for so much because yes, it was a

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Speaker 2: complete chalk and cheese like childhood, but I wouldn't swap it.

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Speaker 1: It's as much childhood like oh you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, private school boy.

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Speaker 2: I know he's Italian, private school boy, educated university, you know,

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Speaker 2: ticked all the boxes, a very good Italian boy, where

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Speaker 2: I'm like, colorful outside of every single box. Would never

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Speaker 2: I think that's where hairdressing played a really big part,

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Speaker 2: where I was always working with toxins and my dad

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Speaker 2: would always be like, it's going to kill you. It's

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Speaker 2: clients when they said, what was that penny moment when

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Speaker 2: you really wanted to be an organic or toxic free salon.

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Speaker 2: And I said, back in the day, I was an

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Speaker 2: apprentice and you would earn eighty five dollars a week

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Speaker 2: for forty five hour working week. And Cara Stars is

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Speaker 2: like the Prame. It's like the luxury band of hair care.

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Speaker 2: Took me weeks to save up for the big leaders

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Speaker 2: of shampoo. I remember my dad came in from the family,

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Speaker 2: had grease everywhere. When I had a shower, I came

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Speaker 2: into the kitchen, got the bin, got my kerostars. Is like,

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Speaker 2: this is going in the bin. The poison that you

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Speaker 2: were seeping into your system is not okay. I'm not

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Speaker 2: He goes, So if that got grease off, imagine what

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Speaker 2: it's doing to your skin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So now I want to get on to you.

436
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: We've talked about you, but one of your babies. So

437
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: there's a few other babies. I met Oscar when I

438
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: came in. So Oscar is a Sam Samoid Sam Lloyd,

439
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: so a big, fluffy, white, gorgeous thing. I met Roman,

440
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: So how old was Roman four? Wearing a very cool

441
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park top? So I quite like darkness.

442
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: He loves it. Go look at his room.

443
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: Amazing.

444
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: And then I met Cruise. Yes, twenty months. Yes, Oh

445
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: my goodness, you are a superwoman. Yeah yeah, yeah, crazy

446
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: pretty much. Okay, so back to you, like rewinding as

447
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: a child, so we know, high school dropout.

448
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: I hope you don't mind me saying that.

449
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: I say it all the time.

450
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: Didn't pass you nine?

451
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: Age fourteen started a hair printice and these are notes

452
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: that you sent me yesterday and then you wrote was

453
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: raised at Jehovah's Witness? Yes, how so take me? So

454
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: after aftersess me, I was like, I've got to be prepared.

455
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: I watched a whole documentary. I love it to virgos.

456
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: We're just so it. So we ran like, how did that?

457
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? So full completely raises Jehovah's witness. Did everything that

458
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: you do as a Jehovah's witness?

459
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: Can you take us through some of those traits as

460
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: just for a listener that might not know.

461
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: So no Christmas, no birthdays, no celebrations, no swearing, anti

462
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: blood transfusion, anti blood transfusions.

463
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: Yes, so it's better to die than get a blood.

464
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. And it's a very dedicated religion, so

465
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: you're not baptized in it. You have to choose. So

466
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the one good thing that you're

467
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: not baptized regardless, like, because it's such a commitment and

468
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: it's such a dedication, it truly is.

469
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: And do you have to do the time where you

470
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: are kind of like because that's.

471
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: The door I did that? Is that as a young girl.

472
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: No, it's just a constant thing all the time.

473
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And are you when you knock on a door?

474
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: Are you you're representing wow and trying to get more people?

475
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: So at what age did you decide that wasn't for you?

476
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: I think I probably really started maybe around the ten

477
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: twelve mark between those years sort of just it just

478
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: doesn't feel right. And I've always been quite a spiritual

479
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: sort of person in the sense of really feeling my

480
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: awareness surroundings and if it doesn't feel right, and it

481
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 2: was just I was pulling away from it, not to it,

482
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 2: and I was just questioning it and I would see

483
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: how people would react. So it's quite interesting, and I

484
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: think from a young age I really learned the human

485
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: character and how people can be really cruel or really

486
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: kind and all of these type of things. Living in

487
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: two different worlds, living in a world of being a

488
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: Trevor's witness and then living in a world where people

489
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: and people still get that reaction of oh my god,

490
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: Jay this or that door knocker, and you know, you

491
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: get it. And I think growing up in it, I

492
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: learned a lot and it has definitely helped me be

493
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: the person I am and my values and my morals.

