WEBVTT - Will anything change for Australians with disabilities?

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily

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<v Speaker 1>oas Oh now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>the first of August.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm zara, I'm harry. The government has handed down its

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<v Speaker 1>long awaited response to the Disability Royal Commission, an inquiry

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<v Speaker 1>that lasted four and a half years and heard from

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<v Speaker 1>more than ten thousand people who spoke of their experiences

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<v Speaker 1>of abuse and neglect. The inquiry suggested ways the government

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<v Speaker 1>could change laws and policies to improve the lives of

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<v Speaker 1>people with disabilities after hearing it had failed to uphold

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<v Speaker 1>their human rights in some instances. Today we'll take you

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<v Speaker 1>through some of the changes that have been accepted and

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, what's been put on the back burner. But first, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's making headlines?

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<v Speaker 2>Un Your inflation data rose by three point eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>in the twelve months to June, up from three point

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<v Speaker 2>six percent in May. This means prices arising at a

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<v Speaker 2>faster rate than before. The data from the Australian Bureau

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<v Speaker 2>Statistics found increases in the price of alcohol, tobacco, healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>and housing all contributed to higher rates of inflation. Treasurer

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Chalmers said the figures show that inflation is both

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<v Speaker 2>sticky and stubborn, while Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor blamed high

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<v Speaker 2>costs on the government's handling of the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctors a warning of arise in STIs across Australia, urging

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<v Speaker 1>people to get tested. The Royal College of Pathologists AUSTRALASIAS

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<v Speaker 1>says there's been an increase in syphilis, gonerrhea and HIV

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<v Speaker 1>over recent years. While testing rates have flatlined, data shows

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<v Speaker 1>are nearly twenty percent jump in gonorrhea cases between twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and twenty twenty three. A spokesperson for RCPA,

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<v Speaker 1>Associate Professor Caitlin Keighley, said the organization is concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>many people being at risk unknowingly and is urging regular

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<v Speaker 1>testing to stop a further spread of STIs.

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<v Speaker 2>First Nations artifacts will be returned to Queensland from Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>A deal was struck with the Museum of Vancouver to

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<v Speaker 2>send hundreds of historic items, including ancestral remains and sacred objects,

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<v Speaker 2>back to Queensland Museum. The state government said the artifacts

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<v Speaker 2>will then be returned to First Nations communities, Aboriginal and

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<v Speaker 2>Torres Strait Islander Partnerships Minister Leanne Enoch described it as

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<v Speaker 2>a crucial step on the truth telling, healing and reconciliation

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<v Speaker 2>journey of Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>And in today's good News, Supernetball organizers have confirmed three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty two thousand fans have shown up to

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<v Speaker 1>games so far this season, a twenty five percent jump

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<v Speaker 1>compared to last year. It tops out the previous record

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<v Speaker 1>of attendance at a women's sporting season set by the

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<v Speaker 1>A League's women's soccer season of TWI twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty four. The Grand Final is set for

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<v Speaker 1>Suncourt Stadium this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Harry, I remember there was this extremely long inquiry

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<v Speaker 2>into the experiences of people with disabilities and we heard

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<v Speaker 2>some really harrowing stories. There was a lot of media

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<v Speaker 2>interests all about this Royal Commission. Can you just give

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<v Speaker 2>me I guess a bit of a high level rundown

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<v Speaker 2>about that Royal Commission.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I begin. I think it's just worth noting that

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't give it full justice in a single podcast episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It lasted four and a half years. The Royal Commission

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<v Speaker 1>traveled right around the country and heard from approximately ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people with disabilities. So that's around ten thousand stories

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<v Speaker 1>that were heard during this time and it was set

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<v Speaker 1>up in twenty nineteen and it took about four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years before it could hand down its final

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<v Speaker 1>report COVID nineteen obviously disrupt things a little bit when

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<v Speaker 1>it came around in twenty twenty, but ultimately it took

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<v Speaker 1>so long because there was just so much evidence to

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<v Speaker 1>sift through and there were so many people telling their

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<v Speaker 1>stories of violence, abuse, neglect and exploitation. And it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>noting that the powers of the Royal Commission itself are

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<v Speaker 1>quite significant, so it is the highest form of inquiry

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<v Speaker 1>that you can possibly have in Australia, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>the powers to request information, to call on witnesses and

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<v Speaker 1>to consult with experts. So it does take time, and

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<v Speaker 1>time it did take.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we got this Disability Royal Commission. It was

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<v Speaker 2>really long, but it had these really rich stories of

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<v Speaker 2>the experiences of people with disability. What did it tell us?

