1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Famili's podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers now. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: And in an instant there is clarity. I am doing 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: the very best I can. 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, My Mum 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and Dad. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: Good Day. This is doctor Justin Colson and the author 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 3: of a bunch of books about helping families to be happy. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: And Kylie who's here with me, my wife and podcast 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: partner co hosts were the parents of six kids, six daughters. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: Did you have a nice Mother's Day? 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 4: You know? 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: One of the things that I love about Mother's Day 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: is being able to reflect and celebrate the mother hearts 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: in my life. We talk about our mothers specifically on 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: Mother's Day, but for lots of us, Mother's Day can 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: be a little bit tricky, and there are plenty of 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: women out there who aren't even mothers, who actually have 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: played a huge part in either mothering me or mothering 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: my children. And I love to celebrate that mother heart, 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: that nurturing response that has blessed my life for our 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: family's life. As a result, it's also a tricky day. 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: There are people who have lost their mum and it's 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: got to be so hard to have a day that's 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: all about celebrating mothers and not have your mom there 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: to be able to tell her how hard it must 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: be to not be able to say I love your 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: mum because Mum's not there. But it's still a special day, 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: and it's a day of wonderful reflection. I know that 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: I really felt for my mum. You heard in the 31 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: podcast last week when I was talking to my mom 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: just how much I love my grandma, how much I 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: loved Mum's mum. And Mother's Day is a really hard 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: day for my mum now because her mum's not with us. 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: She left us seven or so years ago. 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: She was such an integral part of our whole family. Yeah, 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, all of us miss her. 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: I loved to listening to our parents, our mum's on 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: the podcast last week. Your mum did a great job. 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: She was so nervous, but she shared so beautifully. 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: She made me out to be an angel. I was 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: not an angel. My sisters like to remind me of 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: all the things I did not do right, but but 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: I did. I loved I loved reflecting with her, and 45 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: I loved reflecting on the lessons that I've learned as 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: a result of my experiences. 47 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: Growing up with her and hearing my mum talk about 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: what it was like to raise a rotten teenage boy 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: like me, and she was so kind and charitable in 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: the way. But both of our moms, as they've gotten 51 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: older and they're reflecting all what it was like to 52 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: raise kids, you can hear the softness and the kindness. 53 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that it was always there when we 54 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: were being raised, but as they've gotten older, it seems 55 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: like the older you get, the more you value those 56 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: attributes of goodness and gentleness and kindness and compassion, softness, charity, 57 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: that the love was there. I was really struck by 58 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: my mum being so devastated about my squad swimming when 59 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: I would nick off with my friends and go surfing. 60 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: Dad was getting up at four point thirty in the morning, 61 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: dropping me at the pool and that I'm wagging swimming 62 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: that he's paying for and getting up at four thirty 63 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: to get me to so that I can go for 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: a surf. 65 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: But what was so beautiful about that and so sad 66 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: in the same breath was this acknowledgment that it wasn't 67 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: actually that that upset her. It was that she that 68 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: she had dealt with you harshly right, that her punishment 69 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: was unjust. 70 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: If you missed those conversations, by the way, just go 71 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: back through your podcast feed. Last Tuesday and last Thursday, 72 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: we interviewed our moms in preparation for Mother's Day. Speaking 73 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: of Mother's Day, it's something that I didn't give you 74 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: yesterday that I've had our production team working on. 75 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Was. 76 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: I did a really just a fun, gentle, little interview 77 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: with our six daughters about what it's like to have 78 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: you as their mum. 79 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Oh, are you ready for this? 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: No, let's have a listener. 81 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: My name's Emily. I'm seventh. My name is Lily and 82 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm eleven years old. 83 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: I'm Annie and I'm thirteen. 84 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 5: My name is Ella and I am currently seventeen years old. 85 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 6: Abbian, I'm eighteen years old. My name is Chanelle and 86 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 6: I am twenty one years old. 87 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: How are you and Mum the same? 88 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: You like giving each other huggies, We both loved doing 89 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: arts and crafts, we love cooking together, and we both 90 00:03:59,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: love reading. 