1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: about their highs as well as they're lows, all in 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Yalloha, welcome 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: to the Potterroony. Today, we have got a guest that's 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: been on the goal list since day diart It's taken. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: I think this POD's been out for over three years now, 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: and you know me, I'm a real stickler for recording 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: in real life, So massive thank you to this guest, 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Tanya Hennessy. 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Mate, what a legend. Was literally here for like four days. 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Filming a TV show, hosting a TV show out of Disneyland, 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: Just like, look, if you can get to Disneyland, we 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: can totally record. And I was like, mate, I will 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: be there with bells on. 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: And it was her only day off, only day and 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: this absolute legend of a human sat down did the 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: pod with me. I hope you love. 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: This as much as I did, and do because she 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: just shared so much of herself, very open, very honest, 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: very vulnerable, very no bullshit, like no filters, no nothing. 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: What you see or in this case, here is what 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: you get. And such an incredible powerhouse of a human being. 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: I could list everything, but you know, comedian author, TV host, 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: radio host, got her own makeup, rage, her own podcast. 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Like just an incredible human being and very generous, like 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: right after the pod Tenya's like, come down to the 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Disney Hotel Paul with me and we went for a swim, 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: and just thank you so much Tanya, or one taking 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: the time, but also for taking me under your wing, 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: you know, like, very very cool human being and absolutely 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: on a tavy on the pod mate into the listener. 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: I really hope you love it. I know you well 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: enjoy Tanya Hennessy. Do you know how long I've been 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: wanting to have you on this podcast? 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: A while? Three years, mate, over three years, and I 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: every time you're like, yeah, I'm keen, I'm keen. I'm like, 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I can't do it on Zoo. 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: We've got to wait until it both in the same city. 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: But it turns out the same country now. 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I know we're in Anaheim. I made you come to me. 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: We're in Disneyland. We're at your Disneyland hotel. We've got 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: a beautiful view of the Disneyland car park. Mate, I've 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: got to say. And as soon as I got here 48 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: and I was unpacking the podcast, I was like, hang 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: on at these fireworks on the carpet. 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: There's five works in the carp There's a little mini 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Mickey's on the carpet, very cute. Key's on the bed. 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see ye bread oh 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: and if you turn this on behind something here, no fireworks. 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: There's literally like a bedtime lullaby and fairy lights in 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: your room and that's the Disney Castle behind. It's like 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: the BedHead. And then when you turn the TV on 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: you can only watch Disney movies. So I am ready 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: to leave. 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, and mate, thank you for sharing that, 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: by the way, saying it Disney. 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: No. 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Look, I love Disney Light, I love Disney. But I've 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: had your totally. You know what. 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: I was thinking about how to introduce you this morning, 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: and I was like, holy mackerel, and I mean, this 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: is the best way ever. 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: You are a mogul. Yeah, I'm a mogul. I'm a 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: mainly mainly sexy. Yeah, you're a sexy mogul. Totally, I'm 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: a sexy mogul. I tried that the other day with 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: when it's Star Wars Land or whatever. They were like 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: getting us to make lightsabers, and they were like, we've 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: got because you know they're very in character. We've got 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: the one for defense, We've got the one for art, 74 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: we've got the one for you know, the dark side. 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, do you have one for sexy 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: and they were like, Tanya, no, we're gonna have to 77 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: cut their amazing amazing. Yeah, I do a lot. 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: I do a lot, make comedian, author, TV host, radio, 79 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: so much radio. I didn't realize that that's where you 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: kind of cut your teeth in the media industry, right. 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: No one ever remembers that I don't radio. It's ten years, like, 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: don't you worry, We're gonna deep die and your make 83 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: up rage around with a beasting and poverty. Mate, how 84 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: it is. 85 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: That's why, like I say mogul, because it's you hustle, 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: you run your own show, and I just don't believe 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: in the word no. 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if someone says no, it makes me even 89 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: more like determined to do it. I love that though. 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: I love that, but I think as wow, like one 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: of the only people in Australia who has a makeup 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: lied let alone too and I don't even really wear it, 93 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: like do you know though, I really wanted to go 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: out and buy the nudy like the Croissant Power. Yes, Oh, 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: I've said to you on that one looks amazing and 96 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: it does have a touch of sparkling. Just flavor, yeah, flavor, 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's like a strawberry. I'll send it 98 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: to you. It's such a neutrals palette. Because I'm doing 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: my oment hair and makeup here for this Disney shoot. 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: We're actually doing a show called Luxury Escapes. I've been 101 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: seeing it all on your Instagram. Is this your first 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: travel I've never done it before, And so I'm doing 103 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: my own hair and makeup, and I tell you, my 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: own makeup is actually really coming in handy because it's bloody. 105 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: It's very like it's lasting sixteen hour days and the 106 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: waterproof was scarred. Can I just tell you for twelve 107 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: dollars available price, it's the best you'll ever It comes 108 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: off easy, but where's all the way through the day? 109 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh you are not so I have this weird so 110 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: this weird thing with you where I like am a 111 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: super fan. You should just know that straight out like eate, 112 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: but also where the exact same age year of the Ox? 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Do you know that you're at the end of the 114 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: Year of the Rabbit? 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: But OX sounds better, Well, it means we're quite stubborn, yep, 116 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: quite loyal and hard working and tenacious. 117 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get which. I feel that fits you. I 118 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: feel like fits you. I bet you We're gonna I 119 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't google and it'll be like, no, no, it's the 120 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Year of the Rabbit, Lola. You're no, You're way more 121 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: like you're star signing here, but you're you know stuff, 122 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: And I just go, oh, yep, you know, if someone 123 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: just mentions it in passing or if I'm in some 124 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: weird psychic's lair. Mate. Have you been to Berry. There's 125 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: a shopping Berry down the end and it's like, you know, 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: Tarot readings and you walk in there, yeah, and they're 127 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: just like, oh, the auras are here, Oh buy this Crystal. 128 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: You want a book? You're connected? And I'm like, yeah, 129 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: I know you're not. 130 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: Though it's hitting miss with with psychic readings. 131 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: I reckon, so I love them though it's a good time. 132 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: I had a medium on this podcast and I was like, 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: blew my socks off. It's a good one, like like literally. 134 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: Like, oh, yeah, your grandfather's here. His name's Fred. I 135 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: was like, that's when it's a good one. I was like, yep, 136 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: straight out of the gate, yep, straight out of the gate. 137 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: And he say, I mean, so's your nan on your 138 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: mom's side though, Dorothy like stray, yeah. 139 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: Not like, oh, you've got someone on the other side. 140 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Their name is starts with P or C or D. 141 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Is it stephen No, it's Fred Fred Fred Fred Stephenson. 142 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: The name he goes by up there is so specific. 143 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: Okay, there are so many things that I want to 144 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: talk to you about, like so many things. 145 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'm on a bed and I'm comfortable. I'm available 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: for you. Oh well, thank you. I'm so tired today 147 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: though I tell you these hours of this day. I 148 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: thought show would be more like how you see it 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: on Getaway, like Hi, I'm a land on a beach, 150 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: but like it's actually more like hi, my feet hurt, 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: where like yeah, it's just I went on because you 152 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: have to go on, Like we're on like three rides. 153 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: You have to go multiple times to get the shots. 154 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: Of course, yes, there's like one which is like it's 155 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: not the it's like actually amazing to go on the place. 