1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: this podcast. There were innerie people. This land was never seated, 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: always was always will be. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and welcome to do good sports sports news 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: told differently. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: I'm Georgie Tune and I'm Abbe Jelmy, and I'd like 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: to start this episode first because Georgie is going to 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: beat me. Because if you've just been anywhere near your 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: television this week, you'd see Georgie rubbing shoulders with the elite. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 4: Of the elite of the F one world. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: So if you're looking for your place and your hot 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: take on anything to do with Formula one, two. 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 4: Good Sports is your place. So I'm going to start. 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: Off with my good sport being Victoria and just generally 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: fans of Formula one, because. 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 4: I just feel like it's been. 18 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: It's everything that it could have been for so long, 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: and thank you Drive to Survive for being what it was. 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: Look at you giving Victoria a plug. Our listeners will know. 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: That usually you're there being like, goh, it's so cold. 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: No, I just think there's something really cool about the 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: way that this sport that was once one of the 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: ultimate gate keeping. 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: Sports has permeated. 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: All culture and people are talking about it, and we 27 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: have to give it to Carlos Signs the fact that 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: he had his appendix out. 29 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 4: Have you had appendicitis? 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: I have not had appendicitis. 31 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I am one of those people that I stub my 32 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: toe and I genuinely consider calling an air ambulance. So 33 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd actually do very well with appendicitis, 34 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: let alone be able to back up in two weeks 35 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: and win a Grand Prix. 36 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: I have had it out, and I can't really remember. Yeah, 37 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: I had a pendicitis when I was twelve, but I 38 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: remember being angry because it was Telethon, which is our 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: good Friday appeal in Perth, and I missed the home 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: and Away celebrities like one minute, and I was filthy. 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: Sorry. I was not thrilled. I was not thrilled about 42 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 4: the way that things are panning out for me. Full circle. 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Now I've done Telethon a few times. You'd be quite enjoyable. 44 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Do you think you could have popped into an F 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: one car a really good race without your appendix? 46 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: You know, I'd probably back myself in, But that's the 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: great thing. 49 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: Carlor signs he has just been a media dream after this, 50 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: essentially saying I recommend that all drivers get their appendix out. 51 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: But also after winning the Australian Grand Brix, he's like, 52 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: I'm also jobless next year. 53 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: Because of the trade with Ferrari, and. 54 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: We know that Lewis Hamilton's taking his seat, So he's like, 55 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: anyone want to hire a driver if you give me 56 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: a good car, I'm capable. 57 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: In all seriousness, surely he is now like front runner 58 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: for that Mercedes seat, that open Mercedes seat. 59 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: He has to be is the hot girl at the 60 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: bar and he's just sitting there going I'm just gonna 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: have to swat away suitors soon, gonna have to swat 62 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: them away. 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: But hey, he's got the eye. There's a good reason why. 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: I've led this, because Georgie, you've had a week. Who 65 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: is your good sport? 66 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: Well? 67 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: I could have potentially had a bad sport now good sport, 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: bad sports section. 69 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: But I couldn't because what a week. 70 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: I've had only good sports everywhere, ultimate good sport. 71 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 4: Though. 72 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Yes I interviewed Daniel Ricardo, Yes I interviewed Max Fstappen 73 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: in Humble Brags, but I got to spend fifteen minutes 74 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: with Alex Albon who is the Williams driver, and challenge 75 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: him to a car race, and he is my good 76 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: sport because he was excited from the moment that I 77 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: suggested the crazy idea and it was a remote control 78 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: car race we should specify. So we were in an 79 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: empty function room and I had put a chair on 80 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: the other side of the room and I was like, Alex, 81 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: We're just going to go around the chair and come 82 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: back first. One back wins, and he goes, what if 83 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I lap you? And I was like, it's it's one lap, 84 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't, I don't think I think you can 85 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: lap me. Technically it's only one lap. He did lap me. 86 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Plot twist. He did lap me. 87 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: I at one stage was doing so badly I thought 88 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: that my car was broken and I said it's broken, 89 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: and he ripped the controls out of my hand and 90 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: then proceeded to drive my car completely find super super fast, 91 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: as though nothing was wrong with it. And he told 92 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: me that I was the worst driver he had ever 93 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: seen and that if anyone else on the grid drove 94 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: like me on the weekend, he would be winning the 95 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Australian Grand Prix. 96 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: Georgie, describe your driving abilities behind a normal vehicle to 97 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: the listener. 