91 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: Mum's always looking for ways to sev and I feel 92 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: like when I'm asked to do things, I'll do it, 93 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: and then I'll always ask if I can do more. 94 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: When she was my age, she was very mature for age, 95 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: and I like to think that I'm pretty mature for 96 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: my age. 97 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: I reckon me and Mum are the same because we 98 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 5: both look out for people and make serving others a priority. 99 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 7: My mum has a love for her family and compassion 100 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 7: and kindness for people. 101 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 6: You can ask my husband, But I think that we 102 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 6: have similar attributes with patience and kindness. But she still 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: tops the cake. But she's got more experience and more 104 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 6: years on me, so I'm sure I'll catch up. 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: What's something that Mum always says to you? 106 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: We all have a choice, Annie, what are you going 107 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: to choose? 108 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Ah? 109 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 5: Well, we have a family motto which is choose the 110 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: riot belt and trust in God with all our might, 111 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 5: which is one of the things that she says nearly 112 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: every single day. Another one is I love you. 113 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: But my personal. 114 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 5: Favorite is I have problems with my body and how 115 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 5: I look, And I tell Mama I just don't really 116 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 5: feel pretty today. 117 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: She'll go, oh, Ella, stop it. You've got the best 118 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: bomb ever. Don't say that stuff. Your bomb is awesome. 119 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: I love you. Clean up your room. Lily, it's a 120 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: pig sty. You're amazing. No matter what anyone says, trust. 121 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 7: In the timing, It'll all work out the way it's 122 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 7: supposed to. 123 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 6: It's not necessarily she says something. But whether she was 124 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 6: at a concert or I was giving a talk or 125 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 6: anything like that, I would spot her in the crowd 126 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 6: and she would put her hand up to her elobe 127 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 6: and she would just hold it and give it a 128 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 6: little squeeze and a little wiggle. I would see that, 129 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 6: and I would know that. 130 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: She loved me. 131 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: What's Mom really good at. 132 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: She's really good at being patient, Especially when I'm in 133 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: a really bad mood. She always seems to just find 134 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: a way to help just get me out of the 135 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 4: room and out of the space that's making me angry, 136 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: and just put me in my own space. 137 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 6: She's super creative, and she is also really good at 138 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 6: giving her whole self. She always gives one hundred and 139 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 6: ten percent and everything that she sets her mind to. 140 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 6: Everything she's got at teaching, she's got at sewing, she's 141 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 6: got at cooking. She's good at making things look pretty. 142 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 6: She's got at being empathetic and making people feel loved. 143 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: She's caught out knowing what children want for their birthday 144 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and for Christmas, cooking, making our rooms beautiful and making 145 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: beds everything. 146 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 7: Whatever Mom puts her mind to. 147 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Do, she can do. 148 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 6: What makes you proud of Mum helping to build her 149 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 6: six daughters into who they are, and obviously just continuing 150 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 6: to be a mom like it doesn't stop. 151 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: She's not afraid of being herself. She's really happy to 152 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: be herself. She's not afraid to express how she's feeling. 153 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Reliable. 154 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 5: I can always come to her whenever I'm feeling down 155 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 5: or having problems. I don't ever have to worry about 156 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 5: her judging me, and she'll just always be patient and kind. 157 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Because she believes me, she stands up for and no 158 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: matter what, she never gives up. 159 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 7: How do you know that Mum loves you the way 160 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 7: that she hugs me, especially after a long day or 161 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 7: when I've been having a really hard time. 162 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: Because no matter what I do, She's always finding ways 163 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: to forgive me and always finding ways to let me 164 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: know that she loves me. 165 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: I know that Mummy loves me, not through the physical things. 166 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: It's kind of asking like, oh, well, how do you 167 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: know that wind is there? It's not necessarily something that 168 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: you can always see, but it's just something that you 169 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: feel and you just know that it's. 170 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: True because she shows me Huggy's kisses, helping me when 171 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm feeling sad. She's kind, impatient with me, and she 172 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: never gives up in me and believes in me. 173 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 6: Mum, I love you, and I'm so grateful for everything 174 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: that you have done and continually do for me too, 175 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 6: my life everything that it should be. 176 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for everything you do, 177 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: and I love you no matter what. Thank you for 178 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: my birth. I love you. It's the Happy Family's podcast. 179 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: For a happier family, try a Happy Families membership, because 180 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: a happy family doesn't just happen. 181 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: Details at happy families dot com dot au. 182 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm the first one to admit my childhood wasn't all roses. 