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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This podcast is

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Speaker 1: for women who want to take ownership of their lives,

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Speaker 1: live unapologetically, and are ready to turn their biggest dreams

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Speaker 1: into their reality. If you're ready to be armed with

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Speaker 1: the tools that will inspire to take bold action, feel

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Speaker 1: confident within yourself, and conquer your goals, then you've come

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Speaker 1: to the right place. I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm

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Speaker 1: a lawyer turned entrepreneur, co founder of Naked Harvest Supplements,

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Speaker 1: and social media personality with a community of over three

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. I grew up believing I had to pursue

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Speaker 1: the safe option and fit into a mold others had

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Speaker 1: created for me. But then I entered my corporate law

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Speaker 1: job and I realized that settling for a reality that

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Speaker 2: Was not prepared to do.

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Speaker 1: I want to more, and I have a feeling you

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Speaker 1: do too. Join me and special guests weekly as we

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Speaker 1: get down to the nitty gritty on all things health,

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Speaker 1: mastering your mindset, creating lasting habits, thriving in your career

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Speaker 1: and relationships, plus so much more, and together we'll gain

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Speaker 1: the knowledge and perspective to pursue our wildest dreams and

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Speaker 3: Well, what are you waiting for? Let's Rise and Conquer.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast. Today, I am sitting down with the bold,

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Speaker 3: You may also know her as c S.

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Speaker 1: Is a YouTuber, a podcast, a content creator, and all

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Speaker 1: and her mindset and all the goodness she had to share.

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Speaker 1: So we actually decided to split her episode into two parts.

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Speaker 1: The first part you are currently listening to. We get

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Speaker 1: down to what it was like going through an eating disorder,

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Speaker 1: why it compelled her to share her story online and

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Speaker 1: second conversation, which we'll be dropping in the next few days.

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Speaker 1: I think Thursday Off Friday is a bit more lighthearted.

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Speaker 1: We get into what it's really like living as an

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Speaker 1: also get into mindset organization tips, and she even spills

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Speaker 1: the tea about the drama with Maurice from Love Island.

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Speaker 1: So Christy is Honestly, she's larger than life and has

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Speaker 1: some really valuable insect I had some perspectives to share

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Speaker 1: with you all, so I hope you enjoy these conversations.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, part two will be dropping in the

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Speaker 1: I do just want to give a quick content warning.

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Speaker 1: Please know that we do discuss certain topics surrounding eating disorders,

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Speaker 1: including anorexia, nervosa, and binge eating. If these topics are

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Speaker 1: triggering for you, please opt out of this episode or

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Speaker 1: proceed with caution, and please reach out to her local

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Speaker 1: support group or mental health professional if you're currently struggling

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Speaker 1: with any of these issues. All right, let's get into

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: See how exciting. Thank you for having me on board.

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Speaker 2: Hello guys, Rise and Conquerors. Isn't that what we call?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well we don't, but now we are, so thanks

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Speaker 2: I think, Hello, Rise and Conquerors. How are we? Thank

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Speaker 2: you for tuning in?

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Speaker 1: Is your girl see Okay, guys, you can see why

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Speaker 1: I called her a fire Gregor in the intro. So

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Speaker 1: I got to Seas this morning and we've actually spent

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Speaker 1: you guys know, the first thing I like to ask

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Speaker 1: you know about my what honor the season? What sort

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Speaker 4: I really love this and I love that you talk

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Speaker 4: kind of like in life, you go in these cycles.

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Speaker 1: And so many cycles. And I love what you said

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Speaker 1: when I identify the season, it almost loses its power

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Speaker 4: And like you said, shedding awareness upon that, it takes

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Speaker 1: But I don't get sucked into it exactly, sucked into

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Speaker 4: And that's the most important part, not allowing that time

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Speaker 2: Because at the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: Emotions and thoughts, there are things that come and go

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Speaker 4: what I mean. If you're sad, be mother licking sad.

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Speaker 4: If you're angry, be angry. All emotions are made to

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Speaker 1: I love that, And thank you for being so transparent

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Speaker 1: kind of be hard to talk about things while you're

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Speaker 1: in them. I'm someone who I definitely like to talk things.

