Speaker 1: Laura, come on hello Australia.
Speaker 2: Hello, happy Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1: We're here thanks to chemists, we're house heading today. Great
Speaker 1: savings every day. How is your Mother's Day?
Speaker 3: Everyone?
Speaker 2: Happy day after Mother's Day?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 5: Just?
Speaker 2: How long does it go for?
Speaker 3: You can get one day, stop rapping it.
Speaker 2: You know what, it's your.
Speaker 4: Birthday, and then it becomes like birthday month or birthday week.
Speaker 2: It's like Mother's Day week.
Speaker 3: No, it's over. Yeah, it's done.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean my kids were cute.
Speaker 4: They got they brought me breakfast in bed, and then
Speaker 4: I went and danced for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4: I was like, how am I going to spend this
Speaker 4: Mother's Day? And it ended up being away from my
Speaker 4: children dancing with the stars I had. I was trying, Okay,
Speaker 4: if you don't know, yeah, I'm doing dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 4: and that requires commitment and brutal training and no one
Speaker 4: cares if it's Mother's Day or not.
Speaker 2: You will get on that dance floor. How long did
Speaker 2: you dance for on Mother's Day? Five hours?
Speaker 4: But then we had a cute family dinner afterwards, so
Speaker 4: we still I mean, everyone's gonna think I'm neglecting my children.
Speaker 2: I had plenty of quality time with the kids.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for therapy in ten years with your
Speaker 1: three daughters, and they go, Mum was absent.
Speaker 3: Where was she? Was she busy cooking or working? No,
Speaker 3: she was doing the samba.
Speaker 2: The sumber, not the samba.
Speaker 3: Oh, she's such a dancing snow. Look at her, it's
Speaker 3: all sumber.
Speaker 4: It does feel particularly ridiculous when I'm like, I have
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 2: I'm very busy. I'm dancing.
Speaker 3: We have a big show. Look.
Speaker 4: Speaking of my children, Marley May, she's four years old.
Speaker 4: She walked in on my wonderful husband and I in
Speaker 4: a very compromising position recently, and look, I think I'll
Speaker 4: be paying for therapy sessions for the rest of her life.
Speaker 6: I'm guessing you went wrestling. I'm assuming you're in the horizontal.
Speaker 3: Dance of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, naked wrestling.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's on the way here at the pickup around Australia.
Speaker 1: It is the pickup Monday. Avou, Britt, Laura and Mitch
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Speaker 1: Chemists Warehouse. Terms and conditions apply. Well, I see this
Speaker 1: influencer has decided to take things next level. Paula Gonu
Speaker 1: had to get surgery. You know, influencers and normal.
Speaker 2: People guys, they have to.
Speaker 1: Yes, she had to be awake to watch her doctor
Speaker 1: perform surgery on her knee, and she's a pretty big influencer.
Speaker 1: She requested the doctor, however, keep a piece of cartilage
Speaker 1: from the surgery that they were removing from her knee
Speaker 1: so she could go home and cook it in a
Speaker 1: spaghetti bolognaise.
Speaker 2: No, she did not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thirty year old ate with her boyfriend. What
Speaker 1: was a spaghetti bolog naise with a crunchy little piece
Speaker 1: of her own cartilage in it?
Speaker 2: This is actually disgusting.
Speaker 3: Why did she do it?
Speaker 6: Did not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, I wanted to eat it and I
Speaker 1: ate it with my boyfriend because it was part of me,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to put it back in my body.
Speaker 1: So I made a bolig knaise and put it in
Speaker 1: and we happily ate it.
Speaker 2: That's not good for you.
Speaker 4: Also, a girlfriend that is not going to stay inside
Speaker 4: your body, that's going to go straight through you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: And okay, surely she's doing this.
Speaker 4: Firstly, she must have not told the doctor what she
Speaker 4: was doing, because no one's going to give you. No
Speaker 4: doctor is going to give you a part of your
Speaker 4: own body to take home and cook it up.
Speaker 6: No, a lot of doctors will give you stuff to
Speaker 6: take home. But she must have not for the purpose
Speaker 6: of eating.