98 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: I invite me to go. I can. 99 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: I may may have run into a poll once and 100 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: everyone said, how have you done this? 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: And I was turning left. 102 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: It came out of nowhere. 103 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: George is driving as someone who's quite often been shotgun 104 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: is dubious at best, terrifying at worst. 105 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: And you best believe I freaking took Alex Albon out 106 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Deny in the remote control. 107 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: Car the first turn. It was me. 108 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: It was my bad, but he's my ultimate good sport 109 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: because he just made it so so fun. 110 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: I'm going to give a very quick bad sport to 111 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: the review system in the AFL if we have one 112 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: more review for the ball being out of it like 113 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: it's like umpire's got terrified this weekend, and I get it, 114 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: there's been some howlers, but my goodness, may let the 115 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 3: game play. 116 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: We need no chip technology because it's killing. 117 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: Me with Ossie rules. 118 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't quite understand everyone's fascination with like, oh my god, 119 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: it's out. Whenever they do those fancy little prancing runs 120 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: along the boundary, the ball is always out, and everyone's 121 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: like it's crazy that he kept that in. 122 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: He didn't. It's never in. 123 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: Did you just say prance? 124 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: He did say prancing. They do their prance, they prance around. 125 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to challenge that on many levels. Sometimes 126 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: the ball is in a lot of the times it 127 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: is out. But there was some howlers on the weekend 128 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: that then resulted in the first quarter in Adelaide. I've 129 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: just never known there to be so many reviews, so 130 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: much so that BT was like, well, there's is remarkable 131 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: and not in a good way anyway, that's my bad sport, 132 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: Like you either get the chip technology or just let 133 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: the game go or go except there's gonna be errors 134 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: because please stop stopping my game. 135 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: Anyway. 136 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: Let's get to our deep dive because it is putty related, 137 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: so let's get into it. 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: Now. 139 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: The concept of an AFL team in Tazzi jelmy. Look, 140 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: it has been a talking point among forty fans for 141 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: actual decades, like we are not exaggerating that decades. Ever 142 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: since the old Victorian Football League went national in the 143 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: late eighties, there have been calls for a team in Tasmania. 144 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 3: Our friends in the Apple Aisle had to watch on 145 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: as Brisbane West Coast Adelaide and Perth clubs all joined 146 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: the competition. 147 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: By the time the Gold Coast Consulting and. 148 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: Gw Wes were handed their expansion licenses over ten years ago, 149 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: they were riots. Yeah, they even had to watch on 150 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: as Victorian clubs played their home games in the fair State. 151 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: But they never lost hope. 152 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: They never lost hope, and finally they were rewarded on 153 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: the second of May twenty twenty three, when officially the 154 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: AFL's nineteenth license was given to a Tasmanian team. And now, 155 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: as of most recently, we have a name, we have colors, 156 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: we have branding, and the team will be the Tasmania Devils. 157 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: What we don't have are any players, a stadium, a CEO, 158 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: or a general idea of how this thing's going to 159 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: get off the ground. But my gosh, do we have 160 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: a license. And the thing that's been making news this 161 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: week is one hundred and fifty thousand founding members. 162 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so they announced the team only like what was 163 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: it last week? Yeah, they announced that they were going 164 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: to be called the Tasmania Devils, and they said you 165 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: can get for ten dollars, you can sign up and 166 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: you can become a foundation member. We will put your 167 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: name somewhere on the stadium if we get one and 168 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: a bumper sticker and a bumper sticker. So it's not 169 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: actually membership signing up for you to sit in a seat. 170 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: That's not what this is. 171 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: As opposed to Collingwood West Coast Richmond that have one 172 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: hundred thousand members yet are vine to be seated largely 173 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: but still. 174 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty thousand, their aim was forty thousand 175 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: by October. 