1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. My name is Chloe Dalton. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm an Olympic gold medalist in rugby sevens and because 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: I have commitment issues, I've played two other sports at 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: professional level. The last two seasons, I've played for Carlton 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: in the AFLW and prior to that, played for the 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Sydney Uniflames in the Women's National Basketball League. I'm currently 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: training full time with the Australian rugby sevens team in 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: preparation for the now Tokyo twenty twenty one Olympics. One 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: of my favorite things to do is to head down 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: to the beach, grab a coffee and the paper, look 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: to the back page and. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: Read about sport. 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: I've had enough of only reading stories about men's sport, 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: so I decided to do something about it. One day, 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: female athletes will be recognized by their achievements, not by 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: their gender. Until then, I'm going to chat to and 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: share the stories of Epicozzi female athletes. I'm really excited 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: to announce a new partnership with Workplace Law. The team 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: at Workplace Law got in touch when they heard about 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: the work we're doing at the Female Athlete Project, as 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: they're big believers in supporting women in sport and providing 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: opportunities for female athletes during this podcast with a small 23 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: production team off my own bat, I just want to 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: thank Workplace Law for coming on board and supporting this project. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: I look forward to sharing more about what they do. 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: My guest today is Olympic silver medalist Commonwealth Games gold 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: medalist Australian diver Melissa Wu. Mel competed at her first 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: comm Games at just thirteen years old and is looking 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: to compete at her fourth Olympics in Tokyo. Mel shares 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: some great insights into how she has learned from challenges 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: such as injury to help her prepare for success under pressure. 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy it. Melissa Wu, Welcome to the podcast. 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me now. 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Over the last two years, I was down in Melbourne 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: playing AFOW and I got a call from my rugby 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: seven's coach where I was previously, and he put the 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: offering for me to come back and join the squad 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: and go to the Tokyo Olympics. And I had a 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: big decision to make and a big part of that 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: draw card was the fact that I might get to 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: become a dual Olympian and go to my second Olympics 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: in Tokyo. You are hoping to go to your fourth 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: Olympics in Tokyo twenty twenty. That's pretty astounding and puts 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: you amongst the ranks of athletes like Animeirs and Lauren Jackson, 45 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: who were some of the most successful Australian athletes of 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: all time. What does that feel like for you to 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: have the chance, hopefully now in Tokyo in twenty twenty one, 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: to go to your fourth Olympics for diving. 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it would be pretty cool to go to 50 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: a fourth Olympics. I think I am lucky that diving 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: is a sport where you can start a lot younger 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: as well, So it's definitely a sport where you start 53 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: off kind of almost better and then you get like 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: you're not as good as you get older, but you 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: build consistency and experience so kind of levels out. So yeah, 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: to be able to still be in the sport at 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: this kind of stage after so long is really amazing, 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: especially because I do platform diving, which is a bit 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: more of a hard impact on your body, so I 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: do have a fair bit of like a few injuries 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: and I'm kind of carrying. But yeah, to be at 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: this point and to be able to, you know, possibly 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: compete at Tokyo, it's pretty cool and I think it 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: would be pretty amazing Olympics to do as well. 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: And you were thirteen years old when you first competed 66 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: at the Commonwealth Games. Yeah, how old were you when 67 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: you first started diving? 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: I was I think I was about ten years old. Yeah, 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: So most divers they come from like acrobatic kind of backgrounds. 70 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: I didn't so much. 71 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 4: Like I really enjoyed gymnastics, which I did a little 72 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: bit of when I was younger. But my oldest sister 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: was a swimmer and we were pretty sporty family, so 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: everyone kind of did a bit of everything and my 75 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: parents were like running us around like crazy. So I 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: didn't do like elite gymnastics. 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: Or anything like that. 78 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: But definitely had a little bit of that acrobatic background 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: before I started diving, which helped as well. 80 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: And what was it that you what kind of drew 81 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: you into diving? 82 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: Initially? 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: I just loved like flipping around the house and stuff, 84 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: so I loved like when I did gymnastics, I loved it, 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: which I just didn't do, like, you know, I didn't 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: get very far in it, just because of all our 87 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: family commitments. But yeah, used to just teach myself stuff 88 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: around the house and just set up like a bunch 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: of mattresses and cushions and just gradually like take one 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: away until I like didn't have anything there and would 91 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: just kind of throw myself around and climb up walls 92 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: and things like that. So I was just always drawn 93 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 4: to that kind of thing. And Red, my oldest sister, 94 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: used to race at Olympic Park. I used to always 95 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 4: like wander down to the other side of the pool 96 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: and hope that the divers would be there, and they 97 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 4: were there a few times. I used to just love 98 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: watching them train and was like, I really want to 99 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: try that, And yeah, I just begged my parents to 100 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: let me start. And they never done diving, never heard 101 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: much about it, so I didn't think I was going 102 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: to stay fit doing diving. 103 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, you're just going to jump off a. 104 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: Board and there's nothing nothing like that, you know, to 105 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: do with fitness or strength about that. But yeah, I 106 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: just convinced them to let me start, and yeah, I 107 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: just kind of went from there. 