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Speaker 2: After once you've got over you like, and then I

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Speaker 1: But I love that you shared that with us, So

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Speaker 1: thank you. So before we get into kind of the

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Speaker 4: Isn't it funny though, a lot of our followers are

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Speaker 2: We're very similar and everyone's like Georgie Seaman. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's because we guys.

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Speaker 4: I have been told that I am too much and

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Speaker 4: I just got to learn to obviously adapt it to

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Speaker 2: I just need to find those who I thrive with

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Speaker 1: I love that and agreed, and that took me a

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Speaker 1: And so my whole life, I was kind of told

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Speaker 2: Still have to believe it, Yeah, but I always.

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Speaker 1: so I would kind of turn the notches down. And

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Speaker 1: right people. Yeah, if that makes sense, We'll we'll get

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Speaker 3: Who was C?

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hey guys, So my name is Christy Swueddling and

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Speaker 1: About it exactly. I love what you said about being vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: That's actually something I struggle with because I think I

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Speaker 1: I don't want to spend too long because even though

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Speaker 3: Were you kind of like this is me now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I would catch myself if I ever made

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Speaker 4: I can't eat this. I can't eat this donut because

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Speaker 4: I wasn't made the choice. I wasn't born with it.

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Speaker 4: lose their thoughts. Your thoughts are everything, So your thoughts

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Speaker 2: So if you lose your thoughts, you are cured. So

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Speaker 1: So for someone who doesn't really know too much about ED,

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Speaker 1: can you give us a bit of an insight on

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Speaker 1: what recovery truly looks like? And obviously it's going to

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Speaker 1: be so different for other people, but what did it

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Speaker 1: look like for you? And, like you said, when you

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Speaker 1: got it, it almost got worse, and then you went into recovery,

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Speaker 1: how did that look?

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Speaker 4: It's actually a really hard process. It's not like you

444
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Speaker 4: just choose recovery. There's so many things that you need

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Speaker 4: to do in order to get out of that headspace,

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Speaker 4: and it's a process. It is a really hard, long process,

447
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Speaker 4: and I'm just being completely real and transparent. It's something

448
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Speaker 4: that isn't easy. And the longer that you have your

449
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Speaker 4: eating disorder, the harder it is to get out of it.

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Speaker 4: And there's actually not only the mental side of recovery,

451
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Speaker 4: but there's also the physical side effects that you go through,

452
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Speaker 4: and they're probably the most strong. So you go through refeeding.

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Speaker 4: That's one of them. So my first signs of like

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Speaker 4: when I first started to recover, I would go through refeeding.

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Speaker 4: So what that is is your body adapting to food.

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Speaker 4: So because obviously your body isn't it's not comfortable with

457
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Speaker 4: a certain amount of food because for so long you've

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Speaker 4: been so restrictive, and your body would actually I would

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Speaker 4: bloat my whole, I'd get like veins would pop up,

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Speaker 4: my body would swell, I was in agony, I was

461
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Speaker 4: tied all the time. So it's kind of because your

462
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Speaker 4: body's gone in full recovery mode and it needs to recover.

463
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Speaker 4: So all the energy that your body is consuming is

464
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Speaker 4: actually going to repairing your organs, repairing things that you've

465
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Speaker 4: damaged through malnourishment. So that was just exhausting, absolutely exhausting.

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Speaker 4: So I went through months of just acting to be bedridden.

467
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Speaker 4: I stopped training, which is something that you do need

468
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Speaker 4: to do in recovery, is just stop training and really

469
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Speaker 4: focusing on healing your body again. I went through like

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Speaker 4: night sweats, so I couldn't actually sleep that well because

471
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Speaker 4: I was hot all the time. So your body is

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out, like it's normal temperature. You go

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Speaker 4: through night sweat.

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Speaker 3: Is that because you were quite cold before?

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Speaker 4: So like obviously, through an eating disorder, you get very thin,

476
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Speaker 4: so your body has nothing to hold on to.

