1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister. As we know yesterday Anthony Albanezi. Well, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: he announced an ambitious goal or an ambitious plan to 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: boost domestic manufacturing and supercharge Australia's economic economic growth, providing 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: federal aid for key industries. Now, it was a speech 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: at the Queensland Media Club and the Prime Minister said 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: that his government's going to introduce a Future Made in 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Australia Act in the coming months. There's legislation to combine 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: a package of new and existing initiatives to boost investment, 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: create jobs and seize opportunities. Now joining us on the 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: line right now is the Member for Solomon Luke, Osland. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke, Good morning Katie. How are you. 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: I hope to be in the studio with you this 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: morning that it ran out of time book. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get I will get to that in just 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: a moment where you have been. But hey, first off, 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: tell us it was a big announcement yesterday for all 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: of Australia and hopefully for regional Australia. What does Anthony 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Albanesi's announcement mean today for the Northern Territory. 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: It means a great deal, Codie, and it's obviously on 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: the back of the recent announcements when the Federal Cabinet, 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: Prime Minister and his senior ministers were in Darwin and 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: with the Northern Territory government six and a half billion 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: dollars worth of commitments to the territory and the growth 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: of the territory education, housing and industry. But what's happened 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: today and the territory will share in the benefits of this, 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: is that we're launched announced that are Made in Australia 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: Act will be legislated. Now. This is a bit like 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: the Inflation Reduction Act in the United States, which was 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: really about identifying that we can't afford to have everything 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: made overseas anymore. We know that supply chain can be 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: disrupted through pandemic, through conflict, through any number of ways. 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: So we need to make more things here and be 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: more sustainable ourselves and for our industries up here in 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: the territory. It really means that world leading territory born 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: projects like speed three D printing that your listeners would 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: be aware of that come out of Charles Dalen University, 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: but also the critical minerals projects that TIVAN and others 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: are embarking on. And also you're a rare earth with 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: that eight hundred million dollar loan that we announced when 40 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister was here a few weeks ago. But 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: that joins with an act that will underpin financial support 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: for Amphibian aerospace industries where we're going to make those 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: buying boats that your listeners would have also heard about. 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: But also we've got industries like Austray and Blue Cypress. 45 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: Now many people would have seen the Blue Cypress products 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: when you've been at one of Darwin or Palmerston's markets, 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: but that's manufacturing high ad products such as blue Cypress oil, 48 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: but also bush food, so many other things. Manufacturing. We 49 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: want to manufacture and make more things here in Australia 50 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: and I agree. 51 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people feel exactly the same. 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: They'll be thinking we need to grow our own, we 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: need to make our own, we need to be more 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: self sustainable. I think if COVID taught us anything it 55 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: was that that we do need to be more self sustainable. 56 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: I guess the issue some people are going to have 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: listening this morning, Luke, is there going to be wondering 58 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: is it going to make products more expensive? 59 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: What we've failed to do, I think is start this 60 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: process of making things in Australia again earlier. So we 61 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: have some catching up to do, which is why the 62 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: federal government needs to be participating and investing because, particularly 63 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: for us here in the territory, which is why federal 64 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: government support is so important for us here in the territory, 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: we haven't got this scale to be producing things to 66 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: be competitive with other countries crently, and that's exactly what 67 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: they did in the US. They just said, Look, the 68 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: federal government's got an important role to partner with industry 69 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: so that it becomes workable for industry to make things 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: here in Australia. Again, So that's an investment in not 71 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: only Australian jobs, but in our Australian economy. And the 72 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: Territorians will benefit as will Australians around the country with 73 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: that increased involvement of the government partnering with industry. 74 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I hope so. And you know, like I 75 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: really like the idea of this. I like the idea 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: of it being something that's happening in Australia. Look, one 77 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: of the areas that we do tend to punch above 78 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: our weight in the Northern Territory is when it comes 79 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: to Energy. We know that this Senate hearings have been 80 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: underway over the last couple of days. Some questioning whether 81 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: it's been a bit of a face considering that you know, 82 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: some within the gas industry weren't even invited along. I mean, 83 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: has it been a bit of a farce? 84 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: Katie. I was really disappointed that the rec fishes as 85 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: well weren't given the opportunity to go along. But they 86 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: will have an opportunity as well. Industry will have an 87 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: opportunity in future hearings of this inquiry. We've extended the 88 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: inquiry out precisely so that we can hear from more stakeholders. 