108 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: When you first started, I gather you started it at 109 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: a lower lower hide. Do you remember the first time 110 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: going off the ten meter platform what that felt like. 111 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the first time off ten meter wasn't 112 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: too bad because at that point I'd had like enough 113 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: years in the sport. I knew what I was doing, 114 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: and you start with something like pretty simple. But usually 115 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: the worst thing in diving is like when the first 116 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: time when you learn like. 117 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: A hard dive or scary dive. 118 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: So the first few ones of ten were okay, the 119 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: first things I learned easy, But when I had to 120 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: then start learning my more difficult dives, that's when I 121 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: was pretty scared. 122 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: I would freak out a fair bit. 123 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I think, yeah, that's a really 124 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: common thing in diving and does stop some people from 125 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 4: being able to progress when they can't get over that fear. 126 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: So you get pretty used to kind of that feeling 127 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 4: and also the feeling of like wiping out and hurting 128 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: yourself in the water. So it's just kind of mind 129 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: of a matter sort of thing, and you just got 130 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: to go for it. 131 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to hear in terms of the preparation 132 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: with an individual diverse when you do synchronize diving, you've 133 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of success in the synchronized diving as well. 134 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: What does that look like in terms of your training, 135 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: how much you do on your own, and then when 136 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: you come together and train, what does that balance look like. 137 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, it can be really different, and I think the 138 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: more you can train together with your partner. 139 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: The better you'll do. 140 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: So I've had a lot of different combinations over the years. 141 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: So when I was younger and I had I had 142 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: a lot of success in Sincrow. I actually my partner 143 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: I trained in the same pool and we would do 144 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: like everything together. So from the basics in we do 145 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: like a lot of dry land training, so a lot 146 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: of stuff out of the pool, so all all of 147 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: that stuff we would do together, and then a lot 148 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: of basic dives in the water we do together. And 149 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 4: then we would still do our competition list, but we 150 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: didn't necessarily have to have a lot of volume doing 151 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: that because we were doing. 152 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: Every other thing together. 153 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: But then throughout the years, I've also had a lot 154 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: of partnerships where we literally only get together, like for 155 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: a few days. So say we're going to travel in 156 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 4: to an international comp Usually we get about three training 157 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: days before we compete, you know, in a competition and 158 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: sometimes we'll literally train like those three days and compete 159 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: because we're from different states and we just haven't been 160 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: able to like work it out, and that's that's all 161 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: we get. So I've definitely notice the difference there, but 162 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: like how you can like how well you do based 163 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: on the amount of time that you have together. And 164 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: then and also the last years I've just had call 165 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: like the cursor Melissa. Everyone that dies with me like 166 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: ends up retiring like the now. 167 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm so old. 168 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: They're all like really young, like ten years younger, and 169 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, surely they'll be all right like that. 170 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: Then they retire and I'm like, oh my gosh, it must. 171 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: Have been made comed literally. 172 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, so we haven't had a really good team 173 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: for a while because they just they all retire. It's 174 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: someone new every year pretty much. 175 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Very tough for the consistency to keep that combination going. 176 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. 177 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And then so every time the new one comes in, 178 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, right, this is we're just going to use 179 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: the same synchrome because everyone has like little different things 180 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: like that are different individually. So I just make like 181 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: a standard synchronized like this is the arm. So we're 182 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: going to do this is we're gonna do it because 183 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: it's the same thing that we've done for how many years? 184 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: And I know that it's going to be like maybe 185 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: a quick turnaround. I feel like I die, but then 186 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: the next person's going to come in. So I just 187 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: try and like simplify that because it does get confusing 188 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: in my brain sometimes when I'm like constantly changing changing partners. 189 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it does. 190 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: When you both up there together, what is the like 191 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: do you have how do you both start the dive? 192 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: Is it a timing thing or do you say something 193 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: or wink at each other? 194 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: I get you don't do that. 195 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: It's actually like really simple. 196 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: It's literally like a ready one, two, three go and 197 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: then you go. But because you've practiced it, you know, 198 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: like the timing and the hard thing is like when 199 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: you're the counter, even though it seems simple and you 200 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: had yourself ready one to go and you go, because 201 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: you know you're going to say go, you like anticipate 202 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: it a little bit early, so you have to wait 203 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: for the go to, like even though they're staying next 204 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: to you have to wait for the other person to 205 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: hear it and kind of factor that in before you 206 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: go and not, especially when you're nervous in calm, you 207 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: just want to like get off the platform. So I 208 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: think being the counter is definitely harder, and it's something 209 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: I never used to do when I was younger, But 210 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: as I've gotten older, I've had like partner sy like, 211 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: well can you count, and I'm like, okay, I can 212 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: hear my voice shaking when I'm in the competition. 