WEBVTT - REAL REALITY - RUPAUL'S UK VS THE WORLD - HANNAH CONDA 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.600 TV Reload the podcast last week. They Hey guys, welcome 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:07.760 back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.119 clicking and downloading on today's episode with Hannah Konda from 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:15.000 RuPaul's Drag Race UK Versus the World Season two, the 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:19.160 hugely successful Drag Race UK spinoff returns with the most 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:23.799 international cast ever ensembled the famed drag Race competition is 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:29.080 elevated to Olympian levels as RuPaul himself invites drag Race 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.000 glamisons from all around the world to the UK Arena. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.120 The second series began airing on STAN Australia over a 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.200 month ago, and I thought it would be a real 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.000 treat to check in with how Hannah has been going 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.400 on the series. So far, Hannah has been quite celebrated 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.319 in the drag Queen universe after being a runner up 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.720 on our down Under series Series two, which was in 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.040 twenty twenty two, but now is our strongest hope to 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.440 winning against some of these overseas legends. I will ask 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.360 about the reaction from Spanky and Queen Kong when she 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.240 told them that she'd been asked to start are on 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.520 the UK spinoff and I want to know if they 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.399 actually were a little bit jealous. We will unpack what 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.399 parts of Australian culture she chose to weave into her 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.880 esthetic and what australianisms she managed to teach some of 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.600 the internationals. There are some interesting tidbits on what you 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.559 can prepare before taking on a RuPaul's Drag Race season, 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.760 and we will find out what RuPaul was like in 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.560 the UK over what it was like filming the down 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.800 Under series. Plus, we're going to get some brilliant insights 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.040 into two of my favorites that are in this series, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.280 Tire Coffee and Scarlet Envy. And we'll find out if 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.400 there is an order in the hierarchy behind the scenes 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.240 of the franchise. There is actually so much to unpack 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.600 with Hannah, and I had such a fun time talking 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.880 to her. Let me tell you so, guys, sit back 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.440 and relax as we dive just a little bit deeper 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.200 into the world of Rupol's Drag Race UK versus the world. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.840 I'm just so excited I'm to have some representation on 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.560 a global scale. What an amazing opportunity. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.080 Yeah, it's wild. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.240 I'm incredibly honored to be able to represent no only 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.240 RuPaul's Drag Race down Under, but like just down Under 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.080 Drag in general on a global scale, because I think 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.800 sometimes we get slept on a little bit so to 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.040 be able to be there and represent what we do 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.880 down here, and it's just overwhelming. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:15.800 It's not something I take lightly either. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.680 Well, you're from my favorite series of the Australian down 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.000 Under series, so there is actually no comparison. I'm just 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.079 going to say this. I feel like I'm going to 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.799 get in trouble stance and it ring me afterwards and 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.600 tell me to cut it out. But I just feel 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.400 like that season of down Under was phenomenal. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.359 Look, I have to. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.920 Agree I may be biased, but I just think, like, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.920 even just subjectively what watching it and just seeing I 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.200 think the cast was really fabulous. I think we had 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.600 so many different characters that brought in so many different 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.400 experiences and also we just were having fun. I've noticed 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.480 as well when I went to do Versus seeing the 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.519 different mindsets of different queens, Like if you see the 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.320 Americans are very competitive and outwardly competitive, which is not 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.960 really in the nature of what we are here, like 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.480 we would be competitive. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.240 Right like Astrange's locked to Hide It You know, we're like, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.640 I'll apply for a reality TV show. I don't need 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:05.320 to win, you. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.800 Know, But I think that becomes the charm in us 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.960 then being on the show, because they're like, oh, you know, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.160 when we do say something about winning, we're. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.680 Like, oh, it would be great, but like we're here 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:15.360 for a good time. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.519 I get it, and I completely understand it. And it's 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.760 riddled throughout all Australian television. You just it comes up 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.960 again and again. We just don't want to act like 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.560 we want it that much, do you know what I mean? 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:27.600 When we do, But. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.040 Then when you get someone that maybe this is what 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.760 contributes to like the tall public syndrome in this industry 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.560 is that when you do get someone that outwardly says 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.240 that they want it, they become vilified. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.760 But then we all know what we're there for, you 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.280 know what I mean. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.360 It's so weird we have But you look at like 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.040 a character like George King of the Jungle from Survival, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.000 like he was like, I'm here to win, and everyone's like, no, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.080 don't say it. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.360 I feel like, actually he might be the subject to 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.680 the rule, right, like as in some reason, actually no. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.840 It took us two seasons to understand King George from 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.240 so vib do You. We got to see him first 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.240 being like I'm here to win, and we hated him, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:05.960 but by the time he came back, we were like, oh, 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.360 we get you, and you can be arrogant and weird 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:09.440 because we love that. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.560 It's very much the vibe, and I grew to love 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.280 him in the second season. I was like, I see 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.080 what you're doing, and I see your importance. And I 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.719 think he also realized as well, when you go on 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.880 a show like that, maybe playing a little bit more 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.000 KOI is beneficial because I mean it means that more 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.240 people will be drawn to you, you know, more people 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.560 like you, so the chances that you're getting eliminated a 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.960 less which is kind of like similar to what you. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.320 Have to do in UK Versus the World. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.800 You know, I've already had people being like, you know, oh, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.680 you're so safe, and I was like, well, why would 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.600 you want to be anywhere but safe? In this style 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.919 of the competition, it is a social aspect to the game. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.480 I suppose absolutely, I'm reading between the lines here is 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:50.920 UK versus the World your George Season two of Survivor, Ah. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.799 Yeah, I am. I'm like, I'm very I'm very aware of. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.200 What we're doing and how the game works, and I 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.320 understand it a little bit more. I think that's the 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.320 joy of going back in because you know what the 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.680 production is, so you kind of when you first walk in. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.400 When I did like what like down under it, for example, 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.080 I walked in and the first thing you see is 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.000 just a wall filled with cameras and different people that 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.880 just stand there looking at you and can't say anything 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.560 to you because they're filming a show, and you're like oh. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.720 And it's a big shock to the system because you're 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.920 like oh, And you walk into the workroom, You're like, well, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.719 I anyone going to say anything, and it's like nothing. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.719 So you know, now when you walk into it, you 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.760 kind of know what to expect. You know the ins 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.800 and outs of how everything works, so you can focus 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.560 a little bit more on just being a character in 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.760 the show and like and doing the best of what 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.640 you can. For me, it was so far in the season, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.839 I'm like, I think it's been beneficial that I've been 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.160 safe because I'm like, I got to like get the 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:41.960 lay of the land. You know, you don't want to 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.400 be you know, an early like peak too soon in 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.240 this place because that puts a target on you, obviously, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:48.719 because then you're like, oh, well you're. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.680 Top tier competition. If you're in the bottom, I'm just 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:51.560 going to get rid of you. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.479 But then also like I've loved being like aucky contentious 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.840 contestant within the fan base, this time, I love it 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.960 because I hated my sewing challenged dress. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:00.960 They hated it. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.880 The fans are like, yeah, you should have gone home, 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.640 And I was like, well, I pit the breath. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:06.760 They said ballgown. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.279 I gave you ball gown, and I argue that what 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.160 La grand Dam made was not a ball gown, just 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.440 saying controversy it. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:16.760 Bright, But I gave you the brief. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.800 I had the story down, I had like a whole 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.080 story art or my characters matched. And yes, maybe I 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.080 knew it was ghosh. I knew it was like a 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.400 little bit, but it didn't say it had to be fashionable. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.000 Why why does drag have to be fashionable? Can't it 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.760 just be tacky and gross? 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.680 Well maybe that's your brand, you know what I mean? 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.680 And if it is right, you know what I mean. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:37.479 But I thought I looked nice. 