1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Good morning, Katie. How are you? Yeah? 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: Good, thank you? Sorry, just me having some technical issues 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: there now, David, sometimes I forget to press the right buttons. Now, 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: I know that you oversee subway stores at Marra and 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: also bake well, and you're really calling on members of 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory files government right now to do more 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: about the damage that's been caused by kids after having 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: another glass panel smashed at your Marara location. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: Was that overnight? 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: I yes, it was. You had about midnight last night, 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: and it comes about a week or so after we 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: had two other panels smashed in after. Yeah, we had 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: a few kids in the store tryning of skilled drinks 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: and once a member of public had sort of confronted 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: these kids, they pulled out knives and scissors and started 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: throwing chairs around and threw some scooters at the glass. 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, it has not been not been a good 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: week for me. 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: That sounds bloody frightening. It is. 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I wasn't there at the time, but 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: it makes my blood boil. When when I heard the news, 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, I just stopped what I was doing to 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: make sure the staff were okay. You know, that's obviously 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: the priority. The staff and the customers one hundred percent. 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just makes me furious to know that, 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, these kids had ankle bracelets on, they had 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: issues in the past, you know, they recently, they they 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't have even you know, they should have been a 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: lot more monitored than what they were. 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, mate, firstly, can I ask in the incident where 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: there was knives and scissors, was that overnight or was 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: that the one last week? 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: No, that was the one. It was a week or 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: so ago. Now, yeah, it was sort of five pm 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, just when we start building for you know, 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: dinner rush. There's kids about people picking up groceries. You know, 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a very busy store. 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Wow, are your staff okay? Following on from. 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: That, they are, yeah, obviously very shaken. You know, a 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: couple of them now have some concerns about working at 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: night and staffing issues that are terrible as it is. 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: And now you know, understandably too those stuff, you know, 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be working there at night time, and 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: thank god it's a busy store. We generally have three 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: people on, you know, mostly for safety too. But I 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: understand them completely that they wouldn't want to work at 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: night time. 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I'd be frightened as well. That's unbelievable now you 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: said that, you know, it appears like it was kids 50 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: who obviously you know, it's kids who've obviously been involved 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: in these incidents. Is that the case from last night 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: as well? 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: We're not too sure yet. We're waiting on CCTV from 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: the shopping center that more covers the outside of those windows, 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: because they didn't actually get in the building, so my 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: cameras sort of start where the building is. But we 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: are upgrading the system as well now to incorporate outside. 58 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's far as we know, it's we believe 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: it's the same kids. But I I don't know. 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: David, what happened then last night? So did they smash 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: the window panes? 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just smashed the window panes, no intention really 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: to get in. I don't believe they used the rock 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: last night. You know, quite thick glass. We're talking six 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: millimeters six safety glass, double glazed with pinting on the inside, 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: so not not easy feat to smash that up. Yeah, So, 67 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: and that just that was last night around midnight. But 68 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: they didn't manage to get in, which which was good. 69 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: But the thing that these kids seem to be after 70 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: is always just to do the damage they once they 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: if they get inside the store, they very rarely take 72 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: anything they've We've never had money stolen. Ever, we don't 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: leave any money around. They might take a couple of 74 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: drinks on the odd occasion out of the fridge, but 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: their main motivator is just to disroy, you know, and 76 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: make inconvenience to people. It's and it's just getting very 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: very tiring, you know, waking up at four o'clock in 78 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the morning and send these calls when when I'm you know, 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing large, large numbers of hours just to get 80 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: things by and keep subways open for Darlin and. 81 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely, but then also you know the damage. You know, 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: it's an emotional stress, but there is also the damage 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: that's being caused as well. 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: How much do you reckon you know that this is. 85 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: Cost well, I mean obviously we took every precaution when 86 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: we had those because glass bottles were thrown around the 87 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: store on that on that day a week or so ago, yep, 88 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: So you know, obviously we had to throw out all 89 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: the food. Yeah, we had to close the store while 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: we cleaned up. We couldn't allow people into the restaurant 91 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: with broken glass everywhere. So adding that cost in as well, 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: we're looking at between thirteen and fifteen thousand dollars, you know, total, 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: including last night's damage. And it's getting to the point 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: where insurance companies you know, won't be talking to us anymore. 95 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: We won't be able to ensure it anymore, and we 96 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: can't stay much longer, if that's okay? 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: No, David, correct me if I'm wrong. 98 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: You know, I may have my shopping centers confused, But 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: are you talking about the shopping center where the member 100 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: for Sanders and Kate Warden's office is actually located as well? 101 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Correct? So two shots down inside the actual center behind 102 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: shutters as well, that's since recently fitted shutters. Yeah, so 103 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: that's on the card for us. It's the fit shutters 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: as well. But no, she's protected in there, so she's okay. 105 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: Have you had any discussion with her with the local 106 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: member about what's gone on? And you know what's the 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: response made? 108 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: I haven't. No. I would have thought that she would have, 109 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, come forward, especially being so close, she would 110 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: have approached me, you know, to sort of talk about it, 111 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: and but no, I haven't. I haven't heard anything that. 112 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I haven't made any connection either. 