Speaker 1: You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2: We all have grievances and disagreements with the people in
Speaker 2: our lives, some big, some small, and some unresolvable. When
Speaker 2: you need an argument settled once and for all, you
Speaker 2: come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and what
Speaker 2: I say goes. You better be ready to hear my ruling.
Speaker 1: Today, two queens, one song and an uneven spotlight Art
Speaker 1: Simone has brought etcetera, etcetera to the Court of Judge
Speaker 1: Gina to settle a dispute over their song. None of
Speaker 1: this will matter. Art Simone is seeking one thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in compensation for lost royalties and emotional damage.
Speaker 3: Hello, my name is Art Simone. You know me from
Speaker 3: being an ultra famous drag queen from Australia. I've come
Speaker 3: to Judge Gina to settle an issue I have with
Speaker 3: my lightest single that's out with etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 4: My name is etcetera, etcetera. I am on Season one
Speaker 4: of RuPaul's Drag Race down Under. I've come to Judge
Speaker 4: Gina today. This settles and beef with my sister Art Simone.
Speaker 4: We're on television together. We have toured together and we're
Speaker 4: basically besties. She's claiming that I cut her out of
Speaker 4: our new song when I didn't do anything of the sort.
Speaker 3: I'm going to win. I don't lose things except for
Speaker 3: drag race, but I'm going to win this. This for you. Mums.
Speaker 1: Court is now in session. Please rise the judge Gina.
Speaker 2: Art Simone, Why are you in my courtroom today.
Speaker 3: I've got a new single that's out at the moment
Speaker 3: called none of This Will Matter with my good drag friend,
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. The songs come out and she
Speaker 3: has got more lyrics in the song than I do,
Speaker 3: and that doesn't make me feel very good. First of all.
Speaker 3: Second of all, when we're performing the song live, I
Speaker 3: look like an idiot because she's singing the whole bridge
Speaker 3: and I just sidesap like this, which is really embarrassing
Speaker 3: in front of all my amazing fans. And thirdly, it's
Speaker 3: just not fair.
Speaker 2: You were both together when you recorded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were both together when we wrote the song
Speaker 3: and recorded it. We're in the same room, we're saying
Speaker 3: the same amount of lyrics, and then comes out I'm
Speaker 3: not in there as much.
Speaker 2: Right, and who made that decision.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing I don't know, because you know,
Speaker 3: we recorded it in Sydney and et cetera is from Sydney.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if she's gone behind my back
Speaker 3: and messaged the producer and said, by the way she
Speaker 3: sounds a bit shit, cut her out, or whether you
Speaker 3: know she just wanted to be the biggest star you know.
Speaker 2: So have you made any inquiries?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well I asked her and she just said I
Speaker 3: don't know, which I think is a lie.
Speaker 2: Okay, Why do you think that's a lie.
Speaker 3: Because she's a drag queen and they lie. Okay, have
Speaker 3: you met her? Look at her face?
Speaker 2: No, haven't matter her. I will meet her shortly. Okay.
Speaker 2: So you've recorded this song together, Yes, you've written it
Speaker 2: together equal amount of lyrics. However, when it's published, you're
Speaker 2: appearing in it less or your voice is less lyrics.
Speaker 2: You then go on tour and you notice how you
Speaker 2: don't have the opportunity to contribute to this song quite
Speaker 2: as much when you're on stage. Has that the problem?
Speaker 3: How can you call it a duo when it's more
Speaker 3: of a you know, seventy five percent one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty five percent. On the other side, that's two hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's work on one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: What's the braak?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not really good at mass, but I
Speaker 3: reckon I've probably.
Speaker 2: Got like, well, you sang half and half, so we'll.
Speaker 3: Go forty sixty Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: All right? So etcetera is singing sixty percent, you're singing
Speaker 2: forty percent.
Speaker 3: I can like a loser.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're not.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm sure it happened. Just sing it, babe.
Speaker 2: I want to hear from et cetera, et cetera to
Speaker 2: see what her version is. What is your response to
Speaker 2: Art's allegation.
Speaker 4: I was worried I was going to hurt Art's feelings
Speaker 4: if I told her the truth, which is the fact
Speaker 4: that she is on the song just as much as me.
Speaker 4: Her voice is just of a lower, more masculine frequency,
Speaker 4: so it blends in with the drums and guitar, and
Speaker 4: my beautiful angelic chorus rises above the instrumentation.
Speaker 3: Do you mean shrill?
Speaker 4: Excuse me? Are you being spoken to? I'm just saying
Speaker 4: that my voice cuts through like a hot knife through butter.