213 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty funny. 214 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: Better. 215 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty simple. 216 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: Do you find your mental preparation for a syncrow dive 217 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: different to your individual preparation in terms of what you're 218 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: going through in your head before you start that dive? 219 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: I think for the actual dive it's pretty similar. But 220 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: when you dive with someone else, just having someone else 221 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: there just helps relax you and you can chat about 222 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: random things. Most of the time, I'm pretty chill in competition, 223 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: and it's actually, well. 224 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: I try to be. I'm actually I get quite stressed, 225 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: so I do the opposite to try and calm myself down. 226 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: So if I have someone who's also kind of relaxed, 227 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: it's really easy. We just kind of go through the 228 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: motions chat and just be like, right, which can do 229 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: what whatever? We did in training, So I think just 230 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: having that person there is really different. Whereas when I'm 231 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: competing my own because I am, I do get a 232 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: bit stressed. I just constantly have to like calm myself 233 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: down and try and just I guess distract myself. But 234 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: you can't literally like talk to yourself and when you're like, 235 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: you know, waiting for a dive, because people will be like, 236 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 4: she's really weird. Better, Yeah, I think it's better when 237 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: you have someone there, just it just makes it a 238 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 4: bit less nerve wracking. 239 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: I think you mentioned before that you've had a few injuries, 240 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: and particularly as you've got to the later end of 241 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: your career, what have been your biggest setbacks so far 242 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: in terms of those injuries. 243 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: Definitely, for the majority of my career, I've had back issues. 244 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 4: So that's just something that kind of comes and goes, 245 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: and it's just constantly managing it and managing volume. I 246 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: think the hardest thing with that is not just the injury, 247 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: but it's knowing that I can't train the way I 248 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: used to when I was younger. So when I was younger, 249 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 4: used to just whatever, I just go for it as 250 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: many repetitions as I could, and then now I get 251 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 4: to the point where I know if I go over 252 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: a certain amount that I'm going to end up injured 253 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: and it's going to make me take a set backwards. 254 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: So it's just constantly be like, just leave it there today, 255 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: like you know you've got tomorrow and that kind of thing. 256 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 4: I think it's just hard when you're leading into a 257 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: comp and you know you need that volume behind you, 258 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: but you can't do it because you're just going to 259 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: end up like, yeah, getting injured. It's going to flare out. 260 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, probably my back's been one of the worst ones. 261 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: I've also had a knee injury a couple of years 262 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: ago that that yeah, kept me out for a while, 263 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: which is a bit of a pain. I've got a 264 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: risk injury. Just yeah, they're all more niggles now. 265 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: It's just good. 266 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: Like I haven't had any major major injuries that I've needed, 267 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: you know, any surgeries or anything that made me retire. 268 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: But it's just I feel like the list. 269 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: Just gets longer and longer. There's most of my body 270 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: is injured in some way, even if it's manageable, but 271 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: it's just then trying to find things that work that 272 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: doesn't flare one up at the other pretty much, which 273 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: is the hard part. 274 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: I think for me, a big thing that I've learned 275 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: through injury is about trying to adapt your training to 276 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: still make it work so that you can get the 277 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: most out of it, because I think it's so frustrating 278 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the time to feel like you're kind 279 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: of missing out on what your competitors are able to 280 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: do and feeling like you're losing this time that you 281 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: don't have to necessarily catch up on. And then I 282 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: think it's taught me a lot in terms of resilience 283 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: and being able to have a lot more empathy as 284 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: well for other people going through something similar. Do you 285 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: feel like in terms of your mental preparation and resilience 286 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: that that has taught you a couple of things throughout 287 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: your career? 288 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 289 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: I think to injury, I think it's kind of twofold 290 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: injury and that, Yeah, like you said, you have to 291 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: adapt your training and you have to learn how to 292 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: deal with that. But also when you come into a competition, 293 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: most of the time you feel underprepared as well because 294 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: you haven't had that time to train or you haven't 295 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: had the best preparation. So I think that's another kind 296 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: of sort of mental toughness and resilience that you learn 297 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: to just be like, Okay, it is what it is. 298 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: In competition, You've just got to kind of deal with 299 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: what you've got and make the best of it. Whereas 300 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: I think when I first started getting injured, I had 301 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: this real mentality of all, well, I'm not prepared, I'm 302 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: not ready, and that it was kind of already like 303 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: my excuse or that I was out of my hands. 304 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: Whereas I think when I learned to just own that 305 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: and be like, Okay, I'm just going to get more injured. 306 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: It's not going to magically get better. So I just 307 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: had to learn how to deal with that. And I 308 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 4: think that that I was kind of a key then 309 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: to help me being able to I also compete better 310 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: and perform better under pressure because I kind of took 311 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: a bit more ownership of that, and then that just 312 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: crossed over and when I was nervous and under pressure, 313 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: I just knew better how to deal with that. 314 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: I think that's a really big part of the process 315 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: and a cool thing. As you get further through your career, 316 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: you can learn things that definitely can help you in 317 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: the next competition. 