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Speaker 2: listening to the Jonesy and Demander podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is very exciting. Counting Crows are back on Australian

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Speaker 1: soil with their.

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Speaker 3: Complete Sweets tour.

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Speaker 1: The last time front man Adam Duritz popped into our studio,

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Speaker 1: what did.

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Speaker 4: I say say to Alum?

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Speaker 3: Alm? Did I say Alam?

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Speaker 5: I've been thinking of my changing my name to Alam

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Speaker 5: at some point. Anyways, i'd like it ahead of the time.

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Speaker 3: So I don't look foolish. Can you change it to Alam?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I could do this afternoon, Adam dura So, last time

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Speaker 1: Adam was in our studio, you weren't very impressed with

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Speaker 1: the state of our microphones or our studio.

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Speaker 3: But hey, new studio. Who this? Look at this? Look

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Speaker 3: Look where we are. It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Now this is the view of the center. I can

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Speaker 5: see our hotel. What was my problem with the studio?

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Speaker 2: You didn't like the microphone, and I appreciate that because

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Speaker 2: we're using these terrible, cheap microphones. But now we have

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Speaker 2: the Re twenty, the greatest microphone in the world.

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Speaker 6: Oh you were there twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say microphone perf's me now.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, of course I know the are twenty.

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Speaker 6: Should we be sorry? Sixteen was nowhere near as good.

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Speaker 2: No, the Ari twenty. You're a technical guy, surely, sure,

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Speaker 2: surely you're a technically with the show is phone, I

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Speaker 2: can work it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's more than most of us.

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Speaker 1: The Complete Sweets tour sweets are lollies in Australia?

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Speaker 3: Are sweets? Are you're doing about candy? The Complete Sweets?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of a play on the fact that

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Speaker 5: the first side of the record that we recorded was

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Speaker 5: a sweet.

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Speaker 3: So oh nice, I get it.

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Speaker 6: It was called Sweet one, and so I called the

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Speaker 6: Sweet two t o.

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Speaker 3: And now the Complete Sweets. It's nice.

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Speaker 2: You know, look at how long like when mister Jones

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Speaker 2: came out all those years ago, I was in this

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Speaker 2: business and I heard it and I just knew it

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Speaker 2: was going to be a great song.

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Speaker 3: Because your surname is Joanes.

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Speaker 2: Well there is that, but no, I just thought and

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Speaker 2: I just listened to it over and over again. And

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Speaker 2: there's other songs in life when you hear them for

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Speaker 2: the first time and you say that thing's going to

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Speaker 2: be around forever. It never dates. Do you do you

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Speaker 2: appreciate that more and more as time goes on? Do

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Speaker 2: you go, wow, that was a well yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: but at the time, did you were your youngest sort

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Speaker 4: Did you think, oh, this is just one of many.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean we've had a lot of songs. I

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Speaker 5: like that it has been one of many. Yes, but

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, you nail it sometimes.

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Speaker 6: That song was real. I thought that song was great.

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Speaker 5: I thought round Here was going to be a really

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Speaker 5: big deal because I thought it was unlike anything else.

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Speaker 5: I still think A Long December is probably the most

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Speaker 5: perfect thing I've ever written, right right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do the songs feel different to you now when you

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean I think they feel different to me every

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Speaker 5: time because I think I'm not trying to sing it

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Speaker 6: I'm just trying to see how it feels right now.

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Speaker 6: She keeps them all fresh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you mentioned round Here, I always find

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Speaker 4: She only lasts when she's nervous. You know, it's just

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Speaker 4: it's just such a nice song.

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Speaker 6: I'm a first class moper.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm a top of the line mober when it

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Speaker 6: I can mope with the best one.

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Speaker 3: Does that make you fun at home?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I'm a joy to be around, you know. It's actually

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Speaker 5: now more of whatever the word for, I don't know what,

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Speaker 5: mope if anything, right, a pretty good state.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When you travel, now, do you bring things from home?

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Speaker 1: Like is there a staple that you think, Well, I'm

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Speaker 3: Are you that kind of a person.

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Speaker 5: If I had to give one piece of advice to

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Speaker 6: Wipes, Yeah, wipes. You don't ever know what the toilet

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but a good pair of wipes, you know, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. Yeah, I bring things. I bring my kindle

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Speaker 5: with me wherever I go. What else when we're on

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Speaker 5: tour in America, like I bring I have a bad back,

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Speaker 5: So there's certain pillows that.