494
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: I've taken some great things from it. But it never

495
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: sat well with me. It wasn't I'm not someone that

496
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: likes to be dictated on how to live my life.

497
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean I'm a bad person or anything like that.

498
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: It just didn't sit right at all. So the resistance

499
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: from your parents doing being the naughty, being rebellious, doing

500
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: everything that you shouldn't be doing, and just honestly fighting

501
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: a battle from the young age of my parents' society.

502
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: Holding that as a secret, I never wanted anyone to know.

503
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: I was raised as Jehovah's witness. Yeah, fem just fear

504
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: of judgment because I witnessed it. I saw it with

505
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: my mum's family. How family judged them because they're still

506
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: practicing Jehovah's witnesses. How friends family judge and a cruel

507
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, but that's their choice. It's your choice to

508
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: be Catholic, Muslim, or whatever it is. I could never

509
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: understand how people could be cruel for someone's choice. They're

510
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: not doing anything bad to anyone, They're good people. And

511
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: that's where my battle of how the human race can

512
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: be so cruel. So I would hide it because I

513
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: hated that reaction of the mean judgment straightway.

514
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: So when that ten to twelve, when you told your

515
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: parents say this is not for me, what was their response, Well, what.

516
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: Do you mean it's not for you? Of course it's

517
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: for you. So I get that's failure right then, And

518
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: they're like failing your parents, And I think when you

519
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: came to me you told me it's about failure, I

520
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: had a really big think about it. I'm like, you

521
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: know what, what my biggest failure was? I failed myself.

522
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: I failed myself in being true to who I am

523
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: and allowing everyone else to affect me. Then to stand

524
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: up and be like, yeah, you know, I failed that

525
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: young girl of letting her lose her voice. Does that

526
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: make her sense? Yeah?

527
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: Definitely?

528
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: But would you say that then standing up and going, actually,

529
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel right? You then found that, yeah, that's voice.

530
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: So when your parents are like, what do you mean

531
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: like you, this is your religion. How did you find

532
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: your voice and how did you stand up?

533
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: It took a long time, a lot of awful fights,

534
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: a lot of resistance, a lot of moving out of home,

535
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: doing it all the you know, yeah.

536
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Rebellious when you moved out of home.

537
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: I moved back and forth. I moved with my sister

538
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: for a little bit. But I've probably moved out around

539
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 2: the age of seventeen, pretty young. Pretty well.

540
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, so okay, so when you saw I

541
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: did also see in this documentary that if you then go, okay,

542
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: well this is no longer for me, you're literally treated

543
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: like you do not exist anything.

544
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: That's if you're baptized, okay, So you went back to

545
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: wasn't baptized? Okay, okay, so there's a big difference. If

546
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: you've chosen to be.

547
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: Baptized, then that's a life commitment.

548
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 2: It's a life commitment where that you're reprimanded. But I

549
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: never wanted to be baptized. It just never sat with

550
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: me that okay.

551
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, So eventually your parents are like, okay, we're not

552
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: going to win this battle.

553
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: Well that's it.

554
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: Did you get any not?

555
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Still try?

556
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes really, I'm like Mum, don't go there.

557
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: Did you get any resistance with your like coming from

558
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: an Italian family, and I've learned this is from my boyfriend.

559
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of expectation with finishing.

560
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: School, definitely, you know, but I think with my parents,

561
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: my dad being migrating and didn't really go to school,

562
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: didn't have an educated and lived in real poverty. Yeah,

563
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: it was okay, but they did say, if you want

564
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: to leave school, you have to get the job interviews,

565
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: you have to make the phone calls. We will take you.

566
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: So back then you would have to you know, get

567
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: the paper. Yeah you got old hair, son of the

568
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: age and look for the AD. I had to call.