Speaker 2: So you think that there's equal distribution of your voices,
Speaker 2: just that it's coming across differently because of the tone.
Speaker 4: I'm no scientist, but I think it has something to
Speaker 4: do with the audio frequency that is recorded on the track.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this, Yes, how does
Speaker 2: that work when you are performing the track live and
Speaker 2: we have got Art telling us that she is standing
Speaker 2: there side tapping? Who sings that part of the song
Speaker 2: where she's side tapping?
Speaker 4: This is the other problem than my beef that I
Speaker 4: wanted to bring up. Art likes to claim she doesn't
Speaker 4: have as many words because she can't remember them. She
Speaker 4: doesn't have the memory to remember the words. So to
Speaker 4: conceal the fact she doesn't know her own lyrics, she
Speaker 4: just doesn't sing them.
Speaker 2: She just side taps and who sings? Is there just
Speaker 2: a pause in the song?
Speaker 4: I have to sing it because she can't remember the words,
Speaker 4: and if no one's saying it would just go silent, then
Speaker 4: we'd both be side tapping.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go back to the recording. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: no side tapping in the recording. It's your voice, it
Speaker 2: is my voice, that's true. So did you record that together?
Speaker 2: And was this side tapping while you were recording. Is
Speaker 2: that why there's a difference in there.
Speaker 4: It was a bit of side tapping. Actually, it was
Speaker 4: a bit of space in the recording studio and we,
Speaker 4: you know, as a kids, like say, we bust it
Speaker 4: down a little bit, We shook it round. We had
Speaker 4: a good time.
Speaker 3: I'd say that I wasn't recording the same amount of
Speaker 3: lyrics as you. We recorded every single line together. We're
Speaker 3: not together, but we both all did every single line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're in the song, they're in the recording,
Speaker 4: but when we sing it live, you just don't know
Speaker 4: the words.
Speaker 3: I think she's jumping around first, she's too shrill to
Speaker 3: be in this song. You know, she just cuts through
Speaker 3: like a hot knife through butter. And now apparently.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to stop you there. So I think
Speaker 2: I need to hear this song.
Speaker 4: And the grass is always green side.
Speaker 2: Well, that's all sounded like you.
Speaker 3: That was actually etcetera. I was in that. That was
Speaker 3: et cetera. And I I just had the thing where
Speaker 3: it goes pushing daisies, that's all I said.
Speaker 2: That's all you said, Why do you recall when you
Speaker 2: recorded it? Saying more than that?
Speaker 3: I recorded all the lines.
Speaker 2: What, so what lines are missing?
Speaker 3: You meant to be singing together? Okay, singing the words
Speaker 3: all of it, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The whole thing. Yeah, and so et cetera, saying that
Speaker 2: you did. But because your voice is what is it monotone?
Speaker 4: I would say, a flat monotone colorless.
Speaker 2: H Well, okay, that's probably enough if you want to
Speaker 2: stay friends today. And so so you think that the
Speaker 2: voice is there, but no one can hear it.
Speaker 4: So what you're saying, Yeah, like whales communicate over long
Speaker 4: stretches of ocean subsonically, they go to go oh, and
Speaker 4: they can hear each other. Fine, maybe art just needs
Speaker 4: to find people in the same range of sound as her.
Speaker 2: So Art, can you sing that for me? What you're
Speaker 2: meant to be singing?
Speaker 3: Things are never but the same when you six feet
Speaker 3: and they say the grass is always greener on the
Speaker 3: other side.
Speaker 2: Okay, et cetera. Can you sing your version please?
Speaker 4: Things are never the same when you're six feet and
Speaker 4: they say the grass is oh, where's green on the
Speaker 4: other side?
Speaker 2: Okay. So what I've just listened to is that actually
Speaker 2: the recording that's been published.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the recording that is the bridge from
Speaker 3: the song.
Speaker 2: And you think you can't hear yourself in that.
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't in that. I had two words pushing
Speaker 3: daisy something.
Speaker 4: But it's not all the song. And I actually I
Speaker 4: have an audio recording from the song, and I have
Speaker 4: the chorus where you have quite a large amount of
Speaker 4: not only creative control, but vocal presence. If you would
Speaker 4: like to call it that. If we can roll that up,
Speaker 4: I'd love jenety hear it, and maybe we can be
Speaker 4: a bit more honest. I'll hear that about what's going on?
Speaker 2: Thank you? So who's saying when the music stops?
