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Speaker 1: Two Good Sports would like to acknowledge the traditional owners

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Speaker 1: of the land on which we record this podcast. That

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Speaker 1: will rundery people. This land was never seated, always was,

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Speaker 1: always will be. Hello and welcome to two good Sports

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Speaker 1: sports news told differently. I'm Georgia Tunney and I'm ab

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Speaker 1: Jelmy on today's show. How do you solve the problem?

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Speaker 1: Like the Wallaby or a dollar one? To see that

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it is a problem, George, the Wallabies a huge one.

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Speaker 1: Oh. It is one of the biggest problems in Australian

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Speaker 1: sport that I can currently see. Australia's glamour, Green and

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Speaker 1: Gold team is arguably, I think it's fair to say,

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Speaker 1: at its lowest point in its history, it's coachless, tick

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Speaker 1: trophy less tick well, technically no major trophy since twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: penniless tick from all accounts, what we can work out

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Speaker 1: rudderless tick tick tick tick tick Because where to now

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Speaker 1: for Team Australia Rugby union in this country. Look, it

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Speaker 1: usually plays second, third, maybe even fourth fiddle to the

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Speaker 1: other football codes, at least domestically, but its national team

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Speaker 1: has always been a source of national pride. When Australia

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Speaker 1: is winning, everyone talks about it. When they're not well,

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Speaker 1: Everyone talks about it for a little bit, then everyone

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Speaker 1: moves on. When they're really not Everyone sees a headline

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Speaker 1: or two, but they don't read the entire article, which

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Speaker 1: is big warning signs because the latter has become the norm.

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Speaker 1: It's almost expected that the Wallabies won't win these days,

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Speaker 1: especially when you demote the most experienced players on the

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Speaker 1: team at the most critical of times. Potentially a Rugby welco.

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Speaker 2: And Australian's like watching names that they know. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: when you've got a team full of young players that

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Speaker 2: you don't feel anything towards yet did we try to

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Speaker 2: run before we could crawl?

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Speaker 1: I think for this World Cup? Yes, I think that

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Speaker 1: could be fair to say. And you're right, Jemmy, because

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Speaker 1: in a world of fragmented attention spans, how do you

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Speaker 1: retain and obtain fans when there's a significant lack of

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Speaker 1: success and a significant lack of knowledge When it comes

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Speaker 1: to the stars that are even in the game right now?

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Speaker 1: What is going on at Rugby Australia, How the hell

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Speaker 1: do they turn this around? We're here to help A

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Speaker 1: few thought bubbles from tell me and I.

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Speaker 2: And how can one man look down the barrel and

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Speaker 2: say I'm committed, I'm staying, I'm coaching Australia. Then Eddie

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Speaker 2: Jones just let the door whack him on.

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Speaker 3: The way out. It's remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's crazy. The name's Jones, Eddie Jones. What do

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Speaker 1: you do, sir?

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Speaker 3: But you and I love him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, still love him.

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Speaker 2: It's anyway, this is going to be our deep dive.

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Speaker 2: Strap yourself in. But headlines first.

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Speaker 1: Headline. One keeper says mine.

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Speaker 4: It is the game and the day belongs to Australia,

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Speaker 4: the world champions England now officially.

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Speaker 1: Out of the tournament, on a week when bas ball

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Speaker 1: was included in the Colins Dictionary as a legit word.

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Speaker 5: Legit, legit.

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Speaker 1: It's been included in the Collins Dictionary.

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Speaker 2: Ball as in the description of how England play cricket

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Speaker 2: is in the Collins Dictionary.

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Speaker 1: A style of Test cricket in which the batting side

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Speaker 1: attempts to gain the initiative by playing in a highly

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Speaker 1: aggressive manner. Well, England, they were playing aggressively to lose.

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Speaker 2: Remember when Bas McCollum was a bash brother Yes with

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Speaker 2: Chris Lynn for the heat for years ago, and now

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Speaker 2: his name or nickname per Se is in the dictionary.

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Speaker 5: In the dictionary in relation to English cricket.

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Speaker 1: That's right, ups and downs, ups and downs. Because the

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Speaker 1: world champions at one day cricket are out of the

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Speaker 1: current World Cup over in India after getting some humped.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling it sumped. I mean they lost to Australia

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Speaker 1: was a thumping because they finished last from first to last.