176 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: The grand plan was, if we can get forty thousand 177 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: people to put support behind this team g it'll be 178 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: a huge showing. Yes for a stadium that we're hoping 179 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: has a roof, And by that I mean Andrew Dylan's like, no. 180 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: No, must must have a roof. 181 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 182 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and twenty two thousand, which I think is a 183 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: great number. I think you absolutely really yes. 184 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: Oh we're going to fight. I think this is crazy. Okay. 185 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: So the license for the Tasmania Devils was conditional on 186 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: the government, so it was a liberal government made the 187 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: deal with the AFL saying that yes, you can have 188 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: this license, but you need to construct a twenty three 189 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: thousand seat stadium with a roof. Yes, I think that 190 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: a twenty three thousand seat stadium. What is the point 191 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: of it. 192 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: The reason why I said it was a great number 193 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: is in opening round I went up and was there 194 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: at Giants Stadium when they took on Collingwood. Oh yes, 195 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: and it was the clubs. I think it was in 196 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: their top five highest crowds I've ever played in front of. 197 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: It was twenty one thousand, okay, and this was them 198 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: taking on the raining premiers in the opening round and 199 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: there could not have been more pump up for it 200 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: and the stadium itself, while there were empty seats out 201 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: at Home Bush, or as Mason Cox calls it, the showgrounds, 202 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: of which they then put up a petting zoo. 203 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: Stunning, stunning, stunning. 204 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: The Giants social media team just give yourself, I hope 205 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: you giving yourself some bloody collaps on the back. 206 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 4: Amazing, He's a star. 207 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: I just think I'm comparing it to football in a 208 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: non footballing state, whereas Tasmania, we know is a footballing state. 209 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: Is a footballing stag. 210 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: So maybe you're right. 211 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Well, I am looking at it from a scope of 212 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: it being a very controversial move for locals. The stadium 213 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: will cost about more than seven hundred million dollars right, 214 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: and the state government is probably going to have to 215 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: cough up at least half of that and then however 216 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: else they sought out the funds. But that is a 217 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot of money for a twenty 218 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: three thousand seat stadium that, as far as I know, 219 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: can only really be used in this context. If you 220 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: want to get a Matilda's game and you want to 221 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: have it played down there, twenty three thousand six, they 222 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't bother, yes would yes, three. 223 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: More they're going to use it for rather purposes. That's 224 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: part of the a twenty. 225 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: Three thousands too little for that. 226 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: Like if you know, if you're going to have a 227 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: touring act, what Pink's going to go there? 228 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: No, Pink's not going to go there. I mean tell 229 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: us we've certainly not going to go there. 230 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: Like if you if you tell us she's as babe, 231 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: have you she's got fifty trucks to move, she's on Tuesdays. Yes, 232 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: But because Brisbane has fifty two and a half thousand, 233 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: that's not enough. 234 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just think that it needs 235 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: to be at least and. 236 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to sound hypocritical here because it doesn't sound 237 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: that much more. It needs to be at least thirty 238 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: thousand so that you can have it be attractive to 239 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: other things, so that it can pave the way and 240 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: pay for itself eventually. 241 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: But then it's only more expensive, which makes people more angry. 242 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: True, that is true, but they're already angry. They're already angry. 243 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 4: All right. 244 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: Let's get to the backstory of the history of football 245 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: before we get to the politics, because we've delved into 246 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: the politics early. But footy has been played in Tasmania 247 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: for around one hundred and fifty years, so long as 248 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: there's been a Sharon some variety, they've played it on. 249 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: The island state. 250 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: And you, Jeremy, you grew up with Ozzie rules more 251 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: so than me. 252 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: Massively. 253 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Has Tasmania always been in the conversation? Have they always 254 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: been there being like we'd love it? Please please please. 255 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Look look at us, Look at us team team for us. 256 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if they're screams for a 257 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: team made it across another water where I was growing 258 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 3: up in Western Australia, to be honest, but I do 259 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: know they are a very strong footballing state and we 260 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: know that from the pedigree of players that have come 261 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: through Matthew Richardson, who I've spoken to at length about 262 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: this and how much it would mean for him. We 263 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: know that Jack Reewolt has retired and taken an ambassadorship 264 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: type role with Tasmania say nailing it as well. He 265 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: is everywhere, so well, he is everywhere. And also Nick 266 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: Riewolt his cousin famous name's Alista Lynch. So because link 267 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: exactly one of yours. You've seen so many stars come 268 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: out of Tasmania because they it's what they play growing up. 269 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 3: They play cricket hoping to be Ricky Ponting's. They punch up. 270 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 3: They really do punch up. Because if you go anywhere 271 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: near Loncester and they're like do you know, I'm like, yes, 272 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: Ricky Ponting's from here, thanks for coming. But the earliest 273 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: bid for an AFL team in TASMANI was made. 274 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: This blew my mind nineteen eighty seven. 275 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty seven. 276 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: They were like, God, before you and I were even specs. 