Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast. Baby Girls Through Me is
Speaker 1: still in New York.
Speaker 2: She has abandoned me, but she's also kind of here spiritually, conceptually, aggressively, esoterically, omnipotently. No,
Speaker 2: she's not here, but we have recorded this a week
Speaker 2: or so ago, so you don't miss us too much.
Speaker 1: Because we are thoughtful beings. Mostly Mickey.
Speaker 2: Yana is just really good at her job and she
Speaker 2: plans in advance. So here's some of our best bits.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Kita.
Speaker 3: I was hanging out with my cousin David a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago. Turns out that we are both hubanan pilled.
Speaker 3: Andrew Hugman is a neuroscientist who has a podcast called
Speaker 3: Human Lab where he talks about hormones, lifestyle, moods, all
Speaker 3: of these amazing things, how to optimize yourself. Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: learned a lot from it. Chin wagging my cousin. He
Speaker 3: said that he watched a little YouTube short, which i'd
Speaker 3: be questionable, but he loves YouTube shorts.
Speaker 4: He's thirty six. I'll give him a whole pass. Yeah,
Speaker 4: get on top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, shorts is rogue, though it's super rogue.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's not judge him too harshly.
Speaker 4: I think he has an android though, so yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Off that twenty twenty three inns. I'm not judging android users.
Speaker 3: I have the tape from the Human Lab. Yes, this
Speaker 3: is a YouTube or tape.
Speaker 4: I have the tape. Please make you play the tape.
Speaker 5: The pattern of breathing is really simple. I do it
Speaker 5: anytime I'm starting to feel a little worn out or
Speaker 5: like i might be catching something, or if I was
Speaker 5: on a plane and someone around me seemed like they
Speaker 5: weren't doing so well. Involves twenty five deep breaths in
Speaker 5: through the nose in this case, out through the mouth,
Speaker 5: and at the end of that exhaling all your air,
Speaker 5: holding your breath for fifteen to sixty seconds. Don't fight
Speaker 5: the impulse to breathe. When you feel the impulse to breathing,
Speaker 5: breathe in, and then hold your breath or as long
Speaker 5: as you can until you feel the impulse to breathe.
Speaker 5: But it basically I want you all twenty five.
Speaker 4: It goes something like this.
Speaker 5: So big that right, and I can already feel I'm
Speaker 5: kind of heating up. Yeah, that's the real adrenaline is
Speaker 5: the signals the immune system to deploy these killer cells
Speaker 5: and these cells that go in combat infection.
Speaker 2: We tried that as that was playing. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I like the feeling of adrenaline with no context.
Speaker 2: That feels anxiety. And there's something about breathing in the
Speaker 2: sneezy air after speculation of infection that doesn't sit right
Speaker 2: with me. If you want it to work, if it didn't,
Speaker 2: you'd be like if it didn't work, you'd be mad.
Speaker 4: And if you think I wouldn't get a hold anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all in the head. Thanks you man. Then
Speaker 3: thank you to my cousin bringing that to my attention.
Speaker 3: I might try it, I'll likely forget. And as I said,
Speaker 3: I'm usually the perpartarty of sickness. So just keep an
Speaker 3: eye out everyone if you're close.
Speaker 1: All right, astrology is over.
Speaker 2: There's a new kid in town and it's called birth orders.
Speaker 2: If you always felt as though astrologier didn't hit the mark,
Speaker 2: but you wanted a personality assessment that you could loosely
Speaker 2: judge everybody by, this is one for you. I think
Speaker 2: you're gonna this And after hearing this, you might wish
Speaker 2: you were born at a different time or in a
Speaker 2: different order. So I made a little tweet the other
Speaker 2: day on a thread.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I apologized, I made a thread. They need to
Speaker 1: figure out what are you doing freaking out? We made a.
Speaker 2: Thread and the thread said am I self interested? Or
Speaker 2: am I just the youngest sibling? Naturally went gangbusters. It
Speaker 2: encouraged me to do a bit of research about birth
Speaker 2: orders because we know a bit of the light generalizations,
Speaker 2: but I thought there might be more to it.
Speaker 1: So this guy called Adler.
