1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: oas Oh now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday, 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: the first of August. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm zara, I'm harry. The government has handed down its 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: long awaited response to the Disability Royal Commission, an inquiry 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: that lasted four and a half years and heard from 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: more than ten thousand people who spoke of their experiences 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: of abuse and neglect. The inquiry suggested ways the government 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: could change laws and policies to improve the lives of 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: people with disabilities after hearing it had failed to uphold 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: their human rights in some instances. Today we'll take you 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: through some of the changes that have been accepted and 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: more importantly, what's been put on the back burner. But first, Sarah, 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: what's making headlines? 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: Un Your inflation data rose by three point eight percent 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: in the twelve months to June, up from three point 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: six percent in May. This means prices arising at a 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: faster rate than before. The data from the Australian Bureau 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: Statistics found increases in the price of alcohol, tobacco, healthcare 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: and housing all contributed to higher rates of inflation. Treasurer 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers said the figures show that inflation is both 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: sticky and stubborn, while Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor blamed high 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: costs on the government's handling of the economy. 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Doctors a warning of arise in STIs across Australia, urging 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: people to get tested. The Royal College of Pathologists AUSTRALASIAS 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: says there's been an increase in syphilis, gonerrhea and HIV 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: over recent years. While testing rates have flatlined, data shows 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: are nearly twenty percent jump in gonorrhea cases between twenty 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty three. A spokesperson for RCPA, 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Associate Professor Caitlin Keighley, said the organization is concerned about 32 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: many people being at risk unknowingly and is urging regular 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: testing to stop a further spread of STIs. 34 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: First Nations artifacts will be returned to Queensland from Canada. 35 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: A deal was struck with the Museum of Vancouver to 36 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: send hundreds of historic items, including ancestral remains and sacred objects, 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: back to Queensland Museum. The state government said the artifacts 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: will then be returned to First Nations communities, Aboriginal and 39 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Torres Strait Islander Partnerships Minister Leanne Enoch described it as 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: a crucial step on the truth telling, healing and reconciliation 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: journey of Queensland. 42 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: And in today's good News, Supernetball organizers have confirmed three 43 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two thousand fans have shown up to 44 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: games so far this season, a twenty five percent jump 45 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: compared to last year. It tops out the previous record 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: of attendance at a women's sporting season set by the 47 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: A League's women's soccer season of TWI twenty twenty three 48 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four. The Grand Final is set for 49 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Suncourt Stadium this weekend. 50 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: So, Harry, I remember there was this extremely long inquiry 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: into the experiences of people with disabilities and we heard 52 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: some really harrowing stories. There was a lot of media 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: interests all about this Royal Commission. Can you just give 54 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: me I guess a bit of a high level rundown 55 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: about that Royal Commission. 56 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Before I begin. I think it's just worth noting that 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't give it full justice in a single podcast episode. 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: It lasted four and a half years. The Royal Commission 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: traveled right around the country and heard from approximately ten 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: thousand people with disabilities. So that's around ten thousand stories 61 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: that were heard during this time and it was set 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: up in twenty nineteen and it took about four and 63 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: a half years before it could hand down its final 64 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: report COVID nineteen obviously disrupt things a little bit when 65 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: it came around in twenty twenty, but ultimately it took 66 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: so long because there was just so much evidence to 67 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: sift through and there were so many people telling their 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: stories of violence, abuse, neglect and exploitation. And it's worth 69 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: noting that the powers of the Royal Commission itself are 70 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: quite significant, so it is the highest form of inquiry 71 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: that you can possibly have in Australia, and it has 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: the powers to request information, to call on witnesses and 73 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: to consult with experts. So it does take time, and 74 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: time it did take. 75 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: But then we got this Disability Royal Commission. It was 76 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: really long, but it had these really rich stories of 77 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: the experiences of people with disability. What did it tell us? 78 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: What did it find? 79 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: The top line out of this inquiry was that people 80 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: with disability suffered higher rates of violence, neglect and abuse 81 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: than the rest of the population of Australia. And this 82 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: was in the form of exclusion and discrimination in sectors 83 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: like housing, employment and education. And there was also some 84 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: quite shocking evidence of physical and sexual abuse, so much 85 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: so that the final report accused multiple levels of government 86 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 1: of failing to meet its international obligations to protect people 87 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: with disability from human rights abuses. 