569
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: I had to make the appointments. It wasn't to mom

570
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: and dad like. I had to do it all. And

571
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: they said, if you do it and you proved to

572
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: us this is what you want, then.

573
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: We support That's pretty cool.

574
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: That's pretty like supportive in a very empowering although it

575
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: might not feel like at the time.

576
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: Manner.

577
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: I just spoke interviewed someone this morning and he's got

578
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: three kids and they're all like around that. The eldest

579
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: is about sixteen, and he said, I don't believe in

580
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: pulling rocks out of the way for my kids on

581
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: their journey.

582
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: He's like, and I.

583
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, like, I remember those rocks in my

584
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: teen years and thinking why can't my.

585
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: Parents just help me out?

586
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just another fifty bucks or whatever it is, And

587
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: they're like, it's not going to happen a lot, That's right,

588
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: And I think.

589
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, your parents probably did a really good way, in a.

590
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Really smart way. They kept the rocks there for you.

591
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: So you learned and became stronger definitely, which I love. Okay,

592
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: so that part of you are let go, let go

593
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: of without two like it sounds like there was a

594
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: bit of back and forth, but eventually you're allowed to

595
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: like find you've always sound on your own your feet. Now,

596
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: would you say your religion is more of a like.

597
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: Spiritual definitely and it always has been.

598
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

599
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: I think to me, it's interesting how you said you

600
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: don't respond to kind of like that that kind of

601
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: like being told and controlled and all of that. To me,

602
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: spirituality should be freedom anyway exactly. So it feels like

603
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: the opposite right, and a lot of religions.

604
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 3: Are obviously the opposite of freedom.

605
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: But interesting, Okay, So talk me through this autoimmune.

606
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 3: I didn't know this about you.

607
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So from a young age, I've always battled being sick.

608
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: And as I said, I grew up quite holistic, so

609
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: you never really did modern medicine. My mum always took

610
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: me to natch bats used to give me the beach

611
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: whiches and I used to throw it behind the trees

612
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: because straight out of the garden. So always lived very

613
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: healthy and clean and understood the right things about the

614
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: foods and nutrition and everything. And it wasn't until I

615
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: got really sick and I worked crazy hours and I

616
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: ended up having a whole heap of test and they

617
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: found they had blood clots in my legs. So obviously

618
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: that land you in hospital and stuff like that. I

619
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: think it was like nineteen oh wow, not on the

620
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: pill didn't fly, so it was really odd to have

621
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: all these blood clots in my legs, and with the

622
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: extensive testing and everything, that's when they found out had lupus.

623
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: So it's I mean, when your body attacks itself basically.

624
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: Is that what Selena Gomez has Sorry to say that,

625
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. Yeah, I think Selena Gomins does.

626
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: I think I could be wrong, Lemon, she's got immune

627
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: so when you just said hoping, mamass is when I

628
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: came in, you were like, I've been sick?

629
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: Is this what you're referring to?

630
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: No, so I've had pneumonia.

631
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So so would you say is that?

632
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: Would you say that's more exhaustion cause and stress caused?

633
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: Definitely?

634
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: How long is it taken to get over that?

635
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not over it yet and here she's doing the

636
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: potty little legend. It's probably been about three months.

637
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, far out.

638
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: So with back to auto immune, sorry to jump around

639
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: with sicknesses right now, back to with autoimmune. So from

640
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: diagnosis to today, obviously living with an autoimmune condition, have

641
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: you found that you've kind of found the magic cocktail

642
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: of looking after yourself?

643
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: Definitely? Definitely. I'm not someone that likes to take medicines

644
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: as a band aid. Yeah. I'm sort of a strong,

645
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: wiled person, so mine sort of affects my joints and

646
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: everything like that. So I'm sort of a worrier in

647
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: that sense, and that's my downfall that I overpushed myself.

648
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: But like steroids and all that type of medicines not

649
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: for me. I found an amazing homeopathic Samuel up in Mornington,

650
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: who has been my saving grace. Like I've seen so

651
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: many nutch paths and everything you name it, but he

652
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: literally has got my loopis to a really good level.