156 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to light up. The rides 157 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: here are actually that Indiana Jones ride. They're so crazy, yeah, 158 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: and Peter Pan Yeah. But the Star Wars rides so 159 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: that I never like they are groundbreaking rides. The Rise, 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: it's called the Rise of the Resistance. It is the 161 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: most exceptional ride. I don't even know how it is. 162 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: It would have cost hundreds of millions of days, I 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: tell you, but like it's worth it. The thing I 164 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: like about Disneyland is like it's such a commitment to 165 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: bringing joy to people. It's the happiest place on earth, 166 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: isn't that? Like the tagliner it is, But I love that. 167 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: It's like we're going to spend all this money, and 168 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: yes it is for commercial profit, but it's for joy. 169 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: People are spending money on their joy and their creativity 170 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: or their you know, entertainment, and I love I love 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: that so much. But I always wanted to be a 172 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: TV presenter. I just never thought it would happen for me, 173 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: and I went to Nider to study presenting, and so 174 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: did I. By the way, did you Yeah? Yeah. We 175 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: went around the room. I remember the state, So I 176 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: was twenty five or no, been twenty three. Went around 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the room and there was one, you know, real lecturer 178 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: and he just said all the different types of people, 179 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: what we looked like present kids exactly, And they looked 180 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: at me and went, can't place you? And I left 181 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: the next week because I was like, if you can't 182 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: place me, then I can't spend this money to be here. 183 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: But is it true? Here we are doing a travel show, 184 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: luxury Escapes, and none of my course have done any presenting, 185 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: No one in my course. Really it sort of is 186 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: like the Testament to being yourself because no one else 187 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: can place you besides yourself. Is it true? Though? 188 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: You looked up to jewels Land and we're like stuff 189 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: that I'm going to send. I'm going to send good 190 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: old jewels Land my presenting renel. See what he has 191 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: to say? Yeah, and then you take me through what happened. 192 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: So I was like in Toowoomba doing radio and he 193 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: was on the Hit Network at the time doing like it. 194 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: It was like a scoop a show or I was 195 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: doing Fiefee and Jewels yes something, I remember that show. 196 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: I still oh, such a good show. And I finished 197 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: my presenting reel. I put it together into Womber again 198 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: even though I was on radio, and I was like, 199 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it to Jewels lie and because you 200 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: know his names in the system, So I sent it 201 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: and then I got an email back like five minutes later, going, hey, 202 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: can I call you? And I was like, oh shit. 203 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, he's gonna yell at me for you know, 204 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: using his email. But he called me and he's like, 205 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: you are very good, and I was like do. He's like, 206 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: you need to be doing more of this. He's like, 207 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: but but if I've got if, I'm honest with you, 208 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: because Jewels is like, you know, he's like ahead of 209 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: the ball game. You know, he invented, not invented, but 210 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: he definitely was on the forefront of social media and 211 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: influencer marketing. Yeah, in like twenty thirteen, you know, like 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: he is, his brain is so far forward. He's way underrated. Anyway. 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: He was like, Daniel, the show reels good, but you're 214 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: better at being yourself. You're trying to be somebody else. 215 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: What you need to do is do you like three 216 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: minute videos, be really funny, dig into like the minutia 217 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: of life, the more like authentic and real you can get. 218 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Don't do broad do niche it'll do really well. And 219 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: he goes and do I just like hang up and 220 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: say you're going to do it. He's like, I want 221 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: you to do it. Oh accountability love it? And I 222 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: did it. And then my first video I did at 223 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: one point one point three million. 224 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: Views and I sent him a screenshow overnight, wasn't it 225 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: like in one day? 226 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I said him screenshop going, oh my god, 227 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: thank you for the advice. And he called me again, 228 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: being like are you fucking kidding? He's like, I thought 229 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: it'd get like a couple of hundred, you know. So 230 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: I guess in a way, I do have a lot 231 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: to you know, to ode a Jules Land in a way, 232 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: like I think the thing is I give a lot 233 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: of advice to people and they don't listen. And do 234 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: you would you say that all the and they don't 235 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: listen all No, all the time. I give people advice 236 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: and they don't listen, and they give me excuses and 237 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, but it's hard like and that's what 238 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to stare. It's hard, but if you want it, 239 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: you do it. 240 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: But this is what I'm excited to talk to you 241 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: about being in the entertainment industry. And like the first 242 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: thing you asked me when I walked in to meet 243 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: you in the lobby, You're like, mate, how's la? And 244 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: I go, this is the city of resilience. Like you 245 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: have to be okay to hand or rejection, no after 246 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: no after, no after, and like being told the most 247 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: wild things and so like I love that, Like you 248 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: have been able to just be like, Okay, I've just 249 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: been told I don't fit as a TV presenter. 250 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: Okay, well what can I try to? 251 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: And like when you were saying like you wanted to 252 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: be an actor and that wasn't working for you, Like 253 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: you have this real resilience. Do you think that that's 254 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: just come from like straight out of the gate, being 255 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: like I want to work somewhere in media and I'm 256 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: just going to give everything a crack until something. 257 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Sticks, or like what came from like I really wanted 258 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: to tell stories. I think that's what it was, and 259 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: I just didn't know how. And so when I first 260 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: thought I was like, Oh, I'm going to be an actor. 261 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: That's how I'm going to tell the story. And I 262 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't really, I'm not really good 263 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: at this. I don't really. It's quite hard. It's very hard. 264 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: Acting is hard, and I don't know. The thing is 265 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: with acting, right, is that you have to do the 266 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: same line over and over again, and it's their long 267 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: days and you gotta like stand around and then all 268 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden it's like cry because your mom scene 269 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: your mom's dead, and but you've just had lunch and 270 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: you've been dicking around with the group. It's really hard, 271 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: like it's very mentally taxing. And look it sounds. Look 272 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this new or a nurse or something, 273 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, fuck, that's easy. And it is. 274 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: It is. It's just sort of like it's it's it's 275 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: just it's it's for me. I find acting really different. 276 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: No, no, no, it is, I call I say, unless you 277 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: figure like because there are so different schools of method. 278 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: Schools and like you could be doing. 279 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Chubby here or Miisner here, or you could be like 280 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: stuff and no, no, no, I'm training lunch. Like people have 281 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: just got all these different schools of thought, and if 282 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: you rock up on set and another actor is a 283 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: different style train to you and they have cast you, like, say, 284 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: there was a scene where like you and I had. 285 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: To play like ex lovers or something. 286 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: Some schools would be like, I have to cast you 287 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: as somebody that I don't like that has caused me 288 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: pain from my real life. 289 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: In my bar, I feel this pain and it is 290 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: really wild, mate. 291 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: And you'll be on set and like there's some classes 292 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: I've done here in LA and you've got to scream 293 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: at your scene partner how you would scream it, maybe 294 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: like a mom or something from your real life, and 295 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: it's really psychologically taxing. 296 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: So yep, I get it. 297 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: And I've heard you say like you started doing way 298 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: better in your career when you're like, stuff this, I'm 299 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: just gonna be my authentic self. 300 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super weird, super weird. Like you know. Because 301 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: then after it was be an Actor, I was like, 302 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: I'll go direct, and I read some directing at Union 303 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: and stuff. I was like, I don't like this either. 304 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: Directing is hard. Directing would be hard. It doesn't like 305 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I think what I was trying to find was not 306 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: so much throw something at the wall and hope it's stuck. 307 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: So much as like I was just going, what what 308 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: do I want to do. I'm going to I'm going 309 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: to just try every I'm going to find it, like, 310 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: go through it authentically and organically, just to figure out 311 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: which storytelling method is the one that I'm like, I 312 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: guess maybe I well, maybe I did throw her a 313 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: thing at the wall. 314 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 315 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: I just I didn't feel like that. But maybe telling 316 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: this a back it. 317 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: I am no, but even I've heard I've heard you 318 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: the interviewed before and talk about in radio you really 319 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: love short form, which is really like quick fits and 320 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: I love it, yeah, which for me, I'd be like, 321 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: oh my goodness, that's scary. And I have like deep 322 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: dived you and what you do stand up? Oh yeah, 323 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: Holy so I haven't. 324 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: There's no way. 325 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: Like I've just finished a six week course in improv 326 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: training and how was that? It was petrifying? But no, no, 327 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: I did it improv la. Oh yeah, but the teacher 328 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: was UCB trained. You should go to UCB too. 329 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: I've heard. Should I come back and we'll do it together? 