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<v Speaker 2>What did it find?

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<v Speaker 1>The top line out of this inquiry was that people

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<v Speaker 1>with disability suffered higher rates of violence, neglect and abuse

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<v Speaker 1>than the rest of the population of Australia. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was in the form of exclusion and discrimination in sectors

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<v Speaker 1>like housing, employment and education. And there was also some

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<v Speaker 1>quite shocking evidence of physical and sexual abuse, so much

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<v Speaker 1>so that the final report accused multiple levels of government

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<v Speaker 1>of failing to meet its international obligations to protect people

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<v Speaker 1>with disability from human rights abuses.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are some really serious claims, but there were

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<v Speaker 2>you know, highlighting what was wrong. But then this Royal

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<v Speaker 2>Commission also took it one step further and it had

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of recommendations about what needed to change.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and that was the essence of the final Report,

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<v Speaker 1>and it came through with two hundred and twenty two recommendations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not exactly a light read, but that's because it

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<v Speaker 1>does speak to the complexity of some of the issues

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<v Speaker 1>that we heard during the Royal Commission and also the

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<v Speaker 1>depth of the inquiry itself. So some of the recommendations

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<v Speaker 1>focused on just making sure that government policy and legislation

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<v Speaker 1>factor in the rights of people with disabilities, noting that

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<v Speaker 1>it had fallen by the wayside before and so for example,

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<v Speaker 1>it said the government has a role to play in

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that people with disabilities have more choice when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to housing, so they shouldn't just be offered

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in what's known as a group home with

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<v Speaker 1>other people with disabilities. And I'll come back to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was a pretty key recommendation and the response

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<v Speaker 1>was significant from the government on that one, but also

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<v Speaker 1>on the point of housing, the recommendation said that people

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<v Speaker 1>with disabilities need to be considered when the government's developing

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<v Speaker 1>something like a homelessness strategy, because right now, crisis accommodation

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<v Speaker 1>for people fleeing domestic violence is not fully accessible in

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<v Speaker 1>some circumstances, so they might not have adequate handrails, or

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<v Speaker 1>might not have the bathroom facilities that someone with disability

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<v Speaker 1>might need. And so the recommendation said that this all

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<v Speaker 1>needs to come into the government's thinking when it's starting

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<v Speaker 1>to develop those plans.

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<v Speaker 2>And so all of those recommendations, all two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two of them, were handed down to the government

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<v Speaker 2>in September last year. What has the response from the

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<v Speaker 2>government been to those recommendations.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the government initially promised to respond earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It has faced a bit of questioning, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of criticism for taking so long to respond, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>more than ten months later and we got the official

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<v Speaker 1>response from the government yesterday, and so the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>broke down the recommendations into two main categories, so those

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<v Speaker 1>that fell within its powers and responsibilities and those that

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<v Speaker 1>fell under the scope of the States and territories. The

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<v Speaker 1>government said one hundred and seventy two out of two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty two recommendations were in its patch and

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<v Speaker 1>it accepted thirteen of them and quote accepted in principle

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventeen others in quotations.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>So basically is the government's way of saying, in quotations,

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<v Speaker 1>we like this idea, we intend to follow through with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just need to figure out how we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's the principle stuff, and we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that a bit later, but can we just first go

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<v Speaker 2>over what the government very clearly did accept, what they

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<v Speaker 2>said they would act on immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>The main thing it'd agreed to do was reform Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>disability strategy. That's the Keynote policy when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the way in which the government wants to improve inclusion

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<v Speaker 1>for people with disabilities right across Australia. It also agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to boost the number of Osland interpreters for people who

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<v Speaker 1>might have difficulty with hearing. And it also wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see better training for people wanting to become interpreters so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can help out in more complex environments, so

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<v Speaker 1>think in a hospital or in a court appearance, people

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<v Speaker 1>who struggle to hear might need a bit more of

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<v Speaker 1>an explainer or in tone when it comes to that

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<v Speaker 1>really technical language. And another recommendation that the government accepted

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<v Speaker 1>was to publish data on the prescription of antidepressants and

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<v Speaker 1>mood stabilizer medications to people with disabilities because the Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Commission did hear that these kind of drugs were being

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<v Speaker 1>overprescribed for people with cognitive disabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really interesting. And so those are just a