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Speaker 2: But that's the nuances of bas ball. You win some,

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Speaker 1: So we're adding that to the definition.

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Speaker 3: Call me.

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Speaker 5: The back of a golf cart for Glenn Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: God, this is a crazy heally with a broken finger

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Speaker 1: because of the dogs. Yes, and now you've got too

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Speaker 2: final stages of the tournament. And hey, the fact that

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Speaker 5: Ends, that never goes, is a good thing because.

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Speaker 2: At the start there were a lot of nassays for Australia.

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Speaker 2: At the moment standing.

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Speaker 1: Check ye don't play that tape headline two spinner for.

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Speaker 2: The best on Ground goes to Aaron Phillips at La Crows.

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Speaker 3: The winner at.

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Speaker 6: The twenty seventeen AFLW Best in faris around the times

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Speaker 1: The winner is with eleven votes Aaron Phillips.

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Speaker 7: I got to witness firsthand the impact that AFLW has had,

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Speaker 7: and not just female football but female sport in this

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Speaker 7: country and I cannot wait to run out there with

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Speaker 7: my teammates in front of the great fans one last time.

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Speaker 2: She should have formally changed her first name to and

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Speaker 2: the winner is to help MC's everywhere because Aaron Phillips.

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Speaker 2: I honestly think she pays the tax of not being

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Speaker 2: should she have achieved everything she has in AFLW in

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Speaker 2: the state that is obsessed with it. But she is

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Speaker 2: an absolute champion. And before AFLW it beggars believed that

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Speaker 2: she was just a basketball champion as well. She switched

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Speaker 2: to football following a decorated basketball career including two w

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Speaker 3: She's an Olympian.

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Speaker 2: What and then is the aflw's most decorated player with

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Speaker 2: three flags? Yeah three all Australian selections, two Club Best

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Speaker 2: give her everything. An absolute champion I will now call

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Speaker 2: her forever and the winner.

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Speaker 1: Is also to know. Round ten concluded over the weekend

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Speaker 1: final round for the home and away season for the AFLW.

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Speaker 1: It is finals footy time. Well done Adelaide Crows, We'll

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Speaker 1: call it. The winner is first club they are the

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Speaker 1: minor premiers. Then it was Melbourne North, Brisbane Sons, Cats

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Speaker 1: Bombers and the Swans. Sydney got in by the skin

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Speaker 3: He did not win a single game last year.

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Speaker 2: If there were mercy rules, they'd be lucky to play

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Speaker 3: It was tough.

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Speaker 2: They have recruited well, but my goodness in terms of

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Speaker 2: am so happy for the Swans to see him in

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Speaker 2: a final series.

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Speaker 1: Same so also the first time the Bombers are going

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Speaker 1: both of those clubs, and then there are second seasons

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Speaker 2: And also Maddie Presspark has been like, oh Essendon in finals,

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Speaker 2: that's uncomfortable for the men's team. She came out and

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Speaker 2: said that she was like, well look at this, what's

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Speaker 2: it been seven thousand days for you?

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Speaker 1: Also North top four.

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Speaker 5: Headline three opens up for the shot.

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Speaker 1: That's taking. Just when you think the Matildas have had

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Speaker 1: their time in the Sun, I remember that Mary Fowler

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Speaker 1: is the Sun. This strike was wonderful. That was in

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Speaker 1: our final qualifier in the second round of Olympic qualifiers

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Speaker 1: against Chinese type. The Matilda's won three nil. Samka and

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Speaker 1: Tamika Yellop also scored. I'm not even gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: them because Fowler, my god, she's good.

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Speaker 2: Mary Fowler is the son that Georgie's life offs around.

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Speaker 3: It's not even a stretch. It's not when she's happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy when she's sad.

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Speaker 2: But it is to see the girls continuing to go

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Speaker 2: from strength to strength. Unfortunately we have to wait till

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Speaker 2: February to see them take on you Bekistan in the

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Speaker 2: next round. That's date to be confirmed. Just have it here,

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Speaker 2: it'll be sold out.

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Speaker 3: It'll well a G.