318 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 319 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Looking at Rio in twenty sixteen, I actually got to 320 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: come and watch you compete in Rio. 321 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: Which is pretty cool. Yeah, because we finished. 322 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: On day three of competition for rugby seven, so I 323 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: got to come and watch you compete, which was amazing. 324 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: So you finished fifth in. 325 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: Rio with a score that would have been a silver 326 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: medal in London? What did that feel like knowing that 327 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: the way you performed was up to that standard and 328 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: could have been a medal at the previous Olympics, but 329 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: the standard for the Rio diving was that high. And 330 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: do you feel like over time you've seen diving progress 331 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: and improve and people become more successful in that sense? 332 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 333 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 4: I think that's always the way Sport's always going to 334 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: keep evolving and the standards just going to get higher 335 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: and higher. So I think it's a pretty cool, like 336 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: like fact to kind of look look at the stats there, 337 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 4: but I think when you're in the moment and you're 338 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: competing against those people, like, yes, I didn't really look 339 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: back to. 340 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: London or other than that. 341 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: I came fourth in London, so that it was pretty 342 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 4: close and I knew I could have dived better there, 343 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,119 Speaker 4: which was disappointing. 344 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: But other than to look at that in terms. 345 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: Of scores, I guess it's hard to compare, especially it's 346 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: a bit subjective with judges and in the moment it's 347 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: a bit different. But definitely on the day to come fifth, 348 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 4: you know, I'm kind of up in the mix, but 349 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: you know, it didn't quite get there. 350 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: It's good. 351 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: It's good because I've been able to maintain a standard 352 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: every long period of time, so that's a really good feeling. 353 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: But I think too that it is also a bit 354 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: of disappointment. And I think even if it's not so 355 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: much the placing, but I dived okay, but then my 356 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: last dive, which is usually my strongest. That's why you 357 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: put it last so you can finish off with a bang. 358 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: I missed that and that was a bit more more 359 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: disappointing for me, just to kind of finish the comp 360 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: on a dive that should have been my strongest. So 361 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: I think in terms of that, that's where I found 362 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: like more of the disappointment than just in the placing, 363 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: which I know there's always a lot of emphasis on placing, 364 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: but I think it's also in diving a bit out 365 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: of your hands. All you can do is your dive 366 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: and you get the scores that you're given, and then 367 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: you know you end up where you end up. So 368 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: I try not to focus too much on like just 369 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: the medal, because sometimes the opposite happens. You do really 370 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: bad but you get around and you're like, oh, okay, 371 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: it just makes me feel better, but deep down you 372 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: know I didn't really perform the way I should have. 373 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, trying to put too much weight in the 374 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 4: in the medals, but definitely a metal would be. 375 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess it is what it is. 376 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: When you're preparing for a competition, you're planning out what 377 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: your dives are going to be. So you were just 378 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: saying you normally say the hardest dive for last. When 379 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: it is getting close, do you ever change your dive 380 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: or is it planned? And that's what you stick to regardless. 381 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: So we do five dives each round and usually have 382 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: three rounds. You have a prelim, a semi and a final, 383 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: so you can change your dive lists like before in 384 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: between each round, but you basically you have to do 385 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: it in advance. There's like a cutoff time. Usually actually 386 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: have just a minute beforehand for all three rounds. But 387 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: you can change it like before the round, but there's 388 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: a bit of a cutoff so they can put it 389 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: all into the diving system. It's all electronic. But generally 390 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: most divers stick to a similar dive list. So for me, 391 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: I've kept the same one on the same order for 392 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 4: many many years and usually going into all the you know, 393 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: big competitors, you know the ones you're going to be 394 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: competitive with, you know roughly what their list is, what 395 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: dives they're going to do, what order they're going to 396 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: do it in, So nothing's like a big surprise and 397 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: diving because there's rules about you know which groups you 398 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: have to cover. So for example, we rotate like forwards backwards, 399 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: but then we also do inward and reverse, which is 400 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: hard to explain, and then we do twisting, and then 401 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,359 Speaker 4: on platform there's a handstand. 402 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: Group as well. 403 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 4: So girls have to do five dives and you have 404 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: to cover five groups, and so there's six groups and 405 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: men have to do all the groups. 406 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: Girls have to do five, So girls. 407 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: Are just going to leave out whatever is their worst 408 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: kind of direction. But because of that, there's not like 409 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: a lot of room to play with with Most girls 410 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: will have the same dive lists anyway. So yeah, it's 411 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: not that strategic or anything as much as like it 412 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: probably is when you're watching the comp what's coming up next, 413 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: But it's all kind of pre entered beforehand and not 414 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: like it's not a big surprise or anything. 415 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: Looking forward. 