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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken, your dose of the hottest

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Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Amy

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Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sister and journalist Kate.

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Speaker 1: So we've given Sophie the day off today because she's

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Speaker 1: got a cold. Now on today's show, the sexualization of

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Speaker 1: Robert Irwin, the Barbiecore trend, painting your news feeds pink,

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Speaker 1: and Mikayla Tester's holiday to Turkey takes a disturbing twist.

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Speaker 1: But first, on Monday, we spoke about how Jordan Simmy

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Speaker 1: was sending his ex Sammy Robinson cryptic messages through his

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Speaker 1: Instagram post. Now just to remind you, he shared a

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Speaker 1: poll the Road photo of himself and wrote miss her

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Speaker 1: as a caption. Now, it turned out that the caption

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Speaker 1: had actually been edited, and we put a call out

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Speaker 1: to our lovely listeners if anyone knew what the original

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Speaker 1: caption was, and thank you for those who sent it in.

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Speaker 1: It originally said miss my ex. Now if that wasn't

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Speaker 1: subtle enough. On Sammy's birthday, he shared a selfie in

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Speaker 1: a lift and wrote happy Birthday with a cake emojial. Oh. Unsurprisingly,

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Speaker 1: Sammy got tagged quite a few times. So one follower

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Speaker 1: wrote under the post, happy birthday to who, and someone responded,

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Speaker 1: tagging Sammy Robinson. Under the comment, another user wrote baby

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Speaker 1: come back and tagged Sammy.

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Speaker 2: Now this piss me off.

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Speaker 1: Amy. Can he just let her enjoy her birthday without

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Speaker 1: inserting himself into the narrative all the time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit inappropriate. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on behind the scenes. He and

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Speaker 1: Sammy could be talking again, but wow, he really is

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Speaker 1: trying to get Sammy back. See Amy, I totally disagree.

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Speaker 1: I think that this post makes it very clear that

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Speaker 1: she's not responding to him, and he's starting to get

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Speaker 1: desperate and force her to respond in a public manner. Now,

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Speaker 1: it was rather interesting because influencer updates au shared a

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Speaker 1: story that Jordan appeared in. It was one of his

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Speaker 1: friend's stories on Instagram, and in the background was Sammy

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Speaker 1: Robinson's dogs. Now a few soupers have done a little

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Speaker 1: bit more investigating, and it appears that the video was

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Speaker 1: taken at Jordan's office, which of course is also Sammy's office.

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Speaker 2: How fucking awkward must it be that they still work together? Well?

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Speaker 1: Not work together but work in that same office space. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a huge office space, isn't it. And

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Speaker 1: we did flag this months ago when they made the

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Speaker 1: decision to actually work from the same office space, that

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Speaker 1: this is going to be fucking awkward, and it appears

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Speaker 1: it is. I wonder how it goes in the office, Like,

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Speaker 1: is she just giving him the cold shoulder and ignoring

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Speaker 1: him and he's desperately trying to get her attention, because

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Speaker 1: it would be really hard to move on from someone

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Speaker 1: if they're there working in the same building.

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Speaker 2: As you every day. Hey, you did this. You were

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Speaker 2: working with your ex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why we kept getting back together all

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Speaker 1: the time. We only really properly split up when I

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Speaker 1: got a new job somewhere else and didn't have to

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Speaker 1: see him or hear about him. So we're suggesting, Sammy,

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Speaker 1: move your office if you don't want this go back again.

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Speaker 2: I know you've only just moved in. Good everyone, it's

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Speaker 2: Robert ow in here.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty stoked to announce that I've finally joined the

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Speaker 1: wonderful world of TikTok. This week, Robert Irwin graced the

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Speaker 1: cover of Stellar magazine in a way we'd never seen

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Speaker 1: him before. Gone were the car keys, and in their

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Speaker 1: place were designer clothes and a grown up looking Robert

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Speaker 1: now Amy. The public's reaction to a now eighteen year

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Speaker 1: old Robert has raised debate about the sexualization of child stars.

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Speaker 1: What sparked this conversation, Well, it was actually a comment

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Speaker 1: that resurfaced that was made by Math's contestant Dominicate. So

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Speaker 1: last month, Dom commented on one of Robert's TikTok saying, God,

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Speaker 1: you are so handsome. She also wrote, Robert, would you

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Speaker 1: like to come to the logis with me?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Some followers were quick to slam Dom. One wrote you're

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Speaker 1: literally twenty eight This is fucking creepy. I was a

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Speaker 1: fan of yours. Another labeled at gross predatory behavior. Now.

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Speaker 1: Dom defended her comments saying in Australia, legal age is sixteen.

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Speaker 2: He is eighteen. He can drink alcohol.