653
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: And I've lived with it for twenty five years. So

654
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: I know my body. I know when it's creeping its

655
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: ugly head. I know when I'm about to have a

656
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: really bad fall.

657
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Can you describe the symptoms of when it's bad?

658
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: Exhaustion joints and I get joint pain. Joint pain like

659
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: you would have believed, my knees swell, and it's just

660
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: this weird feeling in your body. I can't explain it.

661
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: It's just this odd feeling. And it can start up

662
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: in my back as well.

663
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: Oh what so like an inflammation kind of.

664
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you feel like there's something inside your body moving.

665
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's that's my personally.

666
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: No, And if you've described it very well, anything that's

667
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: autoimmune is literally the body's immune system attacking itself thinking

668
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: that it's a baddie.

669
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: That's right.

670
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: So it's a really tricky one. And when you said autoimmune,

671
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think loopis.

672
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

673
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: I thought you might have said, like, oh, sometimes my

674
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: thyroid goes finding that actually common in women, and you're tiny,

675
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: so I thought, okay, maybe it's there's something with their thought,

676
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: but nothing like so fascinating. So when you feel those

677
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: symptoms kind of raise their ugly hedge so to speak,

678
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: what's your like boom? What do you do straight away?

679
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

680
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 3: Homeopath?

681
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.

682
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: And the interesting thing about homeopathy is the theory is

683
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: like cures, like so they will often.

684
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 3: Give you I'm sure.

685
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: You know how this works, but like they will give

686
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: you a little bit of something that actually would exacerbate

687
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: what you're feeling if you had to have it in

688
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: a big amount that they give you like a micro

689
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: amount of.

690
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: It's very very fascinating.

691
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: It is, really is.

692
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: And some people believe that, some people don't. But it

693
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: works for me.

694
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah totally.

695
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: And do you have do you notice when you let

696
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: your lifestyle because you're.

697
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: A very healthy completely And I was going to say,

698
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: like food plays a big part with me, Like if

699
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 2: I allow a lot of sugar to come in, that

700
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: works so much against me. And I've been doing it

701
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: for years, probably for about good maybe seven six years

702
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: of really understanding food, the sugars, the sugars in fruit,

703
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: all of it. Like even like your healthy stuff that yeah,

704
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: you think is a great thing. No, And this year, obviously,

705
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: I know I let my guard down with my eating

706
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: and that has caused it hasn't helped.

707
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: And it's good that you've said that though, because I

708
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: think people listening to myself included like, yes, we know

709
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: that sugar is the devil. Like let's call a spat

710
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: a spade here. We know that eating healthy is the

711
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: answer to a lot of things.

712
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: But it's friggin hard.

713
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: It is hard to have the selfiest one to go

714
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: no thanks that glass of wine, or which is a

715
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: sugar or no thanks to that little chocolate dessert, like

716
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: even the healthy stuff, you know, even there we some

717
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: days and I'll go and get a blow wave and

718
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: you've got the best chocolates for I tasted.

719
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: The new ones.

720
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness good. But sometimes I'll be like inhale,

721
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: it so not mine fleet all. And other times we

722
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: be like I'm sticking to the skin radiance tea today,

723
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: guys don't give me anything else. So you you know,

724
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I think health is definitely the answer. But man, oh man,

725
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: it takes discipline. It takes a certain type of will

726
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: power that some days you've got it and some days

727
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: you don't, and I think something that I'm going through

728
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: a journey of learning at the moment. The days that

729
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: I've got it is where my self worth is clear.

730
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, I'm on this cleanse because I want

731
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: to feel good or I want to do it for me.

732
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: It's not for Jobo, not for all these other things.

733
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: But it's a funny thing. And as a nutritionist, I

734
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: noticed that like eating healthy is less of a physical

735
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: game and more of a mental game.

736
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: That's right.

737
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: And I think as well, you being a Virgo, and

738
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get into this because I believe that

739
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: one of your aspects would be I'm presuming this isn't

740
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: me on knowing you, This is me knowing that you're

741
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: codes aal astrology. You would be highly critical of yourself definitely.

742
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: So where what in your life? What areas are you

743
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: the hardest on yourself? With motherhood being the perfect mum.