330 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Do it, mate, I'll do it with you. You're going 331 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: to like clean the floor with me. No, no, definitely 332 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: not because I used to be is upright Citizens Brigade 333 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: and it's if you ever come to LA. They used 334 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: to have two but they only have one now. It's nuts. 335 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: You just go and between the hours of five and 336 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: ten or five and midnight. I think every hour on 337 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: the hour they have a different improv show. Like it's 338 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: it's the best improv you'll ever see this. Like some 339 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: nights there'll be like random celebrities for the one hour, 340 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: but you don't know who you're gonna get. Yeah, Kristin 341 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Wiggle all in for a thingy Will Ferrell, you know, 342 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: it's it's so cool. We just people you've seen in shows, 343 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: but like not one hundred percent sure of their name. Yeah. 344 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially here in LA because they were writing their 345 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: own shows. 346 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got into any celebs here. 347 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: So I was having coffee the other day and I 348 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: was sorry, I was lined up. I just picked my 349 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: coffee up and then it was the lead off Gray's 350 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: Anatomy lined up to. 351 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Get her coffee, Allen Ellen Ellen Pompeo. Correct, she look 352 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: gorge of course, wouldn't anyone talking to her? Or now 353 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: she's on her own head in the phone. Love it? 354 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: That was it? I feel like that was it. Don't 355 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: right into Larry King here once. Oh wow, it's back. 356 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: He's a goodie. You know. He owns a bagel shop 357 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. No, yeah, and I love bagels and 358 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: he loves bagels, and I like respect the shit out 359 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: of that so much so that he built a bagel 360 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: shop that has the New York water in it, because 361 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: that's like, apparently what makes really yeah, New York bagels amazing. 362 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: So we wanted to have that in LA and we 363 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: would in there to have bagels, and he walked in 364 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: one day and I was like, did you say anything, No, 365 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: because I doesn't want it, Like yeah, no, yeah, more 366 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: celebrities in Byron Bay. I gotta say, really, well, you 367 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: got all the hemis, you got all the hym really 368 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: rolling around one hundred percent. 369 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: I remember I get this text from my boyfriend is like, hey, 370 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: just went for a surf with Chris and I was like, 371 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: we don't. 372 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: Know any Oh my I got hemmies. 373 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, hey, hemmy boy, I've got so 374 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: many things I want to talk to you about, asking 375 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: you miscellaneous question. 376 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I love I love this. You can 377 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: someone just listen to that bit was like what you 378 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: fucking wink it? Oh, tell me about some improv. Is 379 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: it true you are a trained still walker? Yes? Legit 380 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: like did that at Luna Park? Yeah? I did it, 381 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: Like so different types of stilts. You've got like your 382 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: painter stilts, which are the ones that anyone can use, 383 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: But then you've got like what you call like traditional stilts, 384 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: which are the circles, which are the poles and are 385 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: far harder to walking because you can't stand still in them. 386 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: You have to keep transferring your weight. And the only 387 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: reason I got into still walking was because when I 388 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: was a clown at Luna Park, it was like twenty 389 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: five dollars an hour, but if you were a still 390 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: walker it was forty five, and I just wanted more money. 391 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm not even gidding. So I just like taught myself 392 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: out as well. My friend taught me and we did 393 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: a bit of training there, just like a make more money? 394 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Did you Is it true you fell on Russell I 395 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: did fall on Russell Crow because you do your training 396 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, sorry, Friday afternoon in the park because 397 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: you've got to get out because the surface is really bumpy, 398 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: got it, And still that's very difficult. Any surface is difficult, 399 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: but when it's slightly bumpy, you can sort of trip 400 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. And then when there's children in, you 401 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: know it's it's full and kids hold the stilts, so 402 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: you know you needed kind of a bit of training 403 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: and you know you fall down a lot on them, 404 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: which yeah, but yeah, So I was walking out and 405 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: tripped and I put my head because it was my 406 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: first time out in the park because you practice in 407 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: a different room. Yeah, carpet was my first time and 408 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: tripped on a little bit of ashphalt, put my hand 409 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: down the first head that I held, and I was 410 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: like a man with a rabbito's hat. And I was like, 411 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so sorry, and I pulled my 412 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: head away. I put my hand away, and he was 413 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: so he looks so mad, and I was like, I'm 414 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: so sorry, Russell Crow. So like celebrities come into Luna 415 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Park Friday afternoons, that's just like a weird time. Yeah 416 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: for good. Pharrell was there. I went to Therell's a winner. Guy. 417 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Sebastian got married at Luna Park when I was working there, 418 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: and I'm married at Luna park he did, yeah, and 419 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: I was I just wanted to go look at the venue. 420 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: But I was dressed as like a little clown. I 421 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: wasn't still walking that day, and I just I walked 422 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: up to have a look. Yeah, And he had a 423 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: really cool wedding and I interviewed him once and I 424 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, guy, you had a cool wedding. 425 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: And he's like what what And like to prove it 426 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: to him, I was like, you guys had cactuses instead 427 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: of flowers, and he's like, we we did. I was like, 428 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: I know. I said, go look at your wedding photos 429 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: because I'm in some of them. Oh no, yeah, yeah. 430 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: I was so random because they just got like some 431 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: random photos with guests with the clouds sort of thing 432 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: because I was up there. But I shouldn't have been. 433 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's such a good story. Yeah. And 434 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: it's just like you just never know who's ever gonna 435 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: do anything, so you should always be kind. I regardless 436 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: of whether or's that becomes something. I just think, like, 437 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: don't don't be a dig just straight up. 438 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: I've got to say I've been on shows before where 439 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: I've gone on as a guest or something and I've 440 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: seen like the way that the that someone is on camera, 441 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: and it's very different when the cameras aren't. 442 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: Rolling and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa Am I in 443 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: like a weird reality show? Right now? You've seen it too. 444 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: I hate it. 445 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: It's meant But this is why I'm so I feel 446 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: really lucky to be chatting to you because I was 447 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: listening to your pod. 448 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: Actually, you've got a couple of pods. Just you name 449 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: a pod I've got, Yeah, I've got it. But you 450 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: were talking about kind of being bullied online about like, oh, 451 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: you used to be might have been online, but you 452 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: were like you used to be more authentic. Yes, yeah. 453 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: Someone had to go at me about yeah, it used 454 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: to be more authentic, and I was like, I actually 455 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: feel like I've never been more authentic right now. It's 456 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: just that I've grown up on the internet. You know, 457 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: You've watched me grow and evolved, and I'm going through 458 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, fertility issues at the moment, and you share 459 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: so beautifully by the way, but it's like, how much 460 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: more do you want of me? Yeah? And also that 461 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: does come like I've learned the hard way where the 462 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: line is. And I also have learned that, like, I 463 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: don't know anyone anything and totally like what I do, 464 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: hopefully ohe them is entertainment. So sometimes I'm like, well, 465 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: I have to take a break for my own mental health, 466 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: and I encourage you to do that for yourself as well. 467 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: But when I come back, hopefully it's funny or interesting 468 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: or educational or just ridiculous or takes you out of 469 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: your life for ten minutes or I don't know, it's 470 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: just sort of like a I don't know. I can't 471 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: live on the internet. And I think that also makes 472 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: a difference between a creator and an influencer, is that 473 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't use my everyday life content. I create content 474 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: full stop. 475 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: So this is where like, and I don't want this 476 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: to come across the wrong way, but I wouldn't call 477 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: you an influencer even though that's one of the things 478 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: you do. 479 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: I hate it. Yeah, I don't think you are one. No, Well, 480 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: the thing is, yeah, like that, I think that is 481 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: a bit of the difference, is that influencers definitely use 482 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: their life to catapult content as opposed to creating it 483 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: just from scratch. Yeah, and I there's so much that 484 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: goes on in my life that no one has any 485 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: idea about. And that's the other thing is people like 486 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: you share so much, Mike. I don't even share like 487 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: even ten percent. 