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Speaker 1: She continued by saying, I can ask him to come

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Speaker 1: to the logos with me and say that he is handsome.

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Speaker 1: Take a chill, peel everyone, now. I first saw this

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Speaker 1: backlash unfolding in the So Dramatic Facebook group and it

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Speaker 1: was picked up by a number of other media publications

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Speaker 1: and it's important to point out it wasn't just Dom

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Speaker 1: commenting on Robert's appearance. Thirty six year old Amy Shark

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Speaker 1: also commented that rob looked handsome, as did many other users. Now, firstly, Kate,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear what is your view on people

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Speaker 2: Is it creepy or is it okay?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there's any issues with someone just saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: you look very handsome, because we've all seen him grow

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Speaker 2: He's a lovely boy.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people love not just the

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Speaker 1: way he looks, but they are also big fans of

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Speaker 1: the way he carries himself and what he does in

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Speaker 1: terms of animal conservations. I think that's a big part

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Speaker 1: of his appeal. Whereas the comments around oh, well he's

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Speaker 1: legal age, the legal age is sixteen, Well no, it's

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Speaker 1: actually eighteen. You're considered an adult at eighteen. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: legal age of consent is sixteen and seventeen, so it

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Speaker 1: depends what state you're in. But I just thought it

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Speaker 1: got a bit murky. Then it got a bit yuck

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Speaker 1: to sort of have to say, you know, he can

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Speaker 1: have sex. I do always feel a little bit uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: anytime there is a child star or someone who has

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Speaker 1: there's so much public discussion around their appearance, and it seems.

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Speaker 2: To be so much sexualization of that person.

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Speaker 1: and everyone's always had a soft spot for him. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost like people have waited for him

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Speaker 1: a lot with female celebrities, and so it's kind of

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Speaker 1: weird now when it's turned and it's a male celebrity

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Speaker 1: and how we react to females making what seemed like

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Speaker 1: as you said, it is young women who we are

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Speaker 1: when she started appearing in Stranger Things in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and this year in February, Milli Bobby Brown turned eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and as this birthday approached like the only way I

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Speaker 1: or profanity. So basically, Kate, this was a thread that

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Speaker 1: It actually reminds me of this essay that I read

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Speaker 1: written by child star Mara Wilson. So she was the

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Speaker 1: already had photos of her feet published on a.

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Speaker 1: And it gains worse because she's had instances where her

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Speaker 1: received countless disturbing letters from grown men.

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Speaker 2: There's also other cases.

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Speaker 1: I read about Emma Watson, who faced predatory treatment when

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Speaker 1: she turned eighteen as well. So she recounted how photographers

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Speaker 1: If these photos had been published twenty four hours earlier,

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Speaker 1: just so weird to think that that stuff actually goes on,

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Speaker 1: an upskirt photo of a eighteen year old girl. Well

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Speaker 1: that there is a real double standard when it comes

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Speaker 1: is this inherent view that women aren't as sexually threatening

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Speaker 1: Dom's comments, but there's not this huge outpouring of concern really. However,

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Speaker 1: if it was reversed and a nearly thirty year old

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Speaker 1: So I think we're used to men doing it, and

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Speaker 1: There is this skew that it happens a lot more

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Speaker 1: I think it's because, as you said, that we don't

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Speaker 1: And I have noticed this double standard as well when

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Speaker 1: and it's always a young, attractive female teacher who's been

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Speaker 1: men being like, Oh, that kid's so lucky and they

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Speaker 1: we need to stop perpetrating this double standard. In the

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Speaker 1: Barbie laning plan, you might have noticed an influx of

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Speaker 1: hot pink outfits flooding your social feed. The trend is

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Speaker 1: called Barbiecore and it's all about the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Barbie girl esthetic.

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Speaker 1: The Barbie Coore hashtag took off on TikTok after photos

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Speaker 1: of Margo Robbie on set of the Barbie film were

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Speaker 1: unveiled in late April.

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Speaker 2: Now, despite the.

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Speaker 1: Movie not coming out until July twenty twenty three, the

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Speaker 1: hashtag Barbie core has had over eight million views on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Creators have been sharing their barbicore outfits, which include hot pinks,

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Speaker 1: bright neons, sparkly accessories, and heavy makeup. But is life

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Speaker 1: in plastic so fantastic in twenty twenty two? Now, Before

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Speaker 1: we get into that debate, Amy have you noticed everyone

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Speaker 1: seems to be wearing hot pink at the moment. Well,

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Speaker 1: have noticed a lot of celebrities are wearing more pink

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Speaker 1: Now. I think that's all we've got time for today.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to acknowledge that today podcast was recorded in

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Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

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Speaker 1: We pay respects to Elder's past, present and emerging now.

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