1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Joining us live in the studio, as he's done every 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: day this week. Mike Besselink, executive general manager of corp 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Operations from Power and Water. Good morning to you, Mike. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and thanks for having me again. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh my, we are happy to have you on the show. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: And I tell you what, I was a very happy 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: person yesterday when my power came back on. I know 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: that Power and Water doing an awesome job at getting 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: as many customers as possible back online. How many have 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: now been restored? 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 3: Well, at the moment, we've got about fourteen hundred customers 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: who are still off supply, so from the nineteen and 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: a half thousand that we had at the beginning of 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: the week, it's been an awesome effort by the entire 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: team to get there. I think also, Katie, just to 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: sort of reiterate our process in this, is that after 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: we actually after the storm subsided and we could get out, 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: as we've been telling people, we had to go out 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: and have a look and see what damage was done 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 3: in order to work out where we had to put 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: our restoration efforts. The first phase of that then is 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: to actually get the main supplies back on. 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: So this is the sort of. 24 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: If you remember my analogy, it's the extension lead getting 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: that powered up back to the appliances in the backyard. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: But that was phase one. Phase two is then getting 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: as much of the low voltage network as we can on. 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: So that comes from that high voltage to the low 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: voltage network, and we've now transitioned to phase three, which 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: is there are a number of individual customers who have 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: got damage to their premises which we need to start 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: to have a look at. We still have two jobs 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: that were actually doing which are what we could call 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 3: major construction jobs, so they're at Gunpoint and Lee Point Road. 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: But those two we should have finished today, so that 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: will be all of the major infrastructure stuff finished. 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: So, Mike, to anybody out there listening this morning who 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: maybe still doesn't have their power on, we're talking houses 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: that were like mine where they had a line, you know, 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: that runs from the actual power water infrastructure, so the 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: power water lines to their house, and that line came 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: down or was damaged. What steps do they need to 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: take to make sure that when power and water comes around, 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: that power can go straight back on. Because I know 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: that that's sort of really important. 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think so while we've got the power 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: running down the street. It's coming from those lines to 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: your house. There's a couple of things that can have 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: gone wrong there. One is is that that line could 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: have been damaged with a tree falling over, but it 51 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: also could have some damage within the property itself if 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: there was some electrical problem when the line happened. From 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: where we are, we will be able to replace the 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: line from the pole to your house. Now as long 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: as the connection at the house is safe. Now, if 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 3: that is damaged in any way, and we do want 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: people to go out and have a little and see 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: if there's any damage to that connection, which we call 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: the mains connection box or MCB they call it. It's 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: where the line comes over and hooks on and the 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: wires go in for your house. If that is damaged 62 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: in any way, we cannot connect the power because it 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: will be unsafe. You will be required to get an electrician, 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: a Northern Territory licensed electrician, to repair that damage first, 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: and they will supply the householder with a certificate of compliance. Now, 66 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: there are two ways that happens. One is they register 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 3: it with NT work Safe and electronically comes through to us. 68 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: There is potentially that some people will issue that as 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: a piece of paper and if you've got that, you 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: put it in your meter box so you know where 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: it is. So when our people come around, they've actually 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: got that certificate of compliance. 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: And I did all that. We made sure that we'd 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: done all that on Sunday because I knew that that 75 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: was going to need to happen post the last cyclone 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: we had Marcus, when somebody up the road sort of 77 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: didn't and it meant that for some reason, powers stayed 78 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: off for quite a long period of time. So to 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: anybody out there listening this morning, I know, if your 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: powers back on, you may not care too much, but 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: I tell you what, if your power is still off, 82 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that when those crews come around, 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: you've done everything that you need to so that you 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: can get the power back on. 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: There would be nothing worse, I understand. And if a 86 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: crew turns up and they tell you that they cannot 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: connect because it's not safe to do so, that would 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: just be a horrible feeling for everybody, including our crews, 89 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: because they don't want to be anything and then have 90 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: to say sorry, I'm not going to put you back 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: onto power. 92 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: So really it is very, very. 93 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: Important that those steps are done and we have those 94 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: things that we can connect. 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: When we get help. 96 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: And if anybody's listening this morning and they're you know, 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: they need a bit more advice, they can call through 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: to Power and water. I would imagine that the number 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: of calls coming through is probably minimized significantly over the 100 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: last couple of days as everybody comes online. 