1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My herd podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,468 Speaker 1: live on the Free Hard. 3 00:00:18,389 --> 00:00:20,869 Speaker 2: Right now though, Justin Bieber, Yeah, he really has been 4 00:00:20,869 --> 00:00:24,468 Speaker 2: in the headline for all the wrong reasons recently. 5 00:00:24,509 --> 00:00:25,229 Speaker 3: Even I'm across this. 6 00:00:25,349 --> 00:00:27,069 Speaker 2: I'm not across the bee, but he's made it on 7 00:00:27,149 --> 00:00:29,589 Speaker 2: a couple of Reddit threads that I follow recently. 8 00:00:29,669 --> 00:00:30,949 Speaker 4: What's reddit saying about the bar? 9 00:00:31,109 --> 00:00:33,509 Speaker 5: Just some pretty cook stuff of him at Coachella and whatnot. 10 00:00:33,709 --> 00:00:36,189 Speaker 4: He had a big spat with paparazzi's as well. 11 00:00:36,309 --> 00:00:39,668 Speaker 3: Yeah about that, Yeah about that? Yeah, not doing himself 12 00:00:39,709 --> 00:00:40,388 Speaker 3: many favors. 13 00:00:40,789 --> 00:00:44,949 Speaker 2: He has posted here a text message exchange with him 14 00:00:44,989 --> 00:00:45,549 Speaker 2: and a friend. 15 00:00:47,028 --> 00:00:48,829 Speaker 4: Hasn't identified the friend though. 16 00:00:49,108 --> 00:00:53,949 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, So he's written here so the guy. 17 00:00:54,469 --> 00:00:55,909 Speaker 5: I'll try and read. 18 00:00:55,749 --> 00:00:57,549 Speaker 2: Out the bits of the very important because it does 19 00:00:57,589 --> 00:01:01,029 Speaker 2: tend to go on. The guy basically complains that Justin 20 00:01:01,029 --> 00:01:04,389 Speaker 2: Bieber lashed out at him, right yep. Bieber then says 21 00:01:04,509 --> 00:01:07,669 Speaker 2: the friendship's over. I'll never accept a man calling my 22 00:01:07,749 --> 00:01:11,908 Speaker 2: anger lashing out. I enjoyed our short lived friendship, but 23 00:01:11,949 --> 00:01:13,669 Speaker 2: I wasn't kidding when I told you I didn't need 24 00:01:13,709 --> 00:01:16,789 Speaker 2: you as a friend. Yeah, goes on he says, I 25 00:01:16,829 --> 00:01:20,709 Speaker 2: will never suppress my emotions for someone. Conflict is a 26 00:01:20,749 --> 00:01:22,549 Speaker 2: part of a relationship. 27 00:01:22,629 --> 00:01:23,589 Speaker 4: That's a good point. 28 00:01:23,829 --> 00:01:25,629 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, I hate to say it, but 29 00:01:26,149 --> 00:01:26,909 Speaker 3: I do agree with. 30 00:01:26,869 --> 00:01:30,069 Speaker 2: The bear there's some wisdom within all this other I'm 31 00:01:30,109 --> 00:01:32,309 Speaker 2: not sure if you just got chut gpt to blurt 32 00:01:32,309 --> 00:01:34,629 Speaker 2: that out for him, but I think he's right. I actually, 33 00:01:34,829 --> 00:01:37,229 Speaker 2: I actually do think he's right. There he goes under 34 00:01:37,229 --> 00:01:39,309 Speaker 2: call him a pussy and you know, ends up ruining it. 35 00:01:39,269 --> 00:01:40,669 Speaker 5: But I do. 36 00:01:41,349 --> 00:01:44,749 Speaker 2: I do want to talk quickly about SIDEA about suppressing 37 00:01:44,749 --> 00:01:47,309 Speaker 2: your emotions. I will never suppress my emotions for someone. 38 00:01:48,029 --> 00:01:50,829 Speaker 2: And because you know this, Sem and I have done 39 00:01:50,829 --> 00:01:54,349 Speaker 2: some couples counseling recently in a in a very healthy sense. Actually, 40 00:01:54,349 --> 00:01:55,789 Speaker 2: and if you don't you haven't seen a couple's counsel 41 00:01:55,829 --> 00:01:59,389 Speaker 2: in relationship. I would highly recommend it. But I feel 42 00:01:59,429 --> 00:02:04,429 Speaker 2: like our couple's counseling prolonged recently because I suck at this. 43 00:02:04,949 --> 00:02:09,788 Speaker 2: I am a very good emotion suppressor within the relationship. 