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.920 I still maintained to this day. I loved it, But yeah, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.160 so the fans were like, they were like, you're discussing 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.200 you should have gone home like a rancher should have 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.440 been saved, all this drama, and I was like, oh, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.680 shut up, hut you bitch face. I love it because 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.479 I'm like, if they're going to say stuff to me now, 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.640 I have every right to say it back, you know, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.839 because that's how life works. It's not it's not a 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.400 bark something at someone and it's a one way street. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:06:58.760 You know. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.680 We're people on the other side of this things. So 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.840 I'm like, nice stuff is, I'm going to say it. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.440 I don't care anymore. And then last week they thought 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.520 it was robbed, they thought I should have won. I'm 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.160 getting whiplash, fandom, calm down, what do you want? 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.840 I think you'd have whiplash from the fact. And we 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.800 need to talk about how protective we are of you 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.800 in this series. And there's only one of you representing Australia, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.360 and I mean, I don't know anyone that doesn't like you. 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.800 So that's a good start. It does feel like there's 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.880 a lot more protection over you surviving each episode. And 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.360 I have to admit, even for myself, when I watched 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.520 the first episode, I was like, please don't go first, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.800 please don't go first, Like it felt like it was 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.720 a part of me, you know what I mean, And 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.920 that's sweet. And then but I've spoken to so many 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.640 of the big RuPaul's Drag Race fans from all over 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.240 Australia and they all are just every episode it's hard. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.360 It's like it's I'm an anxiety mess. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.960 Oh babes, well you know what I have to say. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.040 I felt I feel the love of the Australian people 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.800 behind me. I feel so much support and so much 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.400 love coming by way from people here and in New Zealand, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.120 which is just so heartwarming. Like it has been so lovely, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.000 and that's why I'm like, I went there to do 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.679 us proud and to showcase us as a whole. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:11.920 I guess there was a part. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.360 Of it's for me obviously, but for me, my goal 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.040 was to showcase what we do down here as drag artists, 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.360 but also just as people, like we're really. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:20.960 Good time people. 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.880 You know, we have all the American UK girls come 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.480 here on tour and they're like, oh my god, you're 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:26.040 all amazing. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.880 It's so much fun. And then you. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.960 Know, we never really get invited to go back over 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.360 there to perform or whatever never reciprocated. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.520 So going into the show was like, I just want 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:35.160 the world to. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:39.080 See how fabulous we are as a country, Like we're 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.400 really good people where you know, we're very lucky in 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.960 this country, and I don't think until you travel outside 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.040 of it you realize how lucky we actually are. And 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.199 I think some I think some people could definitely do 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.920 with a little bit more traveling if I what is 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.600 or actually like reading things outside of their own little bubbles, 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.880 because we're actually very lucky here. But yeah, I just 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.719 I'm very proud of what we do here, and I'm 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.120 very proud of our community and our drag artists. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.559 And that's all I wanted to represent for. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.280 How do you get asked to do a version of 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.800 a series like this though, because I don't know whether 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.640 or not you have to fill out an application because 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.000 you can only imagine if there was an application process, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.280 every single one that every single queen that had ever 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.160 been on Drag Race would obviously apply. But I was wondering, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.040 is it an application or do you get tapped on 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:22.080 the shoulder for something like this? 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.640 It is like it's like a random tap on the shoulder. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.160 I had no idea that I'd ever be going back. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.800 To be honest, I didn't think I would ever get 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.920 asked back. Like I knew I did a good job, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.320 but I was like when I watched down Under. Although 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.000 I'm really proud of it, I just didn't really see 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.280 myself in it. Be that because I didn't showcase it 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.480 I thought I did, or be that it just didn't 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.640 make the cut, or it wasn't what my character was 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.360 meant to be on the show. I just didn't really 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.240 see myself there, and I kind of was a little 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:49.880 bit like deflated. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.199 Because it's you, you know what I mean. So it's 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:51.920 hard for you. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.160 And I think I'm a toughest critic. Yeah, we all are. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.959 We did that to ourselves. It's just human nature. Something 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.120 about your drag that is very ex scessible, even to 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.800 people that are not a part of that community. Do 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:03.200 you know what I mean? 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.880 Did you just is that a way of just saying 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:06.720 that I'm bad dressing? 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.400 No? What does that say about me? Then? 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.240 No, I'll just take it. I don't know, but. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.160 No, that's not very accessible about your warmth. You know that. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.679 That's what I'm talking about. I'm actually talking about even 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.480 the I'm talking about a collection of things I must 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:21.760 have been. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.160 I feel you and I understand it. I think you know, 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:25.240 but I have to say that. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.800 So when I went into what I'm saying with the 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.480 down Under things, I didn't really feel like I saw myself. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.360 And maybe that also could have been a mindset that 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.040 I was in when I was watching it, and so 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.760 I was like, oh, I just didn't I felt like 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.480 I had more to give, but I was like, I 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.080 don't know. If I ever get asked, I'll do it. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.040 But then I was in Newcastle in the UK with 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.520 my partner's family on holiday and then I get a 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.559 random call from a random number and they're like, hey, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.120 do you want to come back and do another drag Rings. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.400 I was like sorry, I'm just I'm sorry. I'm just 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.160 currently eating, you know, my big English breakfast in the 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.320 middle of reason or tits Ofuce. Yeah, I will, I 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.520 will come back. I just like I said, I let 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.559 everything go. I just was having in the best time. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.400 And I have to say when I first watched the 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.520 first episode when it came out, I was like I 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.240 saw more of myself in that than I did in 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.200 down Under, which again could be my mindset now, But 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.200 it also could be the freedom that I allowed myself 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.320 to just be and just enjoy the experience more so 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:19.240 than a I think. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.200 It's you've gathered your stories and it's something that we 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:22.400 all need to do, do you know what I mean? 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.840 Like it is that level up. You've had that experience 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.040 and you've grown from it, and we all start to 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.760 become more comfortable inside our skins with our nuances. You know, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.480 we start to embrace the things we didn't like about 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.120 ourselves and just think, you know what, that's anaconda. I'm 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:38.320 going to lean into that. You know. 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.080 I want to each of us and this is who 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:40.520 I am. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.839 And and I think I stopped caring as well, what 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.000 like what people are thinking of me? Ye, Like it's 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.480 too hard, Like I'm never going to please everyone. I'm 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.559 never going to be perfect. It's never going to happen. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.920 So just to get there and just to let that go. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.240 The freedom that gives you is so wild, and I 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.360 encourage everyone to kind of do that. I know we're 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.360 in the world of social media where your opinions are 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.160 shared so easily, but I encourage people to a not 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.000 think about what other people think of you, but be 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.080 also be careful with your unsolicitated opinions. Don't think that 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:14.960 every thought that comes into your mind has to be 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.959 posted on social media, because it does not need to be. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.160 And also do what we need to add in as well. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.120 I think we need to be more generous in our 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.719 observations of other people as well, and that's what we 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.560 seen to be missing. I was watching Marshall Heinz on 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.520 Australian idol over the weekend and you know, she says 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.120 you're welcome, and I don't know just the language that 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.800 she's using. That's just reinforcing something kind and why not 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.000 filter spaces with kindness? 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.280 You know, well, this is the thing. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.560 And I know that they go, oh, that's kindness is 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.880 not a reality TV show make but I do believe 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.679 that there is space for that. And I think, you know, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.800 the world can be quite harsh and in amongst the 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.839 campness and the bitchiness and all that, I think showing 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.480 elements of humanity and kindness I think is important because 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.720 otherwise we lose touch of that. I think that could 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.960 be for every reality TV show to be fair. 