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Speaker 1: But will they have the G available because they want

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Speaker 1: to be playing in February. There's another little lady who

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Speaker 1: my life revolves around, who happens to be in Melbourne

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Speaker 1: at that time, Miss Taylor Swift. And do you know

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Speaker 1: what's bizarre if you ever told me there'd be a

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Speaker 1: world that Taylor Swift and Mary Fowler would be in

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Speaker 2: Yes, that go viral because she happens to be dating.

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Speaker 2: And again it's made very very prominent news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just ken Nathan Cleary, So because Nathan Cleary of course,

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Speaker 1: panther star ye Clive Churchill medalist in potentially Yeah, fair

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Speaker 1: is being Liken to Travis Kelsey as in Lowell.

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Speaker 2: Look at these queens just taking these boys out for

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Speaker 2: a walk more Nathan Cleary's that' got the season. But

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Speaker 2: what it's time to be alive mortalized, hasn't heh?

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Speaker 1: My gosh, it's just it's so wonderful and seriously, like

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Speaker 1: just the Matilda's train, it just keeps gaining speed.

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Speaker 2: Any footage of Sam Kerr giving a small weeping child

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Speaker 2: a jersey is always going to make my heart flutter,

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Speaker 2: and there was plenty of that over this tournament.

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Speaker 1: I can be a small weeping child, Sam, where's my

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Speaker 2: You would be like, cool? Can you tell your friend Mary?

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Speaker 3: I say, hill right.

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Speaker 5: Do you know who isn't giving out jerseys at a

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Speaker 3: Of pack stadiums? The Wallabies?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bleak. It is bleak for Team Australia. How

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Speaker 2: How does Eddie Jones at many a press conference say

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Speaker 2: we don't have a coach of the Wallabies and nuance

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Speaker 3: We can't technically blame.

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Speaker 2: Him yet there's still a lot of great play out here,

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Speaker 2: but you can only promise and do so much.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to into the deep dove already, but we're

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Speaker 5: gonna go.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go. Growing up in the nineties and the

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Speaker 1: a girl from Queensland. Was it the same in w

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Speaker 1: A Jelmy for Wallabyes? The Wallabies?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, I think everyone did. We

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Speaker 2: went to the pubs and the Wallabies playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you knew about them right, they had that

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Speaker 1: Oh the Wallabies, of course, I get them, I see them,

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Speaker 1: I know them.

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Speaker 1: George Gregan, Oh, George Gregan, John Eels, house old names.

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Speaker 1: Their faces were plastered to every billboard and I think

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Speaker 1: because domestically rugby in Australia has always struggled. Yes, it

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Speaker 3: The twenty twenty seven World Cup is back in Australia.

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Speaker 2: You are taking our pride away. You are depleting a

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? And are you talking to Japan? Eddie?

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Speaker 8: I said, I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Mate.

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Speaker 7: Can you give all of his fans your absolute one

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Speaker 8: I've been working non stop since I've come here, and

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Speaker 2: None of this has aged well, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: That's the biggest ever loss at a World Cup.

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Speaker 1: Our biggest ever loss. That really did cement it. That

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Speaker 1: were officially out of the World Cup in the group stage.

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Speaker 1: October so four days later, this story that won't go away.

442
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: More reports that Eddie Jones, who we've just heard from there,

443
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: is committed to coaching Australia, shoring up on quitting the

444
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: Wallabies to join Japan.

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00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: I think that Australian sporting fans understand or rebuild. Yes,

446
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: we understand it. Sometimes you need to level out to

447
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: start again. And you see it across all coats that

448
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: have had great success and help. The AFL system is

449
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: built that you almost need to level out. Geelong somehow

450
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: have never but you are meant to bottom out to

451
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: start again. But I think that if Eddie Jones had

452
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: affronted the media and said, look, this World Cup isn't

453
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Speaker 2: going to be a successful one for us. We are

454
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Speaker 2: going to blood young talent with all eyes on the

455
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: next World Cup, that is a home World Cup for rugby,

456
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Speaker 2: so that we can get the Wallabies back on the map.

457
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: But I am your man. I am not going anywhere.

458
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: Believe me, trust me, follow me as players you go.

