WEBVTT - What Is Lucky Girl Syndrome? ☘️👧

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, come, you've got a great top lip.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't much stay by the bottom, but the top one

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<v Speaker 3>is great. It's good cupids bo.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in high school, really quickly, Brookie.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say really quickly, really quickly is a lie

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<v Speaker 1>every time? Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the hottest guy and you're eleven, his name was,

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, okay. We were all sitting around the quadrangle,

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<v Speaker 2>the tens, elevens and twelves, and he would like flirt

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<v Speaker 2>with us, but nag us all the time, and like

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<v Speaker 2>because I was a joke star, they would joke with

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<v Speaker 2>me medium comedian, part of me, part of me court jester.

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<v Speaker 2>And he would say, you look like a duck. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>that would look like a duck because of my upper lip.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that works. And then the first

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<v Speaker 2>guy I had a crush on set, I had weird

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<v Speaker 2>lips as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So who do you believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, both of them said something your own lips. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always thought they're cute, but they do curl under slightly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I get when I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I say I really like a toplet. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think I'm jesting?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I thought it's nice. But I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>it's in contrast with perhaps what I was told as

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<v Speaker 2>a young impression and whole taste.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they're seeing something that I can't see.

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<v Speaker 2>The duck esque energy that I had waddling around the quad.

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<v Speaker 2>I say this sort of say, we've got a potty.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a potty. It's not to do with my lips.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not to do with ducks, but it is to

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<v Speaker 2>do with a moral not a moral dilemma. I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>like an exercise. I thought, I thought, exercise that is

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<v Speaker 2>scary and upsetting. But if you need your car, just

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<v Speaker 2>plug in. You're not needing to talk back. I am

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<v Speaker 2>so just relax, you know, Like I had to answer

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<v Speaker 2>the question, Oh, they just enjoy and think what would

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<v Speaker 2>I like someone messaging to me that I be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just love listening to you guys, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>about what I would say to flex, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>about what I would say to you, But.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to like do it exactly. And here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so, what would you answer foods? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to participate and anyway, so what what do

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<v Speaker 1>you answer?

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<v Speaker 2>I need to sub someone in for these ones. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Flex and froomes. You're listening to flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>What the frick?

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<v Speaker 3>I've been cooking this one. I've been cooking a lot, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>because the thoughts have been coming?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, would you rather people say that they can't trust

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<v Speaker 3>you or that they can't be themselves around you?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not good? Are they? They're not good? And these

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<v Speaker 1>are my favorite kind.

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<v Speaker 3>These are my favorite kind because then we spend less

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<v Speaker 3>time saying like what's the right answer, and just like

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<v Speaker 3>what answer suits you best?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get to know you, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say I'd rather them say they can't

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<v Speaker 2>be themselves around me, because that could be positive.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I'm a pig, but around you, I'm not, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't be a pig around you. No farting,

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<v Speaker 2>no burping you Brookie producer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you. You're looking at book.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at you. I told you I'm off far

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<v Speaker 2>human twenty twenty three. Ok, Yeah, I would rather. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I like the idea of people trusting me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be deemed as an untrustworthy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't like I'd like to feel that people

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<v Speaker 2>around me feel comfortable. And if you can't be trusting,

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<v Speaker 2>people are on guard, whereas oh, I guess the same

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<v Speaker 2>with not feeling comfortable. What's yours? So wait, when when

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<v Speaker 2>you say being interrogated.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when you say you you would rather people trust you,

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<v Speaker 3>is that by any means necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think no.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather it's the term untrustworthy, yeah, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>can't trust me. You know, like if you're an un

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<v Speaker 2>I think, oh, you're shifty, you're malicious.

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<v Speaker 3>What if you're just a storyteller? Like sometimes you's like,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know that was sacred? I just told someone, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know that the town crier. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be that person.

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<v Speaker 3>Would I rather people say that they can't trust me

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<v Speaker 3>or that they can't be themselves around me? I would

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<v Speaker 3>rather people say they can't be themselves around me, because

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<v Speaker 3>that feels like it's less to do with me, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it is my issue, right, Like it's obviously an impact

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having on somebody else. But the solution feels very simple.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just not hang out because like, clearly it's not meshing.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's a compatibility thing, Maybe it's a chemistry thing,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's a personality thing. If someone is like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel like I can trust you, that makes it

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<v Speaker 3>that makes me feel like it's something I need to

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<v Speaker 3>immediately fix. And I don't think I would know what

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<v Speaker 3>the solution was, right, because what if it's just a vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>What if we've never had an interaction where I've deemed

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<v Speaker 3>myself untrust whether I told your secret or I took

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<v Speaker 3>something from you, but you've already got the vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what am I meant to do?