Speaker 2: He had theories about how your birth order impacts the
Speaker 2: kind of person you become, and he says that it
Speaker 2: has a lot to do with whether your life is
Speaker 2: destined for greatness or sadness.
Speaker 1: It is that deep.
Speaker 2: Bear in mind though this whole theory has developed over
Speaker 2: one hundred years ago. It's a different time, a different place.
Speaker 2: A lot of it can be heaps valid, but a
Speaker 2: lot of it's like really contradictory as well. It says
Speaker 2: that the basic firstborn child personality is having higher levels
Speaker 2: of intellect than other children and other birth orders.
Speaker 1: As a standard, they're more like to be leaders.
Speaker 2: Given that they are the leader of the children and
Speaker 2: have personality traits such as persistence and emotional stability. They
Speaker 2: tend to feel either authoritarian or entitled to some kind
Speaker 2: of power or status because they've had it growing up.
Speaker 2: Other traits include the controlling, conscientious, cautious, reliable achievers, neurotic construction.
Speaker 2: A lot of the firstborn child friends that I have
Speaker 2: are the mum friends. I don't think they want to be,
Speaker 2: but they are. The hard road, isn't it's yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not great, brother, and we do sympathize per a dynamic.
Speaker 1: For us literally too toddling and the mum.
Speaker 4: I'm a younger sibling too. Wait are you sorry?
Speaker 1: I thought you were the oldest. No, I'm younger.
Speaker 4: Damn, she's just wait, you're a middle lower or your
Speaker 4: youngest youngest.
Speaker 1: Wore one of us? Are sorry?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 1: I have put you through the age gap?
Speaker 4: Oh what's the age gap?
Speaker 1: Eight years and sixteen?
Speaker 3: Your older sister's sixteen years older than you. Yeah, damn,
Speaker 3: so you really got taken care.
Speaker 1: Of or neglected.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's then we've got the middle child. We all know
Speaker 1: about a middle child, and if you don't, you are yeah.
Speaker 2: Literally, the middle child syndrome cliche came from Adlerian theory,
Speaker 2: so shout out to Adler for that one. They often
Speaker 2: feel squeezed between their oldest and younger sibling. They feel
Speaker 2: like they've been robbed of any significance in the family
Speaker 2: because they weren't the first and they weren't the last,
Speaker 2: and so what are you then? Silver They can become
Speaker 2: either competitive or really rebellious. They can be even tempered,
Speaker 2: being able to compromise, but that it can lead to
Speaker 2: like people pleas ery.
Speaker 3: I don't know any of them middle children like even tempered.
Speaker 3: That's a middle child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, youngest child personality.
Speaker 2: Were in the room the baby of the family, and
Speaker 2: they never grow out of it. They will always be
Speaker 2: perceived as the baby king. That title cannot be taken away,
Speaker 2: often spoiled, if not with material things, spoiled without like
Speaker 2: the overbearing nature of being the first one to pop
Speaker 2: through even the second one.
Speaker 1: But then are we neglected by the proxy? They say.
Speaker 2: It can often lead to the younger sibling wanting to
Speaker 2: become like bigger, wanting to be misperceived as mature. They
Speaker 2: want to grow up really quickly. People to take them
Speaker 2: seriously and like have their backup about that. They have
Speaker 2: the lowest rate of mental health challenges.
Speaker 1: Though, so I said, blink, blink, we havenies. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know that's what. That's why I'm in the same way constantly.
Speaker 1: There's something about the connection. I'm mockey. It's just fruit
Speaker 1: three work because it left out, I left out.
Speaker 2: It's like that I'm observing like a couple that's like
Speaker 2: so happy and that I would have.
Speaker 1: Loved to be laughing about. It's cute that I really
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: The traits of a younger sibling, they're often seen, is
Speaker 2: fun loving and sociable and self centered and self interested
Speaker 2: in all of these things, which I can see and
Speaker 2: I do see that in a lot of younger siblings.
Speaker 2: But I was thinking before about in a lot of ways,
Speaker 2: my self interestedness was a defense mechanism or directly in
Speaker 2: response to being left alone a lot or left out.
