1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio right now, as he does 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: most Wednesday mornings. It is the Assistant Commissioner for Greater 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Darwin Road Safety and Support, Travis Wurst. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Good morning to you morning, Katie. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Now Assistant Commissioner. Firstly, I will just go to the 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: emergency declaration declared late yesterday for Tenant Creek. We know 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: that the situation there with the fires, it is indeed ongoing, 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: and you know we are all keeping a very close 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: eye on things. We're going to catch up with Tony 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Fuller from Bushfires into in about half an hour's time. 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: But from a policing perspective, I would imagine that there 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: is quite a bit of preparatory work happening there in Tenant. 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, look absolutely so. 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Tony will be the best person to speak about the 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: specifics and the exact warning locations, et cetera within the 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Tennant Creek and Barkley area. But acknowledging that there are 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: a number of fires still burning, there are still significant 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: risk associated with those fires and the infrastructure around the 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: Tenant Creek area. Lots of engagements happening between all of 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: the engaged authorities under the Emergency Management construct. We've also 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: got lots of assistance that's coming either in through the ADF. 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: We've got some South Australian support resources coming as well. 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: But I'll arrive and Alice springs today, I believe, and 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: we deployed tomorrow, which is great. All the resources we 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: can get, the better to make sure that that Tenet 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: Creek environment and those surrounding locations are safe. Well, we'll say, 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: and Tany will touch on this tour and imagine that 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: the fire risk for Darwin over the coming days into 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: the weekend is going to increase just simply because of 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: the temperatures increasing, winds are up and it's not as humid, 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: so that always increases our fire risks. So I ask 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: everyone to be very careful, look out for the warnings, 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: make sure if you're see any fireman, you wouldhere to them. 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: They're there for a reason. 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, And the last thing that we need at 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: this point in time, when our resources are indeed stretched. 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: You know, we have got so many volunteers on the ground, 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: so many of our fires people coming in from interstate 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: to help with the situation in you know, in the 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Barkley region that the last thing we need is for 41 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: a fire up here in the top end, because somebody 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: does something that's you know, that's either through ignorance or 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: stupidity really that that sees a fire lit. 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you see it, report it. 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: If you see someone doing something that doesn't look right suspicious, 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: please report it because there are a very small group 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: in the community that well known colloquially as firebugs and 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: that is the last thing we need as well. An 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: accidental fire is one thing. A suspicious or deliberately lit 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: fire that leads to a wildfires is exactly what we don't. 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: Need, Assistant Commissioner have additional police resources had to be 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: sent to tenant as well or not at this stage, so. 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: That most of the police resources are placed into the 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: coordination functions. So the emergency Operations Center is operating in 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: that we have police that are fulfilling all the functional 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: groups within that environment. It's less so police on the ground, 57 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: so to speak, but there are still plenty of police 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: Intendant Creek who are actively involved in mitigating, managing, communicating, 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: engaging to make sure that this fire doesn't call any 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: catastrophes in that environment. 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I do want to see if there is 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: a bit of an update on the terribly tragic situation 63 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: where we saw a toddler a toddler's death at a 64 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Humpty Dow child care center last week. Is there any 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: update from the Northern Territory Police perspective. 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: The update is the matter is currently on an investigation 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: on behalf of the coroner and there's a little more 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: that can be provided the station. 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: All right, And I do want to make sure that 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: I respect and I know you know that the station 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: respects that that family of that young person, that little 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: that child as well at what must be an incredibly 73 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: difficult time. Now, I want to go to a couple 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: of different situations that had unfolded last week that the 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police have obviously been out to. And we 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: saw last week that the Northern Territory Police charge multiple 77 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: people with serious offenses committed throughout the daily region. Now 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: members of the Drug and Organized Crime Squad apprehended firstly 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: a toy Land Cruiser on Port Keats Road. The drug 80 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: detection dog Rambo located three point six kilos of cannabis 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: and a large quantity of cash. Now there are a 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: number of offenses then, or a number of charges against 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: a twenty nine year old man. But the arrest also 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: came after a number of recent disturbances throughout the Daily 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: River region, and what we eventually saw, or what we'd 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: actually seen, is that ten males were arrested in relation 87 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: to a number of different different disturbances that have occurred 88 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: in the region. Assistant Commissioner obviously noting the fact that 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: you are indeed the Assistant Commissioner for Greater Darwin, but 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: this is a pretty significant arrest, isn't it. I mean 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: ten people being arrested, and by the look of it, 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: a number of charges. You would hope that it's going 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: to go some way in terms of in terms of 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: calming things down in locations like pepperminati Yere. 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: Look, we did arrest ten people. A number of those 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: were dealt with and there obviously before the court. Now 97 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: they related to disturbances within Pepper Binnardi and also the 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: unlawful use of motivehicles that have occurred from Darwin and 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: the other rural areas Bachelor as well. It's disappointing for 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: that community because that's ten people now that are probably 101 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: not in that community that should be there helping that 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: community to manage this unrest and rebuild support the community 103 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: support the local traditional owners to make sure that they 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: can resolve what the issues are. Now police continue to 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: work closely with that community and the traditional owners. It's 106 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: going to be a long term process and it's all 107 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 3: part of this longer term funding model that'll have a 108 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: police station built there. The police station that's currently Pepperardi 109 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: is a very poor, old femist type model, so the 110 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: shipping container model. When we've had additional resources out there 111 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: to support that community in the recent past, we've had 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: police sweeping and swags, which is not ideal for anyone, 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: but it happens. It happens from time to time, has 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: happened ever since I've been in the job, and it 115 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: will continue to happen from time to time when we 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: need to deploy resources to these remote locations to support communities. 