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Speaker 2: And even if you're like I want to actually say this.

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Speaker 4: Now, eating disorders come in all shapes and sizes, so

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Speaker 4: you do not need to be extremely thin to have

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Speaker 4: an eating disorder. That is only actually a very small percentage.

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Speaker 4: So a small percentage of eating disorders are anorexia, there's overeating,

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Speaker 4: there's binge eating. And if you do have a funny

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Speaker 4: relationship with food, you will actually get cold because your

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Speaker 4: metabolism is slowing down and she restricting.

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Speaker 2: You're restricting exactly.

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Speaker 4: And so my body was getting obviously adapting to food,

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Speaker 4: and because your body is also working so hard to

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Speaker 4: eat and to eat, your body is we so hard

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Speaker 4: to digest everything? Yeah, it overheats your body. So I

490
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Speaker 4: was getting so hot, I was overheating. You go through

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Speaker 4: certain things like confusion with food.

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Speaker 2: So I actually went.

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Speaker 4: Through over like I would overeat, id binge eat, So

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Speaker 4: my body wasn't used to food, so I didn't really

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Speaker 4: know when to stop. And binge eating is actually a

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Speaker 4: very common sign in recovery. So I went through binge

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Speaker 4: eating for around like on and off for a year.

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Speaker 4: So that is something that again had to learn to

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Speaker 4: deal with. So through recovery, it's not just you eat,

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Speaker 4: it's actually learning to eat normal and to you know

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Speaker 4: how much is good for you, but also being comfortable

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Speaker 4: with getting uncomfortable. So I recently actually spoke about this

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Speaker 4: in my last podcast, and I was interviewing a recovery

504
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Speaker 4: coach and she was saying, the most important thing is

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Speaker 4: to realize that it's not a comfortable process. So you

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Speaker 4: just got to understand that you're going to be very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: And I was for around three years just uncomfortable, uncomfortable

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Speaker 4: in my body, uncomfortable with food, uncomfortable in the decisions

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Speaker 4: I was making.

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Speaker 2: But you just have to trust the process.

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Speaker 1: the episode. I personally was never diagnosed with an eating disorder,

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Speaker 1: but I think I definitely had a touch of orthorexia

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Speaker 1: because I.

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Speaker 3: Went through this stage where I.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't eat refined sugars, I couldn't eat anything refined, and

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Speaker 1: it was like I wasn't so restrictive in regards to

539
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Speaker 1: starving myself, but I would not let myself like I

540
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: would make sure I made my own source so I

541
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Speaker 1: knew exactly what was coming from it. And I just

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Speaker 1: kind of developed this obsessive relationship with what I put

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Speaker 1: in my body and what I ate, and it had

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Speaker 1: to be you know that hashtag clean and again, like you, like,

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Speaker 1: I was praised because I was getting lenar Lena, I

546
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Speaker 1: was looking stronger, and I never personally was underweight or anything,

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Speaker 1: so I was always praised, But in my mind, I

548
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Speaker 1: was obsessed, like you said, I was the next I

549
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Speaker 1: was still think about the next meal as like what

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Speaker 1: I could have and what I couldn't have.

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Speaker 3: It very much consumed my life.

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Speaker 1: I then went through a stage where I almost kind

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Speaker 1: of just needed to reject any sort of health, like

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Speaker 1: just completely rejected, and it was hard for me to

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Speaker 1: also watch other people on YouTube or anything like that

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Speaker 1: who were eating, you know, who were dieting, Yeah, who

557
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Speaker 1: were dining and eating healthy and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you, you know, whether any stages

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Speaker 1: that you went through where you were like, oh, I'm

560
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Speaker 1: getting better, I'm doing this because I'm recovering. But in reality,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of forming another obsession. Yes, yeah, one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And that is something that is so well known to

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Speaker 4: do in recovery because it's kind of like what an

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Speaker 4: eating disorder is is an obsession. So it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like how you switch your focuses. You kind of naturally

567
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Speaker 4: go into another obsession and another obsession. That's how you

568
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Speaker 4: get away from Yeah, slowly wean yourself. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 4: was a part of my recovery I did. I went

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Speaker 4: from one obsession to the other obsession and that isn't

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Speaker 4: it's not ideal because it prolongs your recovery, I guess,

572
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: you know. And there was so many other areas I

573
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: had to learn to Okay, you can actually have cups,

574
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Speaker 4: you can do this, you can do that. And it

575
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: can be hard through recovery because you see all these

576
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Speaker 4: other influences and other accounts who are going on these

577
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Speaker 4: diets and are doing these fasting and are seen as healthy.