Speaker 2: So like, imagine you have these two older brothers. They're
Speaker 2: really close, they hang out, they have their shared interest
Speaker 2: and even if they're not exactly the same, they've got
Speaker 2: like a knowing right, like we're both boys, we like
Speaker 2: boy things. Then you have me, born five years later,
Speaker 2: and like I can't watch the shows I want to
Speaker 2: watch on TV, and I don't want to watch wrestling,
Speaker 2: Like I don't when people ask me, like, why didn't
Speaker 2: you watch the Simpsons? I didn't want to hang out
Speaker 2: when my brothers watching TV. Did they watch Simpsons? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like right up that they'd be watching wrestling and
Speaker 2: then soccer, and then that's not very fun.
Speaker 1: And so I had to learn very quickly what my.
Speaker 2: Own interests were, and I didn't want to share them
Speaker 2: for risk of it being another thing that was taken.
Speaker 2: So it's like an overcorrection of feeling left out ignored
Speaker 2: and then being like, but I like being left out
Speaker 2: any norse. I've got all these interests and all these hobbies,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna, you know, entertain myself. And then you
Speaker 2: kind of grow up and then you realize, oh, you
Speaker 2: can actually get attention, Like you don't have to just
Speaker 2: exist in a bubble. You can do things that will
Speaker 2: make people notice you. And then I think it's another overcorrection.
Speaker 2: We're like wait. One of my fondest memories of being
Speaker 2: young was my sibling saying things like we'll tell you
Speaker 2: when you're seven, we'll tell you when you're eleven, we'll
Speaker 2: tell you when you're twelve, And then suddenly you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness. It's like if I wait on you
Speaker 2: guys to invite me into things, I'm going to miss out.
Speaker 2: So I need to find other ways to like wheezle
Speaker 2: my weight in. And then's like, Okay, the funnier I
Speaker 2: am or the more accommodating I am, the more I
Speaker 2: get to hang out, So like what else.
Speaker 1: Can I do?
Speaker 2: But that's also my family structure. It's not just like
Speaker 2: the younger sibling things.
Speaker 1: What was your experience for me?
Speaker 3: So I have these old home videos that I've found
Speaker 3: a little while ago that would like put onto a CD.
Speaker 3: Then I put on my hard drive and there's one
Speaker 3: of me hanging out with my sister's friends, Like her
Speaker 3: friend will come over and they.
Speaker 1: Would like, how annoying of you?
Speaker 3: Literally, and I'm so annoying the videos like I've dressed
Speaker 3: up as like eminem and I'm like coming, like I
Speaker 3: hear do us a little song and dance something, yo,
Speaker 3: you're you're eminent. And it's like it's not even cute
Speaker 3: because it's so annoying. It's like shut she thought you et,
Speaker 3: but I and the friend was laughing. I'm like, now
Speaker 3: I think she was laughing because I was being annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what else can she do? She can't discipline you? Nah?
Speaker 3: Nah, And my sister would be absolutely upper arms. I
Speaker 3: think I definitely learned to be like I was in
Speaker 3: an attention seeker. I would say often it's worked quite well,
Speaker 3: drama captain. My birth order definitely is appropriate for my
Speaker 3: personality type, which is absolutely to jokes, to clown, you know,
Speaker 3: don't have much responsibility, bit of a mummies girl.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be a baby. What do you think,
Speaker 1: micky babies? You know, I like it. I've enjoyed because
Speaker 1: it was enjoyed my tenure.
Speaker 2: You can watch your older siblings do things and go
Speaker 2: yes no, yes, no, and you're like, Okay, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to be like them, or I am going to
Speaker 2: be like them, And therefore I feel like I'm progressing quicker.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: Perpetual observer forever baby, because everybody is a child to someone,
Speaker 2: right Like my forty year old brother. My mum would
Speaker 2: still perceive him as a child and he has children,
Speaker 2: but being the literal baby of the family, I think
Speaker 2: I will always be perceived as a lot younger to
Speaker 2: my family, like little baby forever. Like this is so crazy,
Speaker 2: like where's Lily. Lilian's gone oversation. She didn't tell anyone.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 2: I'm nearing thirty still baby to them. Yeah, they love
Speaker 2: crisis receipts.