101 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is important because as we've been restoring power, 102 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: people may have rung in early to say I haven't 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: power on, and that would have been because the whole area, 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: the whole street, the whole suburb didn't have power on. 105 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: As that's restored, we still need to know if there 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: are individuals who don't have power. So don't be shy 107 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: to ring in again to say I haven't got my 108 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: power on, because that's you know, we don't want it 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: to have been lost in the bulk of the earlier one. 110 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, Mike, fourteen hundred people without power, Still, how 111 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: soon do you reckon they're going to be back online? 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: So look, it's going to depend a little bit on 113 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: you know, how things are going with other people. Where 114 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: As people probably know we've been working shift crews twenty 115 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: four hours to do these things. You know, there's some 116 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: jobs that are quick where it might be that we 117 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: just need to put some fuses back in or do 118 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: some things like that. Some are a little bit more complex, 119 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: so it's going to depend a little bit on the 120 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: time of the jobs. So look, we're pushing as hard 121 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: as we can to get these on as quickly as 122 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: we possibly can. 123 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: And you've got your crews here from Catherine Well, I 124 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: met a few of them yesterday. Shout out to the 125 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Ktown crew, but you've also got some from Tenant Creek 126 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: as I understand it, and also Alice Springs. 127 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: US Springs, Yeah, and unfortunately Alice Springs yesterday I had 128 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: a few little yeah storms through it of their own, 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: but they got through all of those things themselves. So 130 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: we were thinking for a little time that we both 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: have to go and rescue. 132 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: Them as well, but luckily not. Luckily not. 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, tell me, I know, one of the big 134 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: questions we're getting at the moment. I don't know whether 135 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: it's something that you can answer or whether we need 136 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: to go to the government. But in the information that 137 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 1: came out yesterday about people potentially receiving that two hundred 138 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars if their power has been out for 139 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: more than seventy two hours. As I understand, they've been 140 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: told that if they go out to Marara, out to 141 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: the center out there, they have to sort of be 142 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: able to say, yes, my power's been out for seventy 143 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: two hours, and then they've got to provide that confirmation 144 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: of the outage and then power and water will vary. 145 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: How does that happen? 146 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: Well, so we've actually gone through looking at the lists 147 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: of people and when power has come back on again. 148 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: So we've had a look through those. 149 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's a little bit difficult to say when 150 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: the actual power went off because it could be in 151 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: a whole range, but we know when it's come back on, 152 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: so we can sort of see from when things sort 153 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: of started happening to when it's come back on. Does 154 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: that equal seventy two hours or not or greater. So 155 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: we've got people out there at the moment who have 156 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: got these lists, and look, if anybody's in a position 157 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: where they say, look, I don't agree with you, just 158 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: let us know and then we can have another look 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: through all those sorts of things. 160 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: So I've go front up out there to the Marari 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Indoors Stadium at the moment, power and waters, they're going 162 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: to be able to get that info straight away. 163 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: Yes, so we've got people out there. They've got lists 164 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: of people or lists of outages and sort of the 165 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: seventy two hour times that we've estimated out there. So yeah, 166 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 3: so there's people there and we've got there in every 167 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: half an hour to say. 168 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: Whether we need more people or not or whatever. 169 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: So if if it does get very busy out there, 170 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: we'll get some more people out there to help. 171 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Do you know if that payment is per person or 172 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: per household? 173 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going it's right, we can one. Yeah, yeah, 174 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: that's right. We can find out. 175 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: We'll ask the government that what I just thought you 176 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: may have you may have known off the top of 177 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: your head. That is a okay, Mike, tell me how 178 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: the staff tracking at the moment, because I would imagine 179 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: it's been a bloody busy few days and some of 180 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: them may not have power either. 181 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, we still have some people who don't 182 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: have power. They're busily waiting for their time to get 183 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: happening as well. But look all around the office, their 184 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: smiley faces. I think the people are just really pleased 185 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: whenever they can get another person back on supply. They 186 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: know what it's like. This is what they live and breath, Katie. 187 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: They are there to get the power out to people 188 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: and make sure that they got electricity. They love their job, 189 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: they know their job. This is the sort of stuff 190 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: that they do. 191 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: Good on them. 192 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I know it's been a massive effort, you know, as 193 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: somebody who I know thinks she'd been working in the 194 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: call center, you know, when she doesn't work there usually 195 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: to help out, and that's something that people are doing, 196 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, everybody pulling up their sleeves and trying to 197 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: help each other to try and help as many people 198 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: as possible to get that power back on. So look, 199 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: I know it's been probably a tough few days for 200 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: you as well. I really appreciate that you continue to 201 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: front up every day and tell us what's going on, 202 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: despite the fact that you are no doubt busy as 203 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: so we'll keep catching up with you probably till everyone's 204 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: got their power on. Mike. 205 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: That's lovely to be here, and thank you again, Kadie. 206 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, I really appreciate it. Thanks so much. 207 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: Mike,