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Speaker 1: Today we're talking to Connie Tawney, who is a singing

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Speaker 1: telegram Ever wondered what it's like to do someone else's geek,

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Speaker 1: It's time to find out.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy and Leas's inside job.

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Speaker 1: Hello Connie, Connie, how did you get into delivering telegrams?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, years and years and years ago, that's been done

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Speaker 3: them a long time. I took a friend to you.

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Speaker 3: We got back low days. If you wanted to get

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Speaker 3: a job, there s board and you know the people

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Speaker 3: to go listen to jobs. And I took a friend

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Speaker 3: in there jobs and there was an ad from flim

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Speaker 3: Flams on there, but I wasn't allowed. It was five

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Speaker 3: because I wasn't unemployed. I just wrote the details down

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Speaker 3: and followed it up and got the job with them.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, right, So was it a flim flam? Was

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Speaker 2: it a full on audition process? So you had to

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Speaker 2: prove your talent?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You're doing you do an audition? Right?

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Speaker 2: You do?

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Speaker 3: You have to read?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so you do have to be able to sing?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Fallacy is my dog's backing, right, Never

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Speaker 2: say sorry for your dog bagging sence?

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Speaker 1: For what occasions do people tend to organize a singing telegram.

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Speaker 3: Mainly birthdays, but you can have their wells. And I

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Speaker 3: think there's the two main ones. There were birthdays or retirements,

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Speaker 3: that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Retirement, Yeah, yeah, Have you ever had one, maybe say

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Speaker 1: on the occasion of someone's divorce or something like that,

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Speaker 1: for celebration.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to get even one. We won't go

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Speaker 3: there with trouble, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever taken your dog to go?

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Speaker 3: And one?

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Speaker 1: Not my dog?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, man, they're not so what we hate them?

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Speaker 2: No, quite quite likely, but can sing? I can hear it?

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Speaker 1: So has it ever gone wrong?

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of story done that you get

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Speaker 3: a Spring Road and a Spring Street or something the

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Speaker 3: wrong one, right, Yeah, And there's happens to be two

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Speaker 3: weddings at two different churches, same sabbath, same bride's name,

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Speaker 3: same broom's name. I've gone downe the show at the

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Speaker 3: wrong people how until after this show, So now I'm late,

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Speaker 3: but it all bits back, you know, and then I've

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Speaker 3: got to run off to the right stays now mad

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Speaker 3: at me. I'm obviously late.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What is the probability that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not the odds aren't high.

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Speaker 3: They're not. And I do remember that was quite funny.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, two telegrams for the price of one. What

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Speaker 2: a shame biness.

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Speaker 1: They probably still take about it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the fact that you're the wrong venue.

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Speaker 3: Would no one realized? Yeah, because everyone thinks somebody.

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Speaker 2: Else just put Yeah you know exactly, Ana, did you

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Speaker 2: order this somebody to do the same?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's the probability? Yeah, same name. Just I've

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Speaker 3: got the wrong ship, you know what the.

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Speaker 2: Wrong Yeah, that night you had a warm up, So

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Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: What's the weirdest outfit you've ever worn doing one of these?

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Speaker 3: They're all costumes? Yeah, yeah, right, your friends made you know,

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Speaker 3: all those vilicitings, all right, so you kind of your

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Speaker 3: main characters and I've got a whole shed for I

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Speaker 3: think it's don't think it really makes me different costumes

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Speaker 3: the costume. Yeah, nuns, nuns nouns are very popular.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey, Cottie, is it true that the singing telegrams

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Speaker 2: are on the decline? And if so, why do you

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Speaker 2: think so?

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Speaker 3: I think the whole entertainment industry is on the decline,

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Speaker 3: but the private party, because I did clowning as well,

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Speaker 3: and the whole industry, not just the clowns, not just

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Speaker 3: the telegram. Not if you go back a couple of decades,

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Speaker 3: you know, you had the you had everything. You had

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Speaker 3: fire engines, bounce to capitals, animal farms, there's bubble mania,

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Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff like that, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: that is not around anymore because the market is just

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Speaker 3: not like back in the peak days there's probably ten

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Speaker 3: main funds and I have ten pounds go out on

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Speaker 3: weekends for me and stuff, and it's nothing like that now.

