Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload, the podcast last week that lif.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Kent,
Speaker 2: one of this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. The popular
Speaker 2: reality show is back on Network ten and there's already
Speaker 2: been a few decent twists and turns which has been
Speaker 2: really interesting to watch unfold. Brains Versus Brown two is
Speaker 2: a return to this popular Survivor theme and what a
Speaker 2: first week we had served up by the team at
Speaker 2: Endemols Shine Australia. I think there has been some really
Speaker 2: cool setups with some of the characters and I'm already
Speaker 2: quite invested in the dynamics on both teams. This week
Speaker 2: we saw Candy, Indy and Kent eliminated in the first
Speaker 2: tribal councils and we are lucky enough to unpack the
Speaker 2: first week with Kent. Today. Kent will talk about how
Speaker 2: he was cast after ten years of applying and what
Speaker 2: nearly saw him say no to accepting a spot in
Speaker 2: this series. Kent will share what he thinks about the
Speaker 2: first three eliminations and what he expects to happen in
Speaker 2: the aftermath of his exit. I find out about his
Speaker 2: journey on the show and what it has been like
Speaker 2: watching his personality from a viewer's point of view. You
Speaker 2: will get everything from burning maxis hat, what he really
Speaker 2: thinks of Miles, and why it took months to recover
Speaker 2: from this experience. There is so much to talk about,
Speaker 2: with so many inside revelations, So guys, sit back and
Speaker 2: relax as we unpack the wonderful world of a Strand Survivor,
Speaker 2: which is back this week on Sunday Night. This is
Speaker 2: very exciting because from the minute I watched the first episode,
Speaker 2: I'd heard that there was someone in this series that
Speaker 2: had applied for many had been applying for many years.
Speaker 2: I think what I want to really talk to you about, though,
Speaker 2: is this ongoing debate about do you think being a
Speaker 2: schooled fan of the show helps you in reality?
Speaker 1: Oh? Look, as much as I am a super fan,
Speaker 1: like I've loved the show as everybody has listened and
Speaker 1: heard forever since its inception, but I'm not one of
Speaker 1: those people like Miles who can be like season two,
Speaker 1: episode six, this person and played this and they should
Speaker 1: have done that and that's not how my brain works. Sadly,
Speaker 1: my brand's pretty good, but it's not that good. That's
Speaker 1: one area where I lack, but I'm better in other areas.
Speaker 1: So I think it's certainly something like Master has the
Speaker 1: ability to kind of do the numbers and strategize and everything.
Speaker 1: That's never been me. For me, it was my Waimea Bay,
Speaker 1: my Mount Everest. It was the peak that was unachievable
Speaker 1: that no one has climbed before.
Speaker 3: That's what it was for me.
Speaker 1: It was never about winning, it was never about it
Speaker 1: was just achieving the goal, the dream.
Speaker 3: That's what it was all about for me.
Speaker 2: You like the rich people from Jurassic Park three where
Speaker 2: they were like, we've got so much money we can
Speaker 2: pay to go to the island.
Speaker 3: The money inside of it, you know.
Speaker 1: I answered one question which was, hey, Kent, are you
Speaker 1: a multimillionaire? And I went, yeah, I'm a multimillionaire, but
Speaker 1: I'm not Jeanine Ellis. But all you got was that
Speaker 1: I'm a multimillionaire, and then they played that a thousand times.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to be defined by the guy
Speaker 1: that was cast that has a bit of money. I
Speaker 1: would love to have just been seen as the entrepre
Speaker 1: I know, the money side of it is irrelevant.
Speaker 3: In my game and who I am as a person.
Speaker 1: Sure that gives me some great stuff, like I get
Speaker 1: to do cool stuff snowboarding and surfing and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a goal. And I'm one of
Speaker 3: those people in life that.
Speaker 1: I will push and push and push and persist and persist.
