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Speaker 2: We would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 2: Hey, dear listeners, just a quick note to say that

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Speaker 2: this discussion about the Iranian women's football team was recorded

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Speaker 2: before some of the latest developments. This story is live.

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Speaker 2: New information keeps coming to light, but we think it's

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Speaker 2: still an important chat to have.

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Speaker 1: Our thoughts are with the whole team.

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Speaker 4: The fate of the Iranian women's soccer team is another

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Speaker 4: test for this country and it displays clearly the terror

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Speaker 4: of the regime in Tehran. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 4: work going on in recent days to make sure we

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Speaker 4: gave these women every possible opportunity to seek assistance if

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Speaker 4: they wanted it once everything had been signed off. Last night,

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Speaker 4: there were lots of photos, lots of celebrating, and that

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Speaker 5: That has been really moving for Australians to see them

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Speaker 5: in Australia, and that Matilda's swapping jerseys with them was

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Speaker 5: I think a very evocative moments spoke to solidarity and

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Speaker 6: Dear listeners and George, usually we love bringing you an

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Speaker 6: the sport of their choosing. Now, this week we were

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Speaker 6: hoping to have a Matilda the Tillies. We all know

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Speaker 6: that their Australia's favorite team. They've got an Asian Cup

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Speaker 6: and massive opportunity to win silverware on home soil. But

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Speaker 6: that hasn't been the story that's been making not only

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Speaker 6: This has all been about the Iranian women's football team,

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Speaker 6: and definitely placed upon players about what they're trying to

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Speaker 2: Our listeners will know that on to Good Sports we

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Speaker 2: this particular topic has become one of national security and

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Speaker 1: We've touched on.

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Speaker 2: It previously in previous episodes of this season. Just what

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Speaker 2: The regime in Iran is not does not treat women kindly.

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Speaker 2: And then for all of this to happen under the

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Speaker 2: No, all of those athletes were granted visas. I think

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Speaker 6: I don't know, Well, you can only imagine how restricted

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and also everyone's talking about you as well, right,

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Speaker 2: Like Donald Trump went on truth social and was essentially like,

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Speaker 1: Albanezi, let's look after these athletes. Let's take me in.

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Speaker 2: If you state doesn't give them asylum, will give them asylum,

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Speaker 2: you know. And then they had to have a phone

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Speaker 2: who knows in this new world. Daughter.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump then goes after that phone call with Anthony Albaneze,

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Speaker 2: Like, he's got it. He's doing it. It's it's he's

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Speaker 6: But also you've already been branded wartime traders, and through

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Speaker 1: Which is a very dangerous position to be if you're running.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just and the thing is we talk about

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Speaker 3: But there are going to be further repercussions of this.

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Speaker 6: sure as hell aren't going to be going ahead. So

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Speaker 6: whereabouts those events going to be held? It's even looking

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Speaker 6: have qualified.

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Speaker 3: To play in the US. How's that going to look?

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Speaker 6: And of course we've seen through every iteration of sport

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Speaker 6: We are just so sorry that this was an experience

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Speaker 3: While they competed in the Asian Cup.

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Speaker 6: And we just hope those that whatever choice that they

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Speaker 2: And hopefully for the women who have been granted asylum

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Speaker 2: and if they choose to stay here permanently, that they

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Speaker 2: do get the support that they need. At a human level,

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Speaker 2: you have to understand that, you know, they may not

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Speaker 2: have support. I was very, very buoyed to see that

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Speaker 2: a lot of the A League women's clubs have already

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Speaker 2: they're like, if they need help, if you need anything,

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful for their futures that they have one that

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Speaker 2: I think is all that we can hope for.

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Speaker 3: So George, that was our discussion this week. We thought

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Speaker 3: it was a very important one to have. We will

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Speaker 6: Largely more up and about next week, we hope, but

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Speaker 6: until then, begg Sport