277 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: They were like, come on, let us have a go. 278 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: Wow. 279 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: And in that time we've seen the Suns, no comment 280 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: and the Giants be added to this tim well, actually 281 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: probably more than that. 282 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: Eight formal proposals were put for between nineteen ninety two 283 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty three. They're now successful. Bid has been 284 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: in the work for several years. In November twenty twenty two, 285 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: the Taz government and the AFL reached and in principal agreement. 286 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: I love those words on the commercial terms for the 287 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: nineteenth alliances. Now they knew they were getting warmed. Then 288 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, the Taz government's funding committed to 289 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: include twelve million dollars per year over twelve years, plus 290 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: sixty million towards a high performance and administration complex. So essentially, 291 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: the AFL said, you on a team. There's plenty of 292 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: other states that want a team. What are you going 293 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: to do for it? And the Tazi government has had 294 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: to kill keep saying we will provide. 295 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: You want a stadium, We're gonna build the stadium. 296 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: So it's not the AFL necessarily going we're desperate to 297 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: have a team in Tasmania. It's Tasmania saying, look what 298 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: will provide if you grant us this license. 299 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: Also you think about you know, the saying try try 300 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: try again. 301 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: This is try try, try, try, try, try, try try again. 302 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: I've lost count. But try by seven and then another 303 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: try again. 304 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: Sounds like the Panthers in the final. What I'm sorry, sorry, Tasmania. 305 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: Let's just sorry, I'm bleeding out the air ambulance again. 306 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: Before she kicks me under the desk. 307 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: But TASA Tasmania will be represented in both the AFL 308 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: and AFLW competitions, and we saw the presentation this week 309 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 3: of the guernsey which highly highly reflects back to their 310 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: state Guernsy with the map and apparently now Jack Rewat's 311 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: been going out to all the schools and different clubs 312 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: and has his finger on the pulse apparently of what 313 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: people wanted and for Tasmanian football supporters, the map and 314 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: the colors that we saw in the red, the yellow, 315 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: the green really strongly mean a lot to football fans 316 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: in Tasmania and it makes sense in that those colors 317 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: are what they've affiliated Tasmanian football with. But something that 318 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: they didn't harp on enough I feel is that it's 319 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: their foundation jumper. This is not their home nor away jumper. 320 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Yes, which can I just be very very frank did 321 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I send? When I saw this jersey? It gave me 322 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: hope actually that this was just the heritage jumper, their 323 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: foundation jumper, and they wouldn't have to wear this in 324 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: actual competition come twenty twenty eight. 325 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: But I feel like the jumper itself should have had 326 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: asterisk on it. 327 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Should have it should have been It would have made 328 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: more sense than the actual jumper, because when we first 329 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: saw it, did I send you and producer James a 330 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: note saying, hang on a second, does that tea look 331 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,479 Speaker 1: like fallopian trees. 332 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: To anyone else? 333 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: Because I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just saying it's 334 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: not that far of a leap. 335 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: Look up, You're not. 336 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: The only one who said it. 337 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: Also, if it's not filopian tubes, it's a bloody four 338 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: and twenty pie with. 339 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: Sauce on it. 340 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: So they should be the ignor inaugural sponsors of this team, 341 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: because what why is it? The yellow the perfect pastry color, 342 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: and then you've got tomato sauce and then it's sitting 343 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: in a green. 344 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: Field like what what? So I'm not a fan of 345 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: the guernsey. 346 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry everyone and the millions of dollars that 347 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: you've already spent in getting that heritage. 348 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: Jersey, and do I like it? 349 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: I am so intrigued to see if they take on 350 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: the feedback of everyone going eh. 351 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Also just the positioning of it. That's where the filopian 352 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: tubes would be. 353 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Like, you've got to think about this. I'm like, what 354 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: for the afl W and the APH like what? Oh goodness? Anyway, 355 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: I did like they the mascot. 356 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: I just wonder if they had anyone like you and 357 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: their board meeting that would be willing to go, guys, 358 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: anyone see the female reproductive system? 359 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: Or do I need a coffee break? But what we 360 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: do know. 361 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: This is why we need more women in sports. 362 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: What we do know is they finally revealed and it 363 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: was the big build up. 364 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: What is this team going to be called? 365 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: And they are called the Tasmania Devils And this had 366 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: been a story for the better part of three years. 367 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: At first I wasn't I wasn't a massive fan on 368 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: calling them the Devils. 