Speaker 1: And when I met my wife, I told her about
Speaker 1: the show. My kids that are twenty eight and twenty
Speaker 1: six have known pretty much their whole existence about Survivor,
Speaker 1: and I told them that I'm going to be on
Speaker 1: one day and lo and behold, guess what I did it.
Speaker 2: You know, there's this debate about reality TV. Let's go
Speaker 2: with this about reality TV, where it's a really good
Speaker 2: opportunity to look in and see who you really are
Speaker 2: because we in the real world, we don't get it
Speaker 2: played back and we have no idea about how people
Speaker 2: see us. Do you think this is an accurate portrayal
Speaker 2: of you? Do you think you might have seen something
Speaker 2: about yourself that you thought, hang on a zech, that's
Speaker 2: not who I am. You know, I didn't realize that's
Speaker 2: how I came across oh well.
Speaker 1: Interestingly, I was auditioned a couple of years ago as
Speaker 1: a villain.
Speaker 3: They ran and said, hey, can we want to audition
Speaker 3: it as a villain.
Speaker 1: And then I went, amazing a villain, but I'll try,
Speaker 1: and they went, hey, You're not the villain, sorry, lo
Speaker 1: and Behold. I ended up being quite villainous. But as
Speaker 1: to who you see, honestly, don't think you know. I
Speaker 1: have a bad bone in my body. I'm incredibly kind,
Speaker 1: I'm full of love.
Speaker 3: Hopefully in the.
Speaker 1: In the pre show videos, you'll see me talking about
Speaker 1: how I just want to come in there and I
Speaker 1: want to hug Miles and hold him and protect him
Speaker 1: because I'm worried about him. I want to be the
Speaker 1: father figure. And then Lo and Behold. I get in there,
Speaker 1: and night one, Miles tells me I'm the first to
Speaker 1: go on the chopping block. Day two, he tells everybody
Speaker 1: that I found an idol. I'm like, Okay, this journey
Speaker 1: is going to be a quick one.
Speaker 3: Better make an impact. I'm gonna I'm gonna burn Max's hat.
Speaker 1: Because Max had done three things to me in the
Speaker 1: space of about ten minutes.
Speaker 3: I was like, Max, who's here right by the way.
Speaker 3: He's just turned up. We're going hat shopping today, Max.
Speaker 2: Get My name's Ben, Welcome to the podcast. I just
Speaker 2: wishit get a So I watched the first episode without
Speaker 2: my partner and I said to him, there's a guy
Speaker 2: that's in this series. When you first look at him,
Speaker 2: you might not think he's the hottest person in the world,
Speaker 2: but by the time you finished the episode, you'll be obsessed.
Speaker 1: I agree, I am the most heterosexual man on the planet.
Speaker 3: But I was like, my god, how good looking.
Speaker 1: We are gonna we are going to launch you through this,
Speaker 1: And I said all along, he's gonna love it when
Speaker 1: I burn his hat because he's going to be burnts down,
Speaker 1: our main character. And you're going to get some modeling
Speaker 1: giggs Atus because he's honestly, you're one of the best
Speaker 1: looking dudes.
Speaker 3: Look at him. He's a good looking He's a good
Speaker 3: looking guy. Thank you. It means a lot.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to pick all of that up and
Speaker 2: move it to the side.
Speaker 3: I'll see you in a minute.
Speaker 2: Lovely to meet you. So you know, Ken, I just
Speaker 2: want to talk to you a little bit more about
Speaker 2: just that reflection of yourself. Did watching this show make
Speaker 2: you think about who you are as a person. Do
Speaker 2: you think watching this will make you change any of
Speaker 2: your behavior?
Speaker 1: Look, everything in Survivor is incredibly amplified. Can's a mad
Speaker 1: man running around with the magette? No canse the guy
Speaker 1: that has the one machete that we have that's been
Speaker 1: nominated to chop bamboo, chop down palm frongs.
Speaker 3: That was it. But I'm a crazy man. Man.