578
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Speaker 4: But you just need to realize that what is healthy

579
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Speaker 4: for someone else may not be healthy for you and

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Speaker 4: acknowledge that you have had a bad behavior with food

581
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Speaker 4: or a funny past with food. So you just need

582
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Speaker 4: to focus on freedom and focus on what is healthy

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Speaker 4: for you be mindful of. Okay, obviously, if I'm going

584
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Speaker 4: to have any form of restrictions in my diet, that's

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Speaker 4: not actually going to serve me. That's not going to

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Speaker 4: be healthy for me because I've had a bad past

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Speaker 4: with food. So I definitely did go through. If you've

588
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Speaker 4: been following my channel for a while, know that I

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Speaker 4: was vegan.

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Speaker 2: I did go palely. I went from all these extremes because.

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Speaker 4: It was another way of my eating disorder to come

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Speaker 4: out in other areas without me knowing. Here, I was

593
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Speaker 4: thinking that I was just keeping up with the trends,

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Speaker 4: but really it was just my eating disorder trying to

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Speaker 4: come out and exactly, and it's really important. I'm really

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Speaker 4: glad that we are talking about this because it is

597
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Speaker 4: so important within your recovery to be aware of what

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Speaker 4: is actually going to help you and what is just

599
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Speaker 4: feeding your eating disorder.

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Speaker 1: So I really want to get into the veganism thing.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's talk about what did

602
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Speaker 1: help you, Like what if you're looking back, and obviously

603
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Speaker 1: this is very personal to you, what were the big

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Speaker 1: things and you talked, you talked about a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but what did help you.

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Speaker 4: Through my early stages of recovery, I was what was

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Speaker 4: my turning point was a book. The book was The

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Speaker 4: Power of Now. So that was my turn point and

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Speaker 4: that made me really aware of thoughts. And the quote

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Speaker 4: that I read that was a huge turning point was

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Speaker 4: the more you feed the ego, the stronger the ego

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Speaker 4: will get. So I actually represented the ego as my

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Speaker 4: eating disorder. So the more I fed the eating disorder,

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Speaker 4: the stronger my eating disorder would get. So through these

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Speaker 4: years of recovery, every single time I was trying a

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Speaker 4: new diet or trying a new obsession, that would actually

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Speaker 4: be feeding my eating disorder. So how I've learned now

618
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Speaker 4: looking back at it, how I actually were able to

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Speaker 4: fully recover was completely letting go. It wasn't until the

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Speaker 4: moment that I let go that I then starved the

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Speaker 4: eating disorder. So I had to go against everything my

622
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Speaker 4: eating disorder wanted me to do, because the more I

623
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Speaker 4: would listen to my eating disorder, the more I was

624
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Speaker 4: feeding it, so the more it would grow. It wasn't

625
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Speaker 4: until I accepted uncomfortability and accepted, okay, I need to

626
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Speaker 4: completely let go, let go of you know, allowing myself

627
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Speaker 4: to have a mother licking don't even if even if

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Speaker 4: Samantha on Instagram says donuts have too much sugar or

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Speaker 4: you know, the refined ship was bad for you, just

630
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Speaker 4: you actually allow yourself to have that no matter what

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Speaker 4: anyone else is.

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Speaker 1: Yeap, just touching on that. A big thing for me, again,

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Speaker 1: I was not diagnosed, but a big thing for me

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Speaker 1: was eating all the foods that I had once that

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Speaker 1: I couldn't eat with no emotion attached, no anything attached,

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Speaker 1: and just eating it and then after being like I

637
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Speaker 1: didn't lie.