369 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: Why not? 370 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: Well, I know it makes all of the sense, all of. 371 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: The what else are they going to be? The jack 372 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: jumpers that take it? I know? 373 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean the jack Jumpers is the best name, the 374 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: best name in sport. 375 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: But because the Melbourne Demons, you already have a devilish 376 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: character in the Demons. 377 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: So and I can. I mean, I can. Look, I've accepted. 378 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: I have not thought of that parallel, and that's valid 379 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: because if you're not going to have Warner Brothers Tazzy 380 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: Devil as your mascot, which you won't be able to 381 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: and we'll get into, how else are you going to represent? 382 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: Is it going to be like a really angry looking possum. 383 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: It does look like an angry possum. It does look 384 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: like an angry pos them, but just and I can 385 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: see it now, I've accepted it. I've accepted that the 386 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Tasmanian Devils makes so much sense, and that you know 387 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: it is a marketer's dream because you can be like, 388 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, Hellish Clash, you know the I and I 389 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: just say, I want to copyright this right now. But 390 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: anyone who is involved in this team, if you are 391 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: not already planning your marketing promotional materials, when these players 392 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: finally kick a goal and it is not cruel summer, 393 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: he looks up Grinnin like a devil, Fire yourselves, fire. 394 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: Where is your brain? 395 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: Go? 396 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 397 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the first goal for Tasmania straight through 398 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: the sticks? You're hoping it's your pinut player And he 399 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: just starts smiling, and then you just put that on 400 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: every single billboard. 401 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: He looks up grinnin like a devil. You're welcome, world, 402 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: you are welcome. 403 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: I'm willing to wager everything I have that that doesn't happen. 404 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 4: I don't know how to begin to tell. 405 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: You, but let me take you on a bit of 406 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: a germ of why this was such a story. 407 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: But don't we talk more about the marketing and promotion. 408 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think we're done here and that is why 409 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: we're very different on two good sports. But Tasmania's VFL 410 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: program used the Devil's name from two thousand and one 411 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: to two thousand and eight. It was revived in twenty eighteen, 412 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: meaning every Tasmanian football team from under twelves boys and 413 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: girls to the tac Cup and senior men and women's 414 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: sides were known as the Tasmania Devils. Now, the problem 415 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: is Warner Brothers has Tazzi Devil and Tasmanian Devil as 416 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: a trademark. 417 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: That little thing that spins round because the. 418 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: Devil they took on bugs Bunny and they thought we 419 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: need a devil from down under that no one really knows, 420 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: so of course we all know the Tazzi Devil, the cartoon, 421 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: and the problem with trademark is it covers a lot 422 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: of things that you want to put a football logo on, lunchboxes, backpacks, 423 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: t shirts. They own Tazzy Devils. And the bit about 424 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: this that made me laugh so hard is that you 425 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: had executives at the launch where they've said our team 426 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: is called the Tasmania Devils, and this is a genuine quote. 427 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: Once Warner Brothers became aware that the Tasmanian Devil is 428 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: the legitimate name of the animal from the island in Australia, 429 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: their claims kind of fell apart because genuinely Warner Brothers 430 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: thought there must be another name. The nickname of this 431 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 3: animal is the Tazzi Devil. Yeah, no, no, no, it 432 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: is Australia, mate, Australian. 433 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 4: It's called Tasmanian Devil. I don't know why I said that. 434 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: I love that you're Australian trying to do an Australian accent, 435 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: but you have one because you are Australian. But basically 436 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: what you're saying is that Warner Brothers. 437 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 4: Said no, and we said animal, and they've gone, oh shit, 438 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 4: it's real. 439 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: It's not the most American thing. 440 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that they're American execs, isn't the most American 441 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: thing that could ever have happened. It's like them having 442 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: their world series when they're the only ones that compete. 443 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: It's like, guys, actually, okay, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 444 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: US geniuses thought up this mythical creature that is the 445 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: Tasmanian chexnotes or actual. 446 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: Was there was there one Australian at Warner Brothers that 447 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: was like, guys, this idea the Tasmanian Devil, and they're like, 448 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: you just thought that up? 449 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: And he's gone, yeah, yeah, I made it up like some. 450 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: Bloke in the early eighties has just gone yeah yeah, 451 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 3: definitely not a thing my brain. 452 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: I'll take all the credits. 453 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: So anyway, yeah, anyway, it's basically what no money has 454 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: exchanged hands. The two parties have come to a mutual 455 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: agreement and shared ip around the name. So you're both 456 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: going to be able to buy a Warner Brothers Tazzi 457 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: devil on. 458 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: A lunchbox and then one that represents. 