Speaker 2: Well, you did say quite a few cutting comments. I mean,
Speaker 2: some villainous, hilarious one line, but you did say those
Speaker 2: things though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it comes to me, maybe the way I
Speaker 1: kind of was like, I'm the I'm the praying mantis.
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to eat Miles alive. And
Speaker 1: that's that's not my real world. You know.
Speaker 3: As I said, I went in there wanting.
Speaker 1: To protect I want I wanted to protect Myles, Sorry,
Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to.
Speaker 3: Protect him and nurture him and make sure he wasn't
Speaker 3: the first vote.
Speaker 1: But what happens in this game is that everything just
Speaker 1: gets turned on its head. I went in there, first
Speaker 1: of all, incredibly vulnerable. My wife was very sick. Just
Speaker 1: as I'd found out I was going on the show.
Speaker 1: If she was ill, I didn't want to leave her.
Speaker 1: It was my it was my my dream to be
Speaker 1: on Survivor. And then also my wife's incredibly ill, so
Speaker 1: I was like So I was in tears all the
Speaker 1: way to the airport. Night when I was prying On's shoulder,
Speaker 1: I had hurt my back really badly.
Speaker 3: I tore my seratus posteria. So I was in incredible pain.
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep, and I can tell you I literally
Speaker 1: was losing my mind out there.
Speaker 3: So what you saw on the island was not a
Speaker 3: true reflection of who I am.
Speaker 1: Maybe certainly there's elements of it, but they were amplified
Speaker 1: based on the person that I became.
Speaker 3: I will say, and.
Speaker 1: When Rich said something's going on with Kant, I think
Speaker 1: the appropriate words were something wasn't quite right with me.
Speaker 3: And it took me about a month to get quite right.
Speaker 1: And I've never had any sort of mental health issues
Speaker 1: my entire life. But I came out a very fragile
Speaker 1: human being. And that's what I've learned from I guess
Speaker 1: from this is is that I'm far more fragile than
Speaker 1: what I ever realized.
Speaker 2: I think it's important to ask how the health of
Speaker 2: your wife is at the moment, if you don't mind
Speaker 2: sharing about that, how is she?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is difficult to talk about.
Speaker 1: I came great joy that I rang her and said
Speaker 1: I'm out, and I came home to honestly a lot
Speaker 1: of grief. We then spent the next eight weeks traveling
Speaker 1: around Europe and had a great time. But it's been
Speaker 1: a battle. I abandoned her in the biggest time of
Speaker 1: need ever in her existence, and her husband.
Speaker 3: Got went sea. I'm going to fulfill my dream.
Speaker 1: Hence the overwhelmingness that hit me of all of it,
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes when we make these decisions, you know, wrong,
Speaker 2: all right, they've been made and you have to go okay,
Speaker 2: that's what it is, and you have to move on.
Speaker 2: In a way, I think maybe the universe wanted you home,
Speaker 2: and maybe the universe made that decision for you. And
Speaker 2: I'm not completely one of those people that believes that,
Speaker 2: but I do think sometimes it's important for us to
Speaker 2: let the path guide us, and you know, maybe this
Speaker 2: was not your time. Also, maybe burning Max's hat will
Speaker 2: allow you to be back for heroes versus villains too,
Speaker 2: and the story may continue because there is something I
Speaker 2: can say to you, Ken about your time on this show.
Speaker 2: When you look at the people talking about the first
Speaker 2: three episodes, they are talking about you. You made an impact.
Speaker 1: I left because I made it happen. I knew when
Speaker 1: I burnt the hat there.
Speaker 3: Was never an intention of ever announcing it the tribal council.
Speaker 3: Why would you ever do that. It's like the stupidest
Speaker 3: move ever. Hey, guys, here's here's the machete.
Speaker 1: You put it to my throat. I was ready to go.
Speaker 1: I knew it would kill me, but I needed to go.
Speaker 1: And the second I walked.