183 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: At times, my mum was a complete and utter failure. 184 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: She got it wrong so many times I've lost count. 185 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: There were times I downright hated her and I couldn't 186 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: wait to grow up and walk out that door, never 187 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: to return again. I mean, clearly I knew better than her, 188 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: and I was definitely not going to make the same 189 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: mistake she did, or so I thought time has a 190 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: way of showing us things we never saw in the moment, 191 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: And then there's firsthand experience that's hard to ignore. The 192 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: first five days of my mothering journey were a dream. 193 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: My brain new baby just fed and slept. I can 194 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: remember lying in my hospital bed next to her crib, 195 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: willing her to wake so I could have my next encounter, 196 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: my next snuggle. I was in awe of this little 197 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: human being I had helped create. The day we left 198 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: the hospital and wheeled her crib all the way down 199 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: the hallway out the entrance of the hospital and placed 200 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: her in her very own car seat for the first 201 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: time was a little surreal. I couldn't believe how lucky 202 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: we were. We drove out the driveway on our way 203 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: to our own little happily ever after, But within moments 204 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: of us leaving the safety of the hospital and help 205 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: at the pushber button, she started crying uncontrollably, and she 206 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: was loud. Nothing I did calmed her, and I thought 207 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: my heart would break in two. I went from feeling 208 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: like I had it all together to being a total 209 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: loss within seconds. The years that followed amplified that feeling 210 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: over and over again. Just when you feel like you 211 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: have it all together. Another spanner in the works, another 212 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: moment in time you never thought you'd have to face. 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: This mothering gig is hard, so high that I have 214 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: spent many sleepless nights pacing the floor or drenching my 215 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: pillow and tears. How could I get things so wrong? 216 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: Why didn't I foresee that danger? How do I reach 217 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: my child? And in an instant there is clarity. I 218 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: am doing the very best I can, and for all 219 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: my good intentions I know how and education, there are 220 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: still days I am a complete and art of failure, 221 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: just like my mum. And that's when the light bulb 222 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: moment hits. So is she, for all her effort, for 223 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: all her good intentions know how in education, she too 224 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: found herself pacing the floor and drenching her pillow, wondering 225 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: how she could ever make good. Sometimes it's easy to 226 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: see the faults of others and want to blame them 227 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: for how hard our life is. Let's be real, some 228 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: mistakes hurt a lot. My mum wasn't perfect. She's the 229 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: first one to admit that, but she taught me a 230 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: lifelong lesson. She taught me that no matter how hard 231 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: it gets. It's no matter how many times you fall 232 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: or how often you just have to find the strength 233 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: to get up one more time and try again. I 234 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: imagine a Mother's Day in the far or future, my 235 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: children surrounding me, and I wonder will they see me 236 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: for the utter failure I was, or will they offer 237 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: me their grace? Will they experience the realization that while 238 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: I was not perfect, I did my very best. I hope. 239 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: So this Mother's Day, I want to pay tribute to 240 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: my mum, imperfect as she is, for the countless time 241 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: she chose to get up one more time. It is 242 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: her example that helps me find the courage to keep 243 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: trying when I feel like I am a complete and 244 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: utter failure. 245 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 3: Thank you for that reflection. Happy Mother's Day for yesterday 246 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: for all of the mums, whether you're with your kids 247 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: or not, whether your mum's with you or not, we 248 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: hope that it's a special Mother's. 249 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: Day for you. 250 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: Coming up later this week on the Happy Famili's podcast, 251 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: we talk again with Jessica Leigh, the author of the 252 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Gift of Failure. We're going to talk about how you 253 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: can overcome exhaustion and tomorrow question from a listener via 254 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: podcasts at happyfamilies dot com dot you about how she 255 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: can navigate life with a teenager who is identifying as transgender. 256 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: That's all coming up on the Happy Families podcast, which 257 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: is produced by Justin Ruland from Bridge Media and Craig 258 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: Bruce is our executive producer. If you'd like more information 259 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: about making your family happier, you can find all the 260 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: info at happy families dot com dot you. And a 261 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: quick reminder this Wednesday our Little People, Big Feelings Summit. 262 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: If you've got little ones and you want to have 263 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: more wins with those little ones because it is so challenging, 264 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: the summit is first thing Wednesday morning. You can get 265 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: all the information about how you can be part of 266 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: that summit at happyfamilies dot com dot au