88 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: And those are some really serious claims, but there were 89 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: you know, highlighting what was wrong. But then this Royal 90 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: Commission also took it one step further and it had 91 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: a bunch of recommendations about what needed to change. 92 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: That's right, and that was the essence of the final Report, 93 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: and it came through with two hundred and twenty two recommendations. 94 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: It's not exactly a light read, but that's because it 95 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: does speak to the complexity of some of the issues 96 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: that we heard during the Royal Commission and also the 97 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: depth of the inquiry itself. So some of the recommendations 98 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: focused on just making sure that government policy and legislation 99 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: factor in the rights of people with disabilities, noting that 100 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: it had fallen by the wayside before and so for example, 101 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: it said the government has a role to play in 102 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: making sure that people with disabilities have more choice when 103 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: it comes to housing, so they shouldn't just be offered 104 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: to stay in what's known as a group home with 105 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: other people with disabilities. And I'll come back to that point, 106 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: because that was a pretty key recommendation and the response 107 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: was significant from the government on that one, but also 108 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: on the point of housing, the recommendation said that people 109 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: with disabilities need to be considered when the government's developing 110 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: something like a homelessness strategy, because right now, crisis accommodation 111 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: for people fleeing domestic violence is not fully accessible in 112 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: some circumstances, so they might not have adequate handrails, or 113 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: might not have the bathroom facilities that someone with disability 114 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: might need. And so the recommendation said that this all 115 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: needs to come into the government's thinking when it's starting 116 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: to develop those plans. 117 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: And so all of those recommendations, all two hundred and 118 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: twenty two of them, were handed down to the government 119 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: in September last year. What has the response from the 120 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: government been to those recommendations. 121 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: Well, the government initially promised to respond earlier this year. 122 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: It has faced a bit of questioning, a little bit 123 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: of criticism for taking so long to respond, but it's 124 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: more than ten months later and we got the official 125 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: response from the government yesterday, and so the federal government 126 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: broke down the recommendations into two main categories, so those 127 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: that fell within its powers and responsibilities and those that 128 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: fell under the scope of the States and territories. The 129 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: government said one hundred and seventy two out of two 130 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two recommendations were in its patch and 131 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: it accepted thirteen of them and quote accepted in principle 132 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen others in quotations. 133 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 134 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: So basically is the government's way of saying, in quotations, 135 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: we like this idea, we intend to follow through with it, 136 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: but we just need to figure out how we'll do it. 137 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's the principle stuff, and we'll get to 138 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: that a bit later, but can we just first go 139 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: over what the government very clearly did accept, what they 140 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: said they would act on immediately. 141 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: The main thing it'd agreed to do was reform Australia's 142 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: disability strategy. That's the Keynote policy when it comes to 143 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: the way in which the government wants to improve inclusion 144 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: for people with disabilities right across Australia. It also agreed 145 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: to boost the number of Osland interpreters for people who 146 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: might have difficulty with hearing. And it also wants to 147 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: see better training for people wanting to become interpreters so 148 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: that they can help out in more complex environments, so 149 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: think in a hospital or in a court appearance, people 150 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: who struggle to hear might need a bit more of 151 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: an explainer or in tone when it comes to that 152 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: really technical language. And another recommendation that the government accepted 153 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: was to publish data on the prescription of antidepressants and 154 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: mood stabilizer medications to people with disabilities because the Royal 155 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: Commission did hear that these kind of drugs were being 156 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: overprescribed for people with cognitive disabilities. 157 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: It's really really interesting. And so those are just a 158 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: few of the recommendations that the government did accept. What 159 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: about the ones that you mentioned earlier, those ones that 160 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: kind of didn't make it through. 