Speaker 3: Out, I was like, okay, guys, yep, I'm happy to go.
Speaker 3: This is what I haven't told you.
Speaker 1: My wife's a time sick and I've ticked the box
Speaker 1: and I have.
Speaker 3: To get it out of here. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I sent David and phoebea message this morning and thanking
Speaker 1: them so much for giving me the opportunity and for
Speaker 1: the journey. And I said, never again, never again. But
Speaker 1: you know what it's like, it's in the blood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, reality, Clev's a little bit like Craig Cocaine.
Speaker 2: Let people get it and they're addicted, you know, And
Speaker 2: I'll destroy their lives until they get it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look for me, for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if there was an opportunity again and they'd be
Speaker 1: my wife would have to be well, and I would
Speaker 1: love the opportunity, and I would play a totally different game.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hang out of a bus and destroy my
Speaker 1: back and going injured and be in pain and not
Speaker 1: sleep for six days. And you know, with the correct surroundings,
Speaker 1: it would be a total And if I was on
Speaker 1: the right tribe, I should have been. Even though I
Speaker 1: am a little bit of a brain.
Speaker 3: I belonged. I belonged on the other tribe just.
Speaker 2: To get some of your hot takes on the show
Speaker 2: now because you can step back and be a bit
Speaker 2: of a viewer, but you also were there. I thought
Speaker 2: it would interesting to ask you about some of the
Speaker 2: other things that had happened. I really enjoyed the concept
Speaker 2: of the White Witch, regardless as to you know who
Speaker 2: our white witch is. I liked the idea of that.
Speaker 3: And the coven, I mean the Covenants.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a cool thing, you know, the Victoria
Speaker 1: Bidders and the Covenants.
Speaker 3: Let's put a name to something they can call it
Speaker 3: whatever they want.
Speaker 1: It was pretty visible day one that they were going
Speaker 1: to sort of do what they did quite often the case.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to them slowly eating each other alive,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure is inevitable. That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Someone's going to flip. That's the beauty of this game,
Speaker 1: and it's so exciting to watch. I've caught up with
Speaker 1: so many people from the show. Max is here right now,
Speaker 1: Laura and myself, Morgan, Kate, and Noonan.
Speaker 3: I've caught up with.
Speaker 1: Miles, I've caught up with Kursten. We've all gone out
Speaker 1: for dinners. And Laura in particularly I found lovely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was great, although she was pretty cut throat on
Speaker 1: me last night, and I, as I said in the
Speaker 1: show last night, you know I trust you.
Speaker 3: Yeah she lied to my face, but yeah, she's a
Speaker 3: good white witch.
Speaker 2: Well that's the nature of these sorts of shows. So like,
Speaker 2: if you to play these games, well, you want to
Speaker 2: be able to create these TV moments, and this particular
Speaker 2: show celebrates people who lie, and you know a lie,
Speaker 2: well that's a part of it.
Speaker 3: You watch.
Speaker 1: Aj Aj is going to be I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be good to watch.
Speaker 3: I don't have the benefit of kind of knowing what's.
Speaker 1: Going to happen, but I feel that, Yeah, Aj came
Speaker 1: out last night, not out of the closet, he came out,
Speaker 1: and he's going to rise.
Speaker 3: I can see that.
Speaker 2: Looking at some of the other people that left this
Speaker 2: show this week, what did you think of the first boot?
Speaker 2: So you've got Candy that's coming out of this show first,
Speaker 2: did you think that was the right decision there?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, lookh Nash walking out one of the boldest,
Speaker 1: fastest finding ever idols, wearing it into you know, that
Speaker 1: was a pretty bold statement.
Speaker 3: He was probably always going to.
Speaker 1: Play it, and it's always sad to see somebody go,
Speaker 1: you know, it's devastating for anybody.
Speaker 3: She was just a byproduct of Nash playing.