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: Have you been in contact with the Chief Finister's office 114 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: at this point in time, you know, following on from 115 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: what's going on, or do you intend. 116 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: To I did speak to a gentleman on Friday, I 117 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: can't remember his name now. He was going to call 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: me and meet me there on Monday, which was yesterday. However, 119 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything back, and I waited for a 120 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: couple of hours nobody showed. 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: So from what I can gather, you know, on what 122 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: you'd posted on social media as well, it does seem 123 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: as though you're at your wits end. You know, it's 124 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: actually been something that's happened now a few times. You're 125 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: certainly not speaking to the media lightly or frivolously, but 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: you really it sounds like you're not too sure what 127 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: to do now at this point. 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: That's it. I don't know what to do. I mean, 129 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: I look after six s Boy stores here in Darlin, 130 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: and you know we're soon to open a seventh, and 131 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: we're on the fence now about whether we should be 132 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: doing that or pulling out of Darwin entirely. It's very 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: uncertain times. We don't particularly want to be here. 134 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh, mate, I hope that you don't pull out of 135 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: Darwin because I know that, you know, there are so 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: many territories that obviously come to you guys for their lunch, 137 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: their dinner, and there's lots of locals that you employ 138 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: as well, which I think is so incredibly important. The 139 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: Chief Minister's been out this morning making a few announcements, 140 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: you know. In what she has said is focused on 141 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: creating safer communities and initiatives aimed at preventing crime and 142 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: anti social behavior. One of those does include some changes 143 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: to this Beer Secure their be Secure upgrades. David, I 144 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: don't know whether you've heard much about the announcement that's 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: been made this morning, but do you feel as oh, 146 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: it's going to make much of a difference. 147 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, Katie, I actually haven't. I haven't seen 148 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: that yet. I've heard that it was some things were announced, 149 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure what's what's involves yet. 150 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Mate. For you, you know, I know that there are a 151 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: lot of businesses that are very frustrated right now when 152 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: it comes to the issues that we're seeing in the community. 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: What is your message for the government this morning. 154 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I think there's just got to be a better solution. 155 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's quite obvious now after four or five 156 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: years i've been in Dulin that things aren't working, and 157 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I just it's probably a lot more complicated 158 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: than this, but I mean we've got staff shortages all 159 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: over the place. We've got you know, fruit pickers and 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of issues with staffing with them, and I 161 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: just think it'd be quite an obvious solution, you know, 162 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: to send them out to places like that where they 163 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: can't cause any damage. They can't you know, they have 164 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: to learn correct work ethics, you know. But again there 165 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: must be a reason. I'm not in politics. It mustn't 166 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: be that simple. But I just think that something needs 167 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: to be done differently. If you keep doing the same 168 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: thing over and over, that's the definition of insanity, isn't it. 169 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: Well, And if it's not working, you know, you sort 170 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: of go, what can we start doing a bit differently? 171 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: We've got to think outside the box exactly, right, mate. 172 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time this morning. I'm sorry to 173 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: hear what's happened to you guys, not just last night, 174 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: but certainly you know, in the week's leading up as well, 175 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: particularly that incident where your staff were threatened with knives 176 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: and scissors. That is incredibly frightening. Yeah, look, we'll keep 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: onto the issue. I hope that we can see some 178 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: change in this space. 179 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And I mean we've had issues all over stores. 180 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: We've had these kids pushcash for just as off counters. 181 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: In Gateway Shopping Center, we've had people jumping the counter 182 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: stealing drinks. And Gateway Shopping Center we've had you know, 183 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: we just had an incident yesterday afternoon where a girl 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: had a scooter sort of swung at her. One of 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: my staff had a scooter swung at her because she 186 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: was interrupting them stealing drinks, you know, from the Bakewell store. 187 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: And there's issues all over. The only places we don't 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: have issues are cooler Linger and it's probably because they 189 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: can't get out there. 190 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a real worry, there is no doubt 191 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: about it. And something really does need to change. Particularly 192 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about enticing people to the Northern 193 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: Territory to live. We're trying to get people to move 194 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: here for work for various different industries. You know, if 195 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: you don't feel safe and if you don't feel like 196 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: you can run a business in a safe manner. It 197 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 2: makes it really difficult to try to build the population 198 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: and to try and get people here to fill jobs. 199 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. I mean if I was looking, I've 200 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: moved up here four years ago, and if I knew 201 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: what was going on up here, I would have stayed 202 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: in Queensland. 203 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, David, I feel for you, mate. I really appreciate 204 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: you speaking to me this morning. Yeah, thank you so 205 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: much for your time. 206 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. 207 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: No problems, Thanks Katie. 208 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: Thanks David. That is David. 209 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: Listenmore from He oversees subway stores of course at Marra 210 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: and also bake well six of them, he said, due 211 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: to open a seventh and they have been really grappling 212 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: with this issue, as you've just heard from Davi.