459 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: The team that is going to be in the AFL, 460 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: and we say is going to be in the AFL. 461 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: It says let's put that, let's bring the astroisk back. 462 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 3: Well, there are so many caveats, and those being the 463 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: launch day is the start of the twenty twenty eight season, 464 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: which we are in twenty twenty four. The must have 465 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: for the AFL is a stadium. And my favorite part 466 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: about this is it must have a roof. 467 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 2: That's right. 468 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: As someone who has done a lot of cricket, cricket 469 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: summer sport in Tasmania out of Hobart and Lonceston, it 470 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: gets cold, I think. 471 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: It does need one. 472 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that there has to be a roof 473 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: because it does get freezing cold and of course that's 474 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: going to ramp up costs. But what makes this even 475 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: more contentious right now is that we've just had an 476 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: election in Tasmania, a state election. 477 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: It is still on. 478 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: We're still having seats we decided as we go to air. 479 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: So it looks like the Liberal government will retain a 480 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: minority government so they will still be in charge. They 481 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: are the ones that have broken this deal with the 482 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: AFL to have the roof stadium, and how with. 483 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: The deal to agree to a stadium, which has led 484 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: to the license and the announcement because there is an 485 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: agreement and not a gentleman's agreement in writing. 486 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 4: Yes that this will be provided things have. 487 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: Been assigned, there have been legit handshakes. 488 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: So the thing that makes this so very interesting is 489 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: that a minority government means that there are certain independents 490 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: at play that then now have a very very very 491 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: big role in different things that happen, anything that tries 492 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: to go through the Parliament or their parliament. And my 493 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: favorite part of this is that the Liberal government they 494 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: called this election early because they were trying to secure 495 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: a majority government because they weren't sure if they were 496 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: going to be able to do that in a year's time. 497 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: Now that did not happen, they will still have government. 498 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: But it also means that Jackie Lamby and the Jackie 499 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: Lamby Network, an independent senator there in Tasmania herself. 500 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: And you don't know Jackie Lamby. As soon as we 501 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: play what we're about to play, you'll go, oh, yeah, 502 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: I know her. And you have to know she is 503 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: one of the most famous politicians in the country. 504 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you would one thousand percent know her. She 505 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: has very very strong opinions on things including a roofed stadium. Now, 506 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: the Liberal government they were like, yes, we've got this, 507 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: but because they have minority, it may not be so 508 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: simple for them to pass laws and decrees et cetera, 509 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. 510 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: And the Labour's government argument heading into this election was 511 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: we're pro the team. Don't get us wrong, we're pro 512 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: Tasmania having a team. We would look to renegotiate the stadium. Yes, yes, 513 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: and the AFL going well, no, you wouldn't, No, you wouldn't. 514 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: And all of this is happening, but there's been a 515 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 3: launch and we're waiting to see how the seat's fall 516 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: with all of this unknown seats of the stadium and 517 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: the seats in Parliament. But also why Jackie Lamby is 518 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: so important is because her and her senators may actually 519 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: end up with the deciding votes. 520 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: And she has a loud voice. 521 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: And this is what she thinks a very strong message. 522 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: Shall we say to the AFL CEO Andrew. 523 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 5: Dillon, if Andrew Dyllon want to touch on what it's 524 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: like in Tasmania, Hey mate, I'll put you out for 525 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 5: a few weeks. Come and have a look in my 526 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 5: backyard in Bernie on the northwest coast, and then you. 527 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: Might get a blome. 528 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: You're able to check mate because we can't afford it 529 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: in Tasmania and that's it, end of story. We'd love one, 530 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 5: I can tell you, but I'll tell you we're not 531 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 5: as rich as what they are in Western Australia. We 532 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: don't have all that resources, money coming into us, all 533 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: that sort of stuff, and we have so many issues 534 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 5: going on in Tasmania where they have to be prioritized 535 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 5: over a stadium. And it's as simple as that. 536 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: We are seeing this. 537 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: Firstly, she's so great, so great, love more against. 538 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: She is incredible for politics because you never die wondering. 