Speaker 1: His idol, and sadly she was seen as kind of
Speaker 1: the weakest link. I think, probably because she was just
Speaker 1: one of the little girls and Kate and her. But
Speaker 1: you'll find, you know, people like Kate, her Zara, they
Speaker 1: thrive in the challenges where they can hang off poles
Speaker 1: and you know, support their own body weight and all
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. She would have excelled in those things,
Speaker 1: or she had to climb through ropes and everything.
Speaker 3: It was sad to see her go, It really was.
Speaker 2: And Nash has made some pretty bold booths. I mean,
Speaker 2: I would never have found that idol and want it
Speaker 2: around my neck and carry it on like he did.
Speaker 2: Like I thought that was a choice. That's a real
Speaker 2: decision in your gameplay. Did you think that? Do you
Speaker 2: think that's going to bite him in the ass, because
Speaker 2: what do you think about some of Nash's decisions? And
Speaker 2: if he didn't have that idol, maybe should he be
Speaker 2: the one to go home first.
Speaker 3: I don't know about him needing to be the one
Speaker 3: to go home first.
Speaker 1: I certainly would wouldn't ever tell anybody if I found
Speaker 1: an idol, and PAULI did it last night. I think
Speaker 1: it's always good to keep these things because long and behold,
Speaker 1: you know, and if I tell you, then you'll know.
Speaker 3: Chinese whispers and before you know it, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: So I think, really it's best to always keep those
Speaker 1: things to yourself unless there's one particular person that you
Speaker 1: think you can really can fight and you can use
Speaker 1: it together.
Speaker 3: But we've seen that it can implode, explode. You just
Speaker 3: never know. It's all about trust and who you can
Speaker 3: and who you can't. But ultimately, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, everyone always gets stabbed in the back, don't they.
Speaker 2: Is an interesting thing that you've brought up right out,
Speaker 2: because like trust in episode two could have been the
Speaker 2: name of the episode, because what we saw unravel with
Speaker 2: Indy's decisions seemed to be about misguided trust. You know,
Speaker 2: she really could have stayed with her alliance but chose
Speaker 2: to step out of it. It begs me to ask
Speaker 2: the question as to whether or not she should have
Speaker 2: just bit her tongue, you know, and waited, because it
Speaker 2: makes you wonder whether or not in the game of
Speaker 2: survivor do you play in the moment or are you
Speaker 2: playing three steps down the line? Because what's going to
Speaker 2: get you to the end?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, certainly, if she hadn't have done what she did,
Speaker 1: Miles would have gone home. That was clear, and then
Speaker 1: I would have I would have got what I wanted.
Speaker 1: On the back of Miles telling you when I had
Speaker 1: an idol and telling me I was the first to go.
Speaker 1: I had blinkers on for him, which was probably a
Speaker 1: little bit silly of me.
Speaker 3: But your Indy, Indy imploded, But I understand it until
Speaker 3: until you've played it.
Speaker 1: It's so there's just so much going on, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's always talked about in suburb at the Paranoid. When
Speaker 1: Myles told me, you know, I was actually surprisingly incredibly
Speaker 1: calm when.
Speaker 3: He said my name. But then about an hour later
Speaker 3: it kicked in. I was like, ah, I'll it eats
Speaker 3: your live. It really does. And then you take away
Speaker 3: the food and you.
Speaker 1: Take away the sleep, and all of a sudden it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, can I make a decision?
Speaker 3: This is the correct one?
Speaker 1: And then you think you have, and then someone tells
Speaker 1: somebody else and then all of a sudden, the whole
Speaker 1: thing flips on his head. It's like what she said
Speaker 1: that he said that, you know, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the whole thing flips.
Speaker 2: That's what makes this game so exciting. It's also happening
Speaker 2: so fast in real time, so it's also happening fast
Speaker 2: for the viewer, but in real time it's a lot slower.