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.640 Like You're dangerous though, with the way like you walk 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.800 this dangerous typewrope though, of being in an industry where 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.120 you can be sassy and you can read people, but 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.400 then you still manage to make things not that, do 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:14.920 you know what I mean? 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:15.200 Ye? 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.960 Look, I think there's also like an element of it 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.480 that where I come from, and you know, we understand 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.040 that we're humans and in the industry. I came up 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.280 before drag race, so you know, I've got quite a 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.600 thick skin, and this is our love language. The way 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.000 that we talk, especially down under, you know, throwing quips 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.600 back at each other, pulling a party to those looks 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.679 or whatever. It's always done with love and with the 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.360 fact that we all know that we're all on the table. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.199 I'm self deprecating, but I'm also willing to have someone 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.720 else tell me things about me or pick make fun 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.680 of me because we're all on the table together. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.840 The audience gets it like is in yes, something's you know, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.520 if you retell the story of some of the sassy 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.000 things that people say, be like that's mean, and you're 0:13:58.000 --> 0:13:59.560 like no, no, no, you have to watch it. You have 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.840 to wonder stand because if it is truly coming from 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:03.720 a place. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.440 Coming from a place I hate, you'll know me, you. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.240 Know, yeah, but we know, we all know, we all 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.960 know moving away from us both being very oprah right now, Yeah, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.720 I need to say, were Queen Kong and Spanky Jackson 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.840 super duper jealous of you? Being asked? I feel like 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.360 they would be. I know that the three of you 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.120 have a bond. I've seen it in the flesh and 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.160 it's remarkable. But was there a small amount of jealousy? 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:28.640 You know what? 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.720 I have to be one hundred percent honest. I'm not 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.440 talking to them anymore. I'm just joking out. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.840 I'm so jaggy. They honestly, they were like, shouldn't tell 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.880 anyone of them. I did tell that when I got 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:42.440 on the show. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.760 Can you fly over with Queen Kong? 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:44.920 Though? 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.840 When you're already doing something over there? Or is? 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.440 We were on two up, we were on the Babs 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.400 store when I got the flight the confirmation, and they 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.280 honestly like, again, maybe it's a down under nature, but 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.520 it's like they were just the best support for me. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.840 They were just so proud of me, so happy and 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.040 thrilled it. But it was the same thing when Spanky won, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.080 you know, like it didn't matter to us because one 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.280 person succeeding is all of us succeeding and it's just 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.760 another stepping stone so for me to go and do 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.640 this show. They were like, like honestly, they were so 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.080 proud and supportive and they did did their best to 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.440 help me out with everything because we're, like I said, 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.080 we're in the middle of a tour and it messed 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.440 up a couple of the tour dates. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:29.880 But we just had like they were. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.960 Willing to take it on the chin, and like, you know, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.720 we lost a little bit of money on it because 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.440 I had to go, but there was just no question, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.200 like they were like, you have to do this, this 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.840 is your moment. Go out and do it, and you know, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.480 and everything that they achieved now I'm right behind them, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:46.360 like just cheering. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.480 Them on in their audience. I mean, we all and 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.320 this is again we're back at Oprah. But I mean, 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.440 I think it's true though we do need to support 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:53.200 the people. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.760 I mean, I enjoyed watching people succeed. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.360 It is a conscious decision, and I think it's silly 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.920 if we don't say that it is. But those feelings 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.960 that we sometimes get of ih wish that was me 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.080 or whatever, you know, flip that those are the moments 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.400 where you need to make a conscious decision to support 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.320 the other person, because if you do that for someone, boy, 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:12.880 you're going to get that back, you know, oh. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:13.560 Yeah, one hundred percent. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.880 And like, and you know it's natural to be like 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.160 you know, whether or not they were jealous or upset 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:18.560 or anything. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.280 They never voice that to me at all. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.000 They're on the phone now, told you. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.920 But even if they were, like you know, like I understand, 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.320 it would be very easy to do that. 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.280