Speaker 3: Oh, that is me? But I just want to say,
Speaker 3: that's not singing. That was speaking.
Speaker 2: Okay. So is that the equivalent of you speaking in
Speaker 2: that track or are you missing parts?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I was speaking that yeah, okay, So that might explain
Speaker 2: why etcetera. Saying that that you're actually singing in the
Speaker 2: other parts of the track but we can't hear you,
Speaker 2: but we can actually hear you when you talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm singing in the other bits too, okay. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I speak then sing them speak.
Speaker 2: Okay. So what do you want from me? What do
Speaker 2: you want me to do about?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: You know, we can't re record the song. It's already
Speaker 3: out there, unfortunately. So I'm thinking I need like a
Speaker 3: thousand bucks.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would be very curious to know how you've
Speaker 2: come up with this amount of one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Well, one thousand dollars is just looks nice as a number.
Speaker 3: But also, you know, if I'm talking about actual breakdowns,
Speaker 3: because I am really good at maths.
Speaker 2: I reckon you are good at maths or you're not.
Speaker 3: Well, I've decided I am.
Speaker 2: Now you are. Okay, when there's a dollar sign.
Speaker 3: There's a dollar sign, business brain hits in, you know,
Speaker 3: self employed drag queen here. You just got to do
Speaker 3: what you've got to do, okay, So a thousand bucks
Speaker 3: all right? So I'm thinking two hundred and fifty bucks
Speaker 3: is for you know, emotional trauma and embarrassment, right because
Speaker 3: you know that's just oh well, it's.
Speaker 2: A cheap deal.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been embarrassed over a lot more.
Speaker 2: I reckon I could afford to embarrass you a few
Speaker 2: times today. Then it's two hundred and fifty dollars a hitch.
Speaker 3: The other seven hundred and fifty dollars is my payment
Speaker 3: back for not being in the song fifty to fifty?
Speaker 2: Are you trying to get me to apportion your royalties differently?
Speaker 2: Is that what you're asking for?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I wanted the royalties to be different, but
Speaker 3: I don't want to take more than seven hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty dollars because I think that's fine.
Speaker 2: Okay, So break that down for me.
Speaker 3: Okay, So singles are a dollar twenty nine, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: So I want to have sixty percent of that dollar
Speaker 3: twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Sixty percent, okay, And you think how many albums will sell?
Speaker 3: I reckon seven to fifty, seven hundred and fifty albums. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be really good.
Speaker 2: One right, seven really good? That's really good?
Speaker 3: Is it like twenty? So I think they're really.
Speaker 2: Seven hundred and fifty times one dollar twenty nine, and
Speaker 2: so that's eight hundred and thirty dollars fifty.
Speaker 3: Which is close to one thousand. That's why I came
Speaker 3: up with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nonsense.
Speaker 3: It's close to one thousand. You know, you round up,
Speaker 3: you know when you get to like five.
Speaker 2: But why should you be paid more for doing less?
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know. Why would you I
Speaker 2: do want you to tell me what?
Speaker 3: Because I did the work in studio. I did the
Speaker 3: work in studio, I did the recording, and.
Speaker 2: You've divided it fifty to fifty. But now you're saying
Speaker 2: you do less and you side shuffle paid.
Speaker 3: More because she gets to have more of the limelight.
Speaker 2: No, I don't agree. How does that happen? You're still
Speaker 2: up on stage?
Speaker 3: Oh excuse me.
Speaker 2: And et cetera. What do you say? What solution do
Speaker 2: you see is fair?
Speaker 4: I want some compensation?
Speaker 2: Oh do you want compensation as well?
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you what, Art, I've got another beef as well.
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you opening a butcher? What's going on? Beef? Beef?
Speaker 3: Beef beef?
Speaker 2: Okay? What's your compensation for? Well?
Speaker 4: When we recorded the music video, I wore a pair
Speaker 4: of fishnet tights onto the set, and Art deliberately took
Speaker 4: the horns on her wig and she ripped my fish
Speaker 4: net tights and they cost seven dollars and ninety nine cents. Okay,
Speaker 4: So I want that seven dollars and ninety nine cents reimbursed,
Speaker 4: and then an additional one thousand, nine hundred and ninety
Speaker 4: three dollars for the embarrassment of having to wear ripped
Speaker 4: tights on the set of a music video. Although they
Speaker 4: fit in with the aesthetic of a pop punk song,
Speaker 4: I think it was embarrassing to not be perfect on
Speaker 4: the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but can I say, can we roll back the
Speaker 3: music video and see that you are not wearing any
Speaker 3: rip fish nets in the music Now I.