Speaker 2: It's interesting with your analogy about the dragon or the
Speaker 2: poison slowly seeping in. I mean that really permeates more
Speaker 2: when you're in real time, because with all that time
Speaker 2: in your head and in your mind you're not making
Speaker 2: decisions as fast as they look on the show. Do
Speaker 2: you think that in some ways you were second guessing
Speaker 2: some of the decisions that you were making.
Speaker 1: Oh, in hindsight, probably the kmmodo dragon bit himself and
Speaker 1: was slowly, slowly kind of eating me alive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of things that you know in hindsight.
Speaker 1: And it's again when you watch, When you watch the
Speaker 1: show and you see what was happening in those conversations
Speaker 1: that were twenty feet away, thirty away, thirty feet away, whatever,
Speaker 1: then you kind of then you get the true picture
Speaker 1: what you think is your reality.
Speaker 3: And everyone's telling you, yes, don't trust me data, don't worry.
Speaker 3: If something's fine.
Speaker 1: It's again, you can you can be the only looking
Speaker 1: you know one hundred and eighty degrees. You can have
Speaker 1: people right behind you that are sticking the knife in
Speaker 1: your back and you just can't.
Speaker 3: See it, you can't feel it.
Speaker 1: You need to be incredibly intuitive, and a few days
Speaker 1: in the ability to do that bades pretty quickly, and
Speaker 1: the people that rise at the top of the people
Speaker 1: that capable of probably going in with the strategy and
Speaker 1: being able to maintain that discipline, that state Miles did
Speaker 1: a great job. I'm just going to I'm just going
Speaker 1: to play it, mister cool and sat there and just
Speaker 1: I mean, credit to the guy. You didn't see me.
Speaker 1: I was brutal on him. I stood in front of him,
Speaker 1: said I accused him of stealing the hat, in front
Speaker 1: of everyone. I know what you're doing. You told everyone
Speaker 1: I found an idol. You told me not one. I
Speaker 1: was full on with him.
Speaker 3: That's probably why they cut so you didn't see it.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, Miles is an interesting character, though,
Speaker 2: how do I describe this for the viewers perspective? He
Speaker 2: sort of is an uncomfortable person sometimes, like, but is
Speaker 2: he using that tactic of being uncomfortable in game play?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I could almost imagine Miles could be a completely different
Speaker 2: person out of this game.
Speaker 3: No, I've met Miles out of the game.
Speaker 1: We've had beers together, and Miles is the same outside
Speaker 1: as he is inside. Miles love him. We've been messaging
Speaker 1: each other this morning and he is full on. And
Speaker 1: I was rapped that actually, Klin, by the way you
Speaker 1: saw it wasn't just me going hey, mate, show some
Speaker 1: emotional intelligence. Stopped doing this as he was twenty four
Speaker 1: seven three sixty five.
Speaker 3: Bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, telling people that
Speaker 3: they didn't belong there. What are we even doing here? Like,
Speaker 3: you're not a brain, I'm the brain.
Speaker 1: If this is someone's journey, man, don't say that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 3: And he's brilliant.
Speaker 1: His brain is just the intellect in that guy's the
Speaker 1: way that his brain thinks.
Speaker 3: It's manic, it's on overdrive.
Speaker 1: It's almost like it comes out without any thought, and
Speaker 1: then he regrets it. And that's why he kind of said,
Speaker 1: I need to kind of a credit to the guy
Speaker 1: where he went himself back that day and he did
Speaker 1: him Actually, really, is it all exploded around him to
Speaker 1: him sitting there changed it?
Speaker 3: Maybe it did, but it's all just kind of everything
Speaker 3: else was happening.
Speaker 1: People were throwing each other under the bus, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know that rich was even a consideration. I knew
Speaker 1: that Indy obviously threw herself under the bus sadly, and
Speaker 1: then yeah, that kind of destroyed miles going home, which
Speaker 1: was pretty pivotal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think now he's going to be he's
Speaker 3: going to be.