416 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: Then at Gold Coast twenty eighteen, I've got an audio 417 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: clip that I wanted to play for me Akay. 418 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: Militia was this is her final dive. She's the only 419 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: one really who has a chance of beating Meghan the 420 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: Canadian in the gold medal position. Mac Militia schnatchers away 421 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: from them. 422 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: So you're at your home Commonwealth Games in front of 423 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: a big Australian crowd. Yeah, and this is your final 424 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: dive to have an attempt at winning the gold medal. 425 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: What's going through the mind at that point. 426 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's that's the last dive. 427 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: I knowsly the same dive to a last So I know, 428 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: I just have to hit my one of my best dives. 429 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: And actually in that moment, I hadn't dived amazing, but 430 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: I knew I was going well like, well it was okay, 431 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 4: So I just to myself, you just have to hit it, 432 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: like you just have to do a good one, like 433 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 4: there's no excuse kind of thing, and yeah, I just 434 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 4: kind of really in the moment. 435 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: Was like, that's it. 436 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: I just have to do it pretty much, and just 437 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: had to decide and do I guess. 438 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: And when you hit the water, did you know that 439 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: you'd nail the dive and that you had a pretty 440 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: good shot at that gold medal at that point. 441 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 4: No, because I didn't nail it. 442 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: I had to do it. 443 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: Was it was similar, It was okay, it wasn't bad, 444 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: it wasn't to the standard that I like would have 445 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: been happy with. So it was a bit of a 446 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: nail abiding finish because if I had done a good one, 447 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: I would have been. 448 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: Like, okay. 449 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 4: Especially usually because it is subjective and diving, if you 450 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: have a home crowd, you're in your home kind of country, 451 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: you know that the judges in the moment will go 452 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 4: with you. And it's not always on purpose in this 453 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: in the moment, when you hear all the people cheering 454 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 4: and and that kind of thing, usually the judges of 455 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: the around the cord will give you, you know, a 456 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: little bit extra and bump you up. So I knew 457 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: they're going to go with me. All I have to 458 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: do is do a good one, and I didn't even 459 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 4: do that. 460 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: I was like, in my head, I was like, you 461 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: don't just have the gold medal like you've thrown it. 462 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: You had the chance. 463 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, to actually get there and whin the gold 464 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 4: was pretty pretty amazing, and I felt pretty lucky because yeah, 465 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: I knew that it was very close, and I didn't 466 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: do the diet that I probably should have finished on. 467 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: When you came away with the gold, a pretty incredible achievement. 468 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: How did it feel having the pressure of that home 469 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: crowd and do you find I know, for me, I 470 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: put so much pressure on myself to perform, and that's 471 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: where a lot of my drive as an athlete comes from. 472 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: But I also feel even for us heading into RAA, 473 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: we were the favorites and we'd won the World Champs 474 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: that year and they were talking about us being the 475 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: gold medal girls and kind of going in with that 476 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: with that pressure. Do you find what do you find 477 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: harder between the two? The pressure that you put on 478 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: yourself or the pressure that sometimes you might feel from 479 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: family or friends or crowd spectators, whatever that might look like. 480 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think both are hard I think 481 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: over the years I've learned how to block out a 482 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 4: lot of the external pressures and then just you always 483 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: been have the pressure from yourself, and I think that 484 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 4: is also really hard to deal with. But I think 485 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 4: just being able to block things out and then just 486 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: take the good things that they're going to help. So 487 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 4: if something if the crowd's there, I try to see 488 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: it more if something's going to help me rather than pressure, 489 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: Whereas definitely when I was younger, I would have seen 490 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: that more as pressure. So I think just learning how 491 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 4: to kind of flip that in my head, and especially 492 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 4: at that comp. Yeah, I really like we don't we 493 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: don't get any spectators to any of our diving comps 494 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: ever in Australia, so to have like people watching, like 495 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 4: it's like they literally don't even charge any pool and 496 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: dream or we get his parents most of the time, 497 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: so it's like literally empty. You just hear the crickets 498 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: when you've so to have that, I was like, I'm 499 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: just going to enjoy that because that like never happens here, 500 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was. It was really special actually, and 501 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: to hear people cheering your name then you're not really 502 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 4: like used to it. We don't host so many events 503 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: or anything either international comps. 504 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, I was just like, I'm just going to. 505 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: Enjoy it and let them help me, you know, while 506 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: I'm nervous, just let that kind of fuel me to 507 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 4: want to do well and yeah and represent my country. 508 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: Do a show, proud, amazing. 509 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: Who's part of your support structure? I know your siblings 510 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: are big into their sport as well. You're mentioning your 511 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: brother's a weightlift up. Yeah, so what does that look 512 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: like and how important is that to you with your diving. 513 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's super important, especially you know, I started when 514 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: I was so young, and having them throughout the whole 515 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: journey was a really big health So my family, we're 516 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: all really close, all very sporty like from a young age, 517 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: and so yeah, I'm the only diver. Actually my younger 518 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 4: sister did a little bit of diving, but most of 519 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: my family is in weightlifting, which is probably I'll do 520 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: a little bit of it. 521 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: When I'm finished diving. 