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Speaker 3: It's nothing the whole the whole industries. But a lot

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Speaker 3: of that marketing is different now too. Lost year our

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Speaker 3: pages each running it and it was easy and their

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Speaker 3: direct marketing, but that's still time consuming. We now it's

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Speaker 3: all you're not number one on the search engine, which

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Speaker 3: is a completely different skill set. It's like you're not

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Speaker 3: going to be found and it's very hard and even

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Speaker 3: when you pay people to do it, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, so that's that's wanting to do. But maybe

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Speaker 3: we're distant generation that doesn't get as much entertainment. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. There's a lot of like you know, shires

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Speaker 3: and things that putting on as many shows as they

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Speaker 3: used to do, and then they still do, but not

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Speaker 3: just some good ones, but not to the extent that

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Speaker 3: they used to do, so that every school holiday would

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Speaker 3: put on the beds and things for the kids. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure I'm going anywhere near that level anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, then everyone's too afraid that they might

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Speaker 1: offend someone for something, you know, and you know we have.

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Speaker 3: And then we had the scary ground phase. I kind

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Speaker 3: of put the fe businesses together so.

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Speaker 2: They didn't COVID.

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Speaker 3: Well, COVID stilled anything with a sugar and refast.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Connie, what's the one question that people always ask

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Speaker 1: about your job?

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Speaker 3: Is something I don't know?

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Speaker 2: Can?

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Speaker 3: I mean people that know me know what I do. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that's not really a question that's going to come up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, all right, Well that answers that.

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Speaker 2: And what about you know to tell us how much

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Speaker 2: you're winn for hour? But is it? Do you consider

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Speaker 2: it a well paid gig for what you're doing in

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Speaker 2: your preparation.

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Speaker 3: It's a fairly paid job, right, Okay, consider it well paid?

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Speaker 2: Nothing of it? Okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 3: You're not trying to rip people off, You're not trying

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Speaker 3: to get into cnators brand, but you're not trying to

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Speaker 3: rip people. You know, there's work behind that and you've

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Speaker 3: got to get there and you've got to write the

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Speaker 3: shows and things you write need shu differently. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: there's you know, there's about four or five hours work

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Speaker 3: in each job you do, so you know it's not

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Speaker 3: about you know, yeah, man, like you've got to be

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Speaker 3: paid otherwise you must have gone to do something else

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Speaker 3: and you're going to have your class.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's fascinating and I was sorry to hear

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Speaker 1: there's a decline. People just stay the same sort of

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Speaker 1: fund that they used to any more. Connie, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to do about.

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Speaker 3: It, but I think it's I think and this is

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Speaker 3: not just my industry. This is probably a lot of

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Speaker 3: industry because Google controls the Internet, and if you're not

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Speaker 3: a lot of small businesses really haven't managed the changes

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Speaker 3: with internet marketing because unless you're at a cost so

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Speaker 3: much to get jobs now, you know, because you're running

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Speaker 3: them through programs like barking things and you've got a

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Speaker 3: paper leads that you talk to the person, so people

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Speaker 3: put things on these give people a lot of information

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Speaker 3: because you've got to choose which jobs.

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Speaker 2: You follow up on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, completely different marketing strategies now the usual. So it's

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Speaker 3: the customer, doesn't they how to find acs and it's

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Speaker 3: true time consuming to find them. That the marketing is

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Speaker 3: to choose the issue of it. Things that used to

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Speaker 3: work don't work anymore. We're in a different time zone,

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Speaker 3: we all different times.

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Speaker 2: A pretty handy way to do the marketing is to

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Speaker 2: get on the Inside Job podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yes they're still out there, so you can get hold

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Speaker 1: of Contie Cottie, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Conty Connie. All about a little bit occupy