Speaker 1: Now he's getting be able to kind of slide under
Speaker 1: and he can be used from side to side, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely set himself up to be a character
Speaker 2: of this show. There's a few questions coming in about
Speaker 2: people wanting to know about Zen with his injury and
Speaker 2: leaving the series. Do you think that that should give
Speaker 2: him the opportunity to come back in the next series,
Speaker 2: regardless of the theme. Do you think, you know, having
Speaker 2: an injury like that and coming out of the show
Speaker 2: gives you an automatic pass or should give you an
Speaker 2: automatic pass into another season.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I cried. I cried when that happened.
Speaker 1: It was obviously devastating. I don't know that that's a
Speaker 1: question for the producers obviously as a fan and him
Speaker 1: being a fan. Oh, I think he's a fan. I
Speaker 1: haven't really I didn't get a chest to meet him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he's a super fan and he yeah, absolutely, who knows?
Speaker 3: That's stuck to the survivor gods.
Speaker 2: And the other thing I kept saying as well, was
Speaker 2: people were saying, you know, it wasn't completely obvious that
Speaker 2: you were going to get eliminated. It was a bit
Speaker 2: of a blindside, but you know, people were talking about
Speaker 2: your abilities and your abilities to read the room, and
Speaker 2: you're even on camera saying I think I've got a
Speaker 2: very good read on everything. But when did you think
Speaker 2: in that tribal council that you were going to go home?
Speaker 3: Well this, I mean, first of all, the tribal that
Speaker 3: went for two hours.
Speaker 1: You see ten minutes on the show. The first half
Speaker 1: an hour of that tribal was Max and me, Max
Speaker 1: and me, all the boys, all the boys, all the
Speaker 1: boy The girls went even spoken to to the point
Speaker 1: at one point because We're like, hello over here, we
Speaker 1: can see Ken's the main character.
Speaker 3: Can we please, JLP? Do you even know who we are?
Speaker 1: They go for a long time, and there was a
Speaker 1: question that was asked by JLP to AJ and then
Speaker 1: he AJ mentioned my name and Miles's name, and the.
Speaker 3: Second he did that, I went, yeah, I'm right. And
Speaker 3: I turned to.
Speaker 1: Zara and Rich that were behind me, and I said,
Speaker 1: it's me, isn't it? And they went no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no no, it's not you. And I knew,
Speaker 1: and I wish the cameras were on me, and you
Speaker 1: saw the smile come on my face because I was
Speaker 1: kind of like I'm going, I'm going and yeah, look.
Speaker 1: When that final vote was read out, there was a yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a bit of sweet moment. But yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: packed my bags. I'd left my hat behind for Max.
Speaker 1: I had my two sets of really cool shoes, one
Speaker 1: that I painted up with vibe of logos and stuff
Speaker 1: all over it.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to leave those behind, and yeah, left
Speaker 3: the hat for Max.
Speaker 1: So everyone out there going worrying about Max getting sun burnt.
Speaker 3: Hey have you seen this head here? Yeah? I left
Speaker 3: my hat for Max deliberately.
Speaker 2: Well, it's an exciting first week of Brands Versus Braunze too.
Speaker 2: It's a very hard thing to get people to buy
Speaker 2: into series these days. There's people with so many options
Speaker 2: of so many other shows they could be watching. But
Speaker 2: this is an excellent start to the show and a
Speaker 2: credit to you for what you brought to this series.
Speaker 2: I think people will be talking about it for a
Speaker 2: long time. How do you predict this series is going
Speaker 2: to go? Do you think this is going to be
Speaker 2: spicy or what's your outlook?
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen now. Look, hopefully
Speaker 1: there's some chaos and catastrophe and it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how it plays out, depending on who wins or
Speaker 1: loses the next challenge.
Speaker 3: You know, if the Braun lose, what's going to happen
Speaker 3: with Nash? Who else?
Speaker 1: As a viewer now, you kind of can't see much
Speaker 1: else happening other than Thath who's going to go next?