44 00:02:09,909 --> 00:02:12,589 Speaker 4: As in, so you suppressed your emotions how you are feeling. 45 00:02:12,749 --> 00:02:14,749 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't want to hurt the other person. 46 00:02:14,869 --> 00:02:17,309 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, And I'll. 47 00:02:17,229 --> 00:02:18,989 Speaker 4: Drag them down with you? Is that is that The 48 00:02:19,029 --> 00:02:19,669 Speaker 4: vine blogger is. 49 00:02:19,669 --> 00:02:21,829 Speaker 2: Like, look, if you really want to break it down, 50 00:02:21,829 --> 00:02:23,469 Speaker 2: I think it's a safety thing. I think you don't 51 00:02:23,469 --> 00:02:26,669 Speaker 2: want to ruin the safety of your relationship. You know, particular, 52 00:02:26,629 --> 00:02:28,189 Speaker 2: you've been with someone for a while, you're just like, 53 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:30,069 Speaker 2: oh Jesus, if I really let rit with here with 54 00:02:30,109 --> 00:02:32,629 Speaker 2: how I'm feeling, then you like, miss, the walls could 55 00:02:32,629 --> 00:02:32,949 Speaker 2: come down. 56 00:02:32,989 --> 00:02:33,309 Speaker 5: That's right. 57 00:02:33,349 --> 00:02:34,869 Speaker 2: It's all about safety, right, So as soon as you 58 00:02:35,109 --> 00:02:36,869 Speaker 2: crossed that line with the person that you love, and 59 00:02:37,109 --> 00:02:39,669 Speaker 2: it's a person that you've bet everything on at this 60 00:02:39,669 --> 00:02:41,589 Speaker 2: stage in your life, but. 61 00:02:41,629 --> 00:02:43,509 Speaker 5: You can get not used to doing it previously. 62 00:02:44,029 --> 00:02:46,669 Speaker 2: It's a really hard thing to do, and I think 63 00:02:46,709 --> 00:02:49,189 Speaker 2: a lot of us do it because we're scared about 64 00:02:49,829 --> 00:02:51,389 Speaker 2: how we're going to be perceived by the person that 65 00:02:51,389 --> 00:02:53,349 Speaker 2: we're with, or even in this beber sense, with our friends, 66 00:02:53,389 --> 00:02:54,668 Speaker 2: we do it because we don't want to lose the 67 00:02:54,709 --> 00:02:58,909 Speaker 2: friendship of course. And ultimately, what I've found through this 68 00:02:58,909 --> 00:03:00,989 Speaker 2: this this counseling that we've done recently is that. 69 00:03:01,509 --> 00:03:05,029 Speaker 3: It's really bad for you. It's really really bad. 70 00:03:05,069 --> 00:03:07,069 Speaker 4: It's going to come out at some stage. 71 00:03:06,789 --> 00:03:13,629 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly and more importantly, if you don't do it 72 00:03:13,709 --> 00:03:16,549 Speaker 2: so pray, if you don't let your emotions out, I 73 00:03:16,669 --> 00:03:19,189 Speaker 2: end up doing the thing which no one likes, which 74 00:03:19,229 --> 00:03:19,749 Speaker 2: is I sulk. 75 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:21,429 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 76 00:03:21,469 --> 00:03:24,349 Speaker 2: And even if I just do it subtly, sulking is 77 00:03:25,629 --> 00:03:27,829 Speaker 2: the worst thing you can do on the planet because and. 78 00:03:27,789 --> 00:03:30,309 Speaker 1: Then someone goes that you are right, yep, fine, fine, fine, 79 00:03:30,429 --> 00:03:31,589 Speaker 1: like you're good in there? 