1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: One of the topics that got Crystal and I talking 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: yesterday and quite a few of you talking, was the 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: fact that core Logic we know that it's been a 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: bumper year in the property market with several interest rate 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: well a bumpy here, i should say, rather than bumper, 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: a bump a year, a tough year for a lot 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: of people with those interest rate hikes, surging inflation and 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: drop in affordability. But core Logic's best of the Best 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: report for the year sums it all up, and joining 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: me on the line to discuss the highlights and some 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: of the other areas of interest is indeed core Logic's 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: head of research, Eliza Owen, Good morning to you. 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Eliza, good morning, thanks for having me. 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. Now talk me 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: through firstly with the Northern Territory. The top five sales. 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Across the Northern Territory. We've seen some pretty empty sales 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: over the year. Number one was an eight point five 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: million dollar at Sanny Bay one hundred and eight East 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Point Road, and that that ranked to the fifth highest 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: was a two point one million dollar house sale for 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: one to three Attrara Road in Brincan, So some pretty 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: impressive results there. And it really reflects a lot of 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: resilience that we've seen over the Darwin market in particular 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: over the past year, where values across the region have 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: held up five point five percent higher in the past 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: twelve months, as the rest of Australia's housing market has 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: sort of moved into this graded downswing a mid rising 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: interest rate. 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: And why do you reckon we have sort of been 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: better positioned here in the Northern Territory than what some 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: of the other states have been. 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: I think it comes back to price points. Even though 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: we are talking about top sales of eight point five 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: million dollars, it really is much larger sort of sale 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: price that we're seeing in some of the more volatile cities. 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: So the top sale across the Sydney market was around 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: sixty two million dollars. And I think when you have 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: to borrow so much more to buy into those expensive markets, 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: the property values become more sensitive to changes in interest rates, 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: Whereas we know with the territory, the performance across housing 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: markets has been a lot more steady over the past 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: few years and broader fluctuations historically have more been tied 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: to the mining sector. 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Eliza, talk us through then some of the 45 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: best performing, well the best performing suburbs when it comes 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: to houses for twenty twenty two. 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the best performing houses. I'd say the thing 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: that they have in common are that they're probably again 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: more in some of the affordable price points, although it 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: was a bit of a mixed bag. Top of the 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: list was the suburb of Johnston in Darwin with growth 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: of fourteen point seven percent. We also saw this across 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: houses in Woodrops and Gray and then coming in at 54 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: number four we had Nightcliffs, so sort of back to 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: that higher price point level with value sitting four point 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: two percent, sorry, fourteen point two percent higher over the year. 57 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: And then on the other end of the spectrum we 58 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: have declines for twenty twenty two were strongest across the 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: house market of Howard Springs, so values down four percent 60 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: there over the year and the median sitting at around 61 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty seven thousand, and again, what's really 62 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: interesting about that is it's just such a mild decline 63 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: relative to what we've seen in some parts of the 64 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: country where values are falling by double digits over the 65 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: course of the year. 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: And what was the expensive suburbs, so. 67 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: The most expensive house market across Darwin was Nightcliff with 68 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: a median house value coming in at nine hundred and 69 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: nineteen thousand. Following that we had Bunny Bay coming in 70 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: at a median house value of eight hundred and eighty 71 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: four thousand, so probably no surprises there. Those are the 72 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: suburbs that usually take out the most expensive list, beautiful 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: waterfront settings and just really a lovely part of town 74 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: of course. And then in the unit market, topping the 75 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: list was the suburb of Babe with a median value 76 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: of about five hundred and fifty thousand for a typical 77 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: unit across the suburb. 