488 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you share something like super vulnerable like the 489 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: fertility staff, do you go what am I trying to say? 490 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: Does it kind of go through your mind where you like, 491 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: this might help other people? Because I know when I 492 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: was watching it, I was like, because we're the same age, 493 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh shit, like you know, this 494 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: is like making me feel okay about like looking at 495 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: options and stuff. But like it's something that you know, 496 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: like it's not that it's taboo, but it's kind of there's. 497 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: A lot of fear around. I don't know if you 498 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: feel that way. I think watching a lot of gen 499 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: Z content on TikTok has made me feel more like 500 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: wanting to be more empowered by my femininity femininity instead 501 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: of apologetic for my femininity. Yeah, big time, big time. 502 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: You know it's hard. You got mega bullied when you 503 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: started doing a radio showing camera, right, mega bullied sounds 504 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: like a pokemon, But I did get really like abused 505 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: straight up. But I like, the Internet's a hard one, 506 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, because I love it. I love the Internet, 507 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: but then I also freaking hate it. Yeah, I feel 508 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: like sometimes i'm so much like because I'm over here 509 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: in La the time difference, you know, and I'm working 510 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: so I'm not really on my phone, and I love it. Yeah, 511 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: but then I'm also addicted to it. Then I get 512 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: anxious when I've not been on it for too long 513 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I need to go catch up and 514 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: see what someone I haven't even known ever. But you're 515 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: super self aware. I feel like you're very so we're 516 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: human and I know that you're really open about this 517 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: and I'm super pro therapy. 518 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: It's my non negotiable in life into my sixth year, 519 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: and I'm obsessed. 520 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been seeing a therapist since I was nineteen. No, 521 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Do you win you whenever you move? You like, okay, 522 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: yeah the therapist. Yeah, it's a change. Sometimes a counselor 523 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: depends on what I want order. Sometimes a counsel is good. Yeah, 524 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: I just need like a random person who you don't know. 525 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: That non biased kind of like the thought process that's 526 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: not in like your head. 527 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Yes, has to just be like sometimes to prod or 528 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: ask questions. 529 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: I also think that I'm not saying this like as 530 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: a it's for creatives only. But if you're working in 531 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: industry where you're effectively self made, and you're the one 532 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: that if you don't work, then well the work's not 533 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: going to happen, and you're creatively driven. I just think 534 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: like having a theist. Like my boyfriend's also a creative. 535 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: He's a composer and sound engineering. He just got his 536 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: first I know. 537 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, boss, he's like stopped telling everybod I like, he 538 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: just got his first big TV composing. Oh and I'm 539 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: so pumped for him. And he's done quads for years. 540 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll ask you off the because I 541 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: know what it is, because that's really exciting. 542 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: But my but my our thing is because we're both creatives, 543 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: we both have a therapist, and people go, oh, is 544 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: there something wrong with your relationship that you both you're 545 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: both in therapy, and we're like, no, the opposite, Like 546 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: we can process so quick. 547 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: We like we're that's a generational thing, as you would 548 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: never find a gen Z who would ask you that question. Yeah, okay, 549 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: oor younger millennials. 550 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: You think it's because we're in the older bunch of millennials. 551 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just like the I don't know, 552 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I find it weird that someone would 553 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: even question you seeing a therapist. I think that's so weird. 554 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: And it does happen, does it. I'm so sorry. I'm like, 555 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: really weird that people, I feel like, criticize that kind 556 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: of thing. It's like, it's like, if you have a 557 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: broken leg, no one goes are you saying a doctor? 558 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: Like you will notice in America people will be like, oh, 559 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: I've got like four and yeah, I love that for them. 560 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm jealous major, I'm like, where do you get the money? 561 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: That therapy is expensive? It is, but it is so 562 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: and I'm so necessariou and it's almost like, Okay, the 563 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: suggestion before was like, if you've got a broken leg, 564 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: you see a doctor. I'm not saying you have to 565 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: have a broken brain or a broken system or a 566 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: broken you know whatever to see a therapist. I actually 567 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: think that some of the best therapy I've done is 568 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: in between life crisis, because you can process past shit, 569 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: or you can start to understand who you are as 570 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: a human being, or you just processes that aren't serving you. 571 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: You know. I used to get really mad all the time, 572 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: really mad at like the industry for asking me to 573 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: work for free or people not respecting my brand, but 574 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: I had to respect their brand and it just felt 575 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: very in my mind catastrophic, which it wasn't, but it 576 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: was impacting the work. And yeah, that's therapy helped me 577 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: sort of figure out why I do that and maybe 578 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: some better processes around behavior. I'm fully in it, like 579 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: screaming or anything. I was just like get mad and 580 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: be like, I don't understand what I have to respect 581 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: other people's brands, but they can shit all over my 582 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: personal brand totally. 583 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: But for me also, I'd always feel the same way 584 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: about the same things, So I was finding that. 585 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: I would be like competitive sort of yeah, I'd be like, oh. 586 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Fuck, you're doing that same thing. For me, A big 587 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: one was like oh fucking emotionally eating again because you 588 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: feel shit about that thing, because you actually feel rejection 589 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: and rejection feel shit. 590 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: See, and they're the weird like knowing yourself, well, yeah 591 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: type you just want to get out of your room. Yes, 592 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: So what's a therapy help you through with that? Like? What? 593 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: So now I'm more like, oh, hang on, I'm feeling 594 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: this thing, do you Yes? I really want to go 595 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: out and go to In and Out because we're in 596 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: American in and Out. It's freaking amazing, and the animal 597 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: fries are my favorite. And I'm a nutritionist and probably 598 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: shouldn't even be admitting that to people. 599 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: That are like, are you meant to be in health? 600 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, love it, but eighty twenty maye like fuck, 601 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: and also like you're a human being and I don't 602 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: want to see if I'm honors with you someone who's 603 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: like so unrealistic about health. I went to this fucking 604 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: health retreat and this bitch was like, guys, you shouldn't 605 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: be drinking coffee. I was like, unrealistic. I own a 606 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: coffee company. Yeah, unrealistic, green tea everyone, here's something wilder decaf. 607 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I wake up for ten years. 608 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: I woke up at three thirty am. I'm not gonna 609 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: have a green tea back. 610 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: We I need like five or six coffees to get 611 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: through the morns, get through the shit. 612 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: But I just think it's like, really, it's kind of 613 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: mean to suggest that, like and not understanding the audience. 614 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: If someone's like they're at a health retreat to try 615 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: and help themselves because they probably under high pressure, high stress, 616 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: have intense jobs to tell them that they're already failing 617 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: because they can't even you know, drink green tea as 618 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: a bare minimum because that's I'm. 619 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Just like read the room. Also green tea, do you 620 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: mean to know buzz whatsoever? Like green tea is great 621 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: for antioxidants, but I'm never drinking green tea because I'm like, oh, 622 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: I need to pick me up. 623 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: And also it's not like we're on methah, We're on caffeine, 624 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: like no one you know what I mean. You know, 625 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: it's not really had to do some coffee when you 626 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: get back to Australia. I love coffee. Now I'm in 627 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: the world's worst one, right you are? Actually you know 628 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: it's the Starbucks. Well that's kind of great. But is 629 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: it feeling good now? Well, I mean it's it's how 630 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: many calories are in this cup? Honestly A good A 631 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: good thousand? Do you reckon? I've walked so far just round. 