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like that's a you problem that I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to hold onto until it stops being You probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure it out how you've twisted it to be their problem.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know how it's almost like when you when

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<v Speaker 3>you have a when you have a vibe, you can't shake.

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<v Speaker 3>What am I meant to do? It's like, let's say

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<v Speaker 3>we walked into a room together and you're like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a weird vibe? What can I do?

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<v Speaker 3>But now it's my problem because you've said it out

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<v Speaker 3>loud and we're like, okay, is it the temperature? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it like is it, you know, like don't like the

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<v Speaker 3>color of the paint, Like, what are we going to

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<v Speaker 3>do about it?

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<v Speaker 1>But now I've got to share that with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bring the vibe down, Bring the vibe down, kip

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Oh that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a really hard one because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they're actually quite similar. Yeah, like the reasons I the

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<v Speaker 2>things I don't like about them are the same, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that making people around me feel uncomfortable and making

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<v Speaker 2>people not like me rather Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I wrote this question.

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<v Speaker 2>Is because I'm a liar who you don't feel comfortable around.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, projecting it was a joke, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>unpack unpacked?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are my jokes not landing?

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about this because I was at a

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<v Speaker 3>bar and I was going bar, Like, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Bar hopping? Yeah? I think yeah, bar hopping going from

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<v Speaker 1>bar different.

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<v Speaker 3>Bars, and at each bar, and on the way to

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<v Speaker 3>each bar, me and my friend kept running into people

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<v Speaker 3>like not our mutual friends, but like he would know

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<v Speaker 3>a friend and I would know someone, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>go to a different bar and then there'd be people who,

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<v Speaker 3>like you want to like they come over for a

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<v Speaker 3>bit or whatever, and I just like, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>when you are when you don't know everybody there, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you can easily find yourself on the fringe of a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>While someone's talking, people were saying like some really hectic

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<v Speaker 3>things right, like personal things not about them, no, no about

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<v Speaker 3>their person, about mutual friends and stuff. Were like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if they I was thinking to myself, are

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<v Speaker 3>you saying this because you trust that I won't tell anyone?

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<v Speaker 3>Or are you saying this because you think it's fine

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<v Speaker 3>information to share? And I was thinking, no matter which

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<v Speaker 3>one it was, it all centered on trust, like some

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<v Speaker 3>part of you chit chatting with a bunch of strangers

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<v Speaker 3>feel safe to share this information, like you implicitly trust

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<v Speaker 3>that it's gonna be well received, that it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go back to the person. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I want that feeling like what about

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<v Speaker 3>me has encouraged you to do that? And maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>not even personal, maybe it's nothing about me. But then

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, fuck, what's the alternative, Like someone saying I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to have this conversation around you like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>actually no, we'll talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About it later. It's like you think I don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Tact You think I can't give a scotch, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought, damn, like that would really sting because

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<v Speaker 3>for a second there I was judging them for speaking

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<v Speaker 3>so freely, right, for like trusting implicitly trusting that we

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<v Speaker 3>all know that like this is vault right, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm not gonna tell anyone and this is not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna leave this circle.

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<v Speaker 1>But should you do that? Should you drive?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was wigging out, so immediately I put

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<v Speaker 3>this in my notes. I was like, I need to

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<v Speaker 3>mull over this because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like this, say hey.

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<v Speaker 3>I immediately took it to the group chat. No, I

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<v Speaker 3>was just mulling over. I was like, Okay, there's something there,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know what I'm asking. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>other one like would you rather people say they can't

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<v Speaker 3>be themselves around you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was also it also.

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<v Speaker 3>Like because I was on the fringe of that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>and I was already like, hmmm, a fringe of one

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<v Speaker 3>of these conversations. I was like, I want to say something,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't want to create a weird vibe because

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<v Speaker 3>it's not that deep. Like I don't actually care, but

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<v Speaker 3>if it was a group of my friends, I would

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<v Speaker 3>say something it'd be like funny, like damn, like do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? So I'm like now like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not being myself. I'm taking like a weird position,

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<v Speaker 3>like I was overthinking. I just had too much time

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<v Speaker 3>with my thoughts, and I was like, I can't be

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<v Speaker 3>myself in this conversation because I've overthought it to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where it's not even fun to enjoy this anymore. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So this is off your internal Yeah, yes, because I

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<v Speaker 3>heard this information, I don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I didn't want to hear it. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like I was thinking too much.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn, what if this person was telling

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<v Speaker 3>my business in this way?