80 00:03:31,669 --> 00:03:35,429 Speaker 2: Yeah good, And and then it's hard. 81 00:03:37,349 --> 00:03:41,029 Speaker 1: It's like, can we talk about this, talk about what like, Okay, 82 00:03:41,829 --> 00:03:46,029 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go there. We'll think we've all 83 00:03:46,029 --> 00:03:48,669 Speaker 1: been guilty of sulking. By the way, we're not having 84 00:03:48,669 --> 00:03:51,229 Speaker 1: goos of people who sock. I think we all sulk well, 85 00:03:51,229 --> 00:03:52,709 Speaker 1: and we all know it sucks. But when you're in 86 00:03:52,709 --> 00:03:56,589 Speaker 1: the middle of a sulk, you're controlled by it. 87 00:03:56,589 --> 00:03:58,549 Speaker 4: It's a shocking feeling when you when you're mid sulk. 88 00:03:58,869 --> 00:03:59,509 Speaker 3: Children sok. 89 00:03:59,869 --> 00:04:00,109 Speaker 4: Yes. 90 00:04:00,949 --> 00:04:04,149 Speaker 2: I did a bit of research on sulking and Elanda 91 00:04:04,189 --> 00:04:06,549 Speaker 2: Boton talks about sulking because I was interested in why 92 00:04:06,589 --> 00:04:09,149 Speaker 2: I sulk. I'm like, why am I? Why am I sulker? 93 00:04:09,189 --> 00:04:11,429 Speaker 2: I hate the fact that I'm sulking? And he said, 94 00:04:11,549 --> 00:04:13,989 Speaker 2: because basically, at some stage in your life, you've been 95 00:04:13,989 --> 00:04:17,829 Speaker 2: told that your emotions aren't valid. At some stage, you've 96 00:04:17,829 --> 00:04:18,308 Speaker 2: had a moment. 97 00:04:18,389 --> 00:04:20,469 Speaker 4: It's probably a parent when you're young, a parent being like, 98 00:04:20,589 --> 00:04:23,229 Speaker 4: be quiet, please be quiet, which is totally naturally if. 99 00:04:23,428 --> 00:04:25,549 Speaker 2: They just don't understand you, they don't try and understand 100 00:04:25,589 --> 00:04:27,869 Speaker 2: your emotions. So you learn this thing like, hey, if 101 00:04:27,869 --> 00:04:30,109 Speaker 2: I'm letting my emotions rip here, the people that I'm 102 00:04:30,109 --> 00:04:32,189 Speaker 2: doing it for won't understand me. And so the reason 103 00:04:32,189 --> 00:04:35,349 Speaker 2: that children stay silent when they're sulking is because it's 104 00:04:35,389 --> 00:04:37,068 Speaker 2: basically them saying, you don't. 105 00:04:36,949 --> 00:04:39,749 Speaker 3: Understand me, right, and if you don't understand me, then 106 00:04:39,789 --> 00:04:40,389 Speaker 3: you don't love me. 107 00:04:41,109 --> 00:04:43,388 Speaker 5: That's the correlation. You don't understand me, you don't. 108 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:45,188 Speaker 2: Love me, which is so unfair because you're not telling 109 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:47,428 Speaker 2: the person that you're sulking in front of how to 110 00:04:47,669 --> 00:04:50,229 Speaker 2: understand you. So you put this awful burden on your 111 00:04:50,229 --> 00:04:51,749 Speaker 2: lover to go normally. 112 00:04:51,789 --> 00:04:53,189 Speaker 5: Am I not going to talk to you? 113 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:56,188 Speaker 2: You will have to mind read me to figure out 114 00:04:56,309 --> 00:04:58,149 Speaker 2: what my emotions actually are. 115 00:04:58,429 --> 00:05:00,589 Speaker 3: And then once you've done that, once you've proved to 116 00:05:00,629 --> 00:05:01,229 Speaker 3: me that you will. 117 00:05:01,109 --> 00:05:02,709 Speaker 5: Love me, then I will come back to you. 118 00:05:02,709 --> 00:05:03,789 Speaker 4: You've got a professor x me. 119 00:05:06,069 --> 00:05:08,869 Speaker 2: You've got to get in there for it and figure 120 00:05:08,869 --> 00:05:10,509 Speaker 2: out my emotions for me, I'm not going to tell 121 00:05:10,549 --> 00:05:12,829 Speaker 2: them to you. So I think there's a very valuablesson 122 00:05:12,829 --> 00:05:14,389 Speaker 2: that I learned recent that I