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Speaker 2: Ye and then kind and not having to conpensate for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just being that doesn't matter, It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean anything, and it's not like I just did that

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Speaker 1: once and it was all good. But there was a

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Speaker 1: big process of one hundredercent just eating. And I know

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Speaker 1: it's easy to say, just eat the food, but that

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Speaker 1: was one hundred percent one of the biggest steps. And

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Speaker 1: I think it kind of let the power go, because

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Speaker 1: for me, it was this big thing in my mind,

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Speaker 1: like it was so powerful and it definitely lost the power.

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Speaker 1: But what I was going to say before.

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Speaker 4: Take the fear of the unknown, don't you reckon so

650
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Speaker 4: like your mind doesn't know what it's like, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Not until you actively act upon it.

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Speaker 4: You know, action is what helps recovery, so you can

653
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Speaker 4: sit in your mind and say, I need to do this,

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Speaker 4: I need to do that. So there's two things that

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Speaker 4: feed your thoughts, right, So your thoughts, you have your

656
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Speaker 4: eating disorder thoughts and you have your normal thoughts. In

657
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: order to keep your eating disorder there, you have to

658
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: act upon it or emotionally dwelling it. So in order

659
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: for it to die off, you need to know what

660
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: you need to do in order to the opposition of

661
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: what you're eating disorder wants you to do. So if

662
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: you're eating disorder says you cannot have breakfast until ten,

663
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: if you have breakfast at eight, you're then acting against

664
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 4: your eating disorder, which will kill it. It sounds funny,

665
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: but mostly proving it wrong, proving it wrong, and you know,

666
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: doing exactly what it doesn't want you to do, because

667
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: then you're you're killing it off. You're not feeding it anymore.

668
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: So the more you feed the ego, the stronger the

669
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: ego gets. The more you feed less you feed out. Yeah, yeah,

670
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 4: the more you feed yourself and freedom. So I look

671
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: at the opposition of the eating disorder. To me is freedom,

672
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like detaching the two. So I

673
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: constantly every single day now my goal is freedom, So

674
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: if it doesn't serve me freedom, then I won't do it.

675
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: So that to me is healthy freedom.

676
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: I love that.

677
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: And so what about some tangible things in regards you know,

678
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: did you stop following certain people on social media?

679
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: Did you have.

680
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: Friends you can be around or anything like that.

681
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 2: Definitely, the accounts that I followed on social media.

682
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: So I've got rid of every single like pro diet

683
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 4: in pro and I pro all of that. I've got

684
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: rid of anyone who wouldn't have a healthy relationship because

685
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 4: there's so many accounts who don't atually a healthy relationship food.

686
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 4: But because they haven't told theirself they haven't eating disorder,

687
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: or they have been diagnosed, or they're not thin enough,

688
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: they think it's normal, but it's actually not. So many

689
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: people can have bad life ships with food, but because

690
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 4: they're not anorexic, they don't actually acknowledge it, and they

691
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 4: don't think that their disorder behaviors.

692
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Are bad or triggering anyone, triggering.

693
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: Anyone else exactly. So yes, just unfollowing negativeccounts. You know,

694
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 4: don't get angry at them. Live their life. It's their journey,

695
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 4: you know, they have to find out their self. Yeah,

696
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 4: just unfollow them. You don't need to follow them, you

697
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 4: don't need to see their stuff.

698
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: You can choose that. So I've unfollowed them.

699
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: Yes, there's even people that I couldn't be around in

700
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: my recovery. You know, there's certain people who don't have

701
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: the best relationship with food or they would say triggering. Yes,

702
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: So it's not that I had to isolate myself. I

703
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: just had to have an awareness on who were helping

704
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: my recovery process and who weren't.

705
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: You know what, I didn't have to not be friends

706
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: with them for ever, just in this process. I can

707
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: always go.

708
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 4: Back and be friends with them later on and I have,

709
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: you know, and I really enjoy their company now, but

710
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: back then I wouldn't have. And it's just being okay

711
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: with that. So there was them two main things, and

712
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: then it was keeping a.