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is not surface level gossip. This was like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit intense, like for friends and me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, damn, like I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>if I want to be a part of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>And then now I'm like, but they're so comfortable and

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<v Speaker 3>so like why would I ruin the vibe? And am

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<v Speaker 3>I going to rush to change the conversation because of

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<v Speaker 3>what reason?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like in my head that day, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this would make a good question because

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<v Speaker 3>either way the outcome is not great, but like you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta sit with it, hypothetically sit.

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<v Speaker 1>I will ask everyone that question, would.

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<v Speaker 2>You rather s what is it? Again?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather people say they can't trust you or

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<v Speaker 3>they can't be themselves around you? Flex and is the

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<v Speaker 3>answer to all of your life's problems being delusional? That's

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<v Speaker 3>the question we're trying to answer today on flex and frooms. Yes, no, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in some ways. Look, every generation has their own version

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<v Speaker 3>of positivity and optimism and optimism I was gonna say optimivity,

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<v Speaker 3>which has a ring to it anyway. There's manifestation, mantras, affirmations, mindfulness,

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<v Speaker 3>all of the above, but this one in particular seems

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<v Speaker 3>to have a few people in a bit of a chokehold.

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<v Speaker 3>They're really resonating with it, and other people think it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a one stop shop to some kind of spiritual

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<v Speaker 3>psychosis or like actual delusion where you're so out of

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<v Speaker 3>touch with the way the world works that you break

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<v Speaker 3>something in the brain. That it is called lucky girl

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<v Speaker 3>syndrome gendered for a reason I'm not sure, but on TikTok. Currently,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a trend that's encouraging women worldwide to believe that

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<v Speaker 3>they are in fact lucky girls. And what they do

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<v Speaker 3>is they I mean, I don't think they say to

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<v Speaker 3>these things out loud, but they create videos that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of present to themselves and the world the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>things that they are aspying for by framing it this way,

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<v Speaker 3>I am such a lucky girl. Everything always works out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so lucky that today when I leave the house,

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<v Speaker 3>the best thing is going to happen to me. Nothing

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<v Speaker 3>ever goes wrong because I'm such a lucky girl. And

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<v Speaker 3>various affirmations like that. Now, in some cases you might think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for some people that like that is true.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe you do experience lucky in like varying degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>But other people kind of think it gives you the

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to bypass reality in a way that's not that healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the critique about lucky your syndrome is

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<v Speaker 3>that it takes away your agency. People start living in

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<v Speaker 3>this very like stagnant state. We're instead of actively working

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<v Speaker 3>towards the things that will make you feel good and

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<v Speaker 3>solid and happy, you kind of just wade around in

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<v Speaker 3>this stagnant state, deceiving yourself or trying to shield yourself

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<v Speaker 3>from your reality in favor of this like very odd

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<v Speaker 3>act of like posting about how lucky you are, even

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<v Speaker 3>if it contradicts your current reality. A few other examples

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<v Speaker 3>of lucky Girl's syndrome. There's this girl here is like

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't until I genuinely believe that great things were

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<v Speaker 3>happening to me, that they happened right, and people are

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like or you're just becoming aware that good

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<v Speaker 3>things happen all the time in varying degrees and you

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<v Speaker 3>just never notice because until it was framed as luck,

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<v Speaker 3>you thought it wasn't important.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I do. I have seen the brows

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<v Speaker 1>furrow two three times through me. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm interested that you don't really vibe with it,

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<v Speaker 2>because to me it sounds quite spooky.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think my spool like I'm actually spooky,

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<v Speaker 3>like raise religious spooky, like believe in God spooky. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not like online wo wo like pop culture spooky. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a bit of the dissonance here, where

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<v Speaker 3>like I fundamentally believe in the concept of faith, I

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally believe in the concept of fate. I fundamentally believe

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<v Speaker 3>in the concept that there are higher powers working in

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<v Speaker 3>tandem to make sure my life is good. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>my mum, you know, maybe it's my best friend. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, but I feel gifted that I have opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>that other people don't have. I feel lucky, But I

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<v Speaker 3>also think that like look at my day to day,

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<v Speaker 3>like I work eighteen hours, Like is it really lucky

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<v Speaker 3>at a certain point or is it just like constantly

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<v Speaker 3>working towards a thing and then recognizing when it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know, but I will say like a

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<v Speaker 3>big cornerstone of my personality is like doing stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>like getting things done and working towards a goal. And

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<v Speaker 3>like these affirmations don't tell you to do that at

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<v Speaker 3>no point is lucky girl syndrome saying like think this