522 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: I'm pretty bad at that, just I'm like the yeah, 523 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: just the token family member that just tries. 524 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: It's not very good, but we'll just give it a go. 525 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: But yeah, having I think just having a family though 526 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 4: that understands and we all kind of go through the 527 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 4: ups and downs together. And it's interesting too because you know, 528 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: maybe I'm injured, I'm going through a bit of a 529 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 4: rough face, but my brothers having like a really good phase. 530 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: It's interesting when those timings cross in careers, and I 531 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 4: think just having someone there to either support you when 532 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: things are good or to focus on when things aren't 533 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: good for you, and to have something that is still 534 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 4: positive even though it's not yourself, it's your family and 535 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 4: you're super happy for them. 536 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: So I actually really love having that. 537 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 4: And I moved away from home when I was about seventeen, 538 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 4: from Brisbane to Sydney, and I moved away from my 539 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 4: family who was up there, so I missed a lot 540 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: of time with them, and even though I've always been supportive, 541 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 4: I missed that kind of family like daily interaction having 542 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 4: everyone at home. So now that everyone's back in Sydney, 543 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: it's been really awesome to have everyone kind of back 544 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: and just you know, just. 545 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 3: The laughs and they're stupid, they're silly things. 546 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 4: It just makes such a big difference when you know, 547 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: life just seems and sport just seems. You know, so 548 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 4: many obstacles ors, so many challenges, but having that is 549 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 4: really important. 550 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: I think, are we going to see a competitive weightlifting 551 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: tempt from here? You're still in other sports relatively young 552 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: older for a diver be in other sports relatively young, 553 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: So we're going to see a second sport on the cards. 554 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Or is this just a a bit of a fun 555 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: post career just to keep yourself fit. 556 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: Well, I have already done some weightlifting competitions, not very 557 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: good at all, Like I just and I'm the only 558 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: one in it because I'm in like a really like 559 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: I'm in a lightweight kV because I'm so short, so there's. 560 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: Like just me and like masters athlete. 561 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: So I did like a I did a comp after 562 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: it was like after our world championships. 563 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, any about you? It must have been last years 564 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: after worlds. 565 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: I came back and was going to do like a 566 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 4: wasting comp a few weeks later, but later because I've 567 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 4: been just focusing on diving. 568 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: Obviously because that's my main my only sport. Really, weighting 569 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: is just like a hobby. 570 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: I hadn't really done any weightlifting for ages, so I 571 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 4: was really nervous, like not just about the combat, to 572 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 4: just physically do the movement. 573 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: So I'm really bad. 574 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I had I did stay a few 575 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: weeks later, and my my brother and my sister kind 576 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: of helped coach me for that. And it is a 577 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 4: bit more strategic and waitlifting, so we had to we 578 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 4: had to kind of pull a few weightlifting tricks out 579 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 4: for me to get over the top of like the 580 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: sixty year old. 581 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: It was nail biting, but yeah, I just pipped her 582 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: at the end. It's very exciting for me. 583 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: Congratulation, thank you. 584 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a blue ribbon. Very happy with So, yeah, 585 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: it's been a fun It's different. It's really different. It's 586 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 4: cool doing a sport where you're literally starting from the 587 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: like the ground, and you don't have the pressure yet, 588 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: So it was it's interesting. I actually you've kind of 589 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 4: learned a lot from it, and it's good to just, yeah, 590 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 4: pick up a few of those things and focus on 591 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 4: that when I go back into this more stressful diving competition. 592 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: In my next segment, I don't have a proper name 593 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: for it, but I'm going to call it Questions from 594 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: a five year. 595 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: Old and from my grandma. So I've got a couple 596 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: of recorded questions. 597 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: The first one is a recorded question from Freda, who's 598 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: five years old. Helma Lessa. 599 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: Can you jump into a pool from as high as 600 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: a cloud? 601 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 4: That's a good question. I wish the learning was as 602 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: soft as clouds. If you did that, oh well, I 603 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 4: ten minutes high enough for me. 604 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: It's already scary enough for me. 605 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: But there is cliff Divan and if you've seen any 606 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: of that, yeah, that's pretty crazy. 607 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: I definitely wouldn't do that about. 608 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty high. 609 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty I think they do like at 610 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: least double what we do, so I think it's like 611 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: it's more than twenty meters, I think, which I would. 612 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's way too high. Ten meters is definitely 613 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: high enough for me. 614 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: I think ten meters is pointy. My next question is 615 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: from my grandma. Hi, Melissa, looking back over your life 616 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: so far, what are you most proud of? 617 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: That's a really really hard question. Good question. 618 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: I think definitely it has to be like winning a 619 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: silver medal at the Olympics. I think not just because 620 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: of the medal, but I think just everything that went 621 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 4: into that, even though I was I was sixteen at 622 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: the time, just trying to, you know, navigate all the 623 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: challenges of being younger and the squad that I was 624 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: training in was quite stressful. 625 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 3: It was very performance focused. 