459
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: This is going to be pay now, gain later. As

460
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: the public you go. I get this, like we're rebuilding.

461
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: This is going to hurt for a bit. But instead

462
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Eddie Jones was saying we might win this World.

463
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: Cup because you know who doesn't appreciate being told that

464
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: things are going to be tough for a little while,

465
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: but don't worry, I'll come good. Sponsors, sponsors and corporate

466
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: money do not like that. And so for a sport

467
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: that is already in significant financial distress, that is something

468
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: that you know, Eddie Jones and Team Australia.

469
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Speaker 2: Just could not literally afford to do. The sponsors weren't

470
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Speaker 2: coming anyway, George, take the hit.

471
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Speaker 1: Take the hit and Reba, but can you take the

472
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Speaker 1: hit when part of your original deal at bringing Eddie

473
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Speaker 1: over in the first place, Hamish mcclennan, the chair of

474
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Speaker 1: Rugby Australia, had promised him hundreds of millions of dollars

475
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Speaker 1: of private equity that was going to be invested into

476
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Speaker 1: the game. You know where we still haven't seen hundreds

477
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars invested into the game because that

478
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: deal has been put on hold according to Hamish mcclennan.

479
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: So all of the resources there that were promised for

480
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Eddie at that time and for him to maintain the

481
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Speaker 1: party line of this is fine, we can win this.

482
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Speaker 1: Let's build some support for this really struggling team there.

483
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Speaker 2: And I think the thing that we know about Eddie Jones,

484
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: and again what we love about Eddie Jones, he is

485
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Speaker 2: incapable of just towing the line.

486
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Speaker 3: Yes.

487
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: So when he looked at his list for a World Cup,

488
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: instead of going, we can consolidate here, play safe, leave

489
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: these players in, he's incapable of playing it safe. So

490
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: that's not what we got. But would it lead to

491
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Speaker 2: future success. No one knows. And in an interview very

492
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Speaker 2: very recently with Simon Jordan, he describes Eddie as a

493
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Speaker 2: riddle wrapped in enigma. One of the more fair descriptions

494
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Speaker 2: that you'll ever see. But this interview I found so telling.

495
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: Firstly when he's quizzed about his commitment to Australia and

496
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Speaker 2: also his links to Japan.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 8: Well, there's no offer from Japan. Let's be clear about that.

499
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 8: There's no offer. There never has been an offer. I'm

500
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 8: always connected to Japan. I've got Japanese Japanese cage. Japan.

501
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 8: The president happens to be a close personal friend of mine.

502
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 8: So then there's been the rumors fly around, but there's

503
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 8: been no job offer. There's been nothing at all. My

504
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 8: commitment is to Australia. But Australia has got to be committed.

505
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: To me of course. But as far as that conversation

506
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: is concerned, that's where it is. And do you expect

507
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: to be given the tools that you require?

508
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 8: Well, Simon, you've been an owner. You know, as an

509
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 8: owner sometimes the circumstances changed, right, and contradiction is a

510
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 8: big part of all this. So the Australian Rugby Union

511
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 8: knows what.

512
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Speaker 9: They've got to do.

513
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know what they've got to do. And now

514
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 8: it's no matter whether we can meet.

515
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Speaker 4: But as far as you're taking the job, you were

516
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 4: very clear and unequivocal in what your expectations and they

517
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: were very clear and explicit in their understanding. So unless

518
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 4: they're going to pivot, then you're going to be coaching

519
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 4: Australia because they're going to give you the tools that

520
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: they need that you need. More importantly, a very.

521
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: Good summary, you know what, Georgie.

522
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: It is a great summary, because all of a sudden

523
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: you sit back, as Eddie Jones and you go, okay,

524
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: so upfront, you've been clear about what your expectations are.

525
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: You want to be given the tools to do this rebuild.

526
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: The riding is on the wall that those tools are

527
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: not there, and that is the rationale that Eddie gave

528
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: mere days after that interview when he stood down. He said,

529
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: it's because the resources that I need to complete this

530
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: rebuild aren't being met. And yes, he's probably talking to

531
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Speaker 2: the head of Japanese Rugby because he can see that

532
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 2: his tenure with the Wallabies isn't going to be sustainable,

533
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: or at.