744
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: Being like, yeah, really being conscious twenty four to seven,

745
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: and it's hard. It's really hard to be conscious with

746
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: two kids. I think that is the first. And then

747
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: myself my self care is terrible and I know I

748
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: need to look after myself first. So then you can

749
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: be better at everything else, so I'd be definitely critical

750
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: with that and my food.

751
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: So do you get any guilt with food?

752
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I feel like you're so good and balance.

753
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: No, you know what I probably don't and what I

754
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: generally do. Monday to Friday, I extremely well, and then

755
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: on the weekend, it's my weekend to have fun. Like

756
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: I'm not going to deny myself, like if we're going

757
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: out with friends, we do not. I'm going to eat

758
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: the good stuff. I'm gonna have my wind, I'm gonna

759
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: have my dessert because it's okay and last meant to

760
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: be enjoyed. And I always when I go to Italy.

761
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: We go to Italy all the time. The thing that

762
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: I love is the enjoyment that comes with food and

763
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: family and friends and just living in that moment and

764
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: not being harm in yourself to have that Gelardi I

765
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: mean Italy, I have like three July is a day,

766
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: you know.

767
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: I remember you said to me once when I first

768
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: started my Italian boyfriend. You were like, where's his parents from?

769
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, pool, yeah, and you were

770
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: like oh, and then you took me straight down this

771
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: like food adventure that you'd beat on or there's something

772
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: that you love or these little things, or you dips

773
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: it and at Christmas time you're like, you're going to

774
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: put something in my coffee.

775
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: Dips something in my coffee.

776
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was the PANATONIONI there

777
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: you go, and like, it's so beautiful to see that

778
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: relationship with food versus like a diet or someone that

779
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: is like, which is me? By the way, I'm pointing

780
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: at myself as I say that, because you've found the

781
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: joy and it sparks massive joy within you.

782
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: I love it. This is why I have got this

783
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: big kitchen table that we're sitting at because I.

784
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: Love crystals in the middle of food.

785
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: I love to entertain. I love that. That's that's the

786
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: joy totally.

787
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So, knowing that you're highly critical, knowing that you're

788
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: a little go getter, knowing that you probably don't have

789
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: an off swing, no, I'm trying to find it. Yeah, well,

790
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean the leader got all the crystals and beautifulness.

791
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: That's why I must have them around.

792
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: Let's fast forward like five ten years.

793
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: What's the dream?

794
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: Six months here? Six months in Italy? Oh yeah, that's

795
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: what I'm working towards. Never have a winter.

796
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: Yep, oh you preaching to the choir there. Melbourne winters

797
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: are is my goal.

798
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 3: I want a farm house.

799
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: I just want to live off the farm the Mediterranean.

800
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: And organic selling over there as well. Yeah.

801
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: No, I actually would have a beautiful retreat. I've always

802
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: I've got this idea to create this magical retreat somethink

803
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: a bit different that hasn't really been done. Well, I

804
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: don't know it might be done, but yeah, I just

805
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: love to make people feel good.

806
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I can totally see you doing that.

807
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: We need more retreats too, I don't know there's enough retreats, definitely,

808
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of retreats are so luxurious

809
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: that they.

810
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: Are unattainable for people as well.

811
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: Like there's a few that I love going to, but

812
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: I go as an influencer and I'm like, there is

813
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: no way I would spend that kind of money, you know,

814
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: two grand a night on my safe isn't it for

815
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: a health retreat? Yet it's the most beautiful thing I've

816
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: ever done for myself. So then we need more retreats.

817
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm very pro this dream of yours.

818
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you can get on bod.

819
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: Counting yeah, man, count me in.

820
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: So for anybody that's listening, and because yes, this podcast

821
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: is about failing, but it's also about chasing dreams. Let's

822
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: be honest, what would your advice be to people that

823
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: have got this dream? They're a bit scared, they're not sure.

824
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: Yes, do it.

825
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Don't doubt yourself and be your own che leader. And

826
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: if you really believe it, it's going to work. And

827
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: if it doesn't, then so be it.

828
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Do it.