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Speaker 6: Are good, so I bring them on the bus.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be seen walking through an airport

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Speaker 6: No, no, I don't think you ever want to be

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Speaker 5: Like if you're just leaving your house for any reason

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Speaker 5: No one needs to know, only.

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Speaker 2: Us, ye, Stevie Nicks, she used to take a mattress

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Speaker 3: Was that as to the well loading the guys.

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Speaker 2: At the height of this six says to Fleetwood Mac

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Speaker 4: No one ate it, you ask.

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Speaker 2: When they came to Australia, our local promoter, Michael Chad

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Speaker 6: Where did the mattress go on the bus?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the question I would have asked Stevee.

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Speaker 2: You know, I would love to ask her because mattresses,

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I guess if you just I mean sometimes,

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Speaker 5: I had a problem a few years ago because the

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Speaker 5: and after like two days on it, my back was

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Speaker 5: But I mean I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I imagine maybe she just put it in the back

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you wouldn't take it to the hotel.

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Speaker 3: Is that a power trip?

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Speaker 2: Maybe once again you'll have to ask Stevie.

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Speaker 1: In the back of the tour bus, do you have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I do, because.

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Speaker 5: I need to run a humidifier to take keep my

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Speaker 5: I had to sleep on one of those circular couches

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Speaker 5: I realized early on that without the humidifier, my voice

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Speaker 5: feel guilty about the bedroom in the back of the

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Speaker 6: That was not comfortable at all.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, now we have two buses, the band is

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Speaker 5: back of our bus. Yeah, yeah, which is good because

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Speaker 5: like I need to shower after the Gigly the other

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Speaker 5: guys they don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't even think they sweat on stage there at most.

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Speaker 5: This is not burning too many calories, nor is this

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Speaker 6: The only guys who are doing any effort on that.

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Speaker 2: Now we've seen the just pay your watch in the

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Speaker 6: I did that at a lot of houses. You just

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Speaker 6: I did that a lot of time.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it was such a refreshing feeling when

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Speaker 5: thirty years. It's just so nice, Like it was like

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Speaker 5: I'd be over a friend's house having dinner, and I

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Speaker 5: just like, it's.

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Speaker 1: Almost worth the dread's back, so you can get rid

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Speaker 6: I'm okay, thank you for all.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think they're just I really loved them

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Speaker 5: You know, it's like nice to kind of you got.

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Speaker 2: Food, hay, you got solid hair.

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Speaker 6: So it's doing okay. You know, it could be it

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Speaker 6: could be a lot worse. At my age.

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Speaker 5: You know, I got a fair amount of it left. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and uh, you know I could use some more, but

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Speaker 5: that's not gonna happen. It doesn't go in that direction,

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Speaker 5: that's true.

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Speaker 2: And if wander I'm fifty eight this year and I've

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Speaker 2: wondered about my own hair, and I've got a bit

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Speaker 2: of a Devon patch happening on the back. But you

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Speaker 2: know that what I see young guys in their thirties

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Speaker 2: and they they say to me, I want I just

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Speaker 2: want your hair.

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Speaker 4: So I'm very grateful for what I have.

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Speaker 3: I flex.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not a flex, that's not non flex. That's

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Speaker 2: just I'm just rightful.

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Speaker 6: You guys call them like the it's called the devon patch.

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Speaker 4: The devon patch.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it happens to guys. Like.

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Speaker 5: The nice thing about is you don't think about it

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Speaker 5: much because you don't see it much. Yeah, but I've

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Speaker 2: I love possibly one of the greatest songs, And you've

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Speaker 4: Is just how accidentally.

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Speaker 2: Love came about. Your approached to write a song for

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Speaker 2: And I would love to. I think we should just

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Speaker 2: and maybe you could do a little DJI interest. Do

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Speaker 2: I guess I could.

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Speaker 2: So we've got accidentally in love. You're on gold, and

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Speaker 6: Hey, this is Adam from Counting Crows. You're on gold

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Speaker 6: and you've got accidentally in love coming up right now.

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Speaker 6: Oh so smooth.

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Speaker 2: No, not smooth, I'm not smooth, just cold excellent Adam,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: You're wonderful.

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Speaker 6: Thanks you guys,