626 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 4: We used to have the AIS in Brisbane, so they 627 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 4: kind of put everybody there and it was just very 628 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: like competitive kind of environment and just to keep your place, 629 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: and that squad was super stressful. So I ended up 630 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: you know, I went in with a with. 631 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: A about a squad of four or five. 632 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 4: Of us, and then within a year I was the 633 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 4: only one left and it was just me and a 634 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: bunch of older athletes. So yeah, I think that just yeah, 635 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: going from nothing to then a few years later being 636 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 4: able to do that was I think the thing that 637 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: just kind of set not not only so my career, 638 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 4: but just taught me a lot about myself and what 639 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: I could achieve. And yeah, I guess yeah, I learned 640 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 4: a lot from it. 641 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Do you have any interesting rituals or 642 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: habits that you do to prepare yourself for competition? 643 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you superstitious at all? 644 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: Ah? Not really, I want to think of something cool 645 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: to say. But actually, from when I was really young, 646 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: I think because diving is quite like a lot of 647 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 4: people in a perfectionist and you have to kind of 648 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: have that to you know, all you don't have to do. 649 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 4: But a lot of a lot of divers have that 650 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 4: about them, and I'm one of those people. I saw 651 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: as a young diver all these divers with these ridiculous, 652 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: like little things they did, and I thought to myself, 653 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: I'm not going to have any of that, because but 654 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: in a few years I'm going to have every little 655 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: thing wanting to be perfect. 656 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: So I made a. 657 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 4: Conscious decision from young age to just block out like 658 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: all of those things. And they start, they start creepy 659 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 4: and like you want to do things a certain way, 660 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 4: but I just say, like, not going to do any 661 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: of that. And I think it's so unpredictable when you 662 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 4: get to comp and if something happens and you let 663 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: that moment kind of define whether or not you could 664 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: achieve your best or not, is it's kind of silly. 665 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: So for me, I try and like avoid all of 666 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: those kind of things. I like to wear swimmers like 667 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: that I'm comfortable, and that's the only thing we. 668 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Have really that we wear just one swimmer. 669 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 4: So usually, you know, maybe if I had a good 670 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: session in we get two pairs and I had a 671 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: good session in one, and I'll wear that one. But 672 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 4: I'm not too crazy about anything, because yeah, some divers 673 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: have some very specific things and yeah, I just thought 674 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: that wouldn't be good. 675 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: Could end up like Nadal or the ten score exactly 676 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: and doing that whole routine. I think I'm quite similar 677 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: in the sense I feel like if I have some 678 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: kind of superstition, or people have like a favorite pair 679 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: of undies that they wear, or they do their hair 680 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: with a specific ribbon, or have a meal, and it's 681 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: like you're traveling overseas and there's so many different factors 682 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: like what if you lose your favorite pair of undies 683 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: or what if something happens like, yeah, I agree that 684 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you want to put too much too 685 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: much pressure on that kind of thing exactly. Yeah. 686 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 687 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: What does the qualification process look like heading to Tokyo? 688 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: They're still calling it Tokyo twenty twenty but for twenty 689 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: twenty one. 690 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, so ours was Actually we're in the middle of 691 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: getting so we have a couple of events where you 692 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: can get quota spots for Australia to be able to 693 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: compete in the Olympics. So we were about to have 694 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: our last in frontal com to get the last quota spots. 695 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: So we've got most of our individual spots for Australia, 696 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: but we a lot of our syncro teams we don't 697 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: have them yet, So that was going to be our 698 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: last chance to do that, but they actually had to 699 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: cancel that because of COVID, so that was then moved. 700 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: To February next year. 701 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: But we actually just found out officially this morning that 702 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: that's going to get pushed back to April. So yeah, 703 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: so then our trials for that and our nationals is 704 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 4: also going to get moved from the end of this 705 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 4: year to February next year, so I think so yes, 706 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: everything's kind of in the proces of being pushed back 707 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: and nothing's set in stone yet. So generally, yeah, we 708 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: need to have that qualification comp because otherwise we don't 709 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: know which countries can put people into the Olympics, and 710 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: then in terms of our actual Olympic trials, that'll just 711 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 4: be dictated by whatever else happens. 712 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: No on the world stage. 713 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: Have you found that difficult in terms of the motivation 714 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: for the day to day training, because I know from 715 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: our training at the beginning when the Olympics was first 716 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: canceled and postponed, I found it pretty tricky to do 717 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: such a high intensity of training without really knowing what 718 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: competition was going to be next, when it was going 719 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: to be all of that kind of thing. Have you 720 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: found that difficult in terms of staying motivated with your training? 721 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: I think I'm actually I'm a pretty motivated person. So 722 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: I think for me, I haven't found the motivation difficult. 723 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: But probably the thing I've found the most difficult is 724 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: that I have kind of set up a lot of 725 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: things in my life, you know, like to kind of 726 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 4: keep me busy, and I hadn't made a definite decision 727 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 4: about retirement after Tokyo, but in case I'd set up, 728 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of things outside of diving that 729 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 4: I'm currently doing, and now with another year of having 730 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: to put everything that you would know as a fellow, 731 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: like the things that you have to put into sport. 