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<v Speaker 3>way and then like get out the house and like

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<v Speaker 3>plant that tree and you know, have that conversation. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just saying if you sit there and believe it, it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be true. And it's not true, do you know, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you're not You're almost like it's like fake it till

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<v Speaker 3>you make it. Culture like fake it until you make it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not just like faking it for it's entiredy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not doing an access there, right, And the faking

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<v Speaker 3>it meant to help platform you, elevate, you bolster you

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<v Speaker 3>give you a sense of confidence in order to do

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<v Speaker 3>that thing. It isn't confidence, it isn't conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, tell the multi level marketers literally love.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the same vein, I do like this idea

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<v Speaker 3>that people are like releasing themselves from the chokehold of

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<v Speaker 3>like depression meme culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like change it up. I'm like much happy that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the vibe you know.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was deep in that like twenty seventeen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>heralded in that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We can move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms say the best. What did you o?

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<v Speaker 2>I was on TikTok the other day and I came

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<v Speaker 2>across this video that explained how what you want is

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<v Speaker 2>actually a substitute for what you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh explain.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, if you want a fast car, it means

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<v Speaker 2>you want power and this whole other lists of other things.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want a relationship, you really just want physical touch.

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<v Speaker 1>If you continue, please pay.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want give me an example, from what you

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<v Speaker 3>want that's a substitute for what you need. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>just explain it to me in the way that you

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<v Speaker 3>understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, I don't understand concepts.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but like you're I don't know, it's insane, but

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<v Speaker 3>I can't what a relationship just a hug is said.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that, Okay, that's more achievable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like if you want to eat comfort food,

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<v Speaker 2>you need a hug if you want it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me explain. It's essentially how all these.

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<v Speaker 2>Markers of like power, love, societal like brackets are really

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<v Speaker 2>just you need these really simple things.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're saying, can kind of all be like whittled

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<v Speaker 3>down into this one core simple thing. Yes, or as

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<v Speaker 3>we grow we like over complicate it. We'd be like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I want this specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, like if you want to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 3>See saying, everyone who wants to be in a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>at their core just needs to be touched.

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<v Speaker 2>No. So an example would be you you think you

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<v Speaker 2>really want a relationship, yeah, but you actually just need

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<v Speaker 2>physical touch. You actually just need to be intimate with somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually need These examples or these are facts these

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<v Speaker 2>are like examples of this concept.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you had the concept.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, because I feel like it's in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like correlation doesn't equal causation. So like we

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<v Speaker 3>could say, right that everybody who has aspirations for like

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<v Speaker 3>traditionally flashy things, big watches, you know, big necklaces, fast cars,

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<v Speaker 3>just want to be seen. Mm hm maybe, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>not exactly true exactly, So that's what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>understand from this. Has he given those examples because like

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, this is an example of how this could be,

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<v Speaker 3>or he's saying this is this is someone's fundamental drive

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<v Speaker 3>for relationship, it's touch someone's fundamental drive for a fast

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<v Speaker 3>car is power?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it was like an empowering way of

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<v Speaker 2>looking at how all these things that you think you

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<v Speaker 2>want can actually be achieved through other means that are

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<v Speaker 2>more accessible to the average person. So, yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want a really fast car but you know you can't

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<v Speaker 2>afford it, maybe actually have you considered you might actually

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<v Speaker 2>want this into skydiving? Yeah, or just yeah, I wish

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<v Speaker 2>that I had it. It was a TikTok, which is classic.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So is it like the concept of like an MVP,

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<v Speaker 3>like a minimum viable product. So often when we think

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<v Speaker 3>about the thing that we want to achieve, we think

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<v Speaker 3>of it in its most complex, beautiful, shiny form. Like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, I want the relationship, we put it on

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<v Speaker 3>a pedestal it's the trophy, when realistically there are elements

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<v Speaker 3>of a relationship that we could have access to today.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you want companionship, you can get that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You want intimacy, you can get it right now. You

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<v Speaker 3>want someone to go to the movies where you can

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<v Speaker 3>get it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're not perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>So exactly More similarly, like you really think that you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go on this amazing holiday because you've pedestalized

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<v Speaker 3>as this thing that's going to change your life. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to shake things up for you. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>invite this lust for life, and realistically, there are small

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<v Speaker 3>ways that you can get that feeling by switching up

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<v Speaker 3>your routine. Is that So it's like the there are

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<v Speaker 3>simpler ways to like bypass the thing you think you

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<v Speaker 3>need in the short term, not to so.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't want for things in the long term, but

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<v Speaker 1>an option.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I guess it just goes down to the

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<v Speaker 2>thing of like when you're on your deathbed, do you

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<v Speaker 2>are all these things that you wanted that you necessarily achieved.