539 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: What genuinely I have met Jackie, and I genuinely think 540 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: that she really does. 541 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: Care absolutely, and what she's caring about is seven hundred 542 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: and fifteen million being the supposed cost. Yes, and I 543 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: say supposed stadiums blow out. 544 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: Especially if you make it increase the capacity of the 545 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: venue as I'm calling on them to do, it's going 546 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: to blow out even more. 547 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: Stadiums blowout, Timelines blow out, and when stadiums blow out 548 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: is to the tune of hundreds of millions. And as 549 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 3: Jackie Lamby's saying, we have really massive issues and the 550 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: thing is Australia wide we have. The word crisis is 551 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: used to apply to most things in our lives. There 552 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: is the cost of living crisis. There is a youth 553 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 3: crime crisis. There is crisis everywhere. And basically, tax payers 554 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 3: when it comes to an election, don't want a shiny 555 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: new stadium. They want the price of potatoes to come down. 556 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Yes, and also because we are hit by those personal crises, yes, 557 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: but the governments and state governments they're also feeling those effects. 558 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: They have that as well. 559 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: And it's not just Tasmania. We've seen this week that 560 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: the Queensland government are renegging on their bid to try 561 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: to updo the stadium for the Olympics. Oh but that's 562 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: to the cost of three point four billion dollars. And 563 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: essentially any government that advocates for a massive spend on 564 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: a new stadium that long term will bring joy is 565 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: losing elections because people want immediate relief. 566 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: But how the Liberal government, if indeed you know what 567 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: we think is going to happen, and they retain power 568 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: a minority government and the AFL, what they need to 569 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: do is switch the conversation and get it focused more 570 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: on not on how much is going to cost, but 571 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: how much they are investing and how much that investment 572 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: will make them in the future because they are investing 573 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: in jobs they are. 574 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 4: Even the construction will take so much work. 575 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: I've seen some figures and it's like it could bring 576 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: in two billion dollars this team, this stadium, all of 577 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: this for the state. So they really need to switch 578 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: that narrative so that becomes the focus because everyone in 579 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: Tasmania does want a football team. They want the Devils. 580 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: They want it to be a success. They want someone 581 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: that they can barrack for every single week that's going 582 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: to play at home. 583 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: They might need to extend the stadium so there's a 584 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: wall tall enough to fit the one hundred and fifty 585 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: thousand names of the founding members. 586 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: That's more money. 587 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: Such has been the vote of confidence behind this, so 588 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: we know that people desperately want it. But I just think, 589 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: and we're seeing this across the board in sport, we're 590 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: still having conversations about how this is going to happen. 591 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: When it's going to happen. When we're a few short 592 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: years out from when the launch date is. Yeah, four 593 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: years is such a tight time to build a stadium 594 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: and you've still got to get it approved through all 595 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: the processes. If this doesn't get approved quickly, it's really 596 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 3: hard to see it finished in time well. 597 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: And also if it's not ready to go by twenty 598 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine, So the team exists in twenty twenty eight, 599 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: they're running out and they'll be splitting their home games 600 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: between a number of venues, including bell Reef. But if 601 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: it's not done by twenty twenty nine, which is when 602 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: we are meant to have this roofed stadium with twenty 603 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: three thousand people, that Tasmanian government is going to have 604 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: to pay four and a half million dollars per season 605 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: that the new stadium isn't ready by, So that's just 606 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: the tax for the stadium not even being there, not 607 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: being ready with all of these delays. 608 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: If that happens, and meanwhile they need to attract bumper talent, 609 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: the system is going to be that they will get 610 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 3: a lot of high draft picks, but they will need 611 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: to trade those to other clubs to get senior players. 612 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: So instead of what we saw with the Sons potentially 613 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: where they got these high draft picks and these stars 614 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: and these young players went up there, played for a 615 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 3: few years, established themselves and as soon as they could 616 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: return to Melbourne. So it was this breeding ground of 617 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: talent where they got paid incredible money to play in 618 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: a non faobailing state. Yes, but they wanted to be 619 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: in front of the big crowds. They're now suggesting the 620 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: opposite in that get an established champion to come down 621 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: for the twilight years of their career, get remunerated really well. 622 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: But be a leader of the club is the way 623 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: the system's going. And there's also talks of Brendan Gale 624 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: potentially being the new CEO, which he is just such 625 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: a star administrator it would be a massive coup if 626 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: they actually had someone like him to represent the club. 627 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: I think that he will go down there. 628 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that that will happen, so that that would 629 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: be a massive win for the Devil. 630 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: It's starting to look very Richmond. 