732 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: It's not just hours you train, but it's the mental side. 733 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: It's you know, the nutrition and the you know, a 734 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: psychologist and all the other the physio or. 735 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: That kind of thing. 736 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: I think for me, having do that, doing that for 737 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: another year and trying to maintain a lot of different 738 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: things is probably the most challenging thing for me. So 739 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 4: I am motivated still, and I think I know, even 740 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: if things get pushed back, we're working off a rough 741 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: time frame, and if it does get I don't know 742 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: if the only people get pushed back. I think if 743 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: it gets that point, they may have to just cancel it. 744 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think at least I know this is 745 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: the term for working in so I just have to kind. 746 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: Of last until that date. 747 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: But I want to be able to do more than 748 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 4: just last and just get that and want to put 749 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: everything into it. And I think for me, juggling everything 750 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: is where the real challenge comes at the moment. 751 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: What does that look like post diving once you do 752 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: make that decision whenever that is, to retire, Besides lifting 753 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: weights against six year olds, what does post diving life 754 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: look like for you? 755 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 4: My brother and I have a business called Hardcore Strength, 756 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: So basically he has a wifting clubs. It's all weightlifting 757 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: based at the moment, but I also do kind of 758 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: gymnastic style training but mainly aimed at CrossFit, so it's 759 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: kind of more CrossFit gymnastic. So together we kind of 760 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: team up on that and I'll probably work in CrossFit 761 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 4: and probably do a bit at cross fit and then 762 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: dabble in a little bit of weightlifting. 763 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: Which is good. 764 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 4: And then I also have an active way label called 765 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: habit Athletic, so that kind of launched. 766 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: I don't even know you were now I'm getting so 767 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: it's been. 768 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: It's been. 769 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: I've had it for about almost a year now. So yeah, 770 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 4: now it's getting difficult to kind of stay on top 771 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 4: of everything while still spending all this time your training 772 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: and everything as well. But yeah, that's probably going to 773 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: keep me pretty busy. And I also, I'm also sorry 774 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: coach diving. Our youngest squad our and Swiss squads be 775 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 4: there between the age of about like eight and fourteen ish, 776 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: so yeah, that's been really fun. They just do about 777 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 4: four sessions four sessions of weeks, and I think crazy, 778 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: but I love doing that and yeah, bringing you the 779 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: next generation. So yeah, that probably all that will keep 780 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 4: me busy. I don't think I'll take on too much 781 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 4: more after diving, but I'll be able to put more 782 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 4: time into those things after the fact. 783 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like you've got going on. 784 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Where did the inspiration come from for the activewear label? 785 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: I think just being an athlete and just training and 786 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: stuff for most of my life. 787 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: I just wanted to find. 788 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: Active where that was kind of a bit more suited 789 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 4: to what I'm doing, So we were probably to the 790 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: kind of closy where like more of like a little 791 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: kind of short shorts and things where you can have 792 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: a full kind of range of motion in because of 793 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: all the stuff we do in diving and then now 794 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: being in CrossFit as well a bit more, I think 795 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: I've seen like they have kind of similar sort of 796 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: taste to. 797 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: Me and what they need for their sports. 798 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think just moving into that kind of 799 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: space made me think, Okay, there's a bit of a 800 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 4: bit of a market for this, So I think, yeah, 801 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 4: that was kind of where I started, and then just 802 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 4: developing that now, which is being fun awesome. 803 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: I've got a few would you rather questions for you? 804 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: So the first would you rather? Would you rather perfect 805 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: a dive with a low degree of difficulty or do 806 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: a nearly perfect dive of a high degree of difficulty? 807 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. That's hard. 808 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: Depends how how much off my If it's way off, 809 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: I'll go the easy one. 810 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: But if it's just slightly off of topic, the higher didy. 811 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Okay, would you rather if you made a mistake off 812 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: the team meter platform. Do a belly flop or land 813 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: on your. 814 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: Back back Definitely dellyflop hurts. You can't breathe. You come 815 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: up like and you're like trying to swim to the edge. 816 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: You're like and you're just hoping someone's gonna jump in gray. 817 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely take the back leaning. That's a good 818 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 4: case of advice. 819 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: You heard it here first final. 820 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: Would you rather dive into a pool of cold minnestrone 821 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: soup or a pool of warm honey? 822 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: Warm honey? For sure? 823 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: That was quick. 824 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 4: Yes, you do anything cold hurt You're in soup. Editor, 825 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 4: Please the honey would just be gross, but it won't 826 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 4: hurt us. 827 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on today. 828 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: I've absolutely loved having a chat and it's been so 829 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: cool to learn about Yeah, your your career and everything 830 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: you've learned along the way. And can't wait to keep 831 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: watching you in the lead up to Tokyo awesome. 832 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: Thank you coming to keep listening to your podcasts. 833 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. We'll catch you on the 834 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: next episode. You can find us on Instagram at the 835 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: Female Athlete Project.