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<v Speaker 2>few of the recommendations that the government did accept. What

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<v Speaker 2>about the ones that you mentioned earlier, those ones that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of didn't make it through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that leaves about forty two suggestions that will

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<v Speaker 1>be under further consideration or that the government has quote noted,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it won't take further action. So the main recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>that won't change is what's known as and I quote

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<v Speaker 1>here segregated settings in housing, schools and workplaces. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>when we're thinking of specialists schools or group homes for

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<v Speaker 1>people with disas abilities. And before I get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>I come back to that term segregated because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to note that some of the commissioners did

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<v Speaker 1>take issue with using that word, and that's when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about spaces specifically designed four people with disabilities outside

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<v Speaker 1>the so called mainstream. So when the final report was

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<v Speaker 1>handed down, the commissioners were kind of split here. Three

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<v Speaker 1>were in favor and four were against a proposal to

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<v Speaker 1>scrap what some of them called specialist and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them called segregated education for students with disabilities. So some

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<v Speaker 1>of them had argued that these kind of specialist schools

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<v Speaker 1>promote separation and legitimize devaluing of people with disabilities in

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<v Speaker 1>society and from a young age as well. So those

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<v Speaker 1>who were defending these schools were also saying it's a

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<v Speaker 1>way to help those people who might have more complex needs.

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<v Speaker 2>And where did the government fall on.

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<v Speaker 1>That They didn't agree to scrap it. They said that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a place for some of these schools in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said that it's important for quote providing choice

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<v Speaker 1>for students with disabilities and their families. There was also

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of discussion about group homes and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioners wanted them phased out within fifteen years. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave a very specific timeline on this, but the government

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<v Speaker 1>didn't accept that. It agreed that there needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>some reform to the way that group homes are functioning

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. So the government in its response said

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<v Speaker 1>that there needs to be more opportunities for people with

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<v Speaker 1>disabilities living in these homes to socialize and to participate

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<v Speaker 1>in the community outside the home itself, getting them out

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<v Speaker 1>and doing more activities, but also making sure that these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of homes don't end up feeling like segregated spaces

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<v Speaker 1>from the rest of society. And just finally, another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that the government hasn't quite committed to yet, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a big feature of the Royal Commission's final report, was

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<v Speaker 1>creating a Disability Rights Act, and that was to quote

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<v Speaker 1>recognize the human rights of people with disabilities. Instead, the

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<v Speaker 1>government spooked its own record on passing laws to improve

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<v Speaker 1>the rights of people with disabilities. So that's like making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that those who aren't covered under the National Disability

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<v Speaker 1>Insurance Scheme can get more support and funding for the

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<v Speaker 1>services that they might need.

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<v Speaker 2>We've spent a lot of this podcast talking about the government,

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<v Speaker 2>how the government's thought about it, how the government's responded,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's of course because when a Royal Commission is

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<v Speaker 2>handed down, it is the role of the government to respond, adopt, reject,

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever they like with those recommendations. However, this is

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<v Speaker 2>an issue that goes beyond just the current government of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. What's the reaction been like so far to

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<v Speaker 2>how the government has responded to the Royal Commission?

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<v Speaker 1>So the Shadow Social Services Minister Michael Suka said that

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<v Speaker 1>the Coalition's going to be looking very closely at the

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<v Speaker 1>government's response. As I mentioned, it's quite detailed and it

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<v Speaker 1>does cut across state and territory politics as well as

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<v Speaker 1>federal politics. Looking at the Greens's response, their disability rights

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<v Speaker 1>spokesperson Jordan steel John, who is the first Senator to

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<v Speaker 1>use a wheelchair, thinks the government could have gone further.

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<v Speaker 1>He described the response as quote lackluster, and said that

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<v Speaker 1>the government's not really following through what he believes is

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<v Speaker 1>an adequate level of action because he said that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a desire for the government to

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<v Speaker 1>balance the budget, so that means it's trying to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on spending as well as responding adequately to this Royal commission.

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<v Speaker 2>Always a fine balance to try and get right and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly one that people will be looking at the government

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<v Speaker 2>to see what happens from here and how those recommendations

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<v Speaker 2>that they have accepted are implemented. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda

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<v Speaker 1>Bungelung Kalkotin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily odz acknowledges

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<v Speaker 1>that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the

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<v Speaker 1>Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres

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<v Speaker 1>Strain island and nations. We pay our respects to the

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<v Speaker 1>first peoples of these countries, both past and present.