Speaker 4: So she must have said I want it for a
Speaker 4: memento or something. She's not going to say, Hey, I'm
Speaker 4: going to go home and cook myself as bag.
Speaker 2: But I just looked this up. She's pretty big deal.
Speaker 6: She's got two million followers, so like she's influencing a
Speaker 6: lot of people into cannibalism.
Speaker 1: Well, the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners told the
Speaker 1: publication that's writing this, they don't recommend eating your own
Speaker 1: cartlage after surgery.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think I needed a board of recommendation.
Speaker 4: Do you think that she has done it for more
Speaker 4: Instagram likes and followers?
Speaker 2: Like this has obviously made her so viral totally?
Speaker 4: Do you think that that's why she decided to film
Speaker 4: it and share it on social media?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I reckon she's getting a lot of backlash.
Speaker 6: I reckon she's done it because you know a lot
Speaker 6: of people, For example, a lot of people get their
Speaker 6: placenta made into like capsules and they consume it because
Speaker 6: they I mean, we know placentis full of nutrients curtly different,
Speaker 6: but there's a I think it's that ideas. I think
Speaker 6: she feels like it's a part of her body that
Speaker 6: was there, so it can co back in, but it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Work like it comes right back out.
Speaker 2: That's no.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: Also, I mean, look each to their own, but I
Speaker 4: don't think I would want to eat my own placenta.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a whole ploy because now she'll
Speaker 1: be selling her own like me, Yeah, it'll be part
Speaker 1: of her merch line, like it's a brilliant brand. You
Speaker 1: need to follow me, like you know, I'm putting a
Speaker 1: cap on this like she can think. I think what
Speaker 1: the content that she can do. I think she's a genius.
Speaker 3: There to follow me? You know what I scab on?
Speaker 3: Need it please start? I'm gonna put it up all right.
Speaker 3: You want to buy his male elbow?
Speaker 2: Can we please stream it on tiktokty?
Speaker 6: You make me.
Speaker 3: Influences scumm of the earth.
Speaker 4: We did speak about it earlier last week. You said
Speaker 4: that your mum kept your foreskin. You could eat that mitch.
Speaker 1: Like a little breath mint that escalated Laura Burn, Wow,
Speaker 1: you influences.
Speaker 2: What's up next, Mitch?
Speaker 1: All right, next on the show. Yes, Brittany, a baby's
Speaker 1: been born and you want to tell us all about it.
Speaker 2: Baby has been born, Mitch. Just watch as any baby.
Speaker 3: It is the UK's first baby born to.
Speaker 6: Wait for it, three parents DNA.
Speaker 1: That's next on the pickup. Welcome to the pickup around
Speaker 1: the country and it's Monday afternoon. Britt Laura and Mitch
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Speaker 6: The first ever baby created from three genetic parents has
Speaker 6: been born in the UK.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. It sounds like a wild Saturday night they had.
Speaker 1: Well, because normally you need an embryo, right, and then
Speaker 1: you need a sperm and then that's yes, egg and egg.
Speaker 1: This confusing, guys. I'm not going to have a biological
Speaker 1: baby anytime soon. So this is not my ballpark.
Speaker 6: Is actually biological baby, Mitch. It's just that you just
Speaker 6: need to use your sperm. You don't have to the deed,
Speaker 6: but you could have a biological change.
Speaker 3: But how has this happened though? How have there been three?
Speaker 6: What happens is there's still two main parents, I guess,
Speaker 6: and this is my understanding. There's two main parents, but
Speaker 6: then the third parent that comes in. It's just a
Speaker 6: small amount of the mitochondria that they're using. Now that
Speaker 6: could be completely incorrect. So to clarify that, I have
Speaker 6: doctor Peter Illingworth on the phone from He's a medical
Speaker 6: director at IV of Australia, so I feel like he's.
Speaker 2: Going to know a little bit more about it than
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: Hi, doctor Peter, welcome, Hi, Hi Hill.
Speaker 6: Now doctor Peter, did I just butcher that explanation?