89 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: Brother for the last couple of days is a whole 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: bunch of Territorians and local organizations are having their say. 91 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: It was pretty willing at different parts. I think there 92 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: is a fair bit of misinformation that is fighting around, 93 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: but also people that are worried because they're hearing that 94 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: there's going to be ramifications for them with this project 95 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: out at middle Arm. So I guess I just appreciate 96 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: the opportunity to say that if we're going to get 97 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: to a net zero future, middle Arm is critical. That's 98 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: why the federal government is backing it and teeming with 99 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: the NT government. And the idea of this inquiry is 100 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: to hear from scientists, experts, people in the community with 101 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: concerns so that we can address those concerns, so that 102 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: we can come up with proper measures for environmental management 103 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: that obviously concerns people. But these industries are some Cable 104 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: for example, which will be the world's largest solar farm. 105 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: To them, Middle arm is critical, but there's going to 106 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: be a variety of hydrogen critical minerals. We know from 107 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: talking to our partners in Japan and Career and other places, 108 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: that we need to replace coal as a way of 109 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: providing electricity with renewables and with gas as a transition 110 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: as a transition energy source. 111 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean taking that into account. What do you think then, 112 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: of the comments by like Lydia Thorpe saying that you 113 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: know that our local politicians accusing them of genocide of 114 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: indigenous people, you know, for supporting something like this. 115 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: It's just absolutely ridiculous. I mean Senator Thorpe, and and 116 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: I was there yesterday when she was questioning the Chief Minister, 117 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: and I thought it was inappropriate. You can have different 118 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: views to other people, but it doesn't mean that you 119 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: belittle them or connect them to atrocities such as genocide, 120 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: just for wanting to have participation in the process, process 121 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: that gives more information everyone about what is planned for 122 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: in Middle arm for example, what are the benefits, how 123 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: are the risks going to be managed? And to come 124 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: up from down south and say that we don't care 125 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: about the health of our communities, it was just atrocious, 126 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: atrocious behavior. But you know, Senator Thorpe is not a 127 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: representative of that whole committee one or the parliaments of 128 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: the opportunities here in Northern Australia for sustainable development. 129 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Look, something I want to ask about before I let 130 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: you go this morning. I understand that you have just 131 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: been at a service for an indigenous soldier who was 132 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: previously in an unmarked grave. 133 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah dead. Whig Coopp who was living down in our 134 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: Springs contacted me and just said that she found out 135 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: that her father was buried in Darwen. He was a 136 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: top end. He was born down the Big Rivers region 137 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: and lived in Darwen. He was working on a ELSI 138 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: station around Madarenka, living around there when he joined the 139 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: Army to defend Darwin in the North during the Second 140 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: World War, but then he rejoined when the Korean War 141 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: started and he served with distinction in the Korean War 142 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: for the Australian Army. He passed away in Darwin about 143 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: twenty years ago and he's laid in an un marked 144 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: grave all that time. So today was really special and 145 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: important for Deb and her family but also our veteran 146 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: and ADF community to finally have a plaque on his 147 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: grave that recognizes his service. 148 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: Oh, that is a really special and absolutely you know 149 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: that should have happened. Like what was the sentiment this morning? 150 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: It was wonderful. It's just all the things that make 151 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: you so proud, you know, to be living where we are, 152 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: to be a territory and to be an Australian. This 153 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: young Aboriginal man who worked on a station in the territory, 154 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: you know, signed up to defend the nation, signed up 155 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: to go overseas and to fight for freedom with our 156 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: Commonwealth allies against aggression you know in North Asia. And yeah, 157 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: it makes you proud that the Deb has been reunited 158 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: with dad and we've done it today out at Thorak 159 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: where of course we had Ray and Pam Palmer here 160 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 2: today as well for the service and there's some Scottie 161 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: Lies out here in Thorak as well, and it's just 162 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: a good reminder for all of us that we are 163 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: at Garrison Town. We are a town that loves those 164 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,359 Speaker 2: that support our community in the first responders and emergency services, 165 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: and we respect our veterans and those that serve our. 166 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Nation and we absolutely thank them for everything that they've 167 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: done as well for our nation. Those that are still 168 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,359 Speaker 1: with us and those that are no longer. It is incredible, 169 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: an incredible thing that they do. Luke Gosling always appreciate 170 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: your time. Mate, Thank you very much for having a 171 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: chat with us this morning. 172 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you.