534
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Speaker 1: Least he can't trust that it's going to be right.

535
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: In my mind, Eddie Jones has given Rugby Australia a

536
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: number of secret tears over this latest stint of his

537
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: coaching the Wallabies, his ten month stint.

538
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: Do you think all later through the press conferences, I

539
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: do not please.

540
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: I honestly do. And that little tests to see just

541
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: how Rugby Australia and in particular the chair Hamish mcclennan,

542
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: responds to those You know he says there's no resources.

543
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: Do resources appear? It would seem no, because yes, I

544
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: think we can say. Look, Eddie has never confirmed that

545
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: he has had interviews with japan publicly for the head

546
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: coaching job.

547
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: What do you mean He's been so direct.

548
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: We know that there is a job going at the

549
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: head of Japanese rugby and.

550
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: His dear friend that he speaks to regularly happens to

551
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: be the president.

552
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: And if you would believe a lot of this country's

553
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: leading rugby union journalists, which I am very very keen

554
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: to do, his second interview for the Japanese coaching role

555
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: will take place next month and.

556
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 5: He conveniently is going on a holiday to Japan.

557
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: It makes so many months. But but we've heard, you know,

558
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Eddie say that he's happy to take the shellacking, the

559
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: criticism that comes with, you know, such a poor performance,

560
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: such a poor public performance for the national team.

561
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: Does believe that? Do you believe that?

562
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

563
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: I do. But I also think it's because morally he

564
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: knows that it's not really his fault and that the

565
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: deal that he initially went into with this team, with

566
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: this sport hasn't been met. So I think he can

567
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: say that I'm happy to take all this criticism because

568
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: I know that I've upheld my end of the bargain

569
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: and there's deafening silence from Rugby Australia, which is what

570
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: we have seen.

571
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Speaker 5: And he thinks in the wash that that will be

572
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 5: found out.

573
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Speaker 1: Yes, but according to the chair Hamish McLennan. I mean,

574
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Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere.

575
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Speaker 9: I'm not a quitter. In my business career. I've worked

576
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 9: with a lot of people who've gone through incredible hardship,

577
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 9: and you know, I want to teach my kids and

578
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 9: my family that you'd get up, and so I'm really

579
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 9: passionate about solving it for Rugby.

580
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: There was a grab from a really awkward interview of

581
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: him arriving home from the Rugby World carp tail between

582
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: his legs, but you know, defiant, I'm not going anywhere. Reportedly,

583
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: his wife also went on to social media saying I'd

584
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: like to see all the critics out there try to

585
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: do my husband's job. It's impossible. But in that awkward interview,

586
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: McLennan goes on to say that Rugby is in a

587
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: far better position than it was three years ago when

588
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: he took over, and I just cannot see.

589
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: How you cannot gaslight us into believing that that is true.

590
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: And if you know Eddie now, if he does become

591
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: the head coach of Japan, I'm excited to hear more

592
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: interviews with him down the track about just what maybe

593
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: went down, what he was promised, what he did not

594
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: get because I think that Australian rugby has an idea

595
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: entity crisis going on. Does it want to be the

596
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: international game that it has called itself for its entire existence?

597
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: And if it does, how on earth do you get

598
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: the resources at a grassroots level to develop players that

599
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Australians want to care about. If you don't have the

600
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: domestic competition, a strong domestic competition for fans to grow

601
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: with and for you to build that popularity again, how

602
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: on earth does the international game even prosper I can't

603
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: see them turning things around.

604
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: They've got four years for a rebuild, but about four

605
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: minutes to find a senior coach. Because people, when there

606
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: is such a public quitting, people turn around and go, well,

607
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: who now, yeah, and what now?

608
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: And who volunteers a tribute for this? Shing?

609
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: You have locked someone in supposedly for five years and

610
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: they are ten months in and say not for me. A,

611
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: the job doesn't look very attractive. B. There is no

612
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: prodigy waiting in the wings.

613
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: No, that's it, and they'll have to turn to their

614
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: greats to try and lock in like a Stephen Larkham,

615
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: who's so well loved, who is so well loved because

616
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: he's from that nineties early two thousand's era of people

617
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: know yeah, it's it's Michael Check is also being discussed.