117 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: It seems so like the compound out there has been 118 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: targeted at different times too. I mean, are the officers 119 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: safe out there? 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 3: The compound needs compound has been targeted, The officers are safe. 121 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: They're targeting not the officers, but they've targeted cars within 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: the compound. So it's a different scenario in that regard. 123 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: What is also been targeted at times not in relation 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: to the officers, but in relation to motivehicles that have 125 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: been seized and contained within there is that obviously, as 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: I said, that plan to build a new police station, 127 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: which is long overdue and fantastic, and we need that 128 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: obviously up and running sooner rather than later. It takes time. 129 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: We know that we'll continue to serve as that community 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: in the interim period regardless. 131 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: Do you reckon what impact though, do you reckon that 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: these arrests are going to have on that crime that 133 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: has been experienced in the. 134 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: Region, Well, it'll create a short term circuit breaker. If 135 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: there are people that are involved in so those broader services, 136 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: I don't know who they are and what their involvement was. 137 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: But unfortunately, if that's what's required to give that community 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: some respite, then that's what needs to happen. Disappointing from 139 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: our point of view that we've got to do that. 140 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: We don't need to be arresting any more people than 141 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: we have to wel. 142 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: Our prison system is already. 143 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: At a breaking point from a prisoner point of view, 144 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: and we don't need any more people in custody. 145 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Oh, this is probably this may be more so a 146 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: question for corrections, but just after what you'd said there. 147 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if we've still got a situation where we've 148 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: got you know, where we have got prisoners being housed 149 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: in the watchhouses. 150 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Yes, we do. 151 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: So there are still prisoners in our Day and Watchhouse 152 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: and we have the smaller facility at Peter McCaulay Center 153 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: that also has some prisoners that are all managed by 154 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: correction stuff. 155 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we might put in a call to Corrections 156 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: to see if we can get somebody on to talk 157 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: a little more about that. I do want to ask you. 158 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: There's been also a number of alcohol halls in the 159 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, but one in particular which had 160 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: seen well one a large number of well quite a 161 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: large amount of alcohol seized on its way out to 162 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Adelaide River. By the look of things, has there been 163 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: quite a focus for the Northern Territory Police on alcohol 164 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: and getting into communities where it shouldn't be. 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: So we've had two significant sieges in the last week. 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: The one you just spoke of was actually on its 167 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: way out into the West Daily area, but the one 168 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: of most significance was from Cogra down in Central Australia 169 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: and over two hundred leters of cast wine was seized 170 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: from a vehicle that was traveling back up from South Australia, 171 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: and that alcohol was destined for remote communities within the 172 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: Central Australian region. Now that matter is still on an investigation. 173 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: Obviously you've got a driver of that vehicle that's been managed. 174 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: But the impact that has on the remote community is 175 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: that is a significant amount of alcohol. Trafficking that much 176 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: alcohol into vulnerable remote communities just causes nothing but harm. 177 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: I didn't for a reason. 178 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I didn't even realize that you 179 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: could still by cask wine. 180 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: Yes, you can certainly buy four letter cask wine anywhere 181 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: outside of the Northern Territory and unfortunately people are going 182 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: to extraordinary links to access alcohol. 183 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, so it wasn't probably wasn't actually purchased. Well, 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't purchased in the Northern Territory from ye. 185 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: And it's been traffic back into the territory. It's not 186 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: the first time that's occurred. We're alive to this concern. Obviously, 187 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 3: Central Australia has particular alcohol restrictions in place already I 188 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: thought already put my hand sorry, but we've seen it 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: also coming in from the Eastern side as well. So 190 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: we're alive to those concerns as well, because if we're 191 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: managing alcohol in a community in a particular way, this 192 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: influx of unregulated alcohol is something that causes massive concern 193 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: for the community. 194 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: The harm that's causes extraordinary. 195 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: Hey, just from overnight, I understand there have been a 196 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: couple of incidents from overnight. One in particular I think 197 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: where the Palmerston Pool was targeted. 198 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: Yes, there was an unlawfully unlawful entry there. Sorry, and. 199 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: Amongst other things, a lot of property damage occurred to 200 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: a lot of the computers and. 201 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: Whatnot in the administration area. 202 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: Just want an unnecessary damage matter as under investigation by 203 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: trying and will continue to investigate that particular matter. 204 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: So by the sounds of it, quite a significant amount 205 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: of damage. 206 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: I don't know the exactly dollar figure, but certainly smashing 207 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: up the computers, laptops, monitors in that administration area and 208 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: it's just entirely unnecessary. 209 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it just makes it Well, it's then an 210 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: absolute hindrance on them trying to work today or trying 211 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: to get anything done. 212 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and they're trying to do good work for 213 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: the community. It's a great it's a great community space, 214 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: the way they're developing that environment there, and it's designed 215 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: for particularly young people who need a place that's safe 216 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: and some respite. And I'm not saying it was young 217 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: people who did this, but to derail a lot like 218 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: that is actually a slap in the face for the 219 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: good work those good people at Palmers and are doing well. 220 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner Travis Wurst, we really appreciate your time this morning. 221 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for coming in and having a 222 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: chat with us. Thank you