631 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: Well between rich and Yeah. 632 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: But what I actually think they need to do is 633 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: not look to Richmond. They need to look to another code, 634 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: which is the NBA, and just look at what the 635 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: jack Jumpers have done flo follow that. 636 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: If not the filopian tubes, what would you like to 637 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: see on the front of it? Are you just pop 638 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: shotting off? You've got ideas of what you'd like to 639 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: see on the Gurzi. 640 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: I like the green. I think the green is great. 641 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: Green, yellow and red's not complimentary for anyone. 642 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: No, it really isn't what I would just like, why 643 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: can't it just be green with like little yellow trim 644 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: on the sleeves? 645 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: And then I know that very Australiana. 646 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I know Bamba's fans won't like this. 647 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: But then you take the red sash, the red. 648 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: Sash or even just a red V, and then you 649 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: can have the little V for vics. 650 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: No, but why is that? Is that what it is? 651 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: The vis? 652 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: Oh my god? 653 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 2: What Victorian's own like that design? 654 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: No? 655 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: Come on, if you just had that like a V there, 656 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: and then you had the little tazzy logo that they've 657 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: got the frustrated possum whatever you said it was. And 658 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: if you just had that, that's way better than fillopian tubes. 659 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: And then you could have the outline the outline of 660 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: Tasmania on the back with the number You're welcome. 661 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: I've solved again. It solved it again. 662 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: The frustrated Possums coming to a stadium with a roof 663 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: iney year, hopefully in twenty twenty eight. George, Yes, fun 664 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: fact time, and when I saw this one, I said, George, 665 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: you don't look it's mine. 666 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 4: I've not looked at it. It's mine, I've not looked. 667 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: State of origin as a concept actually comes from Australian 668 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: rules football. 669 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: It doesn't. 670 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: It does, though, despite being synonymous with rugby league. State 671 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: of origin in Australian rules dates back to the nineteen seventies. 672 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: It really does. 673 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: So. Rugby league series that we know today between Queensland 674 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: and New South Wales, your beloved Morons Roots was first 675 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: played in nineteen eighty two. 676 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: What a time. 677 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: I wasn't alive, but what a time. 678 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: So Ossie Rules first hosted state representative matches in eighteen 679 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: seventy nine. So in terms of what in terms of 680 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: a gap, there's quite a large margin in which the 681 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: the concept that rugby league fans go, oh yeah, I 682 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: mean Ozzie Rules, it's all right, but you don't have 683 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: state of origin. 684 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: We had it first, bitches. 685 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what happened to it? What happened to it? 686 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: How you've dropped You've dropped the absolute ball here. 687 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: How could you have had such a strong concept, proven 688 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: strong concept from rugby league and absolutely set it on 689 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: fire in Ossie Rules. Also, why did they even come 690 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: up with that concept? Because Ossie Rules was like, literally, 691 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: this is this is the problem. 692 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: This is the problem. 693 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: It is so for a national game, only Victoria cares 694 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 1: about it. 695 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: Wow and Tasmania okay and w wow. 696 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: I was about to say and South Australia and Sydney 697 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: going quite. 698 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Half of New South Wales and half of queensand other 699 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: than that. 700 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: So essentially, as we know, the AFL used to be 701 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: the VFL, so it was very Victorian central. But the 702 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: expansion of the competition who were the state? The problem 703 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: with state of origin? When would you play it in 704 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: AFL middle of the CEA is wouldn't happen? Why because 705 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: of the injuries they play rugby league. Yeah, but you'd 706 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: also have to have players from like more. You couldn't 707 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: just have two states. 708 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: You can have the VICTI and this is and this 709 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: is where this is where the AFL has down. 710 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: We did necessarily have VIX and all Stars, but it 711 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: was also hard. 712 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: They then it became the E. J. Whitten Game. 713 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Is that a celebrity game? 714 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 4: Yes? Roberts playing that of course? Yes. 715 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: Anyway, fun fact you al most love product. We thought 716 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: of it first you just do it better. We can, 717 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: we can we make peace at that with our product. 718 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: You do it better. 719 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to do Good Sports and iHeart production. 720 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: Follow us on social media. We are going to put 721 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: up in stories. George, you described her guernsey at length. 722 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make her draw it and I'm gonna put 723 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: it up so what we've described will be there visually. 724 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: That's at two Good Sports Podcast. As always, thank you 725 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: to producer James be A Good Sport The lassoical A