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Speaker 1: Heyng after neveryone and his will and wood. We were

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Amart Furniture if you're just joining us.

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Speaker 1: Chris Dawson found guilty about an hour ago, just under

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Speaker 1: an hour ago now of murdering his wife, Lynette, who

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Speaker 1: was last seen nineteen eighty two. She was seen. That

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Speaker 1: was obviously the subject of the twenty eighteen podcast That

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Speaker 1: Teacher's Pet, where Headley Thomas uncovered evidence today. He was

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Speaker 1: present in court today with Thomas when the verdict was

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Speaker 1: handed down, as was Lauren TOMASI she's at the front

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Speaker 1: of the courthouse right now. She joins us now from

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Speaker 1: Channel nine. Welcome to the show, Lauren. Big day, guys,

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Speaker 1: Gee whiz Lauren. My first question was there a critical

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Speaker 1: piece of evidence or witness which was instrumental in leading

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Speaker 1: to the guilty verdict?

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Speaker 2: Look, it really all added up to all of Chris

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Speaker 2: Dawson's lives. The justice Ian Harrison, he won by one.

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Speaker 2: He was so meticulous in unpicking this case. I mean

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Speaker 2: the judgment took more than four hours to hand down,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it was a really long judgment. Here he

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Speaker 2: it was extending that that long, But it really all

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Speaker 2: came down to the lies that Chris Dawson told, and

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Speaker 2: the Justice split those up into categories one by one

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Speaker 2: describing all of these lives. But I mean, the case,

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Speaker 2: it really was central to the fact that as as

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Speaker 2: the prosecutors alleged that Chris Dawson killed his wife, Lynette

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Speaker 2: because he wanted a relationship with his teenage babysitter. Right, why.

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Speaker 1: So sorry from what you're saying, so no real hard

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Speaker 1: evidence that Will was sort of asking him. It's more

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Speaker 1: just unpicked that like Chris must have been was lying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Right from the get go, the Justice said,

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Speaker 2: you know, is a circumstantial case. There was no one

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Speaker 2: single piece of hard evidence. And that's the tough part

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Speaker 2: for Lynette Dawson's family, right, yeah, you know, they just

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Speaker 2: don't have so many answers. Today is a step forward

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Speaker 2: for them, but they still don't know what happened to Lynnette,

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Speaker 2: and for forty years they've had suspicions it was Chris Dawson.

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Speaker 2: Today those suspicions have been founded in that guilty verdict,

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Speaker 2: but for them still so many unanswered questions. They want

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Speaker 2: remains and the afternoon, despite being taken into custy, Chris

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Speaker 1: Wow is that right? So have Christian family made any

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Speaker 2: No. We have heard from Greg Roll while she was

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Speaker 2: the lawyer for Chris Dawson. He said that Chris Dawson

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Speaker 2: is now suffering some parts of dementia due to head

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Speaker 2: he's cited in saying that the Lindy Chamberlain case. He

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Speaker 2: said justice is not always served and Chris Dawson does

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Speaker 2: maintain his innocence. Well, today, Justice Dan Harrison, he certainly

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Speaker 2: just actually got Chris Dawson's brother stepping out of what now, guys,

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Speaker 2: I't mind just as we go, Yeah, Queen, brother Paul

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Speaker 2: and I've got Peter Peter Dawson were just trying to

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Speaker 2: fix them now that Oh God, did you play any party?

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Speaker 2: How do you think you? Brother? Did you play any

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Speaker 2: know about what Chris? Did you Peter do you still support.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to say from the brothers there. There's a bit

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Speaker 2: of argie bargie happening, guys with you want a bit

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Speaker 2: of a journey there. I apologize, guys, but I don't apologize.

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Speaker 1: That was the most riven thing that's happened to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get someone else they that was buddy awesome

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Speaker 2: taking a lot with the accident. What the media pack

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Speaker 2: But you know, they had nothing to say that.

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Speaker 1: They just got out of the way.

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Speaker 2: They just exactly right. Chris Dawson's older brother, Peter, he's

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Speaker 1: Hey, Headley Thomas was present there as well. Today, Lauren

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't that such a huge podcast? You know,

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Speaker 2: I might be asking too much, you, Lauren, but I

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Speaker 2: was so excited by what happened before. Can you go

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Speaker 2: and get his heady? You know what, I reckon, I can.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to chase him down right now. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: give it a crack. I'm so sorry. I'm like on

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Speaker 2: Will and Woodie at the moment, I just wanted to say,

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you? How are you feeling?

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Speaker 3: Drained, exhausted, but incredibly elated. And I think that we

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Speaker 3: we just all need to start moving forward and ensuring

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Speaker 3: that cases like this are never again consigned to the

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Speaker 3: every case is different, but women and such devoted mothers

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Speaker 2: Thank Heedley. I broke out that. There you go, guys.

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Speaker 2: Heeddley Thomas, the creator of the Teachers podcast, and boy

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Speaker 2: didn't he play a big roller.

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Speaker 1: Lauren, if you could do us a favor and just

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Speaker 1: get the justice that handed down the verdict as well.

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Speaker 2: Run me off. Wow that was not there is you?

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Speaker 2: Can you get a sound summary?

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Speaker 1: That was riveting?

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Speaker 3: Lauren.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Congratulations on all your reporting. I've seen

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Speaker 1: was obviously a huge job for everybody that's involved in

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Speaker 1: covering a case such as this, but ultimately, at the

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Speaker 1: Lynette and her family, and I hope they can find

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Speaker 1: some peace in it. Thank you so much for your reporting, legend,

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Speaker 1: Lauren TOMARSI there ge whiz. That was amazing.

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Speaker 2: She's good, she's the best in the businesses.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't do it, and we didn't bloody do it,

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Speaker 2: and we didn't good about someone else asking the questions.

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Speaker 2: There's something in that