632 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: So in Australia, I find it really easy to just 633 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: get like your regular Lata or whatever. But here it's 634 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: like pumpkin spice, this chip, dirty chat. But like there 635 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: are so many different flavors you can get here. It's 636 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: like a freaking It's like being at a theme park. 637 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: I got a flight from I get a coffee and 638 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I was like, just get a nice almond late and 639 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: she goes, what flavor and I was like, just coffee flavor. 640 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh no, we don't make it with 641 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: anything else. You can have coram, you can have vanilla coconut, 642 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: you can have java chip. And I was like, oh, 643 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: just just coffee. We don't do just coffee. And I 644 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: was like, God, love you guys over here. It's we 645 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: don't just think. If you quickly learn as an Aussie 646 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: in La, you quickly figure out like the places, the coffee. 647 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm a coffee nerd. 648 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: I've got to talk to you about books because I'm 649 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: also a writer too. 650 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: But how many books have you written? I've read? I 651 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: guess yeah, twenty two, no, no, no, last twelve eleven. 652 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: But why is the number two coming to me? Like 653 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: it's one and two. There's two numbers, so. 654 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: I reckon maybe I'm doing another one. Who knows, not yet, 655 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: but I'm just let's manifest that shit. Shall four four yes, Okay, 656 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: I really want to talk to you about drum roll please, 657 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: Stevie Louise saying that it's Stevie Luise and Spotlight please 658 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: it's Stemil Louise. I loved watching you on YouTube read 659 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: the first chapter. 660 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: I see this. 661 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: This could be a beautiful cartoon voice by you. 662 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, I would love to play the mother. The 663 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: mother is a you could totally do Stevie Loy's voice. 664 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: I want to give the opportunity to a kid. So 665 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: most adults do kids. Do you know that? Oh? Really? Yeah? 666 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: I think it's because it work longer hours. 667 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: And well that's what I learned in this course. I 668 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: did this animation voice course. I was like, I saw 669 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: someone go into the booth and do a six year 670 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: old webbe ye. 671 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: Like the niece of Scrooge McDuck or whatever. You probably 672 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: know these tales. 673 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was like someone our exact age, like 674 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: literally having a six year old voice, And I was like, 675 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: how do you get that skill set? 676 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: Seriously, I love watching people do voiceovers on the internet. 677 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite YouTube SA dives, just watching 678 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: people do like the guy who does the girl who 679 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: does ash ketch them on Pokemon. I'm going to listen, 680 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh listen, she does heaps and they're so talented. I'll 681 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: send you my favorite. 682 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: Bradley Cooper got a crush Rocket into the Galaxy right. 683 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: It's like, it's such a good gig if you can 684 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: get it. Apparently it's phenomenal. Pay too. I had no idea. 685 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: Now that's on my bucket list. 686 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: Mate, you're me both. Let's just anyone listening. Any next animation? 687 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: I interviewed Ursula Carlson. I love her. She's just done 688 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 2: an animated voice to play this little this little hippo, 689 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: and she was like, when the hippo was like running, 690 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: she's like, I'm in the booth running, and when it's 691 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: getting knocked over, she's like, I'm getting knocked over. She 692 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: said it was the funnest best thing that She's like. 693 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: She loved it so much, and I was like, oh 694 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: my god, I have to do this. 695 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: What what what's the show? 696 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: She couldn't say, but it's coming out soon, so as 697 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: soon as I know, I'll send it. 698 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: Please. How much fun? I feel like you're maybe good 699 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: at this girl, even if we're not. I just I 700 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: just want to do it. But no, I love Urshley Kels. 701 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: I've never met her. My dad is such a huge 702 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: fan of hers. The other day I was home and 703 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: he just go, like, you print you know, you get 704 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: your tickets and for some reason, old people print them. Yeah, 705 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: I still love printing them. Why are we I feel like, 706 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: even though we're the same age, that's a weird thing 707 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: to do. And also, why are the people you hanging 708 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: out with questioning your therapy? I like, am so mad 709 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: at older thirty six or something? 710 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: Have you noticed all my notes are also like handwritten, 711 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: write I hand right. 712 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: I love But maybe I'm a young thirty six. Yeah, 713 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: because my boyfriend's seventy years younger than I love this. 714 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: I've loved your videos. I'm seeing a cougar, yeah, because 715 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: he is like every time we want to celebrate, I think, 716 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: ooh better eight pm, and he goes clubbing and I'm like, 717 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he has such different 718 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: expectations and holidays. He's like, let's go scag and I'm like, 719 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: let's read a book and sit all kind of very 720 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: sick related. But he's But I think maybe because I 721 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: hang out like my sister's younger, my brother's younger, my 722 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: boyfriend's younger. You know, I'm on the internet. Internet content 723 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: TikTok all the time. I'm like an, yeah, but my 724 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: biggest fear is that I'm too old to make it. No, 725 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: so that might be where it comes in, but a 726 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: lot of Australia i'm you're not right. Before I came here, 727 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: I was in acting class in Australia and an actor 728 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: turned to me and said, I've heard that if you 729 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: go to LA over thirty and don't have a career 730 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: in Australia, you're never gonna make it. And I looked 731 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: at her and I said, I just can't afford to 732 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: think like that. But it's also like what place is 733 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: that coming from from? Of course right, but this is 734 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: totally but in the moment's bit you devil dog bitch? 735 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: Why what's your why? But but like it's so such 736 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: a like I have this thing with limiting beliefs, beliefs 737 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: and like I think, you know, my friend the other 738 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: day was like, oh, I'll never make that much money, 739 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: and I was like, why, yeah, man, I fully, I'm 740 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: fully I'm with you. One. Why yeah, why I'll never 741 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: have that Why You're already telling the universe you are 742 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: worthy of and it's limited. Never say that to the universe. 743 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: Never believe that, because if you believe it, you'll create it. 744 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: And I just think that's limiting beliefs are they drive 745 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: me and say if my mom doesn't, Mom's like, oh, 746 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: well I'm old now, so I can't do that. I'm like, yes, 747 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: you can. Why can't you. You're the one who's putting 748 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: the limitation on you, not like society, fuck everyone else. 749 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: You're the only one who can limit yourself totally. And 750 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: that's a scary thought too for a lot of people 751 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, if I'm the one in control 752 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: of the limiting thought and I can take the limit off, 753 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: then it's then if I don't make it happen, it's 754 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: on you know. 755 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, time, Like I do, think if you sit with 756 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: it and you're like, well, why can't I do this? 757 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: Or why do I feel like I'm told for it 758 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, and you sit with it, you 759 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: can see that there is a remedy for this cont 760 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 2: Like for me, like, I'm like, oh, okay, well I've 761 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: just got to study harder and do more training so 762 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: that my skill set makes me feel like I'm confident 763 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: in this place and I'm never going to question my age. 764 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Lola like people need to like look like people. Yeah, like, yeah, 765 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: they're not gonna They're not going to do like high 766 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: school musical with no teachers. Yeah they're not. Like that 767 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: was a real random, no high school musical. I know 768 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: you like the second one more than the first one. Yeah, 769 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: oh yeah. Did you audition for Australian Idol? I did 770 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: audition for Just Quietly. I did Helly's podcast. There was 771 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: so stard he for not I love him. He wrote 772 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: a quote for Stevie one like I just love him 773 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: and he goes to be because it was his podcast 774 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: is about movie? What did he get you to watch? 775 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: He goes, what's your favorite movie? And I go High 776 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: School Musical two? And he was like, couldn't tell if 777 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: I was kidding. What did you make your Reviewrris gum, 778 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good I've never seen it until last year. 779 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: Great soundtrack too, But it's unbelievable. Have I never seen 780 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: this is like unbelievably Like cinematically, it's extraordinary. The storytelling 781 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: is nuts. 782 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: It's it's like an og American but also like we're 783 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: sitting here in Disneyland. 