Speaker 4: Are they seeing the invoices?
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to pass through the group chat on enough.
Speaker 1: This is flex and roomster. I have a new crackpot theory.
Speaker 4: It is about the term yeah.
Speaker 3: I have in my research in the field of light
Speaker 3: realized that people who say yeah, hy e h yeah redacted, No,
Speaker 3: they what.
Speaker 2: People who say it's not where I thought this was going.
Speaker 2: I know you, is this what you heard? Mikayla when
Speaker 2: she was pitching this, I felt it.
Speaker 3: I swear people who say y e h are hotter
Speaker 3: than your y.
Speaker 1: Searching my phone, I'm searching.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. It's some sort of
Speaker 3: personality type. If you have this innate confidence and I
Speaker 3: d G a F yeah speaking now speak.
Speaker 1: Now a flex. The results are conclusive.
Speaker 2: The results are conclusive, And I'm so sorry to almost
Speaker 2: shut you down before you could make your point.
Speaker 4: I have some other variations of yeah that I would
Speaker 4: like to.
Speaker 2: So you're saying y e h exclusively? Anything about y
Speaker 2: e ah coming through.
Speaker 3: That will be up next. Okay, So y e H
Speaker 3: is at the top of the pyramid of hot people
Speaker 3: who are confident because you use it. Yeah, I'm late
Speaker 3: to the game. I'll see you've adopted it. Adopted that
Speaker 3: you're doing cosplay, appropriated it?
Speaker 1: What's new?
Speaker 3: Okay? Here there are some other year variations. Yeah, yea
Speaker 3: is nervous and trying to flirt. It's very drake coded.
Speaker 1: That's disrespectaful.
Speaker 3: Yeah ye is like yeah, which is y ea, which
Speaker 3: is like a ten year old slash non middleman.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I was like year, it's like, yeah, come over.
Speaker 1: I think it's not commddle generally. I don't think we
Speaker 1: needs a gender this okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah with the exclamation mark. The typical y e A
Speaker 3: H is a little too keen. And also why you
Speaker 3: saying it correctly? It's like the okay of the okay world?
Speaker 3: Is yeah even a real word?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it an Oxford? Okay? Please pay I'm checking
Speaker 1: if it's in Oxford? Define the yeah? Okay?
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 2: Says informal spelling of yes, representing a pronunciation of the
Speaker 2: word yes.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and finally, yeah ya is girllypop It's my
Speaker 3: personal favorite. When I'm comfortable with someone, if I'm hitting
Speaker 3: you with a yeah, just know him about it in.
Speaker 2: Before someone in the comment says, it's not that deep
Speaker 2: and you've thought about it too much.
Speaker 1: I think you're onto something.
Speaker 3: Finally, yeah, y e R I go your yeah Yo,
Speaker 3: yeah I do y you are Yeah, you're like per parade.
Speaker 3: These are really important, from least hot to hottest. Least
Speaker 3: hot is yeah traditional spelling with the exclamation mark. The
Speaker 3: one above that yeah with no exclamation mark. You're in
Speaker 3: a mood, yah girlipop yeah yeah is a ten year
Speaker 3: old like very yeat coded yeah yeah yea is soft boy,
Speaker 3: not very confident.
Speaker 1: How does y e A rank higher than y e
Speaker 1: A h H.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the ring is it.
Speaker 3: Anyway, if you say yeah, if you want to come
Speaker 3: across as more hot and attractive, y e h added
Speaker 3: to the vocab.
Speaker 2: I hate to be the one to bring tired rhetoric
Speaker 2: to the show, but when I do, it's flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: By the way, on Caita, listen, aesthetics are a trap.
Speaker 1: We know it.
Speaker 2: It all started in the year two thousand when I
Speaker 2: got my first lip BARMB. I want to be a
Speaker 2: big girl. Put something in my bag with the tissues,
Speaker 2: probably lipsmacker, like you stole it. No, put on your
Speaker 2: my handbag. Sorry, Like I wanted to be like my
Speaker 2: mom and she carried a handbag, said, I carry a
Speaker 2: handbag but with nothing in it.