713
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Diary really helped tell us mom.

714
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I actually have these two huge diary. Is

715
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 4: that I'm completely full of my recovery process. It's the

716
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: start of it is Actually, it's quite like a very

717
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: depressing story, to be honest, but it's.

718
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Really it's good to see the journey.

719
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 4: It's empowering to know that you can start from low, low, low,

720
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: and then work your way up. And yes, I had

721
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: so many downfalls, I had so many stages of my recovery.

722
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 4: But it was really good because I would sit down

723
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: and I would become one with myself. With your thoughts,

724
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: it's so important to not push them away because at

725
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: the end of the day, your thoughts are there and

726
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 4: they will come back. So if you try to keep

727
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: yourself busy to push your thoughts away, they're going to

728
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: come back. So writing your thoughts down and self reflecting

729
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 4: and acknowledging how you feel, what you think, you know,

730
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: actually asking yourself questions, and that's what a diary would

731
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: help me do. I would talk to myself, Hi, Christy,

732
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: how are we today. I would literally answer my questions, Ah,

733
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: I don't know. Mum's pissing me off and I feel it.

734
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: So I haven't made the best choices with my food.

735
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: And I would question myself because I knew the questions

736
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: that I needed to ask. It's kind of like I

737
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: would still go see therapists and counsels.

738
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: But they didn't have my mind.

739
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: I have my mind, so I know the questions that

740
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 4: are going to actually get me somewhere. So asking myself

741
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: questions and answering my questions and actually picking away and

742
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: peeling the layers at my disorder and my thoughts and

743
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: my behavior was something that was incredible for my recovery.

744
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but something that I have

745
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: a journally practice too, just now that I like doing

746
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: because sometimes my thoughts are like in my head and

747
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: they're like spiraling, and to me it's like, oh my god,

748
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: this really big thing. And then I write them on

749
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: the page and I'm like, ah, it's not even a

750
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: big deal, or there's a really simple solution, and it's

751
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: almost like again, I keep saying this, but it loses

752
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: its power and it's on the page and you're like.

753
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: Oh, it's clarity exactly.

754
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: Clarity is everything.

755
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 4: And when, like you said, when it's in your head

756
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: it feels like so much, you feel very fuffled, Like

757
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: a fuffled is I don't even know if that's a word.

758
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: That is just that's what I feel when I.

759
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: Have everything overwhelmed. I feel very overwhelmed.

760
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: I feel very costrophobic, fuffled. And when it is, when

761
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: it's in your head, it's so much more than what

762
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: it actually is, and it's not until you talk about it.

763
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: So that's why I document my life now, all my stories,

764
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 4: because that's.

765
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: Like a recovery journal.

766
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's how I journal, That's how I express

767
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: my emotions. Now I actually get up on my story,

768
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: but through my recovery, I used to journal and document

769
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: everything in my journal.

770
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I love that. Those are amazing tips. Thank you so

771
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: much for sharing. Let's get into what you were talking

772
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: about in regards to the veganism, So talk about why

773
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: you turned vegan, what that process was like, and then

774
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: why you stopped.

775
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: So looking back at it now, veganism was definitely another

776
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 4: for my eating disorder. It also was huge on Instagram.

777
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: It was the trend.

778
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: It was the thing to do. It was a thing to.

779
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: Do, and for me, a huge thing in my recovery

780
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: was I wanted to rather than focus on calories, I

781
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: wanted to focus on health, and I was consumed by

782
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: media at that point where I felt as though the

783
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: only way for true health was to turn vegan.

784
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: And you know, don't don't blame me back then you would.

785
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: Even now, if you eat steat, you're gonna have people

786
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 4: putting you down saying how much cholesterol A you're gonna get,

787
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 4: how bad it is for your heart, that you're going

788
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: to die early. So that's why I'm so against anyone

789
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: who tries to tell you how to live your life

790
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 4: because or if there's one right way, there's one right way.