784 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: I've never seen Star Wars. I've not seen Star Wars 785 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: either I met a light saber yesterday. Oh great, okay, great, yeah, 786 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: that makes me feel so much better. Right as I 787 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: was leaving the park yesterday, they were like, Americans are 788 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: so patriotic. I just burked just leaving, and they were 789 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: like ladies and gentlemen, the American man, thanks to America, 790 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: the American America, America loves American band with fries. It 791 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: was just like the sophomore junior junior year, senior prom. Yes, 792 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: do you know what though, like Donald's Burger King band. 793 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: It's so full, so patriotic. But I want to say, 794 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: I'm fully drinking the American aid, like I want to 795 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: buy a ranch in Montana. Legit, like the first money 796 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: an American film. I'm like, I'm going to buy a 797 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: ranch in Wyoming near Kanye or Mount Montana. I don't mind, 798 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: I'll take either. I love it. It's just I love 799 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: it too. I love it. I think it's cool that 800 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: they're so patriotic. 801 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 2: I think it's cool that older country too, like history, yes, 802 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 2: which like and they've got. 803 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: Like their own thing going on here, and I think 804 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: it's I don't know, they're very nice people to very optimistic, optimistic. 805 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: You come over you do an audition, They're like, you're amazing. 806 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: You do it at home and everyone's like, probably didn't 807 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: get that one, you know what I mean, Like they 808 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: just it's it's it's I like the entertainment industry over 809 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: here is I don't know, They've got more stuff going on. 810 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: It's more opportunity, it's more diverse, different people being told 811 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 1: the combo of both. Like I love being an Aussie 812 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: and Aussy, and I love being an Aussie in America. 813 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: I love boast of both worlds. It's easy for us 814 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: to do an American accent in a way, but it's 815 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: really hard for them to do an Australia. It's like 816 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: we actually have it, you know out Yeah, I know 817 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: what you mean, because I love Australia me too. I'd 818 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: love to live over here. But I love Sydney so much. 819 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: I love Newcastle, I love Woole and Gong, I love 820 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: I love Allbree Like I love regional Australia so much. 821 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: It's that because of the radio, like coming up in 822 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: the radio ranks and moving around. 823 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, and I just realized how amazing regional Australia is. 824 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: It's my greatest inspiration Stevie two is set in a Westfield. 825 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: Can we take a love? I love it so much 826 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: for you asked a question before I didn't answer. 827 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 2: No, Well, I just I'm so glad you said regional 828 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: because Tracy Harrison from Bathroom I did. 829 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I play this character. If you if you're like 830 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: just tuned in, why would you have tuned in midway? Wow? 831 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: By radio? Right? You know you're in radio. You reset 832 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: the interview three or four times, do you? 833 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 834 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: So if you're interviewing like Tom Cruise, not that I 835 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: ever have because I did radio and Canberra, but we 836 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: did get Jess Malboy forty eight times and Justice Cruise. 837 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: So calm down, everyone. We you know, if you're listening 838 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: in the car, people are tuning in at random times, 839 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: so in the middle of the interview, it might be like, 840 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: so anyway Jess Mailboy, oh wow, So you'll be like, oh, 841 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: that's so cool that you did that. I love that 842 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: Ess Mailboy. We're talking to her right now. Wow. Say okay, 843 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: well I haven't done that once, because podcasting is it's 844 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: a different skill set. Yeah, listen differently, and it's I mean, 845 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of taken over, isn't it. Yeah. So Tracy 846 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: is this character I do from Bathist And I went 847 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: to UNI and Bathist and during COVID, I got really 848 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: bored and I thought, wouldn't it be cool if I 849 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: could pay homage to all the towns I've lived in. 850 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: So I was going to do a hairdresser in Bathist 851 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: who's forty seven years old, recently divorced, with two children, 852 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: like two adult children, and it's just very very like 853 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: she loves mintce and she loves a cheese bowld. She's 854 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: got a friend called Lynn whose husband's buried the backyard, 855 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: and I loved just like three She's like very kol yeah, yeah, 856 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: it's just like insane. And then I lived in Griffith 857 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: and I thought it would be fun to do like 858 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: a butcher in griff Yeah. And then I lived into 859 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: Woomburo to Florist, and I was gonna do all these characters, 860 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: and then I kind of got really stuck on Tracy, 861 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: and then I didn't move past it. Also, then COVID 862 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 1: kind of finished and like, you know, oh, you've bought 863 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: me so much. I love Tracy's rumbles. Oh, Tracy's rumbles. 864 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: You know the cool thing about Tracy's rumbles is. It 865 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: was a sponsored video for Uber and getting a brand 866 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: to not only buy the Tracy Harrison experience, but like 867 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: back it, they had no edit notes. 868 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: Do you want my favorite go wild my favorite beers 869 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 2: where you're bought pouring the condensed milk and you're like 870 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: trying to stop yourself from having a scause it's like 871 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: pouring out. 872 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, my gosh, relatable. I remember 873 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: as a kid, you know, when we'd have no sugar 874 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: in the house, I would eat the sweet and condensed milk. 875 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: And one time, which is so gross, it's such a 876 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: fat kid thing too, when as a kid I sliced 877 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: my mouth open on the tiny Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, 878 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: And ever since then, I've been terrified of it. So 879 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: that was the first time I opened a can of 880 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: sweendense milk since. And oh but still I was like, 881 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: I could still go it. Even though the hospital split 882 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: my tongue open, I could still go it again. The 883 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: visual I'm getting right now, the split tongue on it 884 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: child mad. Sorry, there's a trigger warning there. So okay, 885 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: I've got I've got a quote of yours that I'm 886 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: going to read back to you. I hope it's a 887 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: good one. It's not like we're undies and change them regularly. 888 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: Well we just got the audiogram from that, so thank you. Okay. 889 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 2: So I love this so much because I've said this 890 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 2: about myself as a nutritionist and I've said this about 891 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 2: myself as an actor. 892 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: So I was always okay, I was okay. 893 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: I was always like, I'm not going to be the 894 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: best radio announcer, but I'm always going to be the 895 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 2: one that works the hardest to try and be the best. 896 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: That's true. And is that kind of your work ethic. 897 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: And I know you've got like. 898 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 2: A phenomenal work ethic, But I do think hard work 899 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: trump's talent. 900 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: I do think it too. I think you've got to 901 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: have think you got have both. But I know so 902 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: many talented people who aren't in the sphere that I 903 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: live in. And it's not because they're not like they're 904 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: better than me. It's just that I'm I will outwork them. 905 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: I love that. I love No. I love that you 906 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: say that. 907 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: I I it like when I've been listening to you 908 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: when you say it, I'm like, oh yes, because sometimes 909 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 2: I need you need to hear that. Because this industry 910 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 2: is an industry of rejection after rejection after no, you're 911 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: not good enough or yeah, And I think knowing that, okay, 912 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: well you're gonna hear nose. 913 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: A lot, and I still hear a lot of nose. 914 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: And I think there's this perception that like, oh, you know, 915 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: but you're this and you're that. We see you on 916 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: Instagram and you know you have a books and stuff, 917 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 1: and it's like yeah, but like some of them don't 918 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: so particularly well. And mate, you know that I've been 919 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: pitching TV shows and they get rejected so often, like 920 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: you know, make us management dump me, and you know, 921 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: like it's hard. It's it is hot, it is no, 922 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: it's so hot. So with all the not to keep going, 923 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many days that I just go, 924 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: I don't. I can't anymore. I'm so tired. I'm sick 925 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,959 Speaker 1: of the rejection. I'm sick of the hours. I'm sick 926 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: of the vulnerability. I'm sick of being on camera. I'm 927 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: so fat at the moment, I feel so big at 928 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: the moment. I don't want to be filmed, I don't 929 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: want to be looked at. I don't be funny today. 930 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I hate what's going on. Personally for me, 931 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: it's really hard to manage myself. But I I just 932 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: have this friggin' fire or this like tiny little voice 933 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: inside of me that just won't die. And I've tried 934 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: to put it out so many times and it just keeps. 935 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: It's just like it just can't be unlit. And I 936 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: wish it would sometimes I wish it would extinguish because 937 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: it would make my life easier. 