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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda's gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: On aired interview.

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Speaker 3: I've read a book that a friend put me onto,

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Speaker 3: made run red book start that again. It was written

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Speaker 3: by Mary someone or other, But it was about looking

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Speaker 3: at the very human side of the early space program,

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Speaker 3: where the hours, the years. It went into how they

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Speaker 3: could get the flag to flap, that went into how

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Speaker 3: to use the toilets, went into the how we've spent

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Speaker 3: so long evolving to live on Earth, how hard it

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Speaker 3: is to get us to live in space, but looked

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Speaker 3: very basically at the science it took and on a

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Speaker 3: very human level, it was absolutely fascinating. It wasn't about

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Speaker 3: the heroism of the journey. It was about the heroism

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Speaker 3: of the individuals working out how to poo in a bag,

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Speaker 3: how to wash your hair, how to blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: It was so interesting. There's so much that's gone into this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of challenges in space just to

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Speaker 2: live up there that have actually been really impactful for

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Speaker 2: helping us to live more sustainably on Earth. A lot

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Speaker 2: of closed loop life support systems of different ways we're

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Speaker 2: learning about how to rest our body and to sleep

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Speaker 2: better in those kind of confined environments, and because of

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Speaker 2: that there's a lot of cross research between Antarctic explorers

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Speaker 2: and sub mariners and those in space as well, which

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Speaker 2: is really interesting. I've been down to the Australian Antarctic

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Speaker 2: Division recently to exchange with them.

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Speaker 1: As anyone said, it's good sleeping up there. Do they

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Speaker 1: get a good night's sleep in space?

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Speaker 2: Is that a or is it a terrible night's sleep?

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Speaker 2: It's quite tough to sleep in space. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: how people get comfort from a weighted blanket. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of the opposites because there's no gravity, so a lot

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Speaker 2: of astronauts they like to take up like big elastic

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Speaker 2: bands and wrap it around themselves or curl in the corner. Apparently, though,

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Speaker 2: if you know, you pull someone out when they're asleep

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Speaker 2: and lay them in the middle of a module, you

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Speaker 2: can position them so when they wake up they can't

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Speaker 2: really move away from it. So there's a few tricks

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Speaker 2: astronauts to play on each other to you know, keep

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Speaker 2: good team bonding up there.

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Speaker 3: If they say that space gave us tang you know

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Speaker 3: that powdered orange juice and vill crow rollers and the

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Speaker 3: big things have come.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing every time you use a cordless drill,

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Speaker 2: it's thanks to the Apollo program, the Space program. They

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Speaker 2: didn't invent it, but they gave it a use case.

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Speaker 2: They called it through the commercial application. Same with solar

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Speaker 2: cells people have all over their roofs. Yeah, they were invented,

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Speaker 2: not by the Space program, but they're given a use case.

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Speaker 1: I had had to adapt the develop absolutely, Catherine. We'd

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Speaker 1: love to talk to you all day. Run out of time,

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Speaker 1: talk to you again. Thank you, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and good luck.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.