791
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: Because if someone tried to tell someone who struggled to

792
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: eat in general that they can't eat this, it's just

793
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: gonna make them worse. So how can you How dare

794
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: someone say to someone that you should be eating this

795
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: when they have no idea about their behavior with food,

796
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: their past or anything. So that's why I'm so anti

797
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: any diet and anti anyone who says that there is

798
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: one way, because there isn't. There is no such thing

799
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: as one way fits all, one diet fits on, one

800
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 4: lifestyle fits all. So for me, looking back at it

801
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: now and just being completely transparent with you all, turning

802
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: vegan was actually another form of my eating disorder coming

803
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: out and through my recovery, I never actually recovered because

804
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: I was vegan.

805
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: I know that sounds bad.

806
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm not blaming the vegan diet, but to have another

807
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: form of restriction and limitations.

808
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: You could never truly recover.

809
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Because you can't let go.

810
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: You still have to focus on what you're eating, you

811
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: still have to look at the back of packaging, and

812
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 4: you still have to be totally consumed by food and

813
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: far out. The thought of it just exhausts me, now,

814
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? It's not until, like

815
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 4: I said, I completely let go, And when turning vegan,

816
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to let go because I was still

817
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: super limited and super restricted. It actually didn't help me

818
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: and my gut either. And so that I remember the

819
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: things that was super detrimental on my recovery process and

820
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: actually took me maybe twenty steps backwards because I ended

821
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: up creating infual Bower syndrome. I've always had troubles with

822
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: my gut, but it got ten times worse from a

823
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: plan based diet.

824
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not seeing a play miss.

825
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: Diet is bad for your gut, but it wasn't working

826
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: for my individual gut. Yes, and over a period of

827
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: time it really damaged my gut and that was a

828
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: huge detrimental journey for my recovery, and I did I

829
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: took a few steps back.

830
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: I love what you said about the whole for you personally,

831
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: and I think that's the biggest thing is especially in

832
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: this day and age with social media, where there's people

833
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: who are very pro something so pro paleo pro vegan,

834
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: and they're very like, this is the only way and

835
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I'm like you, like, I really watch

836
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: out for those people because my own journey. I just

837
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: know everyone is so different, and for example, you know

838
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: some people they really thrive on low cub or they

839
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: really thrive on high fat, And I just think it's

840
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: very detrimental to say there's one way because everyone's bodies

841
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: are so different and lifestyle, but just what they like

842
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: and exactly how they want to live their life. And

843
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: so something I was going to ask you, obviously you're someone.

844
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: You have a following, you have followers.

845
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: I want to talk about how it felt when you

846
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: were like, holy crap, this is not working for me.

847
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: This is actually making me really unwell. And then when

848
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: you decided to not be vegan, because I can imagine

849
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: that would come with a warmth of anger, especially from

850
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: your vegan.

851
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 2: Followers, I was scared. I did get a lot of hate,

852
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 2: a lot of hate.

853
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: I had certain vegans actually make entire YouTube videos about

854
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: me kind of thing, and that in itself is confronting,

855
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: so scary, so so scary. But I knew that I

856
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: was going to help more people making a video about

857
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 4: me quitting viganism for my recovery than I was harming,

858
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: and that's what pushed me. I would get so many

859
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: messages of girls in similar situations, and my goal is

860
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 4: to help people, and people are going to get offended

861
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: on the way, But as long as the majority of

862
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: the percentage I am helping, then that's what matters. And

863
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: so that's what really pushed me through. I knew that

864
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 4: me actually speaking up about how like a plant based

865
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 4: diet isn't helping my recovery, that it was gonna help

866
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 4: so many girls go through similar situations.

867
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: It wasn't helping my recovery, it wasn't helping my gut.

868
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 4: My focus was to, like I've said before, to help

869
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 4: people who struggle with their eating. And I didn't let

870
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 4: the hate that I knew I was going to get

871
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: stop me from that.

872
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: That's amazing because especially me, I know you would have

873
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Speaker 1: felt like and I could imagine someone literally almost faking

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Speaker 1: it not telling their followers eating non vegan and almost

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Speaker 1: pretending because they didn't want to get there. So's huge.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge thing that you did, and it's very honorable.