Speaker 1: In in the my God? Based on last night, I
Speaker 1: would probably say Rich, Yeah, the girls have got control, man.
Speaker 1: I'll just pluck them off by one by one. I'll
Speaker 1: call them the boy spooning brigade that are getting the
Speaker 1: boys all warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 3: We'll just pick them off one by one. That's exactly
Speaker 3: what's happening to you.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I ask everyone what is
Speaker 2: something from behind the scenes. We've got to be careful
Speaker 2: with Survivor because we want to protect some of the
Speaker 2: secrecy of this show. Have you got anything interesting about
Speaker 2: your time in there that you can share that's maybe
Speaker 2: something we didn't see on the program.
Speaker 1: Oh so much, But I've signed an NDA.
Speaker 2: You know what a good question might be to ask you
Speaker 2: about the choices of your clothing. How much time did
Speaker 2: it take to work out what you were going to wear?
Speaker 3: Put it this.
Speaker 1: Way, I didn't want to be the guy every season
Speaker 1: I'm like, why the hell is it guy wearing a suit?
Speaker 3: Who does he think he is? Anyway, I ended up
Speaker 3: wearing a suit jacket.
Speaker 1: We were the red or the orange or the pink,
Speaker 1: so I went and got some red chinos.
Speaker 3: I had some really.
Speaker 1: Cool, helly, handsome shoes that I went and bought and
Speaker 1: I painted them up with full colors because I'm very bland.
Speaker 1: And yeah, my Leopard Prince shirt. There's some other cool
Speaker 1: pink hoodie I had. Yeah, look that the wardrobe process
Speaker 1: is guided, shall we say so?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I got to wear my Leopard Prince shirt, which is
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I was pretty pumped being able to My
Speaker 1: wife hates that shirt though, but I love it. And
Speaker 1: every time I wear it, I've been on a plane,
Speaker 1: the hostess will be like, I love your shirt, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, tell my wife, I'll be somewhere else.
Speaker 3: I love that shirt. Tell my wife. Maybe she hates
Speaker 3: it because I wore it on Survivor. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe she knows it's bringing you attention. She's worried about
Speaker 2: you being an attention seeger. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of that about.
Speaker 1: There is a lot about that about me. Everything I have,
Speaker 1: is bold, is bright, he is out there. I think
Speaker 1: that comes back to being told for half my life
Speaker 1: that I was a failure, and I just want to
Speaker 1: kind of stand out now.
Speaker 2: Well, mate, I absolutely loved watching you on the show.
Speaker 2: You're not a failure in my eyes. My thoughts with
Speaker 2: your wife and her health, and we'll check in with that,
Speaker 2: you know, as as time goes on. But thank you
Speaker 2: for being so generous with your time and talking to
Speaker 2: me on the podcast. I know so many people have
Speaker 2: so many questions and people are invested in your story.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you've been kind to share as much as
Speaker 2: you have.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's been an honor and a privileged and thank
Speaker 1: you for helping me continue this little survivor journey that's
Speaker 1: almost over until I get invited back for billings back.
Speaker 2: Don't come back. I'm putting money on that. I'm just
Speaker 2: going to say, bern a hat do something iconic like
Speaker 2: that coming back?
Speaker 3: Well what I love the episode two Praying Mantis.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean there's a lot of catchphrases. I mean
Speaker 2: I was saying to my partner sitting across the couch
Speaker 2: when I was like, do you reckon?
Speaker 1: Do you reckon?
Speaker 2: You sort of come up with some of these, like
Speaker 2: to produces, tell them what to say. I'm in these.
Speaker 2: You had me, you had a lot of things that landed,
Speaker 2: you know, that were great TV moments. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think we ended up deciding that we thought that's
Speaker 2: probably just how you are in the real world. And
Speaker 2: I think from talkers use today, I think that question
Speaker 2: answered itself. Perfect job done, amazing, look after yourself.