618
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: He is being discussed a former Wallaby's coach, but he's

619
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: having too much fun with Argentina. Yeah, look, I joke,

620
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: but it's so serious And for all people who genuinely

621
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: love this sport, I feel for you because it is

622
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: on its knees.

623
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: Watch this space.

624
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: But I think that we've hit where the Wallabies were,

625
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: where tragically they are now where we hope for them

626
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: to get back to, and the timeline they have to

627
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: grow from where is rock bottom? Do we need a

628
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: successful World Cup on home soil? How is that going

629
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: to happen without systemic change? And my god, is this

630
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: not the last we've heard from Eddy about it? And

631
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: let's all act really.

632
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Shocked when he becomes the head coach.

633
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: Ah fun fact, tell me, did you know that there

634
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: is a trend in American sports where a team wins

635
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: a certain championship and Champagne showers them the victors, which

636
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: I've always thought would just be so sticky, like why

637
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: why why why why?

638
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: When my brain immediately goes to F one yes when

639
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: they are on champagne showers, big on the champagne. I

640
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: also think of the Australian cricket team when they didn't

641
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: have champagne showers but um quadra because it beliefs and

642
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: I thought that was wonderful. Pack comans doing pat common things.

643
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: I thought that was great.

644
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really good.

645
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: Champagne showers usually.

646
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Usually massive in sport, usually synonymous with winning, and you're like, yes,

647
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: get the champagne, but did you know that that champagne

648
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: could be really dangerous.

649
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: Well, the Australian team can injure themselves in many scenarios.

650
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't trust them with a cork.

651
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Is that what I say? Apparently in twenty thirteen, a

652
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: Miami Heat player Ray Allen brought a pair of ski

653
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: goggles into the locker room after his team won the

654
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: NBA Finals to protect his eyes from the bubbly, which

655
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: I just think is the most NBA player thing to do,

656
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: but also the American confidence to be going in to

657
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: a final series been like, better get my goggles for

658
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: all that champagne we're going to be spraying later. This

659
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: is apparently legit a thing. So after he did that,

660
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: Brand saw a clear opportunity to cash in providing pairs

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Speaker 1: of goggles to a winning team so they can spray

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Speaker 1: as much champagne as they like without any risk of

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Speaker 1: any of that alcoholic beverage getting into their poor, poor, poor, poor,

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Speaker 1: poor precious eyes, and also protecting them from any stray hawks.

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Speaker 2: It does, dem I have had champagne in my eye,

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Speaker 2: but not from ceremonious more than the bottle went everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I went, Oh my god, I don't know what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Doing here, because I've once had to saber at an

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Speaker 2: event and I got it wrong and it went in

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Speaker 2: my eye. I had to saber a champagne bottle again,

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Speaker 2: things that are not relatablegies, but I did. I had

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Speaker 2: this massive sword and the champagne got of my eyes

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Speaker 2: and its stung.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I need a goggle.

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Speaker 1: You needed the goggles.

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Speaker 5: You needed the goggles, and this is raining.

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Speaker 1: He sought me out, just pain goggles, which does sound

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Speaker 1: like what is that thing roast tinted glasses, or if

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Speaker 1: you've got your beer goggles.

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Speaker 3: Beer goggles, rose colored.

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00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: Glasses, rose colored glasses, and now we've got champagne goggles. Yeah, legit.

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Speaker 1: I can't actually see this taking off though in your

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Speaker 1: favorite sport, tell me of f one because it just

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Speaker 1: wouldn't look cool enough.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not cheak enough, although ironically they would all ski.

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Speaker 1: Wealth.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for listening to do good sports

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Speaker 2: and iHeart production.

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Speaker 3: Do you love Eddie?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you love him?

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Speaker 3: Do you love him?

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Speaker 1: Do you hate him? I have to admit he is

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Speaker 1: both protagonist and antagonist and it's confusing.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like someone can look down the barrel

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Speaker 2: and light to your face and then change tunes or

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Speaker 2: do you understand his frustration?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And do you actually follow rugby union? And if you do,

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Speaker 1: tell me why? Hit us up at two good sports

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Speaker 1: podcasts on Instagram. I want to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: As always, don't be complicated and be a good sport