938 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 2: But it's like in yoga, not to like get all 939 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: hippie dippy and please I love it, but there's this 940 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: word called dharma and it's like your life purpose and 941 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 2: that's what you're meant to come back like no matter 942 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: what you do. And like, I don't know if you 943 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: know any of my history. I got histories of eating disorders, 944 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: body this morphia, and I wouldn't even film. I'd be like, 945 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 2: fuck this some ten kilos more than what I want 946 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: to be. I know I look crap, and I know 947 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: it shows in my face, and then that shows more 948 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 2: on TV, and you know you look bigger on TV. 949 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes there are all these. 950 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: Things and then you know that then you're not confidence, 951 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: so you probably don't feel like you're gonna be presenting 952 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 2: as well and it's just like it's such a cycle, 953 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: such like it'll come back to third therapy because therapy 954 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: is the one thing that like has helped me get 955 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 2: out of my own way and put my own shit 956 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: aside to honor the work. And I just yeah, and 957 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 2: I think you are like so frigging phenomenal and I 958 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: love love your work ethic and I love that that 959 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: spark never goes out for you. 960 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: I really do. And maybe that's what I meant at 961 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: the beginning, you know how you were like, oh, you know, 962 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: did you just try a bunch of stuff and see 963 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: what's stuck? And I think I'm having trouble answering that 964 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: question because I don't know. But I think it's like 965 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,479 Speaker 1: maybe knowing that there's a word, that Dharama word you said. 966 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just that I was trying to honor the 967 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: Dhamer in me and kind of figure out what it 968 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: was because I reckon, I'm a new soul, you know 969 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: how there's like, you know how people have past lives. 970 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: I mean maybe I have, but I feel like an 971 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: idiot because I look like so many mistakes. I reckon, 972 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm the newest of souls, Like this is my first 973 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: time here like I wasn't. Yeah, yeah, because I'm. 974 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 2: Just so I always say to it when I was 975 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 2: like doing all I've done heaps of like spirits regression. 976 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done all the regression. And I'm like, oh, 977 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm an old soul. 978 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: What an ego to say that, Like, oh I must 979 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 2: be an old I used to tell people that I 980 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: was an old soul. 981 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: What an idiot? But do you not think it rings 982 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: true with everything we've been saying during this conversation that 983 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you seem like a like an older 984 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: thirty six years say, like a younger thirty six Is 985 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: it just because maybe you are an actual old soul 986 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: and I'm a new soul mate, But I don't know 987 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: to go down this es, but I do, like I 988 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: do make a lot of misteaks. No, no, no, And 989 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: I'm so glad do you say that? Because so do I? 990 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 2: And like I think I was saying to you're on 991 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 2: the elevator right up here, like I checked one of 992 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: the online submission forms I've submitted in ten weeks, one 993 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty auditions that haven't got one, and you're 994 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 2: like that's amazing, and I'm like, yeah, but that's a 995 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 2: lot of wreck. That's a lot of constant nos in 996 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 2: acting world. You don't even get to know you get donuthing. 997 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely another donuts is worse, actually, isn't it. I would 998 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: much rather expect we need a brunette. Thanks, you're too thin? Yeah, 999 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: I've never got that one. No, but get you're too young. 1000 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, thank you, Yeah that is great. 1001 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: I got too old since I've been here totally, so 1002 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 2: I think that's my Maybe I need to go for like. 1003 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: Older characters because if you go for a grandma too young, yeah, 1004 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you go for a you know, 1005 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: Cadava elderly Kadava too young the way it is, Colgine, No, 1006 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: but like what, like, what's your dream role? Honestly not 1007 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: a word of a lie. 1008 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 2: And it's like, it's crazy to even say this because 1009 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: it's never existed for a female ever. 1010 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: This is why you say it, This is why you 1011 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: do it. Dharma, Dama, dama. 1012 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 2: Right, Steve Colbert hosting a late night show in Americas, right, 1013 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 2: female has never done it. 1014 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: Well, Lily Sing did it really? Yeah, she's a YouTuber, 1015 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: but she did late late and I've been watching it 1016 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: over here because I've been finishing. I'm gonna watch it. 1017 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: Lily said, yeah, I don't know if okay, but she's 1018 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, queer poc. Yeah, amazing comedian YouTuber and. 1019 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 2: She's the thing you need to be, Like, you need 1020 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: to be a comedian or have the chops that you've got. 1021 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 2: You've got these amazing comedic bones that I'm like. 1022 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: I'm funny sometimes yeah, but at all time. But I 1023 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,479 Speaker 1: don't think, you know, you've just got your own gifts. 1024 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: So maybe your show is like a late night show 1025 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: that's got ur essence in it. So maybe it's like 1026 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: more of like an Oprah at night, not you know, 1027 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: something like or more you know, like the world will 1028 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: change eventually from all having all the men and white 1029 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: men and and maybe we'll have you know, a more 1030 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: female centric there's a bit softer and a bit more 1031 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 1: you know, Solt. Yeah, And like I don't think that 1032 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 1: that's a wild dream. I think that that's a cool 1033 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: thing to want, mate, and you should. I'm running at it. 1034 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm running at it. I'm running. Yeah, you run, keep 1035 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 1: run running. Someone told me once and they actually passed away. 1036 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: Couple years back, he said to me when I was fourteen. 1037 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: He said, I said, should I pick a teacher because 1038 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: I want to be a drama teacher? Yeah? And he 1039 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: goes no, because it's your backup and you'll fall on 1040 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: the backup. But if you don't have a backup, you've 1041 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: got nowhere to fall. I love so like, do you know? 1042 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,919 Speaker 2: I said to my therapist and this is I've still 1043 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 2: love my nutrition and all the health stuff I've done, 1044 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: but I said to him, like, probably to use into therapy. 1045 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, had an epiphany and he's like yeah. 1046 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 2: I was like, I've been leaving my backup career. I 1047 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 2: was like, I always wanted to be an actor and 1048 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 2: work in television, like literally anchoring yep. And every time 1049 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 2: I'd go for an anchoring audition in Australia, they're like, 1050 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, you're the health segment girl. 1051 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: You're a segment girl. It's really hard to rebrand. I'm 1052 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: currently trying to rebrand as a lingerie model and not kidding, 1053 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,479 Speaker 1: I would never have you ever even seen my neck, 1054 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: like like I hate showing my pop. 1055 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: I have done a nude photo. Yeah, photo shared for 1056 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 2: Women's Health. Oh my god, that's so full blown nude Starkers, 1057 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 2: Wait are you open legged, and I'm like, no, I wasn't. 1058 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's porn, isn't it. 1059 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: It is? I guess, yeah, So is it tasteful? It was? 1060 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was it was hard and THEO was sexy? 1061 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 2: Or is it more like I probably was going for it, 1062 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 2: but I'm so nervous. 1063 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: I was going for sexy, but I would have been noticed. 1064 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 2: I did have a tiny little nude colored oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1065 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 2: would have done the same. But other than that, you've 1066 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: got someone lathering up and the whole crew was male, 1067 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, I had a wind blower on 1068 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 2: my head. 1069 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: That's hot. Oh I bet you looked amazing. When's it 1070 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: coming out? It's feed, It's feed and go years ago. 1071 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: I'll send you a snap. I'll send you a nude 1072 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: shot after this saying nude, I worry for you. It's like, 1073 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: you're gone on, how ustrailiing? Can I sound over here? No? 1074 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: My boyfriend will be like trying to like sexy face 1075 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 2: times with me. I was like, oh, you're going to 1076 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: get nude, and he's like, you always ruined the rue. 1077 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: His erection just goes. 1078 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 2: Matt is going to love you, by the way, for 1079 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 2: saying that. Okay, final final question. I could talk to 1080 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 2: you all day. This is your final Yes, ma'am. Do 1081 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 2: you ever experience imposter syndrome? And if so, how the 1082 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: f do you deal with it every day? 1083 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: Like I was just said a Starbucks and the chick 1084 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: recognized me, and I just like almost had a full 1085 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: blown meltdown because I was like, by you're presy. She 1086 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: gave me, she gave me some egg bites, and she 1087 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: gave me that drink over there. It's like a like 1088 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: some sort of refresher healthy you know what I mean? 1089 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: And something is fluo, you go health, then put that 1090 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: inside of your body. Yeah. So, yeah, I do all 1091 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: the time because during COVID I did a lot of 1092 