1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Joining us on the line right now is the Tourism 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Top End General manager Glenn Hinley for a real change 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: of pace. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Good morning Glenn, Good morning Katie. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: No, hell yeah, really well now, Glenn, we know that 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: the borders are going to be opening on Monday to Melbourne. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Yesterday we spoke to Alex Bruce from Hospitality Inta about 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: the changes to contact tracing and the additional safeguards which 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: are going to be in place as tourists from additional 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: locations start to arrive. What kind of impact do you 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: think it's going to have with the Melbourne hotspot being lifted. 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Are we going to see plenty more tourists traveling to 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: the territory. 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: We will see more. What we do know is that 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: we are in a massive competition when it comes to 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: tourists who are from safe places that are able to 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: travel around Australia. Queensland in there South Australia's in their 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: New South Wales and of course the Victorian government are 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: spending million now on encouraging Victorians to holiday in Victoria. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: So we are really grateful that Tourism and TEE had 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: the foresight to maintain a level of clever advertising through 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: the time where Victorians sadly locked down at home but 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: sitting there watching their TVs with their mobile phones and 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: iPads and phone of them, so still getting that messaging. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: So now is the time that we hope that that 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: pays off and that Victorians that are well and from 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: places that remain safe or able to travel north. So 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: it's a very competitive market domestically, I put to that 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: as well. You know last year, last year twenty nineteen, 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: there was eleven point six million Australians went outbound. Half 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: of those were for holidays, so that's five point eight 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: million Australian holidays went overseas last year arly Thailand. 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: So we need them to go some way, We need 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: them to come to the territory. Glenn, you'd think the 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Victorians have had enough of Victoria at this point. 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, but I also think you know, one of 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: the things that we think about when we're talking about 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: the marketing and talking about that is the psychology and 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: how quickly things change, and that's all deeply embedded in 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: people's minds. Now that and we saw this couple of 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: weeks ago with South Australia with people who just pop 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: down for the weekend to see there maybe not so 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: well grand grandparent and then found to get back with 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: two weeks. So this is a whole new level thinking 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: for people in their travel. But that said, we are 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: we've done very well to manage this situation right throughout 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: the year. And I think one of the other things 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: that tourism absolutely supports your conversation with alex SA and 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: alexcited working closely with government on this that having that 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: contact tracing capability to be able to stay in a 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: healthy position where we are just so important for businesses, 52 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: for the staff, and of course for the communities. 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Now Glenn, we also know, or we've certainly seen nationally 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: in media reports that there's been up to a three 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent decrease in flight purchases into Queensland after they 56 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: declared that they're opening their borders to Victoria and New 57 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: South Wales. Have we found that there's been much of 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: an increase, you know, over the over recent months, so 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: sort of month or months into the northern territory, we. 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Have been seeing gradual increases in that air capacity. Absolutely, 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: and I wouldn't be saying it's in those three hundred percent, 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to track down those that's all right. 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Point that's whether that's someone who's been repeated on and on, 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: but definitely you know, my counterpart over in Queensland was 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: saying yesterday that when that announcement came, the pent up 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: demand that they had for them the phone for ring 67 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: Hot and they've got very busy, very quickly. But also 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: with that, so did the pricing. Where it was last 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: week quite cheap to go and a holiday and place 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: like Queen's and suddenly got very expensive. And that's what 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: demand does. So I think from a territory point of view, 72 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: we are very competitive price wise. We offer a great destination. 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: We will see the increase in the aircraft in air capacity, 74 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: we're seeing that now and we've got to keep working 75 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: hard to maintain our space. The decision makers at the 76 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: airlines Quannas and Virgin that when they're thinking about where 77 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: they're going to be allocating the aircrafts, they're bringing them 78 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: back on to line that we stay top of mind. 79 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: And I know that team of Tourism and Tea are 80 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: doing that. We're certainly doing everything we can to. 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: Support them now, Glenn, we've spoken on numerous occasions about 82 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: the tourism vouchers and how they've gone. I know that that. 83 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Obviously plenty of people disappointed when they missed out, But 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: then there was the second chance to get your hand 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: hands on a tourism voucher, wasn't there. 86 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was, So three thousand people on the wait 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: list would have got their vouchers yesterday this morning, there'll 88 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: be another three thousand going out today. So that's an 89 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: amalgamation of people who got a voucher and didn't get 90 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: to use it within the two weeks expiry date, or 91 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: they didn't use the full two hundred dollars amount. So 92 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: therefore that goes back into the kiddy and other vouchers 93 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: are able to be able to be created by that 94 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: understand amount. 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: So did you say, did you say three thousand yesterday 96 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: and three thousand more today today? 97 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, going out. So that that's because there's two parts 98 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: to this kdie. There's the vouchers, but there's also that 99 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: two hundred dollar bonus claim for people who traveled four 100 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 2: hundred kilometers, So they've got to keep that in check 101 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: so that for every voucher there's a capacity of fell 102 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: and travels four hundred kilometers, goes and spends a couple 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: of nights in Kakadoo, spends a couple of days in Catherine, 104 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: then spends a day a couple of days in Litchfield. 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: That's a four hundred kilometer trip. So therefore they are 106 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: per person, per voucher able to make an application to 107 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 2: Tourism NTEE for a two hundred dollars additional bonus claim. 108 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: But what we're finding is so many of the voucher 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: holders are thinking, it's Christmas. I'm going to go and 110 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: buy some experiences for my family. I've got even laws 111 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: coming to town. I want to take them around to 112 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: go use the vouchers for themselves and get mother in 113 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: law to pay for the rest. And also, you know 114 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: they're thinking about what the kids are going to be 115 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: doing during school holidays and buying passes of attractions and 116 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: on local tourers, so that extra bonus claim isn't being spent. 117 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: So when that vouch has been redeemed and there's no 118 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: bonus claim attach to it, that can be converted into 119 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 2: a voucherly. 120 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it sounds as though they've been 121 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: incredibly popular. There'll be lots of happy people today, or 122 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: three thousand happy people today, and yesterday as well finding 123 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: out that they're able to get their hands on a voucher. 124 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: Now, since the start of round two, we've had close 125 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: to eight thousand vouchers redeemed. Eighty three percent of those 126 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: have booked online, and of that we have we're tracking 127 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: these numbers because we've done a lot of work in 128 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: terms of helping our businesses get digitally connected in real 129 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: time so you can make those bookings. And it's eighty 130 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: four percent of all the sales since the start of 131 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: the second round are instantly available either over the counter, 132 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: you can just you can tell I want that book, 133 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: gives you a credit card, you walk away with the voucher, 134 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: or go online and book it in real time and 135 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: get your voucher and get on your way well and 136 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: get out and support great tourism operators at the top end. 137 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: They're just so grateful. 138 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. Got to make sure we're supporting 139 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: our tourism operators. Well, Glenn Hengley, it's always lovely to 140 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: talk to you, mate. We really appreciate your time this morning. 141 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: Tatie, thank you very much, and thank you everybody. Thank 142 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: you you too. Mate. 143 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we'll talk to you before Christmas that is 144 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: a tourism top end General manager there, Glenn Hingley