78 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: And Eliza when we talk about you know, when we 79 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: talk about and I'm not too sure whether this really 80 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, whether the research takes into account the rental 81 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: yields and how things are going it comes to rents 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: as well, and what kind of availability we've got. Did 83 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: you get the opportunity to have much of a look 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: at that. 85 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, We've kept a very close eye on this 86 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: over the past year because it's been such a central 87 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: point of the narratives in particularly housing affordability at the moment. 88 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: So the Darwin market had a really relatively early surge 89 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: in rents through the pandemic period. Annual growth ind and 90 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: rent values peaked at about seventeen percent in the year 91 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: to August of twenty twenty one, so that's a huge uplift. 92 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: And as we've come through to twenty twenty two, what 93 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: we've noticed is the annual rate of growth on top 94 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: of that has been getting smaller and smaller, but by 95 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: no means have rent values fallen. We've seen in the 96 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: year to November that rents are up a further five percent. 97 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: So what this means is that there is this ongoing 98 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: challenge for people looking to rent across Darwin with very 99 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: low levels of supply continued increases in rent values. But 100 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: on the other side of the coin, it means that 101 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: there's a lot of opportunity for investors and rent yields 102 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: tend to be where Darwin really shines on those top 103 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: national lists as well. So this analysis has showed us 104 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: that nationally, Darwin was representing in the top ten highest 105 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: rent yield markets across the whole country, with the Coaling 106 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: and modern houses boasting rent yields of almost seven percent, 107 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: and units across Bakewell, Milner and Coconut Grove have seen 108 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: gross rent yields over seven percent. 109 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: And then what about in the likes of how things 110 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: going both you know, I guess more so in the 111 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: sales area when you talk about places like Tenant Creek, 112 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: Ella Springs and Catherine Now more regional parts of the 113 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Northern territory. 114 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've again seen some pretty resilient growth across 115 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: the rest of the territory as well. Some of the 116 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: highest performing growth that we've seen in the regional house 117 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: markets have been across are Luwin and You'll grow I 118 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: hope I'm seeing that. Yeah, so up eight point three 119 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: percent over the year and that was followed by Catherine 120 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: East at six percent. So those are some really solid results. 121 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 2: And again when it comes to the quote unquote worth 122 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: performing house markets, we have braking in Northern territories outback 123 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: which was down two percent over the year, and again 124 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: that's just a really mild result compared to what we've 125 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: seen in you know, what is the fastest rate tightening 126 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: cycle oncord es? 127 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Actually, Eliza, what do you think you know, based on 128 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: the research that you've done for this year and you 129 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: know the way that things are tracking when we talk 130 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: about those interest rates and also the surging inflation. What 131 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: do you think we're going to see when it comes 132 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: to the property market around Australia and particularly here in 133 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory as we go into twenty twenty three. 134 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: I think that even though the territory has been really 135 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: resilient performance in twenty twenty two, it's probably not completely 136 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: immune to ongoing rate rises and also the way that 137 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: higher inflation affects the household budget. When we talk about 138 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: property purchases, for example, it's very hard for people to 139 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: say the deposit when they have to put more and 140 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: more of their savings into everyday cost of living. So 141 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: that is something that could affect the purchasing market in 142 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and see some continued declines in house prices. 143 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: I think the difference is that where we would expect 144 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: a sharper decline in the East Coast, for example, where 145 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: property values are really expensive and people have to extend 146 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: themselves quite a bit, it's probably going to look like 147 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: a much milder outlook for the Darwin market and the 148 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: Greater Territory. I think rents will also ease off over 149 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. We've started to see things like more 150 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: reactionary moves from people who may it's spread out and 151 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: taken up their own space through the pandemic instances of 152 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: reshare housing for example, or share houses reforming so people 153 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: can cope with higher rank costs, and that'll help free 154 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: up the market a little bit and hopefully loosen it 155 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: a bit in twenty twenty three as well. Well. 156 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Eliza Owen, Core Logic, Head of Research, we really appreciate 157 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: you having a chat with us this morning. Thank you 158 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: so much for your time. 159 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: Of course, take care and have a wonderful holiday break 160 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: You too, Surmiza