829
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: Learn does it take hard work?

830
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: It does take hard to work. It texts, dedication, and

831
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: I think my biggest thing is you've got to be

832
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: your values have to be in line with what you're

833
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: doing and be true and your team, well your team,

834
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: you're always going to get people that are on and

835
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: off on the team. But as long as you stay

836
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: true to yourself, your dream, your reason why, and I

837
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: think that's the big thing, is why you're doing it

838
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: and really letting that passion come through, then there's no

839
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: reason why it wouldn't succeed.

840
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: And when you just said that about the why, like

841
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: when I go into organica, I'm pretty sure why you've

842
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: created is to create this beautiful healing space that is

843
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: so nourishing in not just on a physical level image.

844
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: Imagine transferring that why to a retreat in Italy.

845
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: That's all right?

846
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my goodness, really yes, it's incredible.

847
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, You've been such a wonderful guest. I think

848
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. People just hear like, yes, it takes

849
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: hard work, but be your own cheerleader.

850
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: You have to be it's and can.

851
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: Can we be honest in Australia Not always the case,

852
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: Like we have tool Poppy here, so we kind of

853
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: like and I learned this in acting school last week.

854
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: Aussie's will be in a meeting in America and they'll

855
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: be like Americans would be like, oh, you've got these

856
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: amazing salons and you're like, oh yeah, no, like like

857
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: we talk ourselves down, and because Americans take you so literally,

858
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: they're like really, yeah, okay, you know, like I think

859
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: we need to reignite that.

860
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: Be your own cheerleader vibe.

861
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and stick to your lane.

862
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah you said that right before we went on. You

863
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: were like, just got to stay in your lane. Ye,

864
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: stay in your lane.

865
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: And don't worry about anyone else, don't worry about what

866
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: anyone else is doing. Just focus on you.

867
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: And go for it, yeah, and stay in the lane.

868
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm seeing like a swimmer staying in the lane, but

869
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: being your own cheerleader at the end.

870
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: I love it.

871
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Sarah. You are beautiful, You are wonderful.

872
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: It has been such an honor. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're doing a little PS edition here. As

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Speaker 1: we've finished, we were sipping on our tea blueberries Hereah's like,

877
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I forgot to say how organic I

878
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: even came about it's she started sharing the story and

879
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: I was like, stop, I'm pulling the mics out, so

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00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: go for.

881
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: It, all right. Well, funny story obviously, as you all know,

882
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: I was working at the One Someone for twelve years,

883
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 2: and you get to a point where you can stick

884
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: of work or you stick and complaining to yourself. And

885
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: I was living in Albood one day and I was

886
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: just complaining about absolutely everything about working and life. And

887
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: then we walked past the salon that I got asked

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00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: to buy about a year ago, and I said yes.

889
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: And then the girl that was working at the salon

890
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: she wanted to buy the salon, and I was like, well, no,

891
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: respect the space she works there. Let her have it

892
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: because I'm a big believer of what it's meant to

893
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: be will be. So I just continued on working. And

894
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: then a year later, I was walking down the street

895
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: with my sister and I'm like, oh, this celle it's

896
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Speaker 2: not opened anymore because there was so many leaves and

897
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: letters on the floor of myst this is like nah.

898
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, this celle's not opened anyway. Later that evening,

899
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Speaker 2: I spoke to my dear friend in London who I

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00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: trained and has landed the dream job like working with

901
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: bug named Cam, like the dream job back in the day.

902
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: And he rang me and said, I've got a job

903
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: for you. Do you want to come over to London.

904
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: Everything's paid for, You'll be set up, You'll be doing

905
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: these type of celebrities. And I'm like, oh my goodness,

906
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: all right, let me think about it. So I went home.

907
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: I stuck. I don't know, do we go to London

908
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: for a bit? Do I do this? I don't really

909
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: love London. I tried it when I was eighteen years

910
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: to try and live there. Hated it. And then the

911
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: next day my sister rings and she's like, there's a

912
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: lease sign up. So I said, all right, I'm taking it.

913
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Speaker 2: I rang my work. I went into work. I rang

914
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: my best friend at the time, Lisa, who was at

915
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: my business part at the beginning. I said, I'm quitting today.