Speaker 5: Not quite? So? That every cell in all of our
Speaker 5: bodies has a nucleus with our DNA in it, which
Speaker 5: determines the way we are, how we function, we look
Speaker 5: everything else about us. Also, there are little batteries called
Speaker 5: mitochondria that keep the cells alive and keep us healthy. Now,
Speaker 5: the problem is that there are some people who are
Speaker 5: born with diseases in the mitochondria, and this means that
Speaker 5: little children are bob with very serious illnesses indeed and
Speaker 5: quite commonly wise in an early death for those children.
Speaker 5: So disease of the mitochondria is a very very serious problem.
Speaker 4: So this is a way of overcoming genetic disease. Is
Speaker 4: that why they would be doing this. It's not to
Speaker 4: kind of have a little lucky deep of who's.
Speaker 5: The parent correct exactly. It's only done in these very
Speaker 5: rare but very very serious genetic conditions which have huge
Speaker 5: effects on the families that are affected by that. And
Speaker 5: so people have thought, how can we fix this? Well,
Speaker 5: the way you fix it is to replace mitochondria. So
Speaker 5: the mum and the dad will get together and they'll
Speaker 5: get an egg donor who will give her eggs for
Speaker 5: the mitochondria, but they'll take the nucleus the DNA from
Speaker 5: the mumm and inject that into the donor eggs and
Speaker 5: the dad's sperm to make an embryo that although it
Speaker 5: has originally come from three people, really most of the
Speaker 5: DNA has come from the mum and the dads. And
Speaker 5: what makes it complicated is that these little batteries, the
Speaker 5: mitochondria and the cells have a tiny amount of DNA
Speaker 5: of their own. And that's why people talk about three
Speaker 5: people reproduction, because there is DNA from three people inside
Speaker 5: each embryo that farms from this is there.
Speaker 4: Like a moral obligation here If you're a child who
Speaker 4: was born and you know that you had someone else's
Speaker 4: DNA floating around in your body. Would there then be
Speaker 4: some sort of moral implication or thought that maybe that
Speaker 4: child might want to know whose DNA that is when
Speaker 4: they grow up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's a very important consideration. And
Speaker 5: the idea would be that the child would know who
Speaker 5: the egg provider was that helped them come into existence.
Speaker 5: Every time people do donated eggs or donated spam to
Speaker 5: have their families that the child has to know where
Speaker 5: they've come from. And all of this has to be
Speaker 5: revealed to the child as the child gets older.
Speaker 6: And doctor Peter, why hasn't this happened in Australia yet?
Speaker 6: Are we not doing have the advanced equipment here or
Speaker 6: what is it that has stopped us from doing it?
Speaker 5: Well, firstly, it's a very serious ethical challenge to do this,
Speaker 5: To take a nucleus from somebody's cell and insert it
Speaker 5: into somebody else's cell. It's not something that anyone has
Speaker 5: ever done before on a large scale basis. So because
Speaker 5: of the ethical challenges on the one hand and on
Speaker 5: the other hand, the fate of these poor children, there
Speaker 5: was a major debate in the Australian Parliament about eighteen
Speaker 5: months ago to discuss all of this and decide whether
Speaker 5: this is something that we should be doing in Australia
Speaker 5: or not. Unfortunately, the Parliament examined all of this and
Speaker 5: gave all of it they go ahead. It does give
Speaker 5: hope to these families who are watching their children struggle
Speaker 5: with mitochondrial disease that there will be hope for them
Speaker 5: to have healthy children in the future. But it's not
Speaker 5: going to be an easy road between here and there. No.
Speaker 6: Look, I'm I mean, yeah, I am freezing my eggs
Speaker 6: at the moment, like I said, but I have opted
Speaker 6: this time to to do the genetic testing which I
Speaker 6: didn't do last time, which you know, which when the
Speaker 6: time comes, my partner will also do that, which to
Speaker 6: me is fascinating and I think it's absolutely brilliant technology
Speaker 6: that we're in a place that we can do that
Speaker 6: and I guess stop things like death and these diseases
Speaker 6: that are preventable. It's absolutely incredible. But thank you so
Speaker 6: much doctor Peter for coming on today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my pleasure.
Speaker 3: All right, thanks doctor Peter.
Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of kids, Laura, you your little daughter has
Speaker 1: seen something that no one ever on earth would ever
Speaker 1: need or want to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'm gonna be paying for therapy for my
Speaker 4: children for a very long time.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you all about that next.
Speaker 3: All right, it's the pickup. It is the pick up.
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Speaker 4: Something happened to me recently and I'm still recovering from it.
Speaker 4: I think also my darling, little Mully May, who's four
Speaker 4: years old, is also recovering from the same experience.
Speaker 2: Oh that's not a good opener to a story, is no.
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: And look, Matt, nah, I'm not really sure what the
Speaker 4: best way to approach this is, but look, I might
Speaker 4: get your opinions on it. So the other night, Matt
Speaker 4: and I were doing the Horizontal Dance of Love. It
Speaker 4: was very late at night. It was like eleven thirty, Yeah,
Speaker 4: eleven thirty pm. You know, the guy got lucky. Not
Speaker 4: to give you guys too many details, but anyway, we're
Speaker 4: in the middle of it, and how do I describe
Speaker 4: this at a very appropriate time?
Speaker 2: You were two minutes deep. You're in the middle.
Speaker 4: We got there, yeah, yeah, we were halfway through, two
Speaker 4: minutes gone.
Speaker 2: And I hear this.
Speaker 4: Pit a pat and then literally instantly, I looked to
Speaker 4: my left and there's Mary standing about twenty centimeters from
Speaker 4: my face, like face to face. I rolled over to
Speaker 4: make face to face eye contact with my daughter. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: Marley gets into bed with us every night, but usually
Speaker 4: she gets in bed with us around two o'clock in
Speaker 4: the morning, so we kind of had a bit of
Speaker 4: time to spare.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I roll over and I look at it, and
Speaker 2: I go, oh, my god, Hi. Actually no, I swore.
Speaker 2: It was my first reaction because I was absolutely startled.
Speaker 2: I swore at her by accident, and then.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, my little darling, Ah,
Speaker 4: I think you should go back to your own bed tonight.
Speaker 4: And she just looked at us, looked us up and down,
Speaker 4: and went, okay, mummy, Oh, I'll go back to my bed.
Speaker 6: He knew something was up, and it wasn't just you
Speaker 6: know what, It's.
Speaker 4: The first time in her entire four years of life
Speaker 4: that halfway like that she's ever come into bed and
Speaker 4: then voluntarily left and gone back to her own bed.
Speaker 3: Didn't Matt know what was going on because you just
Speaker 3: made contact.
Speaker 2: Yes, he stopped as well.
Speaker 3: Figured I just.
Speaker 1: Wanted to know if maybe he didn't know because you
Speaker 1: saw it, then you know if you said, my little darling,
Speaker 1: it was a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we stopped like it was like it was
Speaker 2: a real freeze moment.
Speaker 6: You mean, was Matt confused if in the heat of
Speaker 6: the moment Laura called him.
Speaker 3: That's what I was worried about.
Speaker 2: Some questions there.
Speaker 4: I'm just worried about all the therapy I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to pay for for my chilt. Like four, she might remember.
Speaker 4: Four is old enough to almost remember. I mean she's
Speaker 4: all was for four and two weeks.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, that's the best
Speaker 6: position to be caught in by your child because it
Speaker 6: could just be a cuddle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a cuddle. We told her we were wrestling.
Speaker 2: He was giving me, say, we'll cuddling. You don't have
Speaker 2: to go w w S. No, daddy's just giving mommy
Speaker 2: a tickle.
Speaker 6: WWE what's w w WW is the Wildlife Foundation?
Speaker 3: It could also be.
Speaker 2: The Wildlife very easily? Did you look a little bit
Speaker 2: like a Dave Attenboro documentary.
Speaker 1: She's going to go to school, the man mounts, the
Speaker 1: woman's in the best anyway.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't I got no advice from you. Thanks
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 3: You're on the wrong show. You think we're going to
Speaker 3: give you advice.
Speaker 5: That note.
Speaker 2: It's been a great show, guys.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 1: If you missed any of it, you can I podcast
Speaker 1: it on the iHeartRadio app. So it's to pick up. Well,
Speaker 1: and what are your up next? We'll see you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 3: See you guys,