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: TV shows. I did like celebrity letters and Numbers and 1093 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: I did. I did five episodes of that, like Dyslexic 1094 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: was really hard, number Dyslexic gotcha? And then I did 1095 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: the hundred with Andy Lee. I did? What else did 1096 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: I do? I did you did? I know that was 1097 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: in lockdown, but yeah I did. I'm a slab. Yeah, 1098 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: I did all these TV shows. It's really strange to 1099 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: be sitting next to like Lee asked me to do 1100 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: his show and I've listening to Andy Leeve my whole life, 1101 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: and then I've got to be on stage and be 1102 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: funny with him. And he's saying my name and my 1103 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: name's on a screen and you know, it's where I'm 1104 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: seeing next to Whipper and like the radio. I'm a 1105 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: radio person, right, so I'm sitting next to me very 1106 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: funny too, He's so funny. I did a pilot co 1107 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: hosting with him, did you. Yeah. 1108 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 2: I was so nervous I go there. I fucking loved it. 1109 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 2: But I've done it with Limo too. I've done a 1110 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 2: lot of talent comedian guys and Lima was like, let's 1111 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: throw the script out and I was like, oh, okay, 1112 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 2: I'd learned it, could we not. 1113 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: Let's have a conversation about it. Yeah, And it was 1114 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: just wild to, you know, sort of sit next to 1115 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 1: these two, like, in my opinion, gods of radio equal 1116 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, And to be the only girl 1117 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: on the stage is kind of intimidating and to be like, 1118 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: remember why you're there, and you're like, am I funny? 1119 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: What am I doing here? And you know, I was 1120 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: like I don't know how to feel in those situations. 1121 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: And like the episode before was like, like, so Hamish 1122 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: was there, Becky Lucas, who I think is fierce as there, 1123 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they were all in the green room 1124 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: and I just didn't feel like I could go in there, 1125 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: so I sat by myself in the wardrobe room. No. Yeah, 1126 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: I eventually went in, but I had to like genuinely 1127 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: psych myself up to get in there because I was like, 1128 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: my god, I love these guys and I don't want 1129 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: a fangirl them. 1130 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 2: What about after like after something like that, and then 1131 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 2: you kind of like on a bit of behind and 1132 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I just did that thing that was 1133 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 2: really scary and I had imposter syndrome, and yeah, I 1134 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 2: think the only way to work through it is just to. 1135 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: Is to kind of downplay it is the only way 1136 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: I know how to do it. So just to like pretend, 1137 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: pretend like you belong there, and pretend like it's easy, 1138 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: or find an excuse to go into that room. Oh wow. 1139 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you guys have to read us 1140 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: in here. I think that's how I got into the 1141 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: room because I just I wanted to be included because 1142 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: I knew that if I wasn't, it would make my 1143 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: job on stage harder, of course, and it also to 1144 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: them might read as Tania doesn't want to be with us, 1145 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: Tanya thinks she's better us, which is like the dying 1146 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: yeah going, I don't deserve to be you know, But 1147 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: it's also like I do deserve to be here. I'm 1148 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: thirty six years old, I've worked really hard, I am funny, 1149 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 1: i am different, I have a really unique voice. I'm 1150 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: a woman, and I'm a you know, plus sized woman. 1151 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 1: I need to be on this stage. And so sometimes 1152 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: you do it for more, more things than just you. 1153 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: And I think if you ever do something in service 1154 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: to someone else, it is always the push to get 1155 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: you to do something. So I you know, if someone goes, oh, 1156 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: you're nervous for your stand up sho it's like fucking oath. 1157 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: I was nervous, But I don't want my audience to 1158 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: know I'm nervous, because then they're having an uncomfortable experience. 1159 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,919 Speaker 1: What can I do in service to you to make 1160 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: Then you stop thinking about yourself and you start thinking 1161 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: about what you're doing and what it's for. If I'm nervous, 1162 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going good comedy for the audience. I'm nervous, 1163 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm not creating a comfortable environment for you to laugh. Totally. 1164 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like the arts, that's totally. I think 1165 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: that's a really solid piece of advice to think about 1166 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: the people you're doing it for and not yourself. 1167 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 2: Well, I think the art is all for service. It's 1168 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 2: all to create a change in someone's heart. Really, Like again, 1169 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: not use that though. 1170 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: This industry is so ego driven and so like and 1171 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: how you look and me. But if you forget all 1172 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,720 Speaker 1: of that and go, what's this for? So sometimes sometimes 1173 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: I really care about what I'm wearing. Sometimes I really 1174 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: don't because I'm like, I don't. I want to strip 1175 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: it all back and just be funny and just be 1176 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: good and give something great to this audience. And this 1177 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: fruit through is fucking distracting me, oh big time. 1178 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: If someone was listening to this and now and they're like, 1179 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 2: oh my god, like I want to be doing what 1180 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 2: you're doing, Like I. 1181 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: Yes, stop stop getting in your own way. Hi, by 1182 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 1: the way, get out of your own way. And he's 1183 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: a great quote. This is an adult Swartznegger quote. I 1184 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: love this. I love this. He says. He says, you 1185 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: can either do it. You either do it. Sorry, that 1186 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,280 Speaker 1: was the fucking what. I know, you either have results 1187 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: or here we go. Yeah, you either have results or excuses, 1188 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: not both, So choose Wisely, that was about exercise, but 1189 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: I applied that to my career and I live by 1190 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: that quote. I love it. I love it, I love it. 1191 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: I want to look back on my life and go, 1192 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: here's a bunch of reasons that I didn't do something. 1193 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 2: I I'm fully with you. I don't believe in having regret. 1194 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 2: I don't neither do I. 1195 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: I really think it's just wasteful. 1196 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 2: Big time and out what like what is your dama 1197 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,839 Speaker 2: doesn't need to be the same as mine, but like 1198 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 2: if we crosspaths fucking cool, you know, like I just 1199 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 2: it's to. 1200 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: Be like amazing parents, a beautiful like artists or you know, 1201 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: live in service to people who are disabled or need care. 1202 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 1: And it's like you were everyone is so important and 1203 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: everything that you do is so great. But it's like 1204 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: comparison is going to kill you one hundred percent, one 1205 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: hundred million percent. You just got to do. 1206 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 2: You work hard, live by your Arnold schwartznigger quote, which. 1207 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 1: Is, yeah, you can either have results or excuses, not both, 1208 00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: So choose, mate, You're amazing the local Ted Talk. Actually, yeah, 1209 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: big time. I should do it. Why haven't I been 1210 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: asked to do a Ted Talk? You should totally do one. 1211 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 1: Put it out there now, that'll give I'll think about 1212 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: that for a couple of days. Now they give you 1213 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: in a good zaf time like I think it's exactly 1214 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: seven minutes or something. It's a time to speech. Yeah, 1215 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: is it? 1216 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you would nail it. Tell me if you do, 1217 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: I'll come. I'll come watch you. 1218 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: What if it's somewhere really obscure, Oh my god, it's 1219 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: the duble IRSL if I'm in the country. No, no, no, 1220 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: you said you'd come. Don't put caveats on it. You 1221 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: said you'd be there. You're like you finally got the 1222 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: pilot for your teav You're like Lola's you know, sexy 1223 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: hour at one am, and I'm like, hey, I got 1224 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: that that Ted talk at double RSL. You said you'd come, 1225 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: and You're like, what's the it's the If I don't 1226 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: do this, my dream won't come from. Yeah, but you 1227 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: did say you'd come. 1228 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 2: So we'll get like a live cross on my late 1229 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 2: night show for you. So that, Oh mate, thank you 1230 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 2: so much. You're absolutely wonderful. 1231 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: No, literally, thank you. You're the one who's like, come 1232 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: to Anaheim for this. I'd do it again and a half, 1233 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: would you. How's the drive, mate? It took about an 1234 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: hour twenty hour. It's not too bad. It's not too bad. 1235 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: It's worth it for you. Oh thank you? My friends? 1236 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: Is heading your boyfriend's listeningng? Wait? What all right? We 1237 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: are in a bed? We are, let's just see where 1238 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: the go. Sign me up? Sorry to sign me up? Fuck? Bye, 1239 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: bye bye. 1240 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1241 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 1242 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 1243 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo lollaberry. This potty my word for podcast 1244 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: is available on all streaming platforms. 1245 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 2: I'd love it if you could subscribe Rape and Me 1246 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 2: and of course spread the lave.