Speaker 2: Just ask you, how do you quantify one nine hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety three dollars?
Speaker 4: Because my embarrassment's worth a little bit more than arts,
Speaker 4: because I'm not embarrassed as often.
Speaker 2: So saying her embarrassment's worth two hundred and fifty dollars,
Speaker 2: you're saying your embarrassment's worth one nine hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: three dollars. Well, you can say a million dollars if
Speaker 2: you like. You have to persuade me. Why would I say? Yes?
Speaker 2: Of course, you have to quantify it with loss, monetary
Speaker 2: loss or compensation for trauma or injuries. So you've you've
Speaker 2: quantified seven dollars ninety nine for your hosary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh yeah it is and is hosary. I actually
Speaker 4: wore the stockings today just so you can see.
Speaker 3: Ah, how long ago was the recording November last Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: And have you worn those Hosary sins?
Speaker 4: Well? No, I just keep them in a drawer and
Speaker 4: I bring them out for special occasions when I'm around
Speaker 4: it and make it feel bad.
Speaker 2: And have you had an argument like this in the past.
Speaker 3: No, it's quite upsetting to me.
Speaker 4: I would say, Yeah, it's absolutely taken a toll on
Speaker 4: my mental, physical, spiritual health. I would say that I'm
Speaker 4: much further away from God than I'd like to be.
Speaker 2: What has taken a toll on your mental, physical, and
Speaker 2: spiritual health? What has well?
Speaker 4: The fact that my good duty here isn't as close
Speaker 4: to me is i'd like her to be. And the
Speaker 4: fact that she's claiming that I didn't include her in
Speaker 4: a project that meant a lot to us. She's never
Speaker 4: brought this up to me. If she said, hey, I'd
Speaker 4: love to sing some of your lines, then I would
Speaker 4: have said, yeah, sure, we can share them around. I'm
Speaker 4: not precious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we can't record the single. It's already out
Speaker 3: there and being distributed across selling almost seven hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty copies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you never brought it up when you heard
Speaker 4: the song the first time. You only brought up when
Speaker 4: we started performing it live.
Speaker 3: Because you're really hard to talk to you, and that's
Speaker 3: why I had to bring it to Judge Gina.
Speaker 4: Well that you're really hard to talk to as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to stop you both there. I've heard enough.
Speaker 2: I'm going to deliberate now, I just need a moment.
Speaker 1: Judge Gina it is deliberating and will soon hand down
Speaker 1: her verdict. Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2: Art Simone, and etcetera, etcetera. I've heard your evidence and
Speaker 2: made my decision, et cetera, et cetera. Your counterclaim of
Speaker 2: seven dollars ninety nine for ripped tights has been dismissed.
Speaker 2: Art Simone. Your claim for eight hundred and thirty dollars
Speaker 2: and fifty cents compensation has also been denied. Nothing further.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You know, I was hoping to get my seven dollars
Speaker 4: and ninety nine cents for my ripped tights, but that's okay.
Speaker 4: What I'm going to do is just maybe steal a
Speaker 4: pair of arts unripped tights and replace my with hers,
Speaker 4: and then put my ripped tights in her suitcase, but
Speaker 4: not tell her about it, and then I hope she
Speaker 4: doesn't take me to judge Gina over that next time.
Speaker 3: I am feeling absolutely devastated about today's outcome. It is
Speaker 3: just horrendous news to hear from my idol, Gina.
Speaker 4: I feel like my disagreement with Art Simone has been
Speaker 4: settled once and for all, but I think that she'll
Speaker 4: invent new ways to try to rise above me and
Speaker 4: step on my creativity and my hope and happiness as
Speaker 4: a human being.
Speaker 3: I do not feel like I've got a fair trial
Speaker 3: at all. Gina was just so stuck up on all
Speaker 3: of the little details. It was all about numbers, but
Speaker 3: it was meant to be about me.
Speaker 4: I think my relationship with Art Simone are we fine?
Speaker 4: I see tomorrow we are good.
Speaker 3: I think this has affected my relationship with et cetera.
Speaker 3: But I'm a true professional and I'm used to working
Speaker 3: with dogs, so I'm gonna keep working with her whether
Speaker 3: I like it or not. But I'd never want to
Speaker 3: see those shame stockings ever again. I do not feel
Speaker 3: like our disagreement has been settled once and for all
Speaker 3: at all. I'm still devastated, and I'm going to be
Speaker 3: reminded of it every time I hear that song.
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