916
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: I told everyone I'm quitting. Like, what do you mean

917
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: you're quitting. I'm like, I'm quitting. I went into work

918
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: and I quit. I rang the agency and I'm going

919
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: to sign the lease. I said, I'm sick of being

920
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: in a toxic environment. I'm going to create an organic salon.

921
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to create a sustainable selling And it's like,

922
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: you're mad, You're going to like shoot yourself in the

923
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: foot at the peak of your industry. And I went

924
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: into the agents, signed the lease and that's it. We

925
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: started it with like five thousand dollars, so we had

926
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Speaker 2: and we painted the floors and did it all. But

927
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Speaker 2: that was the birth. I had a vision. I knew

928
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Speaker 2: what I wanted to do. I knew I want to

929
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Speaker 2: create a space of toxic, free, low chemicals, sustainable, you know,

930
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Speaker 2: organic wherever possible, and to create this amazing space for

931
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Speaker 2: my clients and myself. And yeah, that's sort of how

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Speaker 2: it came about.

933
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: So you were just saying as well, before like organic,

934
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: I became your purpose. Yeah, because you were so sick

935
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: of the mind chatter, like the negative.

936
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Like I was sick of hearing my own voice about

937
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: being negative. And I'm like, God, sir, are the only

938
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Speaker 2: person that can do anything about this is you shut up?

939
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: Like and I thought to myself, if I'm sick of

940
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: hearing myself complain, imagine what all my friends, my family,

941
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: they must have been like over me ages ago, because

942
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: I was just how old was I? Twenty four?

943
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Wow? So you'd saved up all your money to get

944
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: the lease?

945
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well no, but that's all we had. Me and Lisa,

946
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: my best friend. I rang her, I'm like, are you in?

947
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: Are you gonna do it with me? She's like what

948
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: I said, I've just signed a lease. This is what

949
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. It's there. I'm gonna my ideas even

950
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: though everyone's like, you're mad, what are you doing? You're

951
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: shooting yourself in the foot. Like in terms of like

952
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: career wise in my industry, I was like at the

953
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: peak and I could have gone even higher, but I'm like, no,

954
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: I need to do what's right for me. And I'm

955
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: sick of living a double life, like a controversy life. Like,

956
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: I live my life one way and my values are

957
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: very strong with being holistic and organically that and I'm

958
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: like my work is polar opposite, Like I live two

959
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: different lives and it's not okay and I'm sick of it.

960
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: So I'm the one that can make that change.

961
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: So all you need is a dream, a purpose and

962
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: five K in the bank.

963
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.

964
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

965
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 2: And a good team and hustle.

966
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard work.

967
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: I love it.

968
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: So we've learned so much from me. Now I'm glad

969
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: we did the PS. Now we can add hustle cheerleaders,

970
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: stay in your lane. Yeah, and don't be afraid of

971
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: a paintbrush.

972
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you start?

973
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: Yes, that we did all our hours.

974
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: Were you working crazy hours?

975
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: When at first crazy hours?

976
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 2: Yep?

977
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: Because you would have been one of that. You would

978
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Speaker 3: have been you and Lisa.

979
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: I mean and Lisa and my sister who's not a

980
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: hairdresser at all. She doesn't mean shampoo though, so she

981
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: came in.

982
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: And when we're busy, amazing.

983
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: Our front desk was my old office desk that my

984
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: mum and dad used to have that was like thirty

985
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: years old. That was our receptionist desk and we just

986
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 2: got really good wallpaper and you know we worked with what.

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00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: Amaze Ah so good. So there you go.

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00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Go out chase the dream, make sure it's in line

989
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: with your values and your purpose, and then just work

990
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: your little butt off.

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00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: Yep, I love it.

992
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks for the ps. That's a wrap on

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Speaker 1: another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, thank you to

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Speaker 1: our guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm

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00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: at Yamo Lollaberry. This potty my word for podcast is

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Speaker 1: available on all streaming platforms. I'd love it if you

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Speaker 1: could subscribe, rate and comment and of course spread the

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