161 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that leaves about forty two suggestions that will 162 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: be under further consideration or that the government has quote noted, 163 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: meaning it won't take further action. So the main recommendation 164 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: that won't change is what's known as and I quote 165 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: here segregated settings in housing, schools and workplaces. So that's 166 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: when we're thinking of specialists schools or group homes for 167 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: people with disas abilities. And before I get into it, 168 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: I come back to that term segregated because I think 169 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: it's important to note that some of the commissioners did 170 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: take issue with using that word, and that's when we're 171 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: talking about spaces specifically designed four people with disabilities outside 172 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: the so called mainstream. So when the final report was 173 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: handed down, the commissioners were kind of split here. Three 174 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: were in favor and four were against a proposal to 175 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: scrap what some of them called specialist and some of 176 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: them called segregated education for students with disabilities. So some 177 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: of them had argued that these kind of specialist schools 178 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: promote separation and legitimize devaluing of people with disabilities in 179 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: society and from a young age as well. So those 180 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: who were defending these schools were also saying it's a 181 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: way to help those people who might have more complex needs. 182 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: And where did the government fall on. 183 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: That They didn't agree to scrap it. They said that 184 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: there is a place for some of these schools in Australia, 185 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: and they said that it's important for quote providing choice 186 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: for students with disabilities and their families. There was also 187 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: a bit of discussion about group homes and some of 188 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: the commissioners wanted them phased out within fifteen years. They 189 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: gave a very specific timeline on this, but the government 190 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't accept that. It agreed that there needs to be 191 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: some reform to the way that group homes are functioning 192 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: at the moment. So the government in its response said 193 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: that there needs to be more opportunities for people with 194 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: disabilities living in these homes to socialize and to participate 195 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: in the community outside the home itself, getting them out 196 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: and doing more activities, but also making sure that these 197 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: kind of homes don't end up feeling like segregated spaces 198 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: from the rest of society. And just finally, another thing 199 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: that the government hasn't quite committed to yet, which was 200 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: a big feature of the Royal Commission's final report, was 201 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: creating a Disability Rights Act, and that was to quote 202 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: recognize the human rights of people with disabilities. Instead, the 203 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: government spooked its own record on passing laws to improve 204 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: the rights of people with disabilities. So that's like making 205 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: sure that those who aren't covered under the National Disability 206 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: Insurance Scheme can get more support and funding for the 207 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: services that they might need. 208 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: We've spent a lot of this podcast talking about the government, 209 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: how the government's thought about it, how the government's responded, 210 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: and that's of course because when a Royal Commission is 211 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: handed down, it is the role of the government to respond, adopt, reject, 212 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: do whatever they like with those recommendations. However, this is 213 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: an issue that goes beyond just the current government of 214 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: the day. What's the reaction been like so far to 215 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: how the government has responded to the Royal Commission? 216 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: So the Shadow Social Services Minister Michael Suka said that 217 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: the Coalition's going to be looking very closely at the 218 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: government's response. As I mentioned, it's quite detailed and it 219 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: does cut across state and territory politics as well as 220 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: federal politics. Looking at the Greens's response, their disability rights 221 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: spokesperson Jordan steel John, who is the first Senator to 222 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: use a wheelchair, thinks the government could have gone further. 223 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: He described the response as quote lackluster, and said that 224 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: the government's not really following through what he believes is 225 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: an adequate level of action because he said that there 226 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: was a bit of a desire for the government to 227 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: balance the budget, so that means it's trying to focus 228 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: on spending as well as responding adequately to this Royal commission. 229 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: Always a fine balance to try and get right and 230 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: certainly one that people will be looking at the government 231 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: to see what happens from here and how those recommendations 232 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: that they have accepted are implemented. Thank you so much 233 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: for joining the Daly Ods today. If you learned something 234 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: from today's episode, feel free to send it to a friend. 235 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: It's the way more people get to listen to the 236 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: Daily Ods and we so appreciate any support you can 237 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: give us. We'll be back again tomorrow, but until then, 238 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: have a wonderful day. 239 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda 240 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Bungelung Kalkotin woman from Gadighl country. 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