wanted to share is 123 00:05:14,429 --> 00:05:18,508 Speaker 2: that like, if by not by not sharing your emotions, 124 00:05:18,509 --> 00:05:20,789 Speaker 2: by not by suppressing your emotions, you might feel like 125 00:05:20,829 --> 00:05:23,029 Speaker 2: you're doing the right thing, because I think that's often 126 00:05:23,069 --> 00:05:24,428 Speaker 2: where it comes from me, like, oh, I'm going to 127 00:05:24,429 --> 00:05:25,149 Speaker 2: protect you and. 128 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:26,669 Speaker 5: I'm going to be the bigger guy here and hold 129 00:05:26,709 --> 00:05:27,429 Speaker 5: onto my emotions. 130 00:05:27,629 --> 00:05:29,829 Speaker 2: You will eventually get to a point where you ruin 131 00:05:29,869 --> 00:05:30,629 Speaker 2: your relationship. 132 00:05:30,869 --> 00:05:32,469 Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds like you're a bit team Bieber. 133 00:05:33,029 --> 00:05:35,748 Speaker 3: I am by me some bebes kean on the big 134 00:05:35,789 --> 00:05:39,069 Speaker 3: guy will it's perfect a guy, You're. 135 00:05:38,949 --> 00:05:41,748 Speaker 4: Finally a believer a big times And. 136 00:05:43,309 --> 00:05:46,029 Speaker 1: It is so much bigger for Beiber as well, because 137 00:05:46,029 --> 00:05:47,789 Speaker 1: I feel like he has done that with the public 138 00:05:47,829 --> 00:05:49,629 Speaker 1: for his entire life, where he felt like he had 139 00:05:49,669 --> 00:05:54,269 Speaker 1: to be a certain. 140 00:05:53,309 --> 00:05:55,429 Speaker 3: He had to be a sweetheart for everyone. 141 00:05:55,109 --> 00:05:58,308 Speaker 2: And the world loved him, and has this moment where 142 00:05:58,349 --> 00:05:59,469 Speaker 2: he's going, you know what. 143 00:05:59,429 --> 00:06:02,149 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be this person for people anymore 144 00:06:02,109 --> 00:06:03,909 Speaker 1: because I've done it for so long and I'm sick 145 00:06:03,949 --> 00:06:04,149 Speaker 1: of it. 146 00:06:04,149 --> 00:06:06,549 Speaker 2: It's an interesting topic in general, isn't It is like 147 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:12,149 Speaker 2: would we how much would we tolerate child star's behavior 148 00:06:12,229 --> 00:06:13,989 Speaker 2: if they weren't child stars previously? 149 00:06:14,149 --> 00:06:16,589 Speaker 5: M It's a very interesting discussion. 150 00:06:16,669 --> 00:06:19,789 Speaker 4: I think stinksive tomorrow, does it? Yeah? We don't have 151 00:06:19,829 --> 00:06:20,229 Speaker 4: time now? 152 00:06:20,309 --> 00:06:22,589 Speaker 5: Oh right, yeah, well I wasn't jesting. We do it now? 153 00:06:22,709 --> 00:06:24,589 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I thought you were, And I was like, bloddy, 154 00:06:24,589 --> 00:06:24,989 Speaker 4: hell mate. 155 00:06:25,149 --> 00:06:27,589 Speaker 5: It feels like like a it feels like a through job. 156 00:06:27,629 --> 00:06:28,829 Speaker 5: That one. That's a big that's a big. 157 00:06:28,869 --> 00:06:29,509 Speaker 4: Big sit down. 158 00:06:29,509 --> 00:06:29,789 Speaker 5: I think. 159 00:06:29,829 --> 00:06:31,868 Speaker 3: So I would speak to Louis Docco or something. 160 00:06:32,389 --> 00:06:34,068 Speaker 4: So he's just handball to someone else. There you go. 161 00:06:34,149 --> 00:06:36,628 Speaker 1: If you're a documentary maker, go and do something with 162 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:37,389 Speaker 1: that subject matter. 163 00:06:37,389 --> 00:06:40,389 Speaker 2: Beth McGarvey Channel ten, if she's. 164 00:06:39,549 --> 00:06:41,189 Speaker 5: The head of ten, she might pick it up. W