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Speaker 1: And I guess what advice would you give someone who

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Speaker 1: maybe they did turn vegan And I think it's almost

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Speaker 1: like some an ego thing of you know, they creached

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Speaker 1: about it and they told everyone and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they are realizing as well that it's not

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Speaker 1: for them. Do you have any advice in regards to

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Speaker 1: what to show their friends or family or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: My advice really just to be if you're afraid of.

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Speaker 4: What people would think, they're not the people that you

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Speaker 4: should be around. If you're doing something for your health

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Speaker 4: and you're afraid that those around you are going to

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Speaker 4: put you down for that, then maybe you should question

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Speaker 4: around you rather than the decisions that you're making. Because

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, your health is the

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Speaker 4: most important thing, and you you are your happiness. Your health,

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Speaker 4: yep is the most important thing. And if you have

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Speaker 4: good people around you, if they know that you're actively

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Speaker 4: choosing the decisions that are going to help your health,

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Speaker 4: then you know it may take them a few weeks

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Speaker 4: to realize it, but they will be by your side.

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Speaker 4: But you just need to not overthink it, nor over

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Speaker 4: analyze it and put your health first.

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Speaker 1: Amazing And also one last question two is what advice

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Speaker 1: would you give someone who's currently struggling with Maybe they

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Speaker 1: haven't been diagnosed, like maybe they do have really obsessive

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Speaker 1: thoughts around food and their body, or maybe they have

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Speaker 1: been diagnosed and they're kind of at that start where

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Speaker 1: they're just becoming aware of it. What is your advice

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Speaker 1: to them, just obviously personally, like I put it exclaimer

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Speaker 1: at the start, but just your personal advice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, like I am no professional, but

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 4: Been through through it and I say this all the time.

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Speaker 4: Experience is the best type of knowledge. You know, you

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Speaker 4: can shed your.

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Speaker 2: Awareness upon it.

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Speaker 4: And what helped me was opening up, you know, talking

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Speaker 4: about it, telling someone how I feel, telling someone what.

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Speaker 2: I go through.

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Speaker 4: And like you just said, you don't need to be

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Speaker 4: diagnosed to realize that you have a bad behaviors with food.

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Speaker 4: If you're feeling anxious around food, if you overthink food,

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Speaker 4: then you most likely have a bad relationship with food.

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Speaker 4: So talk to someone about it, open up about it.

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Speaker 4: Make the steps to recovery now, because the longer you're

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Speaker 4: within it, the harder you to get out of it,

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Speaker 4: and it can just easily spiral so far down. So

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Speaker 4: actively make the actions to get better now and speak up.

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Speaker 4: Speaking up is definitely my number one save when it

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Speaker 4: was with my recovery was opening up.

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Speaker 2: Open up to my mom. Doesn't have to be a professional.

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Speaker 4: I just opened up to my mom, and that's something

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Speaker 4: that I would one recommend.

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Speaker 1: I love that we have just bloody chatted, so I've

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Speaker 1: actually made a quick decision.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna split this episode into two parts because

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Speaker 1: there's so much more I want to chat to see about.

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Speaker 1: She's so insightful, and like I said, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're on the same level and we've got some good

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Speaker 1: confo in us.

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Speaker 2: So this could get forever.

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Speaker 1: So I loved this conversation though about your eating disorder

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Speaker 1: and getting better and veganism.

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Speaker 3: There will be a part two where we're.

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Speaker 1: More juicy things to talk about, to talk more about.

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Speaker 1: Me and se were talking about this morning, like law

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Speaker 1: of traction and stuff too, So I keep your eyes peeled.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your insights on all this sea.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, of course, and.

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Speaker 3: We will be in your ears very soon, guys, with.

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Speaker 2: A part two see your Rise and Conquerors. We y out.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the thing now see Yeah, And that's a

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Speaker 1: wrap on another episode of the Rise and Concor podcast.

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Speaker 1: I hope you got something valuable from it, and I

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