Speaker 1: So I put little tissues.
Speaker 2: In there and then a little lip bom, you know,
Speaker 2: because I wanted to feel like a baddie. And then
Speaker 2: as you know, you might not know that once you
Speaker 2: and I don't know the science behind this, but just
Speaker 2: you know, listen, don't ask him many questions. But this
Speaker 2: idea of putting on lip bumb and giving your lipsy
Speaker 2: illusion of hydration messes with the original or the like
Speaker 2: the default fault oil productions. Your lips always feel dry,
Speaker 2: la la la. So now i'm, you know, two decades
Speaker 2: into this lip balm addiction. Yes, my mum is a
Speaker 2: chronic moisturizer, which is a great habit to have. I
Speaker 2: have fond memories of putting moisturizer on her back literally
Speaker 2: every morning. Come put crean in my back, Come put
Speaker 2: clean on my back. Now I'm a chronic moisturizer. Fine,
Speaker 2: getting my nails done. Those who get your nails done
Speaker 2: with the crylics or jelx. No that you can't have
Speaker 2: them off because your real nails get so brittle that
Speaker 2: you need to keep them on. Now you're trapped into
Speaker 2: the routine bleaching my eyebrows and now gotta go two
Speaker 2: weeks of fresh rebleach. Now I'm feeling funny doing my hair.
Speaker 2: You do a slick back pony. You can't ever have
Speaker 2: it unslick. Precisely, it just doesn't stop. Luckily, these things
Speaker 2: are enjoyable. But I think I'm starting to acknowledge when
Speaker 2: things aren't enjoyable and opting out. For example, makeup. I
Speaker 2: don't actually like applying makeup, and I like the feeling
Speaker 2: of makeup. I don't know why I pretend I have
Speaker 2: to wear it moment. Literally, she tried it with that
Speaker 2: who knows what she meant, but it looked good. Oh
Speaker 2: she has amazing skin. She's stunning, and I'm also stunning.
Speaker 2: You know, I can find wearing makeup enjoyable, but not
Speaker 2: when I'm doing it every day. Is like a blanket
Speaker 2: habit because by the time the time comes to I
Speaker 2: need to be excited about I'm not excited about it.
Speaker 4: You were a makeup blogger for a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, early days only days twenty sixteen, twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen started a lot of things for me.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I'd go back, but you know the curse of taste maker.
Speaker 2: It's hard to double back when you set a trend
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: You did start the liquid colored eyeliner, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: many years before.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, or.
Speaker 2: But I will say one thing that I've been really
Speaker 2: excited about a new little routine of mine. Last year,
Speaker 2: we were talking about the implications wearing crocs every day.
Speaker 2: And if you don't know, and this happens with any
Speaker 2: kind of open toe shoes, your heels are exposed to
Speaker 2: the air. They're drying out, which means you get cracked heels.
Speaker 2: That is not sexy. And to be fair, that's not
Speaker 2: something you just put like a little topical, a little
Speaker 2: topical moisturizer over. You have to exfold it. I like
Speaker 2: getting regular pedicures. You shouldn't get them that often, you know,
Speaker 2: not like I want to get a fortnightly pedicure if
Speaker 2: I could, you don't need to try.
Speaker 4: But I just recently did the foot peel.
Speaker 1: Yeah amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love it. We love a milky for foot pill.
Speaker 2: But one thing that works really well. Want to get
Speaker 2: your pedicure. Get heel bombed. I don't care what brand
Speaker 2: it is. I've used some that are five dollars and
Speaker 2: that are fifty dollars. Heal bomb with Yurea in it,
Speaker 2: you are ea. I think it eats a weight, like
Speaker 2: dead skin or something. I don't know how it works,
Speaker 2: but that keeps my heel soft. I haven't had a
Speaker 2: cracked heel.
Speaker 1: In a long time.
Speaker 4: I'll write that down.
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's an effective esthetic habit.
Speaker 2: Can I get it from this market anywhere anywhere? Get
Speaker 2: a little shoals, get a little dermal. Everybody does it.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I stand by get heel bumb Thanks Grey.
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