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<v Speaker 2>They the things that are important?

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<v Speaker 1>So how did it resonate with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think of when you were watching that video?

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was like a good not a

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<v Speaker 2>wake up call. But it was an interesting thing to

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<v Speaker 2>like equate really big markers of success to these simpler things.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was interesting if you get swept up

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<v Speaker 2>in wanting a particular thing, you know, anyway, the jury's out.

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<v Speaker 2>If we find it, we'll post it on such sort

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<v Speaker 2>of social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you, babe. I want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to sing flex and fromes, flex and firms.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not taking back what I said. I'm adding some context.

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<v Speaker 3>In my heart of hearts, I identify as being a

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<v Speaker 3>night out. But what I am discovering is the concept

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<v Speaker 3>of identity is so fragile it what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Even? I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Blonde up until last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Literally literally, I have such a good like moral dilemma

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on. It's cooking. It's cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to reveal it too soon, but it's cooking

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<v Speaker 3>because of this exact moment not our vibes. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in Ghana, if it was midnight here, it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be midday there, So on the complete opposite end of

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<v Speaker 3>the spectrum, there was no way I could keep up

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<v Speaker 3>with what was happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't even bother.

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<v Speaker 3>But the last week I tried, so I stayed up

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<v Speaker 3>really late to four or five six am so I

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<v Speaker 3>could try and like pivot my sleep schedule, so it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to be really painful when I got back here.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't fix it because what's been happening is that

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<v Speaker 3>I've been becoming so tired at around like eight pm,

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<v Speaker 3>nine pm, ten pm, and then just going to bed

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<v Speaker 3>and then waking up at like six seven, eight am.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hate to say it. I hate to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been such a little treat waking up and

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<v Speaker 1>just mosing about.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I might just make a little breakfast or what's

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<v Speaker 3>out there, just like I think I'm understanding it. But

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing that's making it easier is the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that my eyes are open and I'm awake. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I could ever do that if I physically felt

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<v Speaker 3>still tired, which brings me to the concept of a

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<v Speaker 3>morning routine. I don't have one, and I think maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that is the formula to living a perfect life, waking

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<v Speaker 3>up and knowing what your purposes on a small scale,

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<v Speaker 3>that you have something like really yummy to eat, and

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<v Speaker 3>that like you don't have to rush out of the house,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I give myself the exact amount of time to

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<v Speaker 3>get ready, thirty minutes to shower, brush my teeth, put

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<v Speaker 3>on my makeup, put on my clothes. Even if I

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<v Speaker 3>have more time, I'm like, no, no, it needs to be efficient.

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<v Speaker 3>But the mosing around morning routine, I'm thinking, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>I learned some things. Apparently when you get up, the

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<v Speaker 3>morning light is the you told me the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>The morning light is going to determine how good your

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<v Speaker 3>sleepers did some research. Andrew Hubman talks a lot about it.

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<v Speaker 3>You need the morning light.

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<v Speaker 1>You also need to eat some stuff. I started thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about my.

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<v Speaker 3>Body like like almost like a car where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh damn, I just like to run on empty for fun.

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<v Speaker 3>And how much anxiety do you get when your petrol

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<v Speaker 3>light is on and you're just driving around.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't function never if.

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<v Speaker 2>You get it, feel your car up. It's happened to

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<v Speaker 2>me once where I've conked out. It's don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just think it really pains my heart to

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<v Speaker 3>say this as someone who likes to overcomplicate things just

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<v Speaker 3>to think more. But sometimes the simplest answer is the

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<v Speaker 3>best answer. And I've really been looking to how kids

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<v Speaker 3>are raised to do my life. Kids nap and they

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<v Speaker 3>eat regularly, and they have schedules, and they get hugs

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<v Speaker 3>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They play, kids play. That's what we should be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not morning routine, night out whatever, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>live your life like a well cared for toddler.

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<v Speaker 2>A well cared for toddler. Yeah, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the beauty and that literally the mornings it

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<v Speaker 2>is very hard to shake your identity if you have

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<v Speaker 2>for so many years behaved like a night out and

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<v Speaker 2>then at this ripe old age you realize, damn, there

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<v Speaker 2>was something in the mornings a rape what age twenty four?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because you said ripe old and I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>giving your signals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to find out now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'll just wake up really early and then I

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<v Speaker 2>understand what it's like to just get up and go.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